Are we history?, self-explanitory Options

[Saeglopur]

This question was raised in History class today.

Are we history?

If yes, then why?
If no, then why not?

[*CrackedRearView*]

This second is history. And this one. And this one.

Yes, our history gains a second everytime the clock ticks.

[inlonelinessidie]

^^ Yup. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Saeglopur]

This second is history. And this one. And this one.

Yes, our history gains a second everytime the clock ticks.

Yes but if people were to look back, would ordinary people like us be history? or would people who are outstanding be history?

Would people like me and you be history? or Would people like let's say George Bush be history?

[inlonelinessidie]

Yes but if people were to look back, would ordinary people like us be history? or would people who are outstanding be history?

Would people like me and you be history? or Would people like let's say George Bush be history?

Both. Why should we "ordinary" people be excluded. We've lived it too. Just because we aren't in the public eye shouldn't make us of no lesser value. People that we know and see everyday can remember us. Thus we are history also.

[ohBrian]

but our time was MADE up

[*jeanna*]

well i know we are because of 9/11. im sure one day when i have kids and it asks where was i when it happened i would know. same thing when i asked where my mom was when president kenn. got shot.

[patrick004]

I've had a similar topic like this in my US History class.

This is how I perceive things.

History and the past are two different things. History are things that have happened in the past that will control or change how things will happen in the future.

Oh, I scratch my arm 5 seconds ago. That's not history. Eli Whitney introduced to us the idea of interchangeable parts. That's history. Nowadays, a lot of things are made with interchangeable parts like computers and cars.

History also has to be something of importance. Something might not be important to you but may be to somebody else. For example, a soldier writes an account about his life in Iraq. It might not be important to us but years from now, somebody will find it and it will be of interest to them. And that's how we get our history.

I hope that was a good answer for you.

[Saeglopur]

I've had a similar topic like this in my US History class.

This is how I perceive things.

History and the past are two different things. History are things that have happened in the past that will control or change how things will happen in the future.

Oh, I scratch my arm 5 seconds ago. That's not history. Eli Whitney introduced to us the idea of interchangeable parts. That's history. Nowadays, a lot of things are made with interchangeable parts like computers and cars.

History also has to be something of importance. Something might not be important to you but may be to somebody else. For example, a soldier writes an account about his life in Iraw. It might not be important to us but years from now, somebody will find it and it will be of interest to them. And that's how we get our history.

I hope that was a good answer for you.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm looking for.. but also, we are history.

Some of us impact many lives. Wouldn't we be history? Like probably, when we work, it will impact many other people. But really, how do we know if we are history, if we don't know what history means?

[sikdragon]

We are history if we benifit the history writers.

[KaRaoKe_sLut]

History can be applied in a wide variety of ways. If we are talking about the history of the world and what will actually show up in the school books some might argue that we are not history b.c none of our specific names or events of our lives may be there. Personally I believe that we are history. What we do with our lives will impact others and history itself. Think about statistics and how they are recorded. They do polls for a variety of reasons [ex. teen pregnancy, drug use, drop out rate, etc.] They may not list each person's name, BUT the answers they provide definitely add to the bigger picture. Kind of like a domino effect. It starts out with small numbres that turn into a huge statistic that can represent a time period or specific place... and those statistics include everyday people.

You can also apply history towards one persons life... And I'm not talking like Dr. Martin Luther King or Eleanor Roosevelt... For instance, the events that take place in my life may never reach a history book... but that doesn't mean that they don't have an effect or a record like the history of our world. Simply put all history is... is a recording of an event... whether or not it becomes public or well known makes no difference. How it impacts you personally is another thing. So are we history... yes we are.

Did that make sense? I hope it did.

[Sumiaki]

We are history. I could write this whole big huge thing to explain why but I'll keep it short since I'm lazy.

I learned this from American Studies.

You represent American Culture. Every culture has values. Values often disagree. Disagreement leads to change. Change is history.

[Saeglopur]

Yes, but not all history has something to do with the American Culture.

[Sumiaki]

Yes, but not all history has something to do with the American Culture.

It was an example.

[melface]

Time is an illusion.. it's all in your head.

[smile4me]

yepyep! *nods vigorously*

time is relative, though...

[nyctophiliac]

everything is history lol every second something new happens [/opinion]

[PinkTrash]

Yeah i agree too, doesnt have to be something significant that happened, anything in the past= history..

[F1R3B4T]

mayans predicted teh end of the world is 2008.

[gigiopolis]

History and the past are two different things. History are things that have happened in the past that will control or change how things will happen in the future.

Oh, I scratch my arm 5 seconds ago. That's not history.

Heeeeyyy...not so fast. You think that scratch will not affect the future. Think again.

You're waiting for the street light to change. As you're waiting, you look at your scratch, which has still been hurting since the day you scratched it. You can hear the light change, so you cross the street, still looking at your invisible, hurting scar. Suddenly you feel a strong wind...it's like car is headed straight for you...and there is. In 5 seconds you're dead.

Now does that scratch change your future?

I don't exactly know what you are asking when you're saying "Are we history?" The dictionary definition of history is events that have happened and have been recorded down. Therefore, your journal could be history. I just think that every single thing we do is history, every single action leads to something that can change our future, it's just a matter of sorting out what's important history and what's not so important.

[*thesweetescape*]

Of course we are part of history. That's exactly what we are, part of history. Some of us have a bigger part than the rest but when you look back on the past civilization as a whole, you are part of that whole. History also depends upon the person living it and how they relay it to the future. We learned in AP US History class that Captain Smith (an early American settler, that you may remember from Pocohantas) wrote a book of his amazing voyages to many lands but the reader has to completely put him or herself in the writer's hands and believe them. You can change the course of history just because you wrote something down wrong, exaggerated, or didn't record it all. In answer to your question, of course we are history. We all are and, just because in 100 years people won't know your name, doesn't mean that you didn't contribute.

[*CrackedRearView*]

Yes but if people were to look back, would ordinary people like us be history? or would people who are outstanding be history?

Would people like me and you be history? or Would people like let's say George Bush be history?

Okay I get what you're saying.

We are history, but not as singled out as Bush may be...

We're recognized as a generation.

[patrick004]

mayans predicted teh end of the world is 2008.

You mean 2012?

[patrick004]

Heeeeyyy...not so fast. You think that scratch will not affect the future. Think again.

You're waiting for the street light to change. As you're waiting, you look at your scratch, which has still been hurting since the day you scratched it. You can hear the light change, so you cross the street, still looking at your invisible, hurting scar. Suddenly you feel a strong wind...it's like car is headed straight for you...and there is. In 5 seconds you're dead.

Now does that scratch change your future?

I don't exactly know what you are asking when you're saying "Are we history?" The dictionary definition of history is events that have happened and have been recorded down. Therefore, your journal could be history. I just think that every single thing we do is history, every single action leads to something that can change our future, it's just a matter of sorting out what's important history and what's not so important.

Ummm....no. And we're not playing an IF scenario game.

LOL, I only said scratching my arm. You want me to be more detailed? Alright. I simply scratched my arm, there's no itch. It didn't leave any scar and it didn't hurt. Matter of fact, I only lost a couple of cells.There, happy?

Getting ran over by a car, makes YOU history! MUAHAHAHAHA!

[conster]

i think each minute that passed by is history cuz it happened already, but wil ppl remember what happened the last minute that passed? or yesterday? lol it all depends on the person i guess, but i think everyminute that passed is history

[glow]

i guess dere a few views of history....to me...my friends are part of my history cuz they hlped me to be who i'm, so has cb,xanga etc...

never fink i'll b part of the Great Achiving histories through...

yah..this is confusing..i know

[gigiopolis]

Ummm....no. And we're not playing an IF scenario game.

LOL, I only said scratching my arm. You want me to be more detailed? Alright. I simply scratched my arm, there's no itch. It didn't leave any scar and it didn't hurt. Matter of fact, I only lost a couple of cells.There, happy?

Getting ran over by a car, makes YOU history! MUAHAHAHAHA!

Yes, yes I was just poking fun at you. =))


But I still think that every thing we do, every person is a part of history.

[Spirited Away]

I have a history because I have memory of it and I acknowledge the fact that certain events did happened to me. Society has a history because someone remembered it/wrote it down in a book/kept records of it. The Earth has a history and we're discovering more of its history as we discover new technology to impliment them for that purpose.

IMO, history and the past are the same so long as someone kept records of the events that happened either by memory or writing.

[WhiteLotus*]

I think we are. Even though some of the things we might do may not be written down in a history book.

When people from 25 years from now read our xangas, it might be considered history though.

I dunno. I am weird and don't make much sense.

[patrick004]

Yes, yes I was just poking fun at you. =))


But I still think that every thing we do, every person is a part of history.

I gotcha

[espionage]

Whoa, lotus has a weird point.

What if the internet was regarded as history? Would our xangas be journals of past people?
Scary.

[gigiopolis]

Whoa, lotus has a weird point.

What if the internet was regarded as history? Would our xangas be journals of past people?
Scary.

It could very well...maybe some horrible thing happens in the future and all history is wiped off EXCEPT FOR THE XANGA SITE...and people go back to see what others wrote about events that happened to them firsthand.

If that's even possible...I dunno...=S But you can't always trust stuff from the internet, let alone from a personal blog site where you can write absolute crap if you wanted to.

[sikdragon]

If the records were kept we would be history but not studied history.

If you don't do things great in the eyes of the mass majority or the extremely wealthy you are not important.

[patrick004]

Whoa, lotus has a weird point.

What if the internet was regarded as history? Would our xangas be journals of past people? 
Scary.

History also has to be something of importance. Something might not be important to you but may be to somebody else. For example, a soldier writes an account about his life in Iraq. It might not be important to us but years from now, somebody will find it and it will be of interest to them.

Historal accounts....and I don't know why you'd find it scary.

[espionage]

I think it scary, because this would be the first time that future people will have access to billions of historical sources.

...If Xanga and the internet survives.

[WhiteLotus*]

I think it scary, because this would be the first time that future people will have access to billions of historical sources.

...If Xanga and the internet survives.

I think the internet will survive 25-50 years from now. Technology is so remarkable. I cant see it failing

I think that's how most of our history comes from. Written documents and periodicals.

Like diaries. Let's take Anne Frank's for example. That certianly helped us find out what life wa slike way back then.

Then we have our xangas and bloggers. It's a recording of our lives. It will be discovered, somehow. It might not be published though.

This post has been edited by WhiteLotus*: Sep 18 2004, 01:47 AM

[inthemudhole]

Yeah, we're history.

Anyone and everyone is considered history, whether or not we're recognized for it.. *Shrug* I've never really thought about it before.. until now, that is.

[sporadic]

everyone is history. If it happened, if it lived, if it was there.... And if there's proof of it.
Well
There ya go.

[Alternativemado]

Yes but if people were to look back, would ordinary people like us be history? or would people who are outstanding be history?

Would people like me and you be history? or Would people like let's say George Bush be history?

Everyone is history just because some dont make big contributions doesn't mean that they aren't part of history. Inorder ot ahve hsitory there needs to be more than one person. NOt only authority figures and important ppl make his history but each of us make our own history it may not be in history books but its still there.

[LilPiggi3]

I think we are living in events that will consider history 100 years from now...

+the California Re-call election << i heard it was the 2nd re-call to happen in 50 years??
+We got to see the new millennium '2000'
+We witness 9/11
+The Iraq war just happened before our eyes
+SARS was a big deal, thats history

[christiee_nax]

its really cool when you think about it .. we're going to be down in history books! woot! not exactly our own names but still. lol

[Smitty]

In my opinion, every single thing that happens is history. Every little thing we do might have a massive impact later down the road. For example, a butterfly can flap it's wings in China and cause a tornado in America. (I don't know if that's true, I read it in a book, just as an example). A tiny thing can mean something huge happens. Another example: Say some class bully reads this post, realizes what he's doing to one of the "losers" may cause them to become the next school shooters. And they might've.... if they kept getting picked on. But since the bully quit picking on them, they had more self esteem blah blah blah, and invented a cure for cancer or something.

So in conclusion, everything that happens is history. Thanks for reading!

[sikdragon]

Ok, well if it's history who is keeping record of it??? God of course, but if we choose to deny his love for you and existence, then no one. If God isn't taking notes then you guys are all nobodies.


sad, but true.

[sammi rules you]

tomorrow, today will be history. if we do something important enough, someone in our generation may be in history books in 50 years. everyone can be history.

[sikdragon]

the topic does not question potential, the topic poster was clearly examining our self-worth and our worth to the world and our descendants.

[sammi rules you]

the topic does not question potential, the topic poster was clearly examining our self-worth and our worth to the world and our descendants.

no she wasn't, all she asked was if we are history. that doesn't have to do with our self-worth.

[sikdragon]

The what does have to do with self-worth?

[sammi rules you]

The what does have to do with self-worth?

the what has to do with self-worth?..i dunno, good question. actually not so much since i don't see how that's grammatically correct at all. i don't even know what you were asking.

[sikdragon]

then*

[sammi rules you]

i don't know what has to do with self-worth, you're the one that said it, not me..