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"Happy Birthday to You" is protected by copywrite
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post Aug 26 2004, 09:44 AM
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Check it out!!!!!!!!!!
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 09:49 AM
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wow never really thought of it.... mellow.gif

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post Aug 26 2004, 10:03 AM
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Well, nobody's gonna say that they wrote the happy birthday song, so I guess everyone's safe..

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post Aug 26 2004, 10:15 AM
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"Happy Birthday to You" is protected by copywrite?
yu mean copyright [=
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 10:25 AM
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wow...that's really nifty fact to know...
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 10:26 AM
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wow, that's really interesting to know.
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 10:35 AM
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well, well... you do learn new things every day, eh?
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 11:54 AM
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post Aug 26 2004, 11:56 AM
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umm.. interesting .. i c..
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 11:56 AM
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^^how could you think that's cool!? that's just absolute bull! ^^

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post Aug 26 2004, 11:57 AM
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:02 PM
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I already knew that.. but I think it'd be stupid for someone to sue someone else for singing a song that no living person wrote.
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(pikimoo @ Aug 26 2004, 1:02 PM)
I already knew that.. but I think it'd be stupid for someone to sue someone else for singing a song that no living person wrote.

Um, because it's copyrighted doesn't mean you can't use it. It means that you can't claim that you wrote the song, and if you're not a complete idiot, you wouldn't anyways.
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(waccoon @ Aug 26 2004, 9:17 AM)
Um, because it's copyrighted doesn't mean you can't use it. It means that you can't claim that you wrote the song, and if you're not a complete idiot, you wouldn't anyways.

I read the page. It says you can't sing it on tv, make little watches with tunes, etc.

Basically, you're not allowed to make profits from it without liscencing.(ugh..sp?)
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:27 PM
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hahaha thats stupid, so i'll just go copyright a word and every time some one says it i'll sue them. haha great...
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(pikimoo @ Aug 26 2004, 1:25 PM)
I read the page. It says you can't sing it on tv, make little watches with tunes, etc.

Most people aren't going to broadcast their birthday parties on television, and when you see it being sung on television, read the credits at the end of the program.
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(waccoon @ Aug 26 2004, 9:28 AM)
Most people aren't going to broadcast their birthday parties on television, and when you see it being sung on television, read the credits at the end of the program.

Yeah, well it's not ALWAYS in the credits. But even in that case, I still think it would be stupid to sue.

By my earlier comment, I didn't mean just any person singing it. I meant someone possible to sue. In which case.... stupid.






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post Aug 26 2004, 12:34 PM
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i never knew that happy b-day was copyrighted
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(pikimoo @ Aug 26 2004, 1:31 PM)
Yeah, well it's not ALWAYS in the credits. But even in that case, I still think it would be stupid to sue.

By my earlier comment, I didn't mean just any person singing it. I meant someone possible to sue. In which case.... stupid.






btw Nick, I LOVE your avatar.

Well, it the creator really around to sue?

My signature's pretty sexy too wink.gif
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:37 PM
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wow i never knew that _unsure.gif . But it would be dumb for someone to go sueing people just cause they were singing that song
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(waccoon @ Aug 26 2004, 9:35 AM)
Well, it the creator really around to sue?

My signature's pretty sexy too wink.gif

The creator's sisters are suing.
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(pikimoo @ Aug 26 2004, 1:38 PM)
The creator's sisters are suing.

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Royalties are due, of course, for commercial uses of the song, such as playing or singing it for profit, using it in movies, television programs, and stage shows, or incorporating it into musical products such as watches and greeting cards; as well, royalties are due for public performance, defined by copyright law as performances which occur "at a place open to the public, or at any place where a substantial number of persons outside of a normal circle of a family and its social acquaintances is gathered." So, crooning "Happy Birthday to You" to family members and friends at home is fine, but performing a copyrighted work in a public setting such as a restaurant or a sports arena technically requires a license from ASCAP or the Harry Fox Agency (although such infringements are rarely prosecuted).


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post Aug 26 2004, 12:54 PM
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The Chicago-based music publisher Clayton F. Summy Company, working with Jessica Hill, published and copyrighted "Happy Birthday" in 1935. Under the laws in effect at the time, the Hills' copyright would have expired after one 28-year term and a renewal of similar length, falling into public domain by 1991. However, the Copyright Act of 1976 extended the term of copyright protection to 75 years from date of publication, and the Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 added another 20 years, so under current law the copyright protection of "Happy Birthday" will remain intact until at least 2030.


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Royalties are due, of course, for commercial uses of the song, such as playing or singing it for profit, using it in movies, television programs, and stage shows, or incorporating it into musical products such as watches and greeting cards; as well, royalties are due for public performance, defined by copyright law as performances which occur "at a place open to the public, or at any place where a substantial number of persons outside of a normal circle of a family and its social acquaintances is gathered." So, crooning "Happy Birthday to You" to family members and friends at home is fine, but performing a copyrighted work in a public setting such as a restaurant or a sports arena technically requires a license from ASCAP or the Harry Fox Agency  (although such infringements are rarely prosecuted).


It IS rare. And maybe I misunderstood(as it happens often) But still, my opinion remains. Suing someone for singing a song that you didn't write is stupid. And oops.. this isn't a debate.
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post Aug 26 2004, 01:07 PM
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Woah..I never knew that a song which repeats the words like..4 times is copyrighted. oO;;
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(Counting @ Aug 26 2004, 10:07 AM)
Woah..I never knew that a song which repeats the words like..4 times is copyrighted. oO;;

I'm pretty sure it's the tune that's copyrighted ermm.gif
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 03:44 PM
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ohh i just thought of something...when i go to hockey games they have all the kids (and adults) whose birthday is that day on the big screen. But they don't play that song they play the "They say it's your birthday. We're gonna have a good time." Song which is by the Beatles..that is very interesting...

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post Aug 26 2004, 03:49 PM
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wow such an epic. I know it come from somewhere but i thought about it.
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 04:10 PM
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Oh, I already knew that. Almost everything has a copywrite.

Someday I'll make a catchy Holiday song and copywrite it. Then all I have to do is sit back and collect the royalties. shifty.gif
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 05:31 PM
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Thats crazy.
Stupid people in the world have to own everything _dry.gif
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 05:34 PM
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post Aug 26 2004, 08:20 PM
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Haha, doesn't take much skills to create that song huh.
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 08:28 PM
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haha. yeah i remember my friend telling me that.

thats why they don't sing that song in restaurants. xD
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 10:41 PM
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haha i never knew about this haha thx for sharing...so if u sing happy birthday...those copyrighted will sue us wow hahahahaha LMAO ROFL! lol ok scary...haha anyways so wats going to happen to happy bday song in the future O_O

btw they do sing happy bday songs at the restaurant hammer.gif
 
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post Aug 26 2004, 10:58 PM
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cool, that's pretty interesting

USING THE HAPPY BIRTHDAY SONG IN A WAY THAT COLLECTS PROFIT REQUIRES LOYALTIES OR SUE-AGE, SINGING TO YOUR FAMILY OR FRIENDS MEANS NOTHING
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 02:01 PM
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so if its protected by copyright does that not mean that we cant use it?.... eh i dont really understand america
 
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post Aug 28 2004, 02:04 PM
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Yup, I already knew that... Coz the girls that wrote the song were from Kentucky (where I used to live for 3 years).
 

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