random fact, john smith was a pedophyle Options

[*[2]Nekked*]

did you guys know that poccahontas was 12 when she met john smith? And John Smith was 38 at the time.

that serously ruined the whole movie for me. it used to be my favorite disney movie next to mulan.

[waccoon]

12 Year old girls, mmh mhh.

[ghjgfkgfk]

i heard that 'kid a' (radiohead cd) was written when they (band members) were on LSD.

i swear, i cant listen to that cd anymore the same way i used to.

[*krnxswat*]

So, what's wrong with that?

[*[2]Nekked*]

So, what's wrong with that?

[*krnxswat*]

Nekked,Oct 13 2004, 3:40 PM]

Haha just kidding.
I don't know. Maybe things were different back then?

[*tweeak*]

hahahahahaha

john proctor was a pedophile too, maybe it comes with the name?
he was like 60 and abigail was 11 and they had an affair, so in the play the crucible they changed it to him being in his 40s and her being 17 for the play so it wouldnt be so gross

and billy joel just married a 23 year old, but his names not john so it doesnt matter

i heard that 'kid a' (radiohead cd) was written when they (band members) were on LSD.

oh, and the people back in salem in the witch trials were all on lsd the rye went bad that year

[*[2]Nekked*]

Haha just kidding.
I don't know. Maybe things were different back then?

ok mathnerd, whats 38 minus 12?

38-12=EW.

EW EW EW

[*krnxswat*]

Nekked,Oct 13 2004, 3:41 PM] ok mathnerd, whats 38 minus 12?

38-12=EW.

EW EW EW

26.
That's not that bad...

[*[2]Nekked*]

26.
That's not that bad...

you worry me.


when i have kids, you're not going to meet them.

[*tweeak*]

26.
That's not that bad...

well it could be worse. see my other post. and billy joel is about...50, 60 something?

[*autumn.*]

mr smith's gf: mr smith, i just found out you were a pedaphile!
mr smith: wow...that's a really big word for a 5 year old!

haahaa..hah..okay yeah. sorry that was horrible.

[Saeglopur]

But then again.. in Ancient Egypt, many 10 year old girls got married.

[yeseulx3]

edgar allen poe married his 12 year old cousin.

or was it him...?

[*Fallen_Fairy*]

Nekked,Oct 13 2004, 10:15 AM] did you guys know that poccahontas was 12 when she met john smith? And John Smith was 38 at the time.

that serously ruined the whole movie for me. it used to be my favorite disney movie next to mulan.

wow thats horrible, disney is so f**ked up

[nlgrl]

loll my teacher hates disney movies cuz they show a whole different side of the whole story... and when pple lean history they go... but in the movie---- lol >.<

[*autumn.*]

wow thats horrible, disney is so f**ked up

not really, because they tried to make it seem as if there wasnt that great of an age difference.

[xscore]

ewwww.
i didnt know that!!
he was old enough to be her dad. gross.

[sweetdreamsx3]

Yeah! My AP US History teacher told me that on the second day of school when we were learning about them..It was rather disturbing, but I guess she likes old guys? haha

[ShipuuShouken]

didnt celine dion marry some 60 year old guy? and didnt utada hikaru marry some guy twice her age? and didnt pocahontas marry john rolfe or whatever? (btw, they married on the same day as my birthday, and im learning about this crap in history)

[hi-C]

Umm...John Smith and Pocahontas really weren't all that intimate. Disney just manipulated the facts of the story to produce a...well...really fantastic movie. Pocahontas is off the hizzle.

And yes, Pocahontas did marry John Rolfe (when she was older). He took her off to England or something. She probably converted to the Anglican and died in the English countryside. (I've forgotten the true story.)

[lilazneye10]

wow pretty shocking

[T00000]

anna nicole smith married a 90 year old man. and i married an 86 year old man. so yeah kids dont talk all the cool kids do that.

[Spirited Away]

Yea, Disney didn't tell the right story, so don't worry. She didn't fell in love with John Smith, she only helped him.

[x emo screamo x]

Did you know that in Alice in Wonder land there's drug use? But you can't really tell.

That's because CRACKHEADS sent the idea to Disney.

I was watching this one thing on how basically ALL of the disney animated moves are drug related. It was funny though. lol

[addictedtoxangie]

but back then, if you were 10, you might've had to have an arranged marriage. so this is like true love. i mean here in ny, a teacher made love to her 12-year-old student because they truly were in love. now that shes out of jail they're getting married! he waited for her!

[smrkangl]

eeww i didn't know that, he didn't look so old or even a year older from pocahontas in the movie!

[*tweeak*]

eeww i didn't know that, he didn't look so old or even a year older from pocahontas in the movie!

that because they werent in the movie, shes talking about historically

[mzweirdo]

but back then, if you were 10, you might've had to have an arranged marriage. so this is like true love. i mean here in ny, a teacher made love to her 12-year-old student because they truly were in love. now that shes out of jail they're getting married! he waited for her!

sickening but very sweet at the same time..

[PinkTrash]

Ew. Whats with Celebrities and doing that o.O maybe its a faze of attention. Fefe dobson fell inlove with an old man [I heard] and she wrote the Take me Away song about it. kajsf You knoww what was really sick? In the legally blonde 1 movie, when the perming girl stated that her dad married a woman the same age as her. THATZ SICK.

[whomps]

That use to be my favorite until Mulan came. But Mulan and Pocahontas are still the best. And my sister was like..

"Yvonne.. John Smith made Pocahontas sell her body and she had like 210 STDs."


"O_O "

[Just_Dream]

Umm...John Smith and Pocahontas really weren't all that intimate. Disney just manipulated the facts of the story to produce a...well...really fantastic movie. Pocahontas is off the hizzle.

And yes, Pocahontas did marry John Rolfe (when she was older). He took her off to England or something. She probably converted to the Anglican and died in the English countryside. (I've forgotten the true story.)

Yes, that's how it happened. Actually, the truth is.. Pocahontas was 11-12 years old, naked, AND bald. YES.. BALD.

But the good thing about the Disney version is that it rekindled the fire of the famous story of John Smith and it made people want to know more about the Virginia Company and whatnot. Although people were tricked, it made people get interested more in the history and Pocahontas and John Smith became popular names once again.

Personally, I liked the Disney one better.

"Paint with all the colors of the wind..." ...*slurs the rest of the words and trails off*

Pocahontas also died of small pox while she was in England.

[ichiban]

when i watched the movie i thought pocahontas was 20 =P ...
ew .. she ws only 12 .. freaky

[sporadic]

12 Year old girls, mmh mhh.

Not so much of an age difference, Nick...


Well, Pocahantas wasn't a movie with much educational value.

//edit

but back then, if you were 10, you might've had to have an arranged marriage. so this is like true love. i mean here in ny, a teacher made love to her 12-year-old student because they truly were in love. now that shes out of jail they're getting married! he waited for her!

dude, I think I saw that movie on Lifetime.

[LittlePatGod]

that would reli ruin the movie...eh.....

[AllKnowingJanito...]

oh no...
it is awful..
you know, sometimes real people are like that too...
ewwwwwww

[someflipguy]

Whoa...dude Pocohantas was so damn hot! I don't blame John Smith...haha...j/k!

[*[2]Nekked*]

why is this in entertainment? this is history..

[waccoon]

O_o

Wth?
Lounge = Random stuff.
Entertainment is like.. media stuff, sports and yeah.

[*CEP*]

I'd hit it.
I'd hit it hard.
The smallpox won't bother me much.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[waccoon]

I'd hit it.
I'd hit it hard.
The smallpox won't bother me much.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

Bald children turn you on too?

[*CEP*]

Bald children turn you on too?

Disease-ridden children do.
The fact that I might contract the disease makes the sex much more exciting.


- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[waccoon]

Disease-ridden children do.
The fact that I might contract the disease makes the sex much more exciting.


- Chinkieeyedpnoi

Rats gnawing on your penis gives you the same rush of excitement.

[*[2]Nekked*]

rofl guys


ok i read the true story

poccahontas wasnt intimate with john smith at all. she just saved his life when she was 12 (by getting in the way when he was to be executed). native american tradition was that john smith had to be given to poccahontas as a ward - that way she could vouch for him and whatnot. john smiths job was to make her toys n shit. then eventually he became accepted by her father as a son. they released him.

their tribe traded with the europeans for a while, and then the chief was accused of stealing amunition from the english, so they tricked poccahontas into boarding the ship, where they then proceeded to hold her captive for over a year. she was 16 at the time and she was raped and abused until they sold her to john rolfe. he treated her like a good wife, and she converted to christianity. they had a son named tom rolfe. poccahontas died at 22 from small pox (some say pneumonia)

[queen]

yah there you go... john rolfe ;X i was trying to come up with the name haha.. i saw a pic of her after she converted... she doesn't look like the one in the disney movie at all ;X

[JasonAkAWolf]

Nekked,Oct 13 2004, 10:15 AM] did you guys know that poccahontas was 12 when she met john smith? And John Smith was 38 at the time.

that serously ruined the whole movie for me. it used to be my favorite disney movie next to mulan.

lmao thats too funny

[lucky_clover]

that's gross..... i can't believe that!!!

[mizz_mithy]

i learned that last year and it sorta freaked me out. after that i couldn't watch the movie for awhile.

[angel-roh]

rofl you serious? that's scary

[*tweeak*]

i found this out quite a while ago and it never bugged me. for a tale of true pedophiles, the crucible

[gigiopolis]

26.
That's not that bad...

Aw c'mon, HE COULD BE HER FRICKIN FATHER.

Reminds me of the novel Lolita. In the movie, they made her 15 or something so it wouldn't seem so gross. UGH.

I am so glad I can't remember what Pocahontas was about, because that would have totally ruined my liking of children's movies. =\

[diezelbabygrl_xo...]

John Smith and Pochahontas didn't have a sexual relationship- it was purely platonic.

Anyway, age ain't nothing but a number....

[hi-C]

John Smith and Pochahontas didn't have a sexual relationship- it was purely platonic.

Anyway, age ain't nothing but a number....

Yeah, but age can put you in prison.

[WhiteLotus*]

haha. Pochauntus looked so grown up. She went through puberty early.

[SarahxJoy]

Haha just kidding.
I don't know. Maybe things were different back then?

Yeah, things were different back then.
Girls in the old days were set up to marry around the age of fourteen with guys who were like in their late 20s to 40s.
I'm just glad that things have changed.
'Cause I'm fourteen right now!

[imadorkabledxd]

omg..gross!!! yea..i dont think i'll ever see it the same way now..gosh...

[x_babii_gherl_x]

yeah my teacher told us that a couple months ago..and i saw what she really looked like.. and she's realllly not that good looking... ;/

[*tweeak*]

wasnt this moved to entertainment?

[christiee_nax]

howd you know bout that anyways

[Spirited Away]

Come on kiddies! Read the previous posts and REREAD if you must but get the general point!

Their historical relationship was not a romantic one.

You people scares me when you make me think you believe Disney was historically correct in the movie .

[Teesa]

^ lol i KNOW=)..we learned that in history class last year and i was like OHHH..haha

[knarf_knarf_knar...]

That is some pretty twisted stuff im going to have bad dreams now ahhhhh
knarF

[Flaunted]

lion king was my favorite movie.
or beauty and the beast,
anywho

so....native-american preteens look like that?! holy shit.

[sammi rules you]

Umm...John Smith and Pocahontas really weren't all that intimate. Disney just manipulated the facts of the story to produce a...well...really fantastic movie. Pocahontas is off the hizzle.

And yes, Pocahontas did marry John Rolfe (when she was older). He took her off to England or something. She probably converted to the Anglican and died in the English countryside. (I've forgotten the true story.)

yeah..they weren't like, in love or something.
and she did die in england, only cause she wasn't immune to diseases there.

[najae]

Nekked,Oct 13 2004, 10:15 AM] did you guys know that poccahontas was 12 when she met john smith? And John Smith was 38 at the time.

12?? Really?? Wow, she doesn't look 12 in the movie

Girls in the old days were set up to marry around the age of fourteen with guys who were like in their late 20s to 40s.
I'm just glad that things have changed.
'Cause I'm fourteen right now!

I hear ya! Who wants to marry some smelly old dude when you're just starting your teens?

[1--GIRL]

She looked 20 in the movie and he looked 24. Disney are such Liars. Psh.

[heyyfrankie]

no i did not know that. and Mulan is my cousin's favorite movie. he watches it everynight before he goes to bed!

[hi-C]

She looked 20 in the movie and he looked 24. Disney are such Liars. Psh.

He didn't look any 24 years old, John Smith looked 30-35. And they're not liars, they were trying to make a good movie. That and a 12 year old with a 30 year old is a bit too Michael Jackson for Disney.

[xxhaniotissaxx]

eww.... john smith & poccahontas werent even sexually related in real history. but disney likes to change the stories around

i dont have a favorite disney movie .. i like alot of em

edit://

He didn't look any 24 years old, John Smith looked 30-35. And they're not liars, they were trying to make a good movie. That and a 12 year old with a 30 year old is a bit too Michael Jackson for Disney.

if they just wanted to make a "good movie" they could of randomly chosen an indian girl & some white dude from england to make a "good movie". they didnt have to take poccahontas's story & eff it up ...

[hi-C]

if they just wanted to make a "good movie" they could of randomly chosen an indian girl & some white dude from england to make a "good movie". they didnt have to take poccahontas's story & eff it up ...

Disney likes choosing heroines with some notoriety, i.e. Mulan. So some random Indian ( let's be PC here, shall we) and some random white dude from England wouldn't've worked.

[*RiC3xBoy*]

interesting...i didnt no that

[nyCzxfOx]

of course disney lied.. drawing a 12 year old and a 38 year old..
i mean what would the kids watching it might end up thinking

[Kit]

lolz eyww...

[emptyminded]

hahahahahaha

john proctor was a pedophile too, maybe it comes with the name?
he was like 60 and abigail was 11 and they had an affair, so in the play the crucible they changed it to him being in his 40s and her being 17 for the play so it wouldnt be so gross

and billy joel just married a 23 year old, but his names not john so it doesnt matter


oh, and the people back in salem in the witch trials were all on lsd    the rye went bad that year 

In "The Crucible", they never had an affair. It was made up. But she was 12 and he was older.

::I learned that like 2 months ago when we read and watched it.

Oh and that drug thing hasn't been proved yet.

[knarf_knarf_knar...]

Thats quite weird

[*tweeak*]

In "The Crucible", they never had an affair. It was made up. But she was 12 and he was older.

::I learned that like 2 months ago when we read and watched it.

Oh and that drug thing hasn't been proved yet.

i know, its basically the same thing as in poccahontus- they moved the ages closer and changed the relationship. except differently.

and it may not have been porved, but its quite likely

[*StanleyThePanda*]

yeah I knew she was WAY younger than him.....but little kids dont know these things lol. and yes alice in wonderland hahaha I watched that recently.

Disney movies are screwed over. lol jk I actually like disney movies....its just when you get to deep into everything like poccahantus being under aged or there being drugs in wonderland then it just kind of ruins it. haha it is kinda funny though.

[diezelbabygrl_xo...]

Yeah, but age can put you in prison.

So can a lot of other things that people still do.

[f0reverxnxALWAYs...]

yea there was never a love thing going on between john smith and pocahontas. but disney always needs a love story so they made pocahontas older and john smith younger.

another random fact to go along with the "random fact" topic: did you know the pilgrims were cannibles? thats gross.

[NatiMarie]

:[
That's just great.
-______-

[*tweeak*]

who keeps bringing this thing back??!

[whywasisostupid]

wow thats horrible, disney is so f**ked up

howd u get f**ked without it being covered up.

ya and i hurd in the littlemermaid and lion king they put sum dirty stuff in the background.

[Chaos13]

kinda freaky! how could they allow this?

[xj_liana_tx]

pocahontas s my frind's accestress

[*_jelly_bean_*]

that is just sick.

[*tweeak*]

pocahontas s my frind's accestress

wtf is a "accestress"?

[iheartsimba]

wow...thats so weird...even though back then i guess it wasn't to uncommon =/

i love pochahontas...

[vehvih]

Umm...John Smith and Pocahontas really weren't all that intimate. Disney just manipulated the facts of the story to produce a...well...really fantastic movie. Pocahontas is off the hizzle.

And yes, Pocahontas did marry John Rolfe (when she was older). He took her off to England or something. She probably converted to the Anglican and died in the English countryside. (I've forgotten the true story.)

Oh... Ngyehehe