favorite rapper Options

[jr0h]

whos the best rapper out there in the U.S. that you think is good.
i think Kanye West has got some good talent of rapping. i luv his songs and his beat. i hate rap but i like kanye for some reason. so how bout yu??

[lpmatt618]

John Reuben........:-p

[SystemDamaged]

Slim Shady /Eminem /Marshall

[*corizzle20*]

50 cent- all the other rappers try to jock him, but he's the real deal

[Doctor Soul]

So hard to choose one. I'll have to post my top 5.

1 Mos Def
2 Gift Of Gab
3 Kweli
4 Common
5 Chali 2na

[mistahph0]

umm enimem

[inthemudhole]

Err.
The Beastie Boys.
They count.. right..?

[xquizit]

Talib Kweli or Mos Def.

[Doctor Soul]

50 cent

Are you serious man?

[xquizit]

Are you serious man?

Yeh, I was about to ask the same thing...

[*FreeStickers*]

Mos Def or Common. 50 Cent?! LMAO.

[*basick*]

Are you serious man?

yeah what he said. as for bestrapper, uhh nas, talib matter fact the whole black star, common, dead prez

kanye is nice but he def isnt the hottest thing out, he just the most popular artist thats putting out quality

[tsohg]

Common

[azn_r4pf4n]

Dang, thats a tuff one. Kayne is really great on his beats and rapping and stuff. So far pplz think MA$E and Kanye r good rappers. Ma$e is okay.. I got his NEW CD and its iight, i didnt like all the tracks. Kayne and Twista r good rappers. Nas is also good 2. Rap is very complicated, lol, so i dont rlly rank rappers. I'll just say Kanye, Twista, Nas, and MA$E r good rappers (not ranked)

[*instantmusic*]

Ludacris is the best rapper.
Best Rap Group: Beastie Boys

[*RiC3xBoy*]

not the best but his low voice sounds really cool so ill say Nate Dogg

[vivieeeen]

um...............does the dead count?

[WTFwasIthinking]

So hard to choose one. I'll have to post my top 5.

1 Mos Def
2 Gift Of Gab
3 Kweli
4 Common
5 Chali 2na

Talib Kweli or Mos Def.

Mos Def or Common. 50 Cent?! LMAO.

only respectable posts here... but ya'll ain't right either...

Common is one of the greatest ever and Talib's my second favorite rapper and Mos is one of my top 10 favorite but Em's the best... then Copywrite, Pharoahe Monch and Crooked I... there's more but those are the top 4 lyrically and as a MC

there were a few Eminem's but I think they're for the wrong reason so they're still not respectable... these are probably Eminem fans that never heard Infinite or 313, when he dropped on of the dopest verses EVER or understand why the lyricism in songs like 'Til I Collapse are so brilliant...

anyway, as for:

Ludacris is the best rapper.
Best Rap Group: Beastie Boys 

ignorance to another level...

not the best but his low voice sounds really cool so ill say Nate Dogg

and Nate Dogg ain't even a rapper... he's a singer and he does hooks on hip hop songs...

[imadorkabledxd]

eminem.

[SystemDamaged]

only respectable posts here... but ya'll ain't right either...

Common is one of the greatest ever and Talib's my second favorite rapper and Mos is one of my top 10 favorite but Em's the best... then Copywrite, Pharoahe Monch and Crooked I... there's more but those are the top 4 lyrically and as a MC

there were a few Eminem's but I think they're for the wrong reason so they're still not respectable... these are probably Eminem fans that never heard Infinite or 313, when he dropped on of the dopest verses EVER or understand why the lyricism in songs like 'Til I Collapse are so brilliant...

anyway, as for:



ignorance to another level...



and Nate Dogg ain't even a rapper... he's a singer and he does hooks on hip hop songs...

I have Infinite, not everyone is as stupid or gittish as you think they are. Stop being so ignorant and let other people have their own opinion. Sheesh.

[angel-roh]

i like kanye west to jenai...cause he's a fast rapper ... heemin women hater kekeke geun gun bbong e goo keke

[rhqtpie]

common is good and i LUV ludacris

[aud_chua]

EMINEM

[frzn-lilyv]

prolly nelly....i love his raps ^^

[latin mak oh roh...]

ludas got some good stuff, not great but pretty good. i got kanyes CD and its pretty good too but he's a producer first and that's what he's best at. of course tupacs up there but he's kind of not here so...does that count? twistas alrite but hes mainly just a fast rapper. definitely Mos def is up there.50 is ok but i think he's just mainly a hook guy. speakin of 50 lloyd banks was great but i dont know. maybe its just me but i think he's lost his touch. he's still pretty good though. recap...luda, pretty good. kanye, pretty good. tupac, good. twista, alright. mos def, very good.50, eh. lloyd banks, good but lost his touch

[jnukes]

Kanye West
TWISTA
Krayzie Bones
Luda
jay-z (nvm)
Nas
Jadakiss is aight
umm that new dude Houston he's pretty tight..

...ya

[*basick*]

only respectable posts here...  but ya'll ain't right either...

Common is one of the greatest ever and Talib's my second favorite rapper and Mos is one of my top 10 favorite but Em's the best... then Copywrite, Pharoahe Monch and Crooked I... there's more but those are the top 4 lyrically and as a MC

there were a few Eminem's but I think they're for the wrong reason so they're still not respectable... these are probably Eminem fans that never heard Infinite or 313, when he dropped on of the dopest verses EVER or understand why the lyricism in songs like 'Til I Collapse are so brilliant...

anyway, as for:



ignorance to another level...



and Nate Dogg ain't even a rapper... he's a singer and he does hooks on hip hop songs...

em aint the GOAT, hes nice for any rapper but he cant touch nas or common lyrically. and you guys is sleeping on dead prez. also another name that nobody is mentioning is KRS ONE. That was OG.

and PENtheINSTRUMENT you really sleeping on nas. i dont know how old you are but remember back in 1994 and what the state of hip hop was like. Nas just killed it, straight up killed it, with illmatic. i dont care how wack Streets Disciple is but nas will always be one of the GOATs (greatest of all time). and this thread is real wack. you cant call anyone the GOAT. and you guys who said 50 cent, luda, MA$E, nate dogg, you guys need to listen to more music.

[patrick004]

Some people posted legit answers. Kanye West is an average rapper but his beats can get you pumped up (but it looks like people are drying him up like a washcloth) .And btw, Nate Dogg isn't a rapper .

It's pretty difficult to choose just one. But now, I'm in the mood to listen to Masta Ace. I'm listening to both Disposable Arts and A Long, Hot Summer. He's legit.

[sharerolling]

Umm...not really into rap but I do like Eminem and Kanye West.

[patrick004]

em aint the GOAT, hes nice for any rapper but he cant touch nas or common lyrically. and you guys is sleeping on dead prez. also another name that nobody is mentioning is KRS ONE. That was OG.

and PENtheINSTRUMENT you really sleeping on nas. i dont know how old you are but remember back in 1994 and what the state of hip hop was like. Nas just killed it, straight up killed it, with illmatic. i dont care how wack Streets Disciple is but nas will always be one of the GOATs (greatest of all time). and this thread is real wack. you cant call anyone the GOAT. and you guys who said 50 cent, luda, MA$E, nate dogg, you guys need to listen to more music.

Dead Prez is pretty good but I wish they could tone down the racism.

[WTFwasIthinking]

I have Infinite, not everyone is as stupid or gittish as you think they are. Stop being so ignorant and let other people have their own opinion. Sheesh.

LMAO... you can have Infinite but what made Infinite so brilliant? what about Em's rhyming was considered so amazing in Infinite... there's a certain word for the type of style he spits... you seriously are ignorant in this scenario... sheesh

em aint the GOAT, hes nice for any rapper but he cant touch nas or common lyrically. and you guys is sleeping on dead prez. also another name that nobody is mentioning is KRS ONE. That was OG.

and PENtheINSTRUMENT you really sleeping on nas. i dont know how old you are but remember back in 1994 and what the state of hip hop was like. Nas just killed it, straight up killed it, with illmatic. i dont care how wack Streets Disciple is but nas will always be one of the GOATs (greatest of all time). and this thread is real wack. you cant call anyone the GOAT. and you guys who said 50 cent, luda, MA$E, nate dogg, you guys need to listen to more music.

Em will easily sh*t on Nas or Common... show me a verse that's doper than 313's verse by Nas or Common... Nas isn't even in the same category as Common or Em... Nas is one of the most overrated MC's of all time... KRS One's style is basic as f*ck compared to guys of today... he rhymed one syllable rhymes and if you actually listen to his metaphors, they're very VERY basic... at the time, it was brilliant and he is a legend, undoubtedly, but his style is too simplistic compared to MC's of today...

I"m 19 and I lived through the so called Nas era... and you can look back to 94 with Illmatic but other than It Was Written, IMO, his albums are garbage... and his lyricism even in Illmatic is overrated... production and originality (at the time) got him the legend status on that album... compared to even conscious rappers of today, Nas lacks... Common, Talib, Pharoahe, and Mos Def ALL sh*t ON HIM EASILY.... guys like Copywrite, Crooked I, Eyedea, Planet Asia, JR Writer, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Royce da 5'9, Vakill, Juice, and a ton of others sh*t on Nas EASILY.....

[patrick004]

I"m 19 and I lived through the so called Nas era... and you can look back to 94 with Illmatic but other than It Was Written, IMO, his albums are garbage... and his lyricism even in Illmatic is overrated... production and originality (at the time) got him the legend status on that album... compared to even conscious rappers of today, Nas lacks... Common, Talib, Pharoahe, and Mos Def ALL sh*t ON HIM EASILY.... guys like Copywrite, Crooked I, Eyedea, Planet Asia, JR Writer, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Royce da 5'9, Vakill, Juice, and a ton of others sh*t on Nas EASILY.....

You might say he's overrated but...

[racegirl24A]

I dont think there is a "best" rapper, because I think rap is really annoying

[LiNHy POO]

kayne west and eminem for their lyrics... not much about sex,girls, and money... thats good. i think twista because his flow is pretty fast.

[*basick*]

LMAO... you can have Infinite but what made Infinite so brilliant? what about Em's rhyming was considered so amazing in Infinite... there's a certain word for the type of style he spits... you seriously are ignorant in this scenario... sheesh



Em will easily sh*t on Nas or Common... show me a verse that's doper than 313's verse by Nas or Common... Nas isn't even in the same category as Common or Em... Nas is one of the most overrated MC's of all time... KRS One's style is basic as f*ck compared to guys of today... he rhymed one syllable rhymes and if you actually listen to his metaphors, they're very VERY basic... at the time, it was brilliant and he is a legend, undoubtedly, but his style is too simplistic compared to MC's of today...

I"m 19 and I lived through the so called Nas era... and you can look back to 94 with Illmatic but other than It Was Written, IMO, his albums are garbage... and his lyricism even in Illmatic is overrated... production and originality (at the time) got him the legend status on that album... compared to even conscious rappers of today, Nas lacks... Common, Talib, Pharoahe, and Mos Def ALL sh*t ON HIM EASILY.... guys like Copywrite, Crooked I, Eyedea, Planet Asia, JR Writer, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Royce da 5'9, Vakill, Juice, and a ton of others sh*t on Nas EASILY.....

please. nas is the modern day pioneer of rap. you never heard a thing like "rewind" before nas dropped it on stillmatic. when nas dropped "i can" on gods son, everyboody slept on it and called him soft. look now BET wanted him to perform it at this yrs awards and everyone from kanye to mobb deep is making positive songs like these. 3 yrs after it came out.

and i heard 313. i heard plenty of better verses then that. listen to AZ's verse on Lifes a B*tch or Nas's verse on NY state of mind. NAS is eminems idol. when nas dissed em, em wasnt even going to respond cause he looks up to nas.

[ohBrian]

yooy kanye west, jay z, JADAKISS!!

[WTFwasIthinking]

please. nas is the modern day pioneer of rap. you never heard a thing like "rewind" before nas dropped it on stillmatic. when nas dropped "i can" on gods son, everyboody slept on it and called him soft. look now BET wanted him to perform it at this yrs awards and everyone from kanye to mobb deep is making positive songs like these. 3 yrs after it came out.

and i heard 313. i heard plenty of better verses then that. listen to AZ's verse on Lifes a B*tch or Nas's verse on NY state of mind. NAS is eminems idol. when nas dissed em, em wasnt even going to respond cause he looks up to nas.

Rewind wasn't that original IMO... honestly, Pharoahe Monch's verse in Stray Bullet was so much more original and more dope... I Can was garbage IMO and not because he's soft... and get the f*ck outta here about Kanye making songs like that because Nas... Kanye got his style off Talib Kweli... even if you listen to Kanye's album, he says Talib's helped 'em out the most outta any rapper... do you not remember Kanye producing the two dopest tracks off Quality!?!?! Talib murders Nas and he's SOO SOOOOOOOOOO more conscious... Nas is fake as f*ck as well... he talks all this bullsh*t about Africa 'n sh*t but he never even goes there... Talib goes there every year, to the conferences, and gives and raises up money to give to poor people... seriously, you gotta major bias cuz I can see in the avatar who you like... he ain't the dopest or even close to it

Nas's verse on NY State of Mind is garbage... c'mon... and Nas ain't Eminem's idol.... that's just ignorant... you're truly truly retarded... Em's been rhyming before he even heard of Nas du'... LL Cool J, Redman, and Tupac are his major idols with the influence of Rakim, Kool G Rap, and more in the rhyming area....

NAS in NEW YORK STATE OF MIND
Rappers I monkey flip 'em with the funky rhythm I be kickin
Musician, inflictin composition
of pain I'm like Scarface sniffin cocaine
Holdin a M-16, see with the pen I'm extreme, now
Bulletholes left in my peepholes
I'm suited up in street clothes
Hand me a nine and I'll defeat foes
Y'all know my steelo with or without the airplay
I keep some E&J, sittin bent up in the stairway
Or either on the corner bettin Grants with the celo champs
Laughin at baseheads, tryin to sell some broken amps
G-Packs get off quick, forever niggaz talk sh*t
Remeniscing about the last time the Task Force flipped
Niggaz be runnin through the block shootin
Time to start the revolution, catch a body head for Houston
Once they caught us off guard, the Mac-10 was in the grass and
I ran like a cheetah with thoughts of an assassin
Pick the Mac up, told brothers, "Back up," the Mac spit
Lead was hittin niggaz one ran, I made him backflip
Heard a few chicks scream my arm shook, couldn't look
Gave another squeeze heard it click yo, my sh*t is stuck
Try to cock it, it wouldn't shoot now I'm in danger
Finally pulled it back and saw three bullets caught up in the chamber
So now I'm jetting to the building lobby
and it was filled with children probably couldn't see as high as I be
(So whatchu sayin?) It's like the game ain't the same
Got younger niggaz pullin the triggers bringing fame to they name
and claim some corners, crews without guns are goners
In broad daylight, stickup kids, they run up on us
Fo'-fives and gauges, Macs in fact
Same niggaz'll catch a back to back, snatchin yo' cracks in black
There was a snitch on the block gettin niggaz knocked
So hold your stash until the coke price drop
I know this crackhead, who said she gotta smoke nice rock
And if it's good she'll bring ya customers in measuring pots, but yo
You gotta slide on a vacation
Inside information keeps large niggaz erasin and they wives basin
It drops deep as it does in my breath
I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
Beyond the walls of intelligence, life is defined
I think of crime when I'm in a New York state of mind

EMINEM's 313
So what, you know about a sweet MC, in the 313
You don't know sh*t so when you see one flee
You can be Run-D, you'll never be the MC
I'll stop the alphabet at S and got it down to a T
I'm sure your bound to agree, a sweet MC crashes the spot
I'll make the roof hot like I was Rock Master Scott
Your ass forgot, so just in case you don't remember me
I'll run your brain around the block to jog your f**king memory
It's either them or me man, kill or be killed
You will and be sealed your casket closed you still gonna be billed
My facilities filled with fans, packed to capacity
I'll send a rapper back with the crack of his ass sh*tty
If he's acting soft and he cowers
He better come cleaner then Jay Rue jacking off when he showers
You flowers got no clout with a thing
You could date a stick of dynamite and wouldn't go out with a bang
I showered the slang, simple as A,B,C's
Skip over the D's and rock the microphone with E's
Dethrone MC's and I'ma max alone
Relax your dome like a solo from a saxophone
So facts are known, writers get treated with shocks
I rock a beat harder then you could beat it with rocks
I'm greeted with flocks, of fellow follower's singers
You couldn't make the fans throw up their hands if they swallowed their
fingers
But you can bring yours let's see what you got
But don't front and never try to be what you're not
Cause you can be quick, jump the candlestick, burn your back
And f*ck Jill on a hill, but you still ain't Jack


you know how many quotables are in Em's 313 verse? you probably don't even understand half of 'em, dass why you're talkin' nonsense....

and anyway, when the f*ck did Nas diss Em!?!?! Nas is cool wit Em du'... Em produced a track for Em on God's Son... a track that Em wanted to be on REALLY BADLY but Nas didn't let it happen: rumors are he was shook of gettin' outshined like Hov... anyway, back to the point... Nas never went at Em to my knowledge... they were even at Detroit's hip hop convention together, sitting next to each other just last year... seriously, you don't know what'chu talkin' about

[*Statistik*]

Ummm G-Unit and Jay-Z

[WTFwasIthinking]

^ignorance at G-Unit... and Hov is dope but not the greatest

[x emo screamo x]

i think Kanye West has got some good talent of rapping. i luv his songs and his beat. i hate rap but i like kanye for some reason. so how bout yu??

Odd. i don't like rap AT ALL, but Kanye is cool does that make sense? LOl. I love Jesus Walks and All Falls Down

ha, and i'm just sitting here reading all the stuff you guys are fighting about thinking 'what the hell?'.

I'm obviously not into rap as much as ya'll are...

I'm more of a rock person

[lylbabyblooz]

kayne west and eminem for their lyrics... not much about sex,girls, and money... thats good. i think twista because his flow is pretty fast.

haha i agree. those other rappers .. all they ever mention in their lyrics is `bout their jewlery, girls, sex, money etc.

[WTFwasIthinking]

ya'll need to listen to some Pharoahe Monch, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Eyedea, Immortal Technique, Royce da 5'9, Juice, Vakill... those guys don't talk about sex, jewelery, and girls...

[x emo screamo x]

ya'll need to listen to some Pharoahe Monch, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Eyedea, Immortal Technique, Royce da 5'9, Juice, Vakill... those guys don't talk about sex, jewelery, and girls...

I guess I wouldn't really know...Never heard of any of them then again I'm not 19 and into rap like you...but yeah...still..

[WTFwasIthinking]

Here, I posted a song by Talib Kweli for anyone that has yet to hear a song by him.... this one's actually produced by Kanye West and it's called Lonely People... listen to his lyrics and the depth of each thought and line... left click and download it...

http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=9F0340EA...90A377768BA5D9C

and leave feedback for the people that are closed minded and won't give new music a chance.........

OH YEAH, AND THIS SONG SHITS ALL OVER ANY SONG NAS HAS EVER MADE... KWELI HAS 2 CLASSICS, ONE NEAR CLASSIC, AND BEAUTIFUL STRUGGLE'S GOIN' TO BE HIS THIRD CLASSIC (I'VE HAD THE ADVANCE SINCE JANUARY AND IT'S MASTERFUL).........

that's 3 classics and one near classic in four albums... Blackstar, Reflection Eternal, Quality, and Beautiful Struggle... support the cause and cop his album at the end of this month!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[patrick004]

C'mon people, I've said this before, why comment in a thread when you don't like or care about what the topic's about?


The way Eminem was rapping during his Infinite days was similar to Nas's Illmatic days, which is wyy some people claimed that Eminem was biting Nas and also Jay-Z on Reasonable Doubt. Just some info.


Now I'm listening to a bunch of Immortal Technique tracks. He's also an awesome MC.



PEN, I've heard good remarks about Vakill. Do you have on any suggestions to what songs I should hear from him?

[sumzilla]

uh..Where's Tupac? you mean the greatest rapper of all time? THen it's gotta be tupac, biggie is okay but if you compare him to tupac he's garabage...and Big L? Eazy-E is catchy as well...all y'all talking about weak rap of today..Nas is aight, and guess who his style is based on..yup tupac

[*basick*]

holy sh*t you are retarded. if you need some refreshing nas called em a corporate sl*t on hot 97. so shut the f*ck up. and to quote another member

not everyone is as stupid or gittish as you think they are. Stop being so ignorant

this is nas's exact quote on hot 97

Shady is just the corporate slut from the suburbs that Interscope used to steal our music.
He's nothin but a tool, not to knock his rhymes, but he's a tool.

ill even send you a link if you still think im lying.
i dunno maybe im a d/rider but at least im not a complete hater.

and also nas listed nas and jay as two rappers that he idolizes back on 2002. ill try to find a link for you aswell

and you really stupid if you think nas hasnt made a song better then "lonely people".

Rewind wasn't that original IMO

Fair statement. But name one song like that before that song dropped.

as for vakill, listen to Til the World Blows Up that songs pretty hot or get his album the darkest cloud.

[*basick*]

uh..Where's Tupac? you mean the greatest rapper of all time?  THen it's gotta be tupac, biggie is okay but if you compare him to tupac he's garabage...and Big L?  Eazy-E is catchy as well...all y'all talking about weak rap of today..Nas is aight, and guess who his style is based on..yup tupac

i believe nas's style is based on rakim, and it was rakim that brought him up., and biggie garbage? i believe you are a little biased.

[xquizit]

Huzzah! Go get 'em topheavy.

[heyyfrankie]

i think that eminem is a pretty good rapper, for a white guy that is!

[x emo screamo x]

i think that eminem is a pretty good rapper, for a white guy that is!

Yeah, Em's cool.

NOBODY QUOTE ME! I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RAP/HIP HOP AND I HAVE MY OWN OPINON

I'm confused with all of this...LOL. so once again, don't quote me. I'm not a big rap person. Can't touch that

[bhrama]

almost everybody sucks. Kanye west, Jay-z, and Eminem are like the best out there. Their songs actually have some kind of meaninngs.

[JessJR1022]

there is no such thing as a good rapper

[JuSt_OnE_tEaR]

....!!!!EMINEM of course!!!!!.....my all time fav rapper.....then i'd have to say Tupac.....then kanye

[WTFwasIthinking]

C'mon people, I've said this before, why comment in a thread when you don't like  or care about what the topic's about?


The way Eminem was rapping during his Infinite days was similar to Nas's Illmatic days, which is wyy some people claimed that Eminem was biting Nas and also Jay-Z on Reasonable Doubt. Just some info.


Now I'm listening to a bunch of Immortal Technique tracks. He's also an awesome MC.



PEN, I've heard good remarks about Vakill. Do you have on any suggestions to what songs I should hear from him?

VAKILL IS SICK!!!!!!!!!!

he said some line (not word for word) like: "Put F.U.N. on my d*ck for f*ck you ni99as / then I'ma go poke fun at ya b*tch!"

LMAO

Sickplicity is that song he says that in... peep the two songs he did with Juice cuz he ripped the sh*t outta 'em... Urban Legends and Out the Speakers... those three songs are classics... Fallen with Slug is another classic... A BRILLIANTLY told story-telling song with a twist at the end.... Vakill's one of the dopest PERIOD... one of the best punchline spitters but he's versatile, unlike most punch guys

that shiss hilarious!!!!! and Em's style is nothing like Nas's in my opinion... it was more like AZ flow/delivery with Kool G Rap/Rakim/his own style

on Infinite, Em's syllable rhyming is as good as it can get... Nas's syllable rhyming ain't that dope... it's actually almost nonexistent

holy sh*t you are retarded. if you need some refreshing nas called em a corporate sl*t on hot 97. so shut the f*ck up. and to quote another member


this is nas's exact quote on hot 97


ill even send you a link if you still think im lying.
i dunno maybe im a d/rider but at least im not a complete hater.

and also nas listed nas and jay as two rappers that he idolizes back on 2002. ill try to find a link for you aswell

and you really stupid if you think nas hasnt made a song better then "lonely people".


Fair statement. But name one song like that before that song dropped.

as for vakill, listen to Til the World Blows Up that songs pretty hot or get his album the darkest cloud.

well when was this!?!? and retard, do you not remember God's Son?!?!?! Em produced The Cross or whatever song it was... actually was wack... but regardless, and search google.com... Em and Nas were at the Detroit Hip Hop Summit in 2003... that would make Nas a hypocrite... and I ain't a hater... you're a dickrider... I don't hate, I have reasons to prove why he's overrated... all he's really supposedly great at is story telling and visual rhyming but anyone rhyming 1 syllable rhymes can do that... basic ass lyricist... SO YOU NEED TA SHUT THE F*CK UP cuz you ain't know sh*t ABOUT MCing/LYRICISM/bein' a dope rapper

Nas hasn't EVER MADE A SONG AS DOPE AS LONELY PEOPLE... Talib sh*t's on 'em... that's not the only song... the song about Love on reflection Eternal shits on anything Nas has EVER MADE AS WELL....

[WTFwasIthinking]

DELETE THIS POST PLEASE... I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DELETE POSTS HERE

[patrick004]

Thank guys, I'll check those songs out.

[SystemDamaged]

Not everyone is as stupid and gittish as you think they are. Stop being ignorant.

this is nas's exact quote on hot 97

Reeally? I totally didn't know that. I don't listen to Nas much, because I'm not a huge huge rap fan. I'm more of an everything fan. But Eminem 's still the best in MY, I repeat] MYY opinion.

[Mr. Psychotic]

i think no rappers are good at all because i dislike rap

[CrookedCriticism]

I don't listen to a lot of radio rap now a days, cause they always talk about the same stuff (smokin weed, f**en women, shootin guns, ect). Z-ro, k-rino and Scarface are my all time favorites, but if I had to choose from one of them I would say Z-ro the crooked.

[*basick*]

DELETE THIS POST PLEASE... I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DELETE POSTS HERE

why the f*ck am i arguing with someone that has lloydbanks playing in their xanga. somebody lock this post please.

[xquizit]

why the f*ck am i arguing with someone that has llyodbanks playing in their xanga.

LMAO. Seriously...

[WTFwasIthinking]

why the f*ck am i arguing with someone that has lloydbanks playing in their xanga. somebody lock this post please.

hey, the beat for the Banks track is dope as f*ck... I don't even feel Banks anymore, I used to before 50 dropped his album cuz he used to drop dope verses but not no more... he fell off hard since 50 dropped his album: guess he lost his hunger.....

and do you see who else is in my xanga? ummm, Dilated Peoples... of course someone that ain't into real hip hop would have a Dilated Peoples song on their Xanga....

and what, would you like me to put in???? Thief's Theme... NAH, not happenin' kid cuz that song and video's wack... the beat's dope as hell but he was SO off point in the song...

NAS:
Yo I'm hot like 95 Fahrenheit
On a summer night, tight spot where bodies rot
Rats drink from water drops, in the streets niggaz
Little kids scared cops, wit red dots
Philosophical gangsta, wit violent priors
Goin back like black and white TV's wit pliers
Leanin on broke down cars, wit flat tires
Flash iron, anybody tryin on, the blocks I'm supplyin on
Madicon, my peeps, tie ballons up
And swallow 'em and the P now got goons, lots of 'em
Cops see them and run, don't want no drama
Certain parts of the streets, the beast don't want a part of
Martyr, hood haunted like the Dakota
Where John Lennon was shot up, but he sang for peace
He begged for freedom, hanged wit wild Jamicians
From Kingston, who drink Irish Malts
Listenin to Peter Winston, Machintosh
Lightning hits the top of the church steeple
When I'm writin, semi-automatic no hyphen
It's frightening.... {*scratches*}


why you talkin' about John Lennon being shot up and lightning hitting the top of a church steeple in a song about Thieves? c'mon now... seriously, 'n you talkin' 'bout MC's lackin' skills... you really don't know sh*t...

c'mon, kid... get smart

you can't refute sh*t I say so you try to throw that at me? c'mon now... why don't you actually come with intelligent arguments instead of tryn' find a way outta a argument you ain't winnin'.... dummy, you lost

[rhqtpie]

i think some ppl r takin this a little too seriously, relax ppl and respect other ppls opinions

[*basick*]

hey, the beat for the Banks track is dope as f*ck... I don't even feel Banks anymore, I used to before 50 dropped his album cuz he used to drop dope verses but not no more... he fell off hard since 50 dropped his album:  guess he lost his hunger.....

and do you see who else is in my xanga?  ummm, Dilated Peoples... of course someone that ain't into real hip hop would have a Dilated Peoples song on their Xanga....

and what, would you like me to put in???? Thief's Theme... NAH, not happenin' kid cuz that song and video's wack... the beat's dope as hell but he was SO off point in the song...

NAS:
Yo I'm hot like 95 Fahrenheit
On a summer night, tight spot where bodies rot
Rats drink from water drops, in the streets niggaz
Little kids scared cops, wit red dots
Philosophical gangsta, wit violent priors
Goin back like black and white TV's wit pliers
Leanin on broke down cars, wit flat tires
Flash iron, anybody tryin on, the blocks I'm supplyin on
Madicon, my peeps, tie ballons up
And swallow 'em and the P now got goons, lots of 'em
Cops see them and run, don't want no drama
Certain parts of the streets, the beast don't want a part of
Martyr, hood haunted like the Dakota
Where John Lennon was shot up, but he sang for peace
He begged for freedom, hanged wit wild Jamicians
From Kingston, who drink Irish Malts
Listenin to Peter Winston, Machintosh
Lightning hits the top of the church steeple
When I'm writin, semi-automatic no hyphen
It's frightening.... {*scratches*}


why you talkin' about John Lennon being shot up and lightning hitting the top of a church steeple in a song about Thieves?  c'mon now... seriously, 'n you talkin' 'bout MC's lackin' skills... you really don't know sh*t...

c'mon, kid... get smart

you can't refute sh*t I say so you try to throw that at me?  c'mon now... why don't you actually come with intelligent arguments instead of tryn' find a way outta a argument you ain't winnin'.... dummy, you lost

it aint abvout theives, its about how everybody does things for their own selfish reasons. and guess what- the beautiful struggle got the same score as streets disciple in VIBE and XXL. not that that means anything but im just saying you dont gotta hate so much.

hmm and thief's theme not a great video? i guess lloyd bank's "Im so Fly" is a better video. Yep. Let's see...there's money, women, and cars. great video.

anyways, somebody lock this post

[eli5e]

twista , kanye west

[WTFwasIthinking]

it aint abvout theives, its about how everybody does things for their own selfish reasons. and guess what- the beautiful struggle got the same score as streets disciple in VIBE and XXL. not that that means anything but im just saying you dont gotta hate so much.

hmm and thief's theme not a great video? i guess lloyd bank's "Im so Fly" is a better video. Yep. Let's see...there's money, women, and cars. great video.

anyways, somebody lock this post

I know... such as gold diggers... and pimps and everyone else in this world... the video portrayed that well but the lyrics didn't... and Vibe and XXL's ratings don't mean sh*t to me... Talib Kweli is straight up a better lyricist than Nas... it ain't even close

and Thief's Theme's video woulda been dope if the lyrics portrayed what the video was... it wasn't... Nas talks about miscellaneous stuff in a song about thieves (not literally but technically, it is about thieves)

and the I'm So Fly had a MUCH doper beat and I liked the video... once again, lines like "cooler than the other side of the pillow" were wack... Banks needs to step his game up like he did before 50's album dropped... honestly, I'd rather listen to Banks mixtape sh*t BEFORE 50's album than 80% of what Nas has dropped since Illmatic and It Was Written....

and I'm sure you'd love to listen to songs like Oochie Wally more right??? here's a reminder of some of his lyrics in that song....

"Yo we got chicks in the living room
Getting it on and they leaving till 6 in the morning
Always for oochie
Oh you ain't know
How many hoes in the bankroll
Sort of like like the game show
Who wants to be a millionaire
But my name ain't Regis
Nas the one they call
When they want there thing beat up
Honeys' with bodies
With Bravehearts guns in the party
Waves, braids, and boldly,
Trademarks to army
Is that Horse it must be
I heard he husky
Yeah, there go jungle eyes red
Looking for trouble
And that's Nas dancing with dimes
But who's his manage
The imperial thug
Is cold deep grand wiz
We taking honeys' to the crib tonite
Grantee we going up in there rib tonite
Check the new slang
It's changed the braveheart gang bang
When you see me pass
Holla oochie bang bang"

I hope you had fun reading those pitiful lyrics

[xquizit]

Why are you posting up some of Nas' worst lyrics? Nas is still a great lyricist and rapper nonetheless. How about posting some of his better lyrics from Illmatic?

And puhleeze! You shouldn't even compare Lloyd Banks to Nas...

[patrick004]

OK, let's stop this argument.


Nelly is the best rapper of all time and it should be everyone's favorite MC. C'mon now, who didn't like Flap Your Wings? Shake Your Tailfeather?

Class dismissed.

[lucky_clover]

Slim Shady /Eminem /Marshall

hahaha, i agree with you.

[*basick*]

I know... such as gold diggers... and pimps and everyone else in this world... the video portrayed that well but the lyrics didn't...  and Vibe and XXL's ratings don't mean sh*t to me... Talib Kweli is straight up a better lyricist than Nas... it ain't even close

and Thief's Theme's video woulda been dope if the lyrics portrayed what the video was... it wasn't... Nas talks about miscellaneous stuff in a song about thieves (not literally but technically, it is about thieves)

and the I'm So Fly had a MUCH doper beat and I liked the video... once again, lines like "cooler than the other side of the pillow" were wack... Banks needs to step his game up like he did before 50's album dropped... honestly, I'd rather listen to Banks mixtape sh*t BEFORE 50's album than 80% of what Nas has dropped since Illmatic and It Was Written....

and I'm sure you'd love to listen to songs like Oochie Wally more right???  here's a reminder of some of his lyrics in that song....

"Yo we got chicks in the living room
Getting it on and they leaving till 6 in the morning
Always for oochie
Oh you ain't know
How many hoes in the bankroll
Sort of like like the game show
Who wants to be a millionaire
But my name ain't Regis
Nas the one they call
When they want there thing beat up
Honeys' with bodies
With Bravehearts guns in the party
Waves, braids, and boldly,
Trademarks to army
Is that Horse it must be
I heard he husky
Yeah, there go jungle eyes red
Looking for trouble
And that's Nas dancing with dimes
But who's his manage
The imperial thug
Is cold deep grand wiz
We taking honeys' to the crib tonite
Grantee we going up in there rib tonite
Check the new slang
It's changed the braveheart gang bang
When you see me pass
Holla oochie bang bang"

I hope you had fun reading those pitiful lyrics

i aint arguiing, oohchie wally was a WACK song, like jay said, even the bodyguard's verse was better then Nas verse. i can admit that. i never said talib wasnt a great artist, matter fact he in my top 5

I'd rather listen to Banks mixtape sh*t BEFORE 50's album than 80% of what Nas has dropped since Illmatic and It Was Written....

while im willing to admit that banks was semi-hot before 50 took over, if you realyl believe that statement, you are stupid as hell. stillmatic was a hot album and gods son was pretty hot aswell. this ain't even an argument, this is common sense. and you are the biggest hater slash em d/rider

tell me one mic and ether weren't hot.

[WTFwasIthinking]

i aint arguiing, oohchie wally was a WACK song, like jay said, even the bodyguard's verse was better then Nas verse. i can admit that. i never said talib wasnt a great artist, matter fact he in my top 5


while im willing to admit that banks was semi-hot before 50 took over, if you realyl believe that statement, you are stupid as hell. stillmatic was a hot album and gods son was pretty hot aswell. this ain't even an argument, this is common sense. and you are the biggest hater slash em d/rider

tell me one mic and ether weren't hot.

FIRST, lemme school you...

Banks was more than semi-hot before 50's album... Banks was one of the MC's prone to takeover hip hop at the time... he was one of the highest prospects at the time and was all over the mixtape scene... he won mixtape artist of the year at the mixtape awards the same year 50 was killing the mixtapes (this was before Get Rich or Die Trying came out)

Stillmatic wasn't that dope... a handful of hot songs and the rest were wack... and I'm not a Em d*ckrider, you're just a Nas d*ckrider and if I say anyone was doper than Nas, you'd say I was on their nuts...

God's Son was garbage.... his lyrics are average at best... some of his beats are dope, I ain't gon' front

ONCE IN A WHILE, he'll come with a semi-dope verse

Ether wasn't even as good of a diss track as people turn it into... it was full of fillers... Hov ripped du' in Takeover and Blueprint 2 (the song)... if Hov hadn't put out Super Ugly, it woulda been THAT MUCH MORE EVIDENT that he murdered Nas... everybody compared Super Ugly to Ether but Takeover was 100x better than Ether... it was all factuals compared to Nas's assumptions and attempts at bein' funny... (I admit, a few lines were funny though)... anyway, Hov broke down Nas's entire career perfectly... and at the time, I wasn't even feelin' Hov because he had fell off hard after Volume 1/2 so I wasn't favoring either... Hov brought his career back to life after Blueprint (great album)... Blueprint 2 was sick as hell as well (ESPECIALLY MEET THE PARENTS) and Black Album was a classic IMO...

anyway, back to the point... Nas had too many fillers in Ether... I hope you know what a filler is... anyway...

Nas ain't half the lyricist Em is... honestly, Banks has the lyrical stuff down better than Nas too but he's not a better artist because he doesn't have the skill to make a great album/song (not that Nas has since It Was Written)... Banks syllable rhyming and rhyme schemes are more developed than Nas's... his story telling lacks to Nas but it's harder to tell a story with more syllable rhyming (which Nas doesn't do well - he's trash at it), his punchlines/metaphors are better (back in the day - not now), Nas wins in the concepts... anyway, regardless, I rather listen to Banks spittin:

I got a intergangstress who argue and steams wit reefer
And who flip when I call a b*tch like she Queen Latifah
Not all the vehicle's is long enough to stash the streetsweeper
This sh*t can get uglier than the Master P sneaker
We slidin through the ruckus, wit prada on the chuckus
Soon as spring break ho's home from college wanna f*ck us
I ain't here to drop knowledge on you suckas
I'll sick rottweiler's on you fuckas, cops followin to cuff us
Top dollars to discuss this, whole lotta zeros
When it comes to paper I blow a soul outta aero
I'ma break before I lay floor berry
Besides, every rapper ain't a star, nigga plad ain't bulbary
You can't tame Lloyd, smokin by the big screen
You changin the channel looks like I'm playin the game boy
I know to watch botherin ya vision
You reach and I'll put a dot on ya head like its part of yo religion
Why party wit a pigeon?
I'm blowin a 10 cuz Bush handin flyers for a party in a prison
I'm in the gucci vest wit the green and red straps
I'm the last rapper to scare niggas since Craig Mack
Now every morning's a fast start
And there aint problem gettin dressed cuz my closet got more aisles than pathmark
Run, move startin a wave
and leave wit 12 shells in ya mouth like a carton of eggs
I'm the young pimp pardon my age
I don't got long hair but if I did she be partin' my braids
Niggas find what club they at
take 'em wit us, and run a train on 'em like a subway mac
get advances from grey acura
see these record labels got most artists gettin f**ked like the gay rappa'
i go the college on the tour
I'm goin down in history nigga, next to Wallace and Shakur
I keep ya ammo clean, text polished in the drawer
Camera's by the hamper that mine into the floor
by now, you probably heard of me
fresh outta surgery, flashy as a f*ck, you gon' have to murder me
Burglary, I'm leavin wit cha nike's bergendy, White T, bergendy
you match now, back down
niggas love to hate you, but love you when you disappear
catch me on the boat wit weed smoke and fishing gear
heavy when I toke, C notes from different years
Besly in the robe, re-motes for liftin chairs
You ain't rich, but we glad to snatch ya
I send cars to crib like I'm a cab dispatcha
you better off wit ya stupid guys, lookin for a coupe to drive
you ain't gettin nuttin but ya french fries supersized
it's a damn shame y'all still local
I'm in a million dollar studio layin my vocals

than anything Nas has spit in the last 5 years

oh, that's also at the girl that said:

Why are you posting up some of Nas' worst lyrics? Nas is still a great lyricist and rapper nonetheless. How about posting some of his better lyrics from Illmatic?

And puhleeze! You shouldn't even compare Lloyd Banks to Nas...

puhleeze!!! Nas ain't a great lyricist... you keep claiming that but you don't even know the components of what makes a great lyricist... you would never EVER understand.... and Nas doesn't have better lyrics... LMAO... *sike*

but as I said, I rather listen to anything by Banks before Get Rich or Die Trying over anything by Nas SINCE IT WAS WRITTEN which is past Illmatic time... and honestly, lyrically, ALL THE LYRICAL ELEMENTS, Nas was average-to-good then... he was just claimed so masterful then because at the time, it was somethin' new and at the time, lyrically, it was dope... but his style is basic as hell compared to certain guys of today...

ONCE AGAIN.... COPYWRITE, CROOKED I, VAKILL, PHAROAHE MONCH, TALIB KWELI, MOS DEF, RAKIM, COMMON, KOOL G RAP, BIG PUN, BIG L, EMINEM, ROYCE DA 5'9, EYEDEA, IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE, AND EVEN HOV ALL sh*t ON NAS.... ONCE AGAIN, GET SMART AND THEN COME TO ME............

YA'LL SERIOUSLY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT MAKES A DOPE MC AS IN THE LYRICAL STANDARDS... YOU JUST THINK IF WHAT HE SAYS IS DOPE THEN HE'S DOPE... ONCE AGAIN, AS FOR REALISM, NAS AIN'T EVEN REAL.... HE GOT COMPLETELY EXPOSED IN THE LAST 4 YEARS....

AND THERE'S EVEN MORE MC'S I COULD NAME THAT ARE DOPER BUT THAT'S IT FOR NOW.... FOR THE IGNORANT PEOPLE THAT SWEAR THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A GOOD MC, YA'LL ARE TRULY RETARDED... LEARN SOMETHIN' ABOUT LYRICISM AND THEN COME BACK TO ME....

PayCe ~1~

OH, LAST THING... FOR TOPHEAVY...

you really wanna pop sh*t about Lloyd Banks and you have Kanye West on that Milkshake beat on your Xanga!?!?! LMAO... anyway, Banks is a MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better lyricist than Kanye West...

Kanye ain't bad though, I actually like 'em a lot more as an artist than Banks cuz he actually talks about relevant issues and is my favorite producer (I'ma work wit 'em one day - watch!) ... anyway, once again, you tryn' diss Banks and have Kanye on that sh*t!?!?! I could even understand if it was one of Kanye's dope tracks but that sh*t is literally ASS!!! LMAO

anyway, iss all love

[*basick*]

look ether was partially untrue, but the majority is truth. look.

on the song december 4th he mentions a cat named dehaven,as the cat who put him in the drug game

well the truth is ,dehaven did more than that for Jay,he also took a bullet for Jay an did a bid for Jay,Dehaven was a live thug cat who was getting money out of town an he put hove on........hove went into the game without all that nickle a dimeing bullsh1,he went straight to making real money in the game.

Hove used to always have a pen and a pad an he would write about everything he saw in the projects .he used to get clowned cause when he an his boys used to go to the store hove would always buy a pen a pad.he was always writing.Its a joke about he never writes stuff down.

Jay was huge fan of nas an would always talk about this ill cat from Queens bridge(nas).Jay was a battle mc to the fullest,everything you think canibus an supernat are.Jay is the same way.....all he would do is battle cats in the early 90s but he did not feel he was ready for nas during the early 90s but he was sure BIG was ready for nas.Yall ever notice how JZ an LL have never done a song together or tour together.Remeber when bis was like from ice t to kool moe D to jay Z.........well Jay was in a talent show an the judges were DMC an LL..Jay lost but was clearly the nicest..so he an his crew were heated,later on LL came out an was like yo you real ill I can get you signed to defjam but jay man was like f--- that you aint vote for my man in the contest so f--- you an then Jay was like yo I know im nice so fukk you,then him an ll got into an argument..mind you Jay had no music out during this period so ll was like that is why you aint never gone blow.Its seems LL an Jay have never forgotten that episode.

like for instance ether was all true except for Jay age,Jaz o told nas all that info.remeber when nas said hanging with little chase,well chase is a short cat from marcy who Jay used to follow around back in the days.
Jaz O told alot of dirt on hov that nas did not even use but you notice how nas mentioned Jaz names 4 seperate times in the song?.

read it.

[*basick*]

and when the f*ck did i ever say nas was the GOAT? i said you sleeping on him and he deserves to be recognized as ONE OF THE GOATS. i dont belive in a GOAT.

the artists you listed-
COPYWRITE, CROOKED I, VAKILL, PHAROAHE MONCH, TALIB KWELI, MOS DEF, RAKIM, COMMON, KOOL G RAP, BIG PUN, BIG L, EMINEM, ROYCE DA 5'9, EYEDEA, IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE,

when the f*ck did i say that they werent nice? add pac and big and nas in there and you got yourself a f*cking top 20 in rap. anyways yeah its all love

[WTFwasIthinking]

Nas and Pac nor Big deserve to be in a list of MC's like that... those MC's would all sh*t on all three.....

Big and Pac are the two most overrated rappers of all time... Nas is up there in the top 5... Nas ain't even close to one of the GOAT's

yes, one GREAT album and one really good one... then trash from that point on.... Big and Pac are two of the most influential ever but they ain't the greatest ever or even close to it... had none of the lyrical sh*t down....

HERE WE GO... lemme break down Ether:

Brace yourself for the main event
Y'all impatiently waitin
It's like an AIDS test, what's the results?
Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big - ALL FILLERS
Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy
I embrace y'all with napalm
Blows up, no guts, left chest, face gone
How could Nas be garbage?
Semi-autos at your cartilege why the f*ck is he talkin' about shootin' up Roc-a-fella artist when he knows he ain't no thug... fake sh*t... more fillers
Burner at the side of your dome, come outta my throne
I got this, locked since '9-1
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas dope dope line, unless you know anything 'bout God/Jesus then wouldn't understand but that's dope
With Hawaiin Sophie fame, kept my name in his music

I've been f**ked over, left for dead, dissed and fogotten
Luck ran out, they hoped that I'd be gone, stiff and rotten
Y'all just piss on me, sh*t on me, spit on my grave (uh)
Talk about me, laugh behind my back but in my face
Y'all some well wishin (bitches), friendly actin envy hidin snakes
With your hands out for my money, man, how much can I take?
When these streets keep callin, heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef that sh*t was so lazy and childish... c'mon Nas, that's the best you can do???????
Started cockin up my weapon, slowly loadin up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle
This for dolo and his manuscript just sound stupid
When KRS already made an album called "Blueprint" that's stupid as well... lame diss cuz you know how many people have albums with the same name or very similar???
First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
d*ck suckin lips, whyn't you let the late, great veteran live Hov never even said he's better than Big... he said: "IF I'M NOT DOPER THAN BIG, I'M THE CLOSEST ONE...." that's the line he's talkin' about.... that's just sayin' he's second best (he ain't though)


Y'all niggas deal with emotions like bitches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches [b]dope... liked that sh*t f'real f'real
My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watchin his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is harsh, hug me, don't reject me dope
or make records to disrespect me, blatant or indirectly
In '88 you was gettin chased through your buildin
Callin my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was gave you a style for you to run with that was lazy... he acts like Hov wasn't rappin' before he heard of Nas... and also, another thing, even if he did, that's like sayin' Nas bit Rakim cuz his style was similar, to a level, as his
Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearin Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a p*ssy, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate classage was wrong and the last several bars were fillers.... and Hov ain't even in a Karate class... he wasn't tryna diss Hov, he was playin' a immature namecalling game... it's lazy and it's fillers
You Tae-bo hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic?
Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
Nah, I'm tryna' kick the sh*t you need to learn though
That ether, that sh*t that make your soul burn slowmore lazy lines
Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffymore lazy sh*t
Rockefeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after? that was dope
Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas I honestly can't believe he was attemptin' to use this as wordplay... that's LAAAAAMMMMMMEEEE...
And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you gettin girls now 'cause of your looks?dope
Ne-gro please
You no mustache havin, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wackretarded
And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You ass, went from Jaz to hangin with Kane, to Irv, to Big
And, Eminem murdered you on your own sh*tthat hit hard
You a d*ck-ridin faggot, you love the attention
Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons
Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick
Shaun Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz d*ck
So little shorty's gettin gunned up and clapped quick
How much of Biggie's rhymes is gon' come out your fat lips?aright...
Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
You pop sh*t, apologize, nigga, just ask Kiss

it's a overrated diss track... everyone tryn' compare it to a great diss track... it honestly ain't... it's too many fillers... Hov murdered 'em.... peep his two disses that are doper than anything Nas said in the entire beef:

I know you missin all the - FAAAAAAAME!
But along with celebrity comes bout seventy shots to your frame
Nigga; you a - LAAAAAAAME! lazy but it was funny... i had to laugh the first time I heard it
Youse the fag model for Karl Kani/Esco ads
Went from, Nasty Nas to Esco's trash
Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage
Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours DAMN!!!! those bars hit hard as f*ck
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole f**kin song
but I know - the sun don't shine, then son don't shineLMAO
That's why your - LAAAAAAAME! - career come to a end
There's only so long fake thugs can pretend
Nigga; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your lifeDAMN... all factuals... see the difference between him 'n Nas... 'n he completely played Nas because even Nas knows this is true... he was never a thug/gangsta or sold crack or nuttin'; though he tried to portray that image early in his career
I showed you your first tec on tour with Large Professor
(Me, that's who!) Then I heard your album bout your tec on the dresserLMAO... perfectly setup and hard hittin' as f*ck again
So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot songmore of the sickness
And you ain't get a coin nigga you was gettin f**ked and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing
Use your - BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years nigga? I can divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them shits was due
One was - NAHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year averageIT WAS OVER AT THIS POINT... SO SO SO SO SOOOO SICK.... BROKE DOWN HIS ENTIRE CAREER... I WAS LIKE "HOLY sh*t!"
And that's so - LAAAAAAAME! Nigga switch up your flow
Your sh*t is garbage, but you try and kick knowledge?
(Get the f*ck outta here) You niggaz gon' learn to respect the king
Don't be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen
Because you know who (who) did you know what (what)
with you know who (yeah) but just keep that between me and you for nowSICK... more factuals... LMAO... boned Nas's girl...


BLUEPRINT 2:
Can't y'all, see that he's fake, the rap version of TD jakes
Prophesizing on your CDs and tapesdope
Won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes
And this is with whom you want to place your faith?once again, as I said... he's fake about all that talk about Africa 'n bullsh*t... he doesn't even go there on the real tip... that's some lazy sh*t... at least Kweli goes to the conventions in South Africa and raises money 'n sh*t... Nas dun' wanna back his word and go and help the people he speaks about helpin' all the time
I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
Donating proceeds off every ticket sold
When I was out on the road, that's how you judge Hov, no?SO SO SO SICK... proving more and more how Nas is fake and people tried to say Nas won but really didn't
Ain't I supposed to be absorbed myself?
Every time there's a tragedy, I'm the first one to help
They call me this misogynist, but they don't call me the dude
To take his dollars to give gifts at the projects
These dudes is all politics, depositing checks
they put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip
And y'all buy the sh*t, caught up in the hype
Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright
Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bs that he writeLMAO... that sh*t was so muh'f*ckin' SICK!!! damn, the last four bars were sick
Is it "Oochie Wally Wally" or is it "One Mic"?
Is it "Black Girl Lost" or shorty owe you for ice?damn...
I've been real all my life, they confuse it with conceit
Since I will not lose, they try to help him cheat
But I will not lose, for even in defeat
There's a valuable lesson learned, so it evens it up for me
When the grass is cut, the snakes will show
I gotta thank the little homie Nas for that though
Saving me the hassle of speaking to half of these assholes
And I'ma let karma catch up to Jaz-O, whoa
I'm back before you had a chance to miss me
My mama can't save you this time, niggas is history
Who you know flow vicious as me?
Yet so religiously, that's why they call me Hov
I get the spoils cause the victor is me (me, nigga)
You're an actor, you're not who you're depicted to be
The street dreamin, all y'all niggas living through me
I gave you life when niggas was forgetting you emcee
I'm a legend, you should take a picture with me
You should be happy to be in my presence, I should charge you a fee
I'm Big Dog, Glenn Rob, listen God you a flea
And the little homey Jungle is a garden to me
What's the problem B? You not as hard as me
Nigga hard as we, nigga R O C, nigga
That's why they follow me, they feel my pain and my agony, nigga
I won't rest till you on one knee
You want war then it's war's gonna be, nigga
Until you on one knee, you want war then it's war's gonna be, nigga

THE REST WAS HISTORY... sh*t was dope as f*ck

[Looow]

Kanye & Eminem

[*basick*]

Rockefeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after? that was dope

that wasnt dope that was a lie... rockafella wasn't even alive when AIDS was discovered, that was 50+ yrs past his time...

and the i rock hoes yall rock fellas that was dope... im beginning to think you dont even know that much about rap and you just makin sh*t up

[*basick*]

ok sorry for double posting the edit button is f*cked up for me so anyways you obviously didnt read my last post about the facts of ether if you are too lazy to read the whole thing read the last part. but ill post it here again.

while i was reading through your fairly accurate but biased review of ether and takeover, i noticed you didnt have any comments about this part of the song

milin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearin Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a p*ssy, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class

now read this - like for instance ether was all true except for Jay age,Jaz o told nas all that info.remeber when nas said hanging with little chase,well chase is a short cat from marcy who Jay used to follow around back in the days. Jaz O told alot of dirt on hov that nas did not even use but you notice how nas mentioned Jaz names 4 seperate times in the song?

also you didnt mention this part of the song either.

Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick

well, in case you didnt know, the rocafella records was just sold (reportadely). im not saying nas had anyhing to do with it, but it came true in the end didnt it?
and you talking about how lloyd banks has better punchlines and sh*t but being a good/great battle rapper does not make you a good rapper period. i mean, look at cassidy. he can kill anyone in a battle but youre not gonna mistake him for a good rapper are you? or jin. he is ill when battling but his songs have been wack lately (except hands off thats pretty hot).

i aint saying battle artists cant be good rappers (elliot ness) but im sayin you dont hafta be a good battle rapepr to be a good rapper. nas doesnt even battle.

anyways, back to takeover. you didnt post the whole song! you post the whole "ether" which you classified as half fillers. how about you and i listen to takeover.

I don't care if you Mobb Deep, I hold triggers to crews
You little f*ck, I've got money stacks bigger than you
When I was pushin weight, back in eighty-eight
you was a ballerina I got your pictures I seen ya
Then you dropped "Shook Ones," switch your demeanor
Well - we don't believe you, you need more people
Roc-A-Fella, students of the game, we passed the classes
Nobody could read you dudes like we do
Don't let 'em gas you like Jigga is ass and won't clap you
Trust me on this one - I'll detach you
Mind from spirit, body from soul
They'll have to hold a mass, put your body in a hole
No, you're not on my level get your brakes tweaked
I sold what ya whole album sold in my first week
You guys don't want it with Hov'
Ask Nas, he don't want it with Hov', nooooo!

hmm... that was pretty wack wasnt it... but the "we don't believe you you need more people" always makes me laugh. previous verse please

The takeover, the break's over nigga
God MC, me, Jay-Hova
Hey lil' soldier you ain't ready for war
R.O.C. too strong for y'all
It's like bringin a knife to a gunfight, pen to a test
Your chest in the line of fire witcha thin-ass vest
You bringin them Boyz II Men, HOW them boys gon' win?
This is grown man B.I., get you rolled in the triage(?)
Beatch - your reach ain't long enough, dunny
Your peeps ain't strong enough, fucka
Roc-A-Fella is the army, better yet the navy
Niggaz'll kidnap your babies, spit at your lady
We bring - knife to fistfight, kill your drama
Uh, we kill you motherf**kin ants with a sledgehammer
Don't let me do it to you dunny cause I overdo it
So you won't confuse it with just rap music

rocafella is the army, better yet the navy... compared to ethers first verses, id say ether > takeover

how about the last verses, you kindly put up the last verses of ether, while only putting up the meat of takeover

A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
So stop with that childish sh*t, nigga I'm grown
Please leave it alone - don't throw rocks at the throne
Do not bark up that tree, that tree will fall on you
I don't know why your advisors ain't forewarn you
Please, not Jay, he's, not for play
I don't slack a minute, all that thug rappin and gimmicks
I will end it, all that yappin be finished
You are not deep, you made your bed now sleep
Don't make me expose to them folks that don't know you
Nigga I know you well, all the stolen jew-els
Twinkletoes you breakin my heart
You can't f*ck with me - go play somewhere, I'm busy
And all you other cats throwin shots at Jigga
You only get half a bar - f*ck y'all niggaz

i dont even to write comments on that verse... but im willing to say, nas won the battle (ether vs takeover) but jay won the war. i got love for both rappers none the less

[rainnydaiis]

eminem and tupac are the greatest rappers =P

[*lolita kitty*]

hmm..
i like chingy
or ludacris
im a hip hop/rap FREAK

[F1R3B4T]

1) EMIN3M
2) Ludacris
3) Pac
4) 50 Cent

and i dont understand why u ppl hafta act all surprised wehn someone voted for 50 cent i mean one, its completely on our own opinions, and 2, hes not too bad for a rapper i mean In Da Club, PIMP, Realest N*gga +++more they is damn h0t

and chingy dAMn i still haf "right thurr" in my head thats damn kwazII

[WTFwasIthinking]

Rockefeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after? that was dope

that wasnt dope that was a lie... rockafella wasn't even alive when AIDS was discovered, that was 50+ yrs past his time...

and the i rock hoes yall rock fellas that was dope... im beginning to think you dont even know that much about rap and you just makin sh*t up

I rock hoes, ya'll rock fellas is dope?!!??!?! AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HIP HOP!??!?!! LMAO, CAN YOU HONESTLY SAY YOU LISTEN TO ANY OF THE MC'S I LISTED AND SAY THAT'S A DOPE LINE?!!?!??! THAT sh*t'S SO SO SO BASIC ... sh*t'S CHEESY AS f*ck...

THERE ISN'T EVEN WORDPLAY THROUGH MEANING OR PHRASE... HE JUST THOUGHT HE WAS BEIN' CLEVER BY SWITHIN' A WORD... THAT'S SO CORNY... ARE YOU f**kin' SERIOUS...

AND OF COURSE I DON'T KNOW HIP HOP BUT I'VE EXPLAINED SO MUCH sh*t ABOUT IT AND NAMED OUT ALL THESE CATS THAT NOT MANY KNOW IN THE "MAINSTREAM" WORLD...

YOU'RE HONESTLY A MORON IF YOU BELIEVE THAT BULLSH*T... LMAO

if I don't know sh*t about rap or emceeing and you do, gimme a example of complex rhyme structure and explain what type of bar structure that is.... go ahead... show me the highest amount of connected syllables you've ever seen rhymed in a margin of two bars.... seriously, YOU DON'T KNOW sh*t!

ok sorry for double posting the edit button is f*cked up for me so anyways you obviously didnt read my last post about the facts of ether if you are too lazy to read the whole thing read the last part. but ill post it here again.

while i was reading through your fairly accurate but biased review of ether and takeover, i noticed you didnt have any comments about this part of the song

milin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearin Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a p*ssy, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class

now read this - like for instance ether was all true except for Jay age,Jaz o told nas all that info.remeber when nas said hanging with little chase,well chase is a short cat from marcy who Jay used to follow around back in the days. Jaz O told alot of dirt on hov that nas did not even use but you notice how nas mentioned Jaz names 4 seperate times in the song?

also you didnt mention this part of the song either.

Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick

well, in case you didnt know, the rocafella records was just sold (reportadely). im not saying nas had anyhing to do with it, but it came true in the end didnt it?
and you talking about how lloyd banks has better punchlines and sh*t but being a good/great battle rapper does not make you a good rapper period. i mean, look at cassidy. he can kill anyone in a battle but youre not gonna mistake him for a good rapper are you? or jin. he is ill when battling but his songs have been wack lately (except hands off thats pretty hot).

i aint saying battle artists cant be good rappers (elliot ness) but im sayin you dont hafta be a good battle rapepr to be a good rapper. nas doesnt even battle.

anyways, back to takeover. you didnt post the whole song! you post the whole "ether" which you classified as half fillers. how about you and i listen to takeover.

I don't care if you Mobb Deep, I hold triggers to crews
You little f*ck, I've got money stacks bigger than you
When I was pushin weight, back in eighty-eight
you was a ballerina I got your pictures I seen ya
Then you dropped "Shook Ones," switch your demeanor
Well - we don't believe you, you need more people
Roc-A-Fella, students of the game, we passed the classes
Nobody could read you dudes like we do
Don't let 'em gas you like Jigga is ass and won't clap you
Trust me on this one - I'll detach you
Mind from spirit, body from soul
They'll have to hold a mass, put your body in a hole
No, you're not on my level get your brakes tweaked
I sold what ya whole album sold in my first week
You guys don't want it with Hov'
Ask Nas, he don't want it with Hov', nooooo!

hmm... that was pretty wack wasnt it... but the "we don't believe you you need more people" always makes me laugh. previous verse please

The takeover, the break's over nigga
God MC, me, Jay-Hova
Hey lil' soldier you ain't ready for war
R.O.C. too strong for y'all
It's like bringin a knife to a gunfight, pen to a test
Your chest in the line of fire witcha thin-ass vest
You bringin them Boyz II Men, HOW them boys gon' win?
This is grown man B.I., get you rolled in the triage(?)
Beatch - your reach ain't long enough, dunny
Your peeps ain't strong enough, fucka
Roc-A-Fella is the army, better yet the navy
Niggaz'll kidnap your babies, spit at your lady
We bring - knife to fistfight, kill your drama
Uh, we kill you motherf**kin ants with a sledgehammer
Don't let me do it to you dunny cause I overdo it
So you won't confuse it with just rap music

rocafella is the army, better yet the navy... compared to ethers first verses, id say ether > takeover

how about the last verses, you kindly put up the last verses of ether, while only putting up the meat of takeover

A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
So stop with that childish sh*t, nigga I'm grown
Please leave it alone - don't throw rocks at the throne
Do not bark up that tree, that tree will fall on you
I don't know why your advisors ain't forewarn you
Please, not Jay, he's, not for play
I don't slack a minute, all that thug rappin and gimmicks
I will end it, all that yappin be finished
You are not deep, you made your bed now sleep
Don't make me expose to them folks that don't know you
Nigga I know you well, all the stolen jew-els
Twinkletoes you breakin my heart
You can't f*ck with me - go play somewhere, I'm busy
And all you other cats throwin shots at Jigga
You only get half a bar - f*ck y'all niggaz

i dont even to write comments on that verse... but im willing to say, nas won the battle (ether vs takeover) but jay won the war. i got love for both rappers none the less

you keep contradicting yourself so you keep making yourself look like a moron... I don't know hip hop but I know all that sh*t about MCing and hip hop and rappers 'n songs from our history and history of rappers careers 'n sh*t.... you still haven't posted a response to Eminem sitting right next to Nas at the Hip Hop Summit in Detroit last year... c'mon, seriously, once again, GET SMART....

and as for the karate class sh*t... it was all fillers and then he tried to throw in a personal but that was a lie... Jay-Z ain't in a karate class nor takes tai bo.... he takes boxing lessons... once again, another lie/attempt at a diss

and you try to diss that verse from Takeover but are you serious!?!?! we're judging a battle between Nas and Jay-z... you can't even judge a battle based on that verse cuz that wasn't towards Nas at all... it was towards Prodigy and he just threw in Nas's name at the end in order for 'em to setup the next verse....

AND DUMMY, EVEN THAT OTHER VERSE YOU POSTED... THAT'S NOT EVEN A BATTLE AGAINST NAS... IT WAS THAT ONE VERSE AT THE END THAT WAS COMPLETELY INTENDED AT NAS.... THAT'S LIKE COMPARING A SONG THAT WAS COMPLETELY AIMED AT AN ARTIST TO A GENERIC VERSE OF THE PERSON AIMED AT THAT JUST TALKS ABOUT: "DON'T F*CK WITH ME"...

you're seriously retarded for bringin' the other two verses into it... I only judged the disses at each other.... how you gonna judge the part where he's dissin' a completely different rapper while judging a battle between Nas and Jay-Z... LMAO

and you tell me I don't know what i'm talkin' about... c'mon kid

once again, even the last verse wasn't a diss at Nas directly... it was basically tellin' everyone who didn't like 'em to f*ck off... if you're judging a battle, you gotta judge when they're goin' at each other... your ignorant ass basically did somethin' like goin' to a battle and judging a battle between two cats by judging MC (A)'s verse against another battle he had in the tournament against MC (B)'s verse against MC A... that's just straight up dumb sh*t... c'mon, you can't be that ignorant can you????

[pbear]

I think Kanye West is one of the best rappers out there.
I don't know if he's the best though.

[LiLEthiopian]

umm..Nas, Jay-z at times....[lmao..'gay-z and c*ckafella]--hehe..when i heard that..i couldn't stop laughing..but Jay-z is cool..

[*basick*]

ok doggie i already responded to the nas and em subject, i said nas dissed em on HOT 97 which was true and they might have smoothend things out or something the way nas and puffy smoothed things out. (remember the puff diss on the lost tapes).

nas aint even the GOAT i ain't saying anyone is the GOAT i just say that you dont give nas enough credit.

i feel both nas and jay (no homo lol) and they both hot sometimes and complete garbage other times you know? and like common says

"There's so many thrones, why we argue who is the king?"

ok i aint even going to say anything elseto you cause we obviously believe diffent and thats cool and ill but ill do me and youll do you alright? this was a gay topic BTW, created by some fool that doesnt even know anything about rap. and all you guys who said 50 or chingy or luda was the GOAT, you need to be slapped.

and one more thing , F1R3B4T you need to listen to some real rap alright? ok im out

[gerundio]

Wow, Kanye is a horrible lyricist. His beats are good, but his lyrics suck. I can't believe so many people like him. His album is sooooo played out.

And if you think 50, Nelly, and friends and faggots are the best rappers ever don't even post please.

I'd have to say the best rapper today is:

Talib Kweli.

Whoever said Chingy should die.

[rainnydaiis]

dude Llloyd banks is tyte =P

[LiLEthiopian]

Wow, Kanye is a horrible lyricist. His beats are good, but his lyrics suck. I can't believe so many people like him. His album is sooooo played out.

And if you think 50, Nelly, and friends and faggots are the best rappers ever don't even post please.

I'd have to say the best rapper today is:

Talib Kweli.

Whoever said Chingy should die.

omg..i used to think the sameway about kanye..but so many ppl around me LOVED him...so it kinda grows on u..

but i agree..i don't really like 50 Cent..[who cares if u got shot nine times??..shut the hell up before u get popped again.. ]--lol

and nelly..never really liked him..EVER..but then again i knew the words to his songs..heh

and Chingy...don't really concider him a rapper..he's just..there..XD

[pnoy_illuzion]

i would have to say Thai, a vietnamese rapper from P.O.(Portland, Oregon). hes basicly a asian version of 2pac

[vivieeeen]

If I said "Jin".. would i get beaten up?

[patrick004]

i would have to say Thai, a vietnamese rapper from P.O.(Portland, Oregon). hes basicly a asian version of 2pac

I heard of him, he sucks lyrically but his flow is quick and is almost as good as a Bone Thug.

[gerundio]

dude Llloyd banks is tyte =P

Are you serious? He's horrible.

[*basick*]

If I said "Jin".. would i get beaten up?

jin is alright, but lately it seems that his freestyles are better then his singles... hands off was a hot track tho

omg..i used to think the sameway about kanye..but so many ppl around me LOVED him...so it kinda grows on u..

personally i think kanyes lyrics are simplistic but they good cause its different from all this other trash on the radio. he has lots of quotables

[xquizit]

personally i think kanyes lyrics are simplistic but they good cause its different from all this other trash on the radio. he has lots of quotables

yeah, lyrically and flow wise, kanye skills are limited... especially when you compare him to the likes of Mos Def, Common, or Talib Kweli. But at least his music has meaning which is what separates him from the other mainstream rappers out now.

[Tru3pinoy]

Ofcourse my favorite rapper of all time is tupac ^_^

[highly_evolved]

eek ban ol. hes not that famous but he raps like a mad man

[KrAzi3piNoY]

i think mine would be pdiddy i like the way he did his rappin and stuff

[SystemDamaged]

Eminem for sure

[MasterNe0]

Eminem I guess. I don't listen to rap these days anymore.

[nyctophiliac]

none of them
i hate rap