911 Pentagon Conspiracy?? Options

[stryker76]

After thinking about the attacks on 9/11...i started thinking bout the attracks on the Pentagon in particular. The one thing that really stuck out yo me was the fact that there was no plane that i saw at the Pentagon.....so i looked around and found a lot of things that show that there was no plane that hit the Pentagon...but it may have possible been a missile attack....which is kinda freaky. but if you look at the evidents there is nothing showing that a plane hit the building....

Here are some sites to visit to read up on it:
Pentagon: Hunt for the Boeing

KillSomeTime.com Flash Video

[TheSilenceInDict...]

I've seen the flash clip, and it's one of my favorites. My friend actually helped make it.

It really makes you think...Whenever 9/11 is mentioned, we're only reminded of the Twin Towers. Hell, I forgot that the Pentagon was hit as well. It could very well be the reason why so much attention is diverted from what happened. If there are missles that have hit us, then we're in a world of trouble.

[stryker76]

How do you kno that the missile isnt ours......and the pentagon is only used as fuel to get us to go to war???

[TheSilenceInDict...]

Wow, I never actually thought about that.

If that's the case, then there're some sick f*cks up there in the govt. I don't know, what matters is that we did get our asses into a war...and look how much of a success that's turned out to be.

[*kryogenix*]

After thinking about the attacks on 9/11...i started thinking bout the attracks on the Pentagon in particular. The one thing that really stuck out yo me was the fact that there was no plane that i saw at the Pentagon.....so i looked around and found a lot of things that show that there was no plane that hit the Pentagon...but it may have possible been a missile attack....which is kinda freaky. but if you look at the evidents there is nothing showing that a plane hit the building....

Here are some sites to visit to read up on it:
Pentagon: Hunt for the Boeing

KillSomeTime.com Flash Video

a plane didn't hit the pentagon. it hit the ground in front of it, and the explosion damaged the pentagon. don't say there was never a plane. eyewitnesses say their car radio antennae were snapped off by the incoming plane. you must have forgotten that.

[stryker76]

Plane crashs leave wreckage.....where is the plane parts????

Planes crashs mess up the gound.......you can play golf on the pentagon lawn. did they fix it that fast?????

for the plane to have snapped antenna's off from cars it would have had to been flying at about 6ft or less off the ground goin at least 250 mph to stay air born....and that is only at landing or take off.....600 mph cruising speed at those speeds the jet wash would have blown cars off I-395 from Virginia to Wash. DC.....i find it interesting that there is no ground damage....no plane parts, no wings, no tail, no nothing....look at the links above and look at the evidents.

[dfly112]

i think its bs... the government is lying to us. i bet they started the whole 9/11 thing... we're in Iraq rite now for the oil and $$. and we've lost many lives... bush gives a rat's ass bout them...

[stryker76]

for the plane to be flying that low the jet wash would blow the cars off the road.....the jet wash is strong enough to propel a 60-80 ton plane 250-600 mph that is a lot of thrust.....y didnt those cars get blown away????? are cares really that heavy???

[Heathasm]

a plane didn't hit the pentagon. it hit the ground in front of it, and the explosion damaged the pentagon. don't say there was never a plane. eyewitnesses say their car radio antennae were snapped off by the incoming plane. you must have forgotten that.

yes.

There was a plane, dumbasses. and later i will post the site that has evidence that all the sites posted ^ above are fake and just trying to cause a conspiracy

[*kryogenix*]

yes.

There was a plane, dumbasses.

lol, that was a bit blunt :)

[stryker76]

As soon as someone shows me proof of a plane being there ill believe it hit until then....i have to believe that the Pentagon was hit by a missile....its not that far out there are government does a lot of screwed up sh*t....so y wouldnt they launch a missile at there own building?

[frenchie641]

yea i do think there is something up i mena how is it the pentagon the most guarded place ever has less cameras on it then the world trade centers? not to mention we attacked afganistan first and the people were saudi arabians...and the taliban was in control of the largest un claimed oil reserve ever the caspian sea..i dont doubt that the us's oil prices will be dropping soon..closer to the election so bush can try adn get some more votes....

[Heathasm]

As soon as someone shows me proof of a plane being there ill believe it hit until then....i have to believe that the Pentagon was hit by a missile....its not that far out there are government does a lot of screwed up sh*t....so y wouldnt they launch a missile at there own building?

http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
but im sure the government sprinkled little bits of plane every where just to make it LOOK like it was there.....any way, just for a piece of logic, how do you explain 4th plane and the passengers missing if it didnt hit the pentagon?

this isnt the site i had before...but there is plenty of proof there...read it all

[stryker76]

Still there are no burn marks or nething its easy to place something and take a picture of it.....i still see no proof of a plane hitting the building or grounds in front of the biulding....

[hi-C]

Does it matter if it was a conspiracy or not? People DIED and you're treating it as some sort of side show, a carnival game. "Hunt for the Boeing," are you serious?

And the site you posted twists words around into the context that the designers want in order to prove their extremely far-fetched theory.

PS - I'm from Maryland (right outside DC) and my mom works near Arlington. Her co-workers saw the plane. There was no missile or bomb.

[*kryogenix*]

Still there are no burn marks or nething its easy to place something and take a picture of it.....i still see no proof of a plane hitting the building or grounds in front of the biulding....

http://www.house.gov/berkley/legis/otr/pre...elief_plane.jpg

dude. just because you don't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. i can't see your brain, so it must have none. instead, i have made a conspiracy that because there are some messed up people, you have smelly cheese inside your head. sorry to be offensive, it's just that i hate these stupid conspiracies.

the reason why you didn't see the plane hitting the building was that IT CAUGHT US BY FRIGGIN SURPISE. i think the video of the first tower getting hit did not include the plane, does that mean it was hit by a missile?

If they did place those parts there, we would have seen it on tv. There were dozens of cameras focusing on the pentagon by then.

[PinkTrash]

Why would they keep it from the public thoe :/

[stryker76]

The fact that you people can stand so solidly by your government with questioning them shows that your easily programmed. I want to see pictures of the entire plane not just one lil piece here or there. i want to kno exactly y the ground was un damaged....i want to kno y there is a perfect hole in the walls of section C planes dont do that.....i want to kno the names of all the people that where aboard the plane that "hit" the pentagon....i have never seen ne of that....until i do....i still say there was no plane.

[Heathasm]

The fact that you people can stand so solidly by your government with questioning them shows that your easily programmed. I want to see pictures of the entire plane not just one lil piece here or there. i want to kno exactly y the ground was un damaged....i want to kno y there is a perfect hole in the walls of section C planes dont do that.....i want to kno the names of all the people that where aboard the plane that "hit" the pentagon....i have never seen ne of that....until i do....i still say there was no plane.

the fact that you can stand more solidly by edited internet animations and theories from france shows that you are naive and gullible

youre not going to see a whole picture of the plane

The fire chief wasn't asked "where the aircraft was"; he was asked "Is there anything left of the aircraft at all?" He did indeed provide an answer to the question he was asked: There were no large sections of the plane left by the time he was asked (the day after the attack) because they had been smashed into smaller pieces by the impact and then burned up; all that remained were smaller pieces visible only from the interior of the Pentagon.

the hole..

On the inside wall of the second ring of the Pentagon, a nearly circular hole, about 12-feet wide, allows light to pour into the building from an internal service alley. An aircraft engine punched the hole out on its last flight after being broken loose from its moorings on the plane. The result became a huge vent for the subsequent explosion and fire. Signs of fire and black smoke now ring the outside of the jagged-edged hole.

the ground...

The Boeing 757 crashed into the outer edge of the building between the first and second floors, "at full power," Mr. Rumsfeld said. It penetrated three of the five concentric rings of the building.

pictures are nearly impossible to get like some one else said "it caught us by surprise" remodeling started immediately after, none of this was planned

[Mr. Psychotic]

Do you believe in aliens? Do you believe in God?

i believe in aliens. i don't believe in god though.

[*kryogenix*]

i believe in aliens. i don't believe in god though.

aggh forget i posted that.

[stryker76]

i want the source of those....and i have never seen any names of people that where on that plane....just those in the building......and y believe Rumsfield...he is government....he was part of it for all we kno...

[*kryogenix*]

i want the source of those....and i have never seen any names of people that where on that plane....just those in the building......and y believe Rumsfield...he is government....he was part of it for all we kno...

your claims are baseless. why are you advancing a theory that has no evidence to back it up.

[sadolakced acid]

a plane cannot punch a clean hole through a building.

i remeber seeing the idmediate pictures. i remeber hearing "a helicoptor, or a small plane"

i rember fire at the washington mall- that only happens with a big explosion.

the twin towers didn't explode. they burned.

aluminum planes don't explode. they burn very , very quickly.

whatever was at the pentagon, it exploded.

whatever was at the WTC, that burned.

planes for both?

the only problem is, where's the plane?

4 planes dissapeared that day. where'd it go?

[Heathasm]

a plane cannot punch a clean hole through a building. 

i remeber seeing the idmediate pictures.  i remeber hearing "a helicoptor, or a small plane"

i rember fire at the washington mall- that only happens with a big explosion. 

the twin towers didn't explode. they burned.

aluminum planes don't explode.  they burn very , very quickly. 

whatever was at the pentagon, it exploded. 

whatever was at the WTC, that burned. 

planes for both?

the only problem is, where's the plane? 

4 planes dissapeared that day.  where'd it go?

.............you are way behind
and of course an airplane is going to explode, it's not just a hunk of metal, there is fuel and heat as well
the impacts both reacted different because they were two different buildings, the pentagon being more protected.
plus, when i saw the planes hit on the news at the towers it looked like an explosion, then it burned, which is exactly what happened at the pentagon

i want the source of those....and i have never seen any names of people that where on that plane....just those in the building......and y believe Rumsfield...he is government....he was part of it for all we kno...

i told you to read through that whole site, that's the the source of every thing i posted
i've never seen the names of the people on any of the planes...you seem desperate to believe this is a government conspiracy, but it just isn't...........

[*krnxswat*]

Why would they keep it from the public thoe :/

They keep aloooooooooot of things from the public. Far more than we can ever imagine.

[stryker76]

i told you to read through that whole site, that's the the source of every thing i posted
i've never seen the names of the people on any of the planes...you seem desperate to believe this is a government conspiracy, but it just isn't...........

Umm yeah they released the names of all those killed on 9/11 but i never once saw the names of people killed on the plane that flew into the pentagon...i found the names of those that where aboard the planes that hit the towers and i found names of those on the plane that crashed in pennsylvania....but still no names of people from the pentagon's "plane" there wasnt one.....stop believing everything the government tells you because +60% is lies or twisted words to manipluate people into feeling patriotic so that the government can do what they wants and take away our rights so that they can gain more power. Why is it so hard to believe that our government attacked them selfs....for what reason who knows, it could be nething push reasons to invade other countries, prevent an information leak, despose of high risk personel.....there are tons of reasons....but yet so many people in this country think oh our government loves us and is to help us.....that is BS....they want only for them selves we are nothing but pawns in there lil game.

[*kryogenix*]

http://paulboutin.weblogger.com/2002/03/14

Debunked.

If you still believe in that stupid conspiracy, then I don't know what to say, other than you're either pretty gullible or foolish.

[stryker76]

Patrick: Watch the videotapes of the planes hitting the World Trade Center. They were traveling at approximately 400 mph, and they hit an aluminum and glass building. An entire plane went in, and hardly anything came out the other side, 208 feet away.

Here we have a plane traveling at nearly 250 mph (just over 1/2 the velocity of the WTC planes, meaning just over 1/4 of their kinetic energy), hitting the ground (which would absorb much of that energy), and only then sliding at a much slower speed into a steel-and-kevlar-reinforced concrete and brick building. Obviously, it's not going to go very far. Still, parts of the plane penetrated into the C ring.

Still i see no ground damage.....

The site makes good points but i still see no damage done to the ground by the plane. if it slid into the building then why didnt it damage the ground.

Oh and i still havent found any names

[*kryogenix*]

Still i see no ground damage.....

The site makes good points but i still see no damage done to the ground by the plane. if it slid into the building then why didnt it damage the ground.

Oh and i still havent found any names

Ground damage:





Explosion.

Names of dead crew in Flight 77:

http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2001/0.../story23539.asp

Another list.

http://www.boston.com/news/packages/sept11...ms/flight77.htm

There you go. Now cry because you believed in a stupid conspiracy theory, and I was able to crush it with a few simple google searches. Use some common sense man.

[sadolakced acid]

planes don't explode

that's just some rubbish they tell you.

what's in planes that's flammable: A1 aviation fuel, aluminium, paints, flammable fabrics.

A1 aviation fuel is hard to explode. it's made to combust. you have to have the right mix of vaporized fuel and air. what you have in the wings is a liquid. that burns.

aluminium. it's a metal. give it oxygen and get it hot, and it will burn. very fast. problem: oxygen. the A-1 aviation fuel fire is using up all the oxygen.

paints: not that much in planes. but still some. it explodes if in a metal can, but only if.

fabrics: burn only. don't explode.


now you may be fooled by the engines. the engines are activley combusting., they will blow up ( not fireball, blow apart) and light the gas on fire, creating a small fireball then a sustained flame.


planes DO NOT EXPLODE. the BURN.


and planes don't punch a clean hole. they have wings. check pictures of the pentagon, then WTC. planes are shaped the same. the holes are not.


kryogenix:

that's not ground damage. that's rubble the pulled aside. you can tell because those people are sitting on a bulldozer. if that were ground damage, they'd be sitting in a hole.



yet where did the plane go? where did it go?

[stryker76]

Most of the names on that list where of people in side the building at the biulding at the time. My mom lost a friend that was in the pentagon....all notice that many of the people on the list worked as engineers of some form or another. I think its a hoax and our government is messed up and sick....y is it so hard for people to accept that our own government may have attacked it self....why is it so hard for people to accept that maybe the people in government only care about money....Dick Chaney(sp) runs our country thats why his company is rebuilding our country....nothing but money hungry old dirt bags that wont be alive to enjoy it.....some country lets send there kids to die in war....yeah like that would happen.....there dad's get them out of it.....F*CK this country America sucks....Democracy does too....did you know canada is socialist.....like Communist countries.....damn its a lot better up there then here.

[*kryogenix*]

Most of the names on that list where of people in side the building at the biulding at the time. My mom lost a friend that was in the pentagon....all notice that many of the people on the list worked as engineers of some form or another. I think its a hoax and our government is messed up and sick....y is it so hard for people to accept that our own government may have attacked it self....why is it so hard for people to accept that maybe the people in government only care about money....Dick Chaney(sp) runs our country thats why his company is rebuilding our country....nothing but money hungry old dirt bags that wont be alive to enjoy it.....some country lets send there kids to die in war....yeah like that would happen.....there dad's get them out of it.....F*CK this country America sucks....Democracy does too....did you know canada is socialist.....like Communist countries.....damn its a lot better up there then here.

Fine. Believe your deranged conspiracy theory. Keep hating the US. Move away from here, and go to Canada. Just don't spread your lies. We don't need people like you.

[stryker76]

for each lie i have ever told the government has told us thousands more...and your ok with it....there was no plane...y is it so hard for you to grasp.

[*kryogenix*]

for each lie i have ever told the government has told us thousands more...and your ok with it....there was no plane...y is it so hard for you to grasp.

THERE WAS A PLANE! Why is it so hard for you to grasp? Even with overwhelming evidence that supports my view, you still don't get it? And you just acknowledged that you lied, good job. And ommission isn't lying.

[sadolakced acid]

it was not a plane that caused what you saw at the pentagon.

sure, a plane might have been involved, but a plane did not crash into the pentagon and cause the explosion.

[Heathasm]

this is how cults start

[stryker76]

Umm i never once said i lied about the government cover up.....i was making a comparison....but if you want to be liberal bout everything people say then so be it i dont care....go vote for some shit that will take more of our hard earn money from us and shut up....it aint my fault you love the messed up government.

[sammi rules you]

Most of the names on that list where of people in side the building at the biulding at the time. My mom lost a friend that was in the pentagon....all notice that many of the people on the list worked as engineers of some form or another. I think its a hoax and our government is messed up and sick....y is it so hard for people to accept that our own government may have attacked it self....why is it so hard for people to accept that maybe the people in government only care about money....d*ck Chaney(sp) runs our country thats why his company is rebuilding our country....nothing but money hungry old dirt bags that wont be alive to enjoy it.....some country lets send there kids to die in war....yeah like that would happen.....there dad's get them out of it.....F*CK this country America sucks....Democracy does too....did you know canada is socialist.....like Communist countries.....damn its a lot better up there then here.

why is it so hard for you to accept that a plane hit the pentagon?

d i c k (it bleeps his name) cheney. if you can't even spell his name, don't talk crap about him.