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post Feb 24 2004, 11:34 PM
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which do you think is better, and STATE YOUR REASON WHY.

i'm an import guy, but i gotta give credit where credit is due. domestics OWN imports when it comes to straight line racing. cars like the z28 can kill most imports just with a few bolt on modifications.

then you got civics.. those front wheel drive pieces of shit =X i don't know why people bother with trying to make them fast or THINKING they're fast, and putting all these gay wings and stickers on their car. it just ruins everything sad.gif
 
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post Feb 25 2004, 12:09 AM
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you didnt know that adding stickers to your car adds horsepower?!! thats why you see civics with those sooo cool stickers on them....*sarcastically*

id have to agree with ya...domestics could kill most imports however you have the occasional STi, EVO, and others...on the other hand you have SVT Lightnings, SVT mustangs, Z28's and other straight line cars....
 
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post Feb 25 2004, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(L00d @ Feb 24 2004, 11:34 PM)
which do you think is better, and STATE YOUR REASON WHY.

i'm an import guy, but i gotta give credit where credit is due. domestics OWN imports when it comes to straight line racing. cars like the z28 can kill most imports just with a few bolt on modifications.

then you got civics.. those front wheel drive pieces of shit =X i don't know why people bother with trying to make them fast or THINKING they're fast, and putting all these gay wings and stickers on their car. it just ruins everything sad.gif

i agree... the fastest u can get civics are 480 HP n thats the SI which looks like a gay hatchback pinch.gif
 
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post Feb 25 2004, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(dat_da_busit_hai @ Feb 25 2004, 12:19 AM)
i agree... the fastest u can get civics are 480 HP n thats the SI which looks like a gay hatchback pinch.gif

yeah, and even if you do get that much power, it's hard to get all that power to the ground due to the gay FF setup sad.gif
 
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post Feb 25 2004, 12:51 AM
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lol happy.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
 
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post Feb 25 2004, 01:03 AM
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Yea I am a total import nut and I must agree with you lOOd on the fact that most domestic cars off the assembly line are a lot faster than your average run of the mill import car that is stock. Yet there is something that drawss me to want to tune the hell out of those imports and turn them into beasts.

Then with that tuned monster you roll up to a z28 camaro and he laughs at you thinking he has you owned when little does he know that you are packing GReddy intake manifold, GReddy headers, GReddy T67-25G turbo engine, and GReddy intercooler & piping. On top of that you have an Injen air intake, HKS Racing Blow Off Valve, A'PEXi Power FC Boost Controller, C's short shifter, and ACT 4-puck clutch. Now lets say you are packing all this heat in a Nissan '95 240sx (mmm silvias *DROOLS* dribble.gif ).

So anyway the dumb f*ck in the Camaro thinks he is tough cookies and decides that he wants to race you when the light goes green. You acknowledege the guy and know in the back of your mind that this is going to be easy considering that you are hauling 433HP AT THE REAR WHEELS WITH 1.35 BAR OF BOOST!!!!

You both sit there hesitating, waiting for the moment. You see the light turned yellow on the otherside and you are moments away from blowing this guy out of his seat. The light turns red and then a split second later the light turns green for you.

You take off flying with the Camaro sort of keeping up. As you slam through the gears in your car you can here the blow off valve whistling loudly and your engine roaring. You hit third then fourth gear and by now you left that sorry sack of crap in the dust and you drive off with pride still intact. Goes to show that domestic cars aint all that after all. BWAHAHAHA!!!!

The reason why i told this story is like i said I am an import nut!!! LIVE WITH IT!!!!

**OH CIVICS SUCK BIG TIME I HATE IT WHEN THESE GUYS PUT THESE HUGE WINGS ON THE BACK OF THEIR CIVIC WHEN UM YEA...DUMBASS YOUR CAR IS FRONT WHEEL DRIVE YOU IDIOT!!!! WINGS WERE MEANT TO ADD DRAG TO THE BACK OF THE CARS WITH REAR WHEEL DRIVE!!!! YOU ARE DOING THE OPPOSITE BY PUTTING A WING ON YOUR ,ALREADY STUPID TO BEGIN WITH, CIVIC!!!!** dribble.gif dribble.gif dribble.gif
 
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yes.. :drool: silvia.. wow..
 
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post Feb 25 2004, 03:08 AM
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Tal_Dara, i completely agree with you biggrin.gif

it's all worth it just to see the look on the guys face after you get 10 carlengths on him, especially if it's a cocky ass redneck that thinks he owns the road
 
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post Feb 25 2004, 04:01 PM
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im a complete import psyco. I love jap and euro cars. I mostly preffer supras, skylines, honda2000's and 240 fastbacks. I cant wait until I can drift, FORET WHAT YOU HEARD ABOUT DRAG RACING! DRIFTING IS WHERE ITS AT!
 
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i like asian imports. not euro imports. not because i'm racist, it's because the european imports seem more classy, and japanese imports are more for the common folk.
 
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i like asian imports. not euro imports. not because i'm racist, it's because the european imports seem more classy, and japanese imports are more for the common folk.


me too, but...euro cars, are more durable. jap cars, you break em, you F***ed


i want evo cry.gif
 
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i love the sound of the blow off valve....its sooo...sexy. hahaha

for me, i love the audi s4. ahhhhh i love that car. sporty with a hint of class.
 
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post Feb 25 2004, 05:19 PM
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yeah, I love the bmw m3 and the m5, I also like the maybach bez, and also the audi TT, and dont get me started on ferrari and lamboghinni
 
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post Feb 25 2004, 08:35 PM
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blah well this turned gay. i was hoping people would argue with me and say skylines and supra's own domestics bla bla bla but that didn't happen lol

although i still think imports > domestics tongue.gif
 
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post Feb 26 2004, 11:24 PM
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dude i once over heard this guy talking at Hot Import Nights tryin to impress this person by sayin that by adding body kit makes the car go faster....hahahaha i totally corrected him and embarssed him in front of this hot chick...sadly i didnt get her number :(
 
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post Mar 10 2004, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(mjk1009 @ Feb 26 2004, 11:24 PM)
dude i once over heard this guy talking at Hot Import Nights tryin to impress this person by sayin that by adding body kit makes the car go faster....hahahaha i totally corrected him and embarssed him in front of this hot chick...sadly i didnt get her number :(

haha i did that too with this guy and his integra. it said type-r and had the same style rims and i go up to the owner and i'm like, is that really a type-r? he goes yup sure is. then i'm like, so how come it has a sunroof and the rims have 4 lugs? then he's all like i'm kinda busy right now i'll talk to you later and started talking on his cellphone -_-
 
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? STICKERS MAKE THE CAR GO A MILLION BAJILLION TIMES FASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111oneoneone
 
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post Mar 10 2004, 09:31 PM
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Omg, i read the topic title and was like, OMG, another one of these.

These are ALWAYS debated on car forums.

We all now they have adv. and Dis-adv.

It's comparing oranges and apples. No point in comparison~
 
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post Mar 10 2004, 09:43 PM
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I think we forget alot of imports are used for the sake of just show cars. As in, their not meant for racing but just for looks. Thats what basically Civic owners do, of course you gotta make the engine look nice also so that explains why alot of owners mod it up. Besides, I think most of you dont realize the cheapness of a civic.

Not that I would ever get one or fix it up like that.
 
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post Apr 5 2004, 07:58 PM
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[QUOTE]haha i did that too with this guy and his integra. it said type-r and had the same style rims and i go up to the owner and i'm like, is that really a type-r? he goes yup sure is. then i'm like, so how come it has a sunroof and the rims have 4 lugs? then he's all like i'm kinda busy right now i'll talk to you later and started talking on his cellphone -_-


Lol, that's so funny! Well yeah I agree with you on everything Lood and imports are the greatest cars ever manufactured.
 
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post Apr 5 2004, 08:16 PM
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im an IMPORT FREAK.......id say imports, like the skyline, which is fully loaded goes over 1000 hp......but stock cars can kill most import cars.....import cars are just made to look good, but some are made to run fast too.
 
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post Apr 5 2004, 08:54 PM
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I like imports because they kinda look better than the domestic kinds, I think.
 
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post Apr 5 2004, 11:07 PM
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The Evo is like an Import when it comes off of the line isn't it. Domestic/Import? So Evo would be my car..
 
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post Apr 5 2004, 11:51 PM
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heh. true, domestics are usually stock stronger than most imports (alot actually). but u can't run w/ domestics forever. it seems to me like domestics usually start needin alot of repairs around.. 12000miles (except for trucks which are alot better than in imports)? whereas imports stock can run much longer.

imports are usually more affordable which is a good thing. but me i like imports, i like the slick non-american look rather than the traditional traditional american-oriented look (like the new acura *shudders.. which honda sold to america.. only nice import acura is rsx)

it also seems domestic engines are better stock due to parts hard to find unless u wanna go for a full out custom engine (mucho $$$) and so it's easy to see that u wanna soup up a civic or wat not, it's hands on and overall ez for the simple mods.

i can't complain, i have a domestic and a import. pinch.gif
 
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post Apr 6 2004, 01:25 PM
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always been into imports, id rather have a 4banger runnin 9's then have some loud ass domestic v8 runnin 9's. Love seeing some sleeper v4 beating cobra mustangs
 
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post Apr 6 2004, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(chr1z @ Apr 6 2004, 1:25 PM)
always been into imports, id rather have a 4banger runnin 9's then have some loud ass domestic v8 runnin 9's.  Love seeing some sleeper v4 beating cobra mustangs

v4? hahah laugh.gif
 
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The V8s Rock! happy.gif
 
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post Apr 6 2004, 09:47 PM
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There is a v4........but that doesnt make sense does it?
 
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QUOTE(SkYlIneZx4xLiF @ Apr 6 2004, 9:47 PM)
There is a v4........but that doesnt make sense does it?

No not really...
 
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post Apr 6 2004, 10:32 PM
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euro imports own... nuff said...
 
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4 cylinder not v4 whatever lol
 
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QUOTE(chr1z @ Apr 7 2004, 12:25 AM)
4 cylinder not v4 whatever lol

hehe.gif Ohhh...
 
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post Apr 9 2004, 11:03 PM
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ok yeah i guess im messed up or somethin...but i like the imports and junk...like i Love RSX's..and some skylines....but man i would take a classic American Muscle Car ne day......i Viper R/T 10....V10...V12 optional(older models)...hmmmmm dribble.gif many can we say power........

errr wait...not enough yet......lets take that V10 and just add wheels....hmmm but wait Dodge did that....Dodge Tomahawk.....a V10 Bike.....0-60 in 2.5.........well here ill give you the Run down in that.......oh and look at it..its got 4 wheels so yeah it can be considered a car if you want...iono


Dodge Tomahawk Preliminary Specifications

GENERAL INFORMATION

ENGINE: 8.3-LITER, OHV, 20-VALVE SMPI V-10

Type and Description: 10-cylinder 90-degree V-type, liquid-cooled
Displacement: 505 cubic inches (8277 cc)
Construction: 356-T6 aluminum alloy block with cast-iron liners, aluminum alloy cylinder heads
Bore x Stroke: 4.03 inches x 3.96 inches (102.4 x 100.6)
Valve System: Two pushrod-actuated overhead valves per cylinder with roller-type hydraulic lifters
Fuel Injection: Sequential, multi-port electronic with individual runners
Compression Ratio: 9.6:1

Power (SAE net): 500 bhp (372 kW) @ 5600 rpm (60.4 bhp/liter)
Torque (SAE net): 525 lb.-ft. (712 Nom) @ 4200 rpm
Max Engine Speed: 6000 rpm
Fuel Requirement: Unleaded premium, 93 octane (R+M/2)
Oil System: Dry Sump
Oil Capacity: 8 qts. Mobil1 10W30 Synthetic
Cooling System: Twin aluminum radiators mounted atop engine intake manifolds, force-fed from front-mounted, belt-driven turbine fan
Coolant Capacity: 11 qts.
Exhaust System: Equal-length tubular stainless steel headers with dual collectors and central rear outlets

PERFORMANCE:

0-60 mph: 2.5 seconds (est.)
Top Speed: 300+ mph (est.)
 
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Awww it looks like nobody likes my choice in cars
 
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post Apr 14 2004, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(dat_da_busit_hai @ Feb 24 2004, 10:19 PM)
i agree... the fastest u can get civics are 480 HP n thats the SI which looks like a gay hatchback pinch.gif

ummmm u just dont look at the horse-power.. but also look at its weight ( its light) and also front wheel drive is a quick and good for handle in snow.. reagrding the horsepower u can also hav turbo.. and computer chips..
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QUOTE(fiji_kid @ Apr 14 2004, 10:27 AM)
ummmm u just dont look at the horse-power.. but also look at its weight ( its light) and also front wheel drive is a quick and good for handle in snow.. reagrding the horsepower u can also hav turbo.. and computer chips..

^ is not a real car.......its a 1/18 model of teh skyline

this is a real skyline
 
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QUOTE(SkYlIneZx4xLiF @ Apr 14 2004, 12:36 PM)
^ is not a real car.......its a 1/18 model of teh skyline

this is a real skyline

well i dont want a white skyline.. blue is much better.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(fiji_kid @ Apr 14 2004, 1:27 PM)
ummmm u just dont look at the horse-power.. but also look at its weight ( its light) and also front wheel drive is a quick and good for handle in snow.. reagrding the horsepower u can also hav turbo.. and computer chips..

front wheel drive sucks. awd is way better in snow, and so what if it's light, it's still hard as hell to get traction unless you do MAJOR suspension work, and even then with that much power it's nearly impossible to get it to the ground unless you're on slicks, which aren't even street legal.
 
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so why do u think people street race with honda in cali.. why??? mad.gif
***its quick*** and also it has a good resale value shifty.gif
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QUOTE(fiji_kid @ Apr 15 2004, 8:04 PM)
so why do u think people street race with honda in cali.. why??? mad.gif
***its quick*** and also it has a good resale value shifty.gif

because they don't know any better. all they're doing is following the trend.
 
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front wheel drive is wayy betta den back wheel drive, eva hit a major patch of ice wit backwheel drive?? crazzzzy..... and most awd's are major gas guzzlers...... $$ problem....
that whole honda thing....wings look good....but that's all they're good for....and didn't you guys know that adding stickers, cutting your springs, adding a spoiler, PIAA lights, getting pretty rims, and keeping your hand on the shifter even if u have an automatic car makes you go faster?? *note the sarcasm*

o ya.....and overall i like imports better...

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omg my friend just sent this 'definition of a rice rocket' 2 me.....hilarius:
Signs of a rice rocket:
1) Came with a 4 banger
2) Now "tricked" out
3) Uses laughing gas to go faster, which is ironic seeing as how the whole idea is a joke
4) Gay writing on the windshield. This is usually the drivers' name in Olde English (just in case they forgot their name during the run) or the brand of car they run (just in case you couldn't tell under all the body kits and stickers)
5) Gets smoked on the quarter-mile by an 80-year old Jewish woman driving a Continental.

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i like both
 
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IMPORTS SUCK!!! My IROC has blown out everyone I've come across in New York City so far in the street. I have a Supercharged V8 with a couple of bolt ons along with some Head work. Every TURBOCHARGED piece of crap I've seen has no power.
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they made a 600HP civic once.. modded everything in the car n put a type R engine n removed the AC and radiator. n all the non needed stuff like the back seat n crap...
 
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Blah, i dont like the negative close minded comments from you guys. It's just sad; how you think a civic is a bad import car to tune; and it can only reach the "430" hp. THe possibilities are endless with a civic; and any other car for that matter.

The civic is a cheap car that looks good; it's reputation just gets dirtied when stupid people do stupid things to it.

I believe that the import motto is "Take what you got, and make it better." Who gives a rats ass if you buy a 30k car and it can "eat" an import; with that 30k you could easily tune up a "civic" or any other import to "EAT" that car.

Meh; everyone has their opinions i just don't like it when they dont support their opinions with facts.

I'll listen to whatever perfung says eheh; because he sounds more like an expert. ;p

P.S: Since when did adding more oxyen(laughign gas) into the combustion chamber to increase combustion bad?

More combustion = faster piston movement = more poweeeeeeeeeeeeeer

iono that's what i learned from physical science class ;p
 
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Stop basing your opinions on cars because of what company they're from. That's like stereotyping against people. There are both good and bad cars from almost any company. Notice I'm not saying "imports" or "domestics" because there are Honda/Acura factories and such here in the US and Ford factories in Southern America and other places.

The point is, you should'nt say "oh, domestics are better because of .." or "imports are better because of.." because those are just generalizations. I mean, are you saying that a Honda Civic DX is faster than a Dodge SRT-4 just because it's from Japan? That doesn't make sense. I don't judge a car on where it came from, but on the car itself.
 
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Me too.
 
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QUOTE(elmnts of trnce @ Sep 12 2004, 2:14 AM)
The point is, you should'nt say "oh, domestics are better because of .." or "imports are better because of.." because those are just generalizations. I mean, are you saying that a Honda Civic DX is faster than a Dodge SRT-4 just because it's from Japan? That doesn't make sense. I don't judge a car on where it came from, but on the car itself.

i tihnk they're trying to say for example the money u spend on a stock SRT-4, you can buy a Honda Civic swap in a b20/vtec w/ some bolt-ons. and be just as fast with less money.

but for me ive always like cars doesnt realli matter to me, i like them all but i like JDM imports more than any domestic or euro. just because u can take a little economy car and make it into something it wasnt made to be. FAST
 
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QUOTE(L00d @ Feb 25 2004, 9:35 PM)
i was hoping people would argue with me and say skylines and supra's own domestics bla bla bla but that didn't happen lol

they do, go to a a nopi nationals and you'll see what i mean. but it depends on what modifactions they have.
 
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^same quote up tehre ahah too lazy to find it ;p

yea supras and skylines are actual racing cars- built for speed.

so it's logical to believe they'd do fairly well against other "domestics"
 
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i like the imports!! but the dom. have better hp to torque.
 

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