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melface
post Aug 17 2004, 04:48 PM
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What are your views on conformity?
I personally do not think it's okay for someone to conform (willingly, anyway)... Conforming just takes away from you being your own individual and having your own ideas, beliefs, and opinions.
 
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post Aug 17 2004, 05:07 PM
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Conforming in what context? I mean, you have to conform when you're at work, school, or things of the sort.
 
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post Aug 17 2004, 05:10 PM
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but why conform to every single thing?

I believe in not conforming to the norm
 
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post Aug 17 2004, 05:23 PM
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Well I don't believe you should conform to every single thing, but if you want to get things done, you have to follow the rules.
 
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post Aug 17 2004, 11:18 PM
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"If there is anything the nonconformist hates worse than a conformist, it's another nonconformist who doesn't conform to the prevailing standard of nonconformity." - Bill Vaughan
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 18 2004, 4:18 AM)
"If there is anything the nonconformist hates worse than a conformist, it's another nonconformist who doesn't conform to the prevailing standard of nonconformity." - Bill Vaughan

wow, i'm lost mellow.gif
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 07:21 AM
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that makes sense its like to a nonconformist there's nothing worse than a person who doesnt believe in conformity doesnt confrom to what normal nonconformists do.

but conformity is wrong. conversion for a good reason is good.
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(vehvih @ Aug 18 2004, 2:42 AM)
wow, i'm lost mellow.gif

Meaning....

Noncomformists do not like people who conform, but what noncomformists do not realize is that they dislike comformists for NOT agreeing to comform to their ideals.

Meh, I think I just made it more confusing....

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that makes sense its like to a nonconformist there's nothing worse than a person who doesnt believe in conformity doesnt confrom to what normal nonconformists do.


Yay, you got it! At least one person understand!
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 10:22 AM
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woohoo
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 10:47 AM
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I'll explain without using "conform" too much :P

I'm going to use stereotypes, watch out.

Punk Girl hates Prep girl, but Punk girl hates Punk girl 2 more because punk girl 2 does not appreciate the same bands or dress and act enough like her.

does that make sense?
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 10:49 AM
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why did you explain?
 
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QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 10:47 AM)
Punk Girl hates Prep girl, but Punk girl hates Punk girl 2 more because punk girl 2 does not appreciate the same bands or dress and act enough like her.

does that make sense?

Yup, good example....
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 10:49 AM)
why did you explain?

Because there is no way anyone is going to understand how you guys explained it, unless they read it carefully, many times. (That doesn't apply to everyone)

And my explanation just makes it easier. *shrug*
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 11:00 AM
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in your opinion.
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 06:05 PM
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I understood it the first time, Fae. mellow.gif
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 08:34 PM
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i would be a non-conformist if the norms were something that i did not believe in..
let's say the norm was to beat up all geeks.. i wouldn't want to follow that so i'd be a non-conformist for befriending the geeks.
i guess it all depends on the situation...
wait.. am i even making sense here..? i think i am.. i hope i am.. >.<
anyway.... you just have to look at your morals and beliefs, and see if societal norms are something you want to follow.. either go against the tide or just flow with it.. your choice..
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 08:46 PM
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Noncomformists do not like people who conform, but what noncomformists do not realize is that they dislike comformists for NOT agreeing to comform to their ideals.


woah! for once you're incorrect! a non-conformist doesn't have to hate conformists. they just don't conform with the conformists. it's too bad that most "non-conformists" don't accept conformists, therefore making themselves hypocrits. "be a non-conformist with us" *head explodes*

as for my opinion on conformity i can't say i support it but then again i'm not really against it. without conformists being unique wouldnt'd be special anymore.
 
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post Aug 18 2004, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Aug 18 2004, 8:46 PM)
woah! for once you're incorrect! a non-conformist doesn't have to hate conformists. they just don't conform with the conformists. it's too bad that most "non-conformists" don't accept conformists, therefore making themselves hypocrits. "be a non-conformist with us" *head explodes*.

happy.gif Wouldn't be the first time I'm incorrect.... I'm just interpretating from the quote. I guess I'm doing it wrong... or being too generalized. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
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post Aug 19 2004, 11:27 AM
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post Aug 19 2004, 12:30 PM
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Be yourself. There's no need to copy off someone else, you'll be a fool if you do. If you have any mind at all you can be original, and show your OWN views rather than droning out repitions from the norm.



ryfitaDF - faggy goth kids from South Park. "All you have to do to join is dress like us and listen to the same music we do."
As they all hate conformists, aren't they also conformists, just conforming to non-conformity?
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(hippo @ Aug 19 2004, 12:30 PM)
ryfitaDF - faggy goth kids from South Park. "All you have to do to join is dress like us and listen to the same music we do."
As they all hate conformists, aren't they also conformists, just conforming to non-conformity?

did you watch that entire episode? it was bout how such "non-conformists" are stupid and hypocritical. they conformed their twisted view of what non-conformity is.
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 01:24 AM
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Haha, that was a really good episode...

I loved how the goth kids would freak out at Stan whenever he didn't conform to their ideals.
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 01:43 AM
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Well, I actually appreciate some people who are conformists...

I believe that there is a trend in non-conformity, thus making true non-conformists to appear contradicting. So, lets forget about the "trend" for a while, and just think of what conformity is and isn't and then just use common sense.

Saying that "I do not conform" will not make sense if you take too literally. Why? You happen to wear clothes, therefore aren't you conforming to standards set by society? But when you use common sense, conforming to society's rule of wearing clothes in public isn't so bad now, is it?

"'He who would be free,' says a fine thinker, 'must not conform.'" - Oscar Wilde.

Eccentricity is a good thing most of the time, but if everyone possesses it, then we would not have distinction between leaders and followers since everyone will want to do things their own way.

Because it's not good for every human to be too eccentric, we must have conformity, so it's not so bad of a thing until someone decides to misuse it.
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 04:09 AM
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that just prooves there is no such thing as complete non-conformity. you can choose how much you want to participate in it, but you can't not conform.

unfortunately theres a trend called non-conformity that's really just a different kind of conformity. i am opposed to conformity trends. they're unnecescesary and idiotic most of the time. i think that was the conformity the question was about.

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Haha, that was a really good episode...

I loved how the goth kids would freak out at Stan whenever he didn't conform to their ideals.


haha, yea.

"dude! those last two lines weren't goth!"
"you're not a non-conformist unless you drink coffee"
 
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post Aug 20 2004, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 17 2004, 9:18 PM)
"If there is anything the nonconformist hates worse than a conformist, it's another nonconformist who doesn't conform to the prevailing standard of nonconformity." - Bill Vaughan

In other words (to a certain degree) Individualism is conformism.
 
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