world peace, Is it a good thing? Options

[sikdragon]

I am not a warmonger, but I am completely against world peace, what do you think?

[ghjgfkgfk]

well, stating your reasons might be helpful...

[sikdragon]

helpful to what, i asked if u were for or against world peace, my reasons will be another thread.

[inlonelinessidie]

But what you have stated seems to be hypocritical. You don't like peace but you don't like war? Reasons are needed to figure out where you stand exactly. This is not much of a debate.

[Spirited Away]

Good thing? Sure. Realistic? Hardly.

[ComradeRed]

It depends on what you mean by world peace. Even if you desire war, eventually there will reach a state of equilibrium (peace). The question is not whether peace is good -- Peace under a good system is good, and peace under a bad system is bad -- it's more of a question of how you go about achieving peace, and also what kind of peace it is.

[MeanBastard]

World peace is always good.

[aznrocksta]

iono if world peace would be such a good thing. globally no ones destroying eachother on a truly massive scale. the world seems to have alot more problems then just trying to keep nations from nuking eachother and causing genocide. so far, humans are a screwed up species if we think crap like nukes can help mankind.

but i suppose they would be helpful if aliens attacked.

[ComradeRed]

World peace is always good.

Not always. World peace under Stalin? Or the UN? Resistance to tyranny is man's highest ideal.

[highly_evolved]

Well if there would not be world peace under stalin. cause world peace means no war and everyone being happy. not everyone was happy wen stalin was ruling. well now that i think about we we can never have full world peacce

[capsule]

world peace = unobtainable.

is it a good thing? certainly. no wars, everyone happy...heaven on earth, no?

[MeanBastard]

Not always. World peace under Stalin? Or the UN? Resistance to tyranny is man's highest ideal.

Would world peace under Stalin exactly be achievable? Him surpressing everyone isn't exactly peace now is it.

[ComradeRed]

If no one fought against him, it would be peace.

[Spirited Away]

"Peace is not the absence of conflict; it's the absence of inner conflict."
--Unknown

Asking whether or not world peace is a good thing is almost like... jumping to conclusions. In other words, we're skipping a whole lot of content to get to a conclusion that's almost fantasical.

You cannot expect to read only the ending of a book and judge how good it is... You'd have to read the plot and experience the suspense and action.

Would the end justify the means? Tell me how world peace could be achieved, then I'll tell you if it's a good thing or not, in my opinions.

[sikdragon]

world peace meaning a peace obtained by having only one government and one religion and one currency a peace that has made the global community into one big happy family where people who believe in God are the primary enemy for being stubborn and not changing their beliefs and being tolerant.
This peace will be brought upon for seven years by what seems like the most truthful, most sincere, calm, collected, humble, man who is a great leader.

[Spirited Away]

It's not possible to jump right into this world of peace when every other man holds different beliefs and ideals.

[angel-roh]

i dont like wars and i want peace into this world... i dont get why you like to see peoples go to war and die cause they are doing that for their country... it hurts me to see our loved ones dying in the war. it's like you don't care about your own world. it's like you want everyone to die. i honestly hate wars, im sick of it. im sick of ppls who cries all day long and cant eat... who is so weak that cant do anything... at all. it hurts me too. so i dont know y u like wars... i would say that ur weird then. im sry ur weird.

[Spirited Away]

i dont like wars and i want peace into this world... i dont get why you like to see peoples go to war and die cause they are doing that for their country... it hurts me to see our loved ones dying in the war. it's like you don't care about your own world. it's like you want everyone to die. i honestly hate wars, im sick of it. im sick of ppls who cries all day long and cant eat... who is so weak that cant do anything... at all. it hurts me too. so i dont know y u like wars... i would say that ur weird then. im sry ur weird.

I seriously hope you were not referring to me when you used the specific term "you".

Did you mean me? If you did, then we're going to have a real heated debate on our hands, ladies and gents.

[angel-roh]

no i wasnt talking to u. i was talking bot the topic starter who created this.

[Spirited Away]

no i wasnt talking to u. i was talking bot the topic starter who created this.

Oh, okay

[Mini]

Peace would be ideally good. Except man can not achieve Utopia because we are not perfect. Peace is achieving a state of tranquility and everyone is in total bliss. That is not possible. There will always be conflicts and corrupt people. The belief of Ying and Yang. If there is good, there is evil. There will always be a balance.

[sikdragon]

the way i described it, will be possible. and no i dont like war, but sometimes it is necassary. at the beginning i said that i dont like war.

[toria66622]

why wouldnt you want peace?unless your a troublestarter I guess? I dont know...but it confuses me as to why someone wouldnt like world peace

[*kryogenix*]

If suddenly there was no more war, many people would be jobless.

[ParanoidAndroid]

^not really, if there was no war, they can still go to college and use their skillz to go on proffesional jobs

helpful to what, i asked if u were for or against world peace, my reasons will be another thread.

the reason why this is in debate is to state your opinion/choice and backing it up with good reasons. If you don't want to state your reasons then you might as well not post thsi topic.

I'm on for world peace

it's nice to know that there's hope and light in this world.

It'll be great to know that that hope can help make world peace.

It'll be awesome to know that world peace can finally calm the hearts and victims of war and death.

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I want the type of world peace in which people can let other diversed people get on with their own lives instead of putting up contreverseys.

You know, "One big, happy, and diversed family"

we should all learn to accept others

[*kryogenix*]

^not really, if there was no war, they can still go to college and use their skillz to go on proffesional jobs

I'm not talking about the soldiers. I'm talking about the military industrial complex. What do you think Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman and McDonnel Douglas will be doing?

[*RiC3xBoy*]

Working at McDonalds .

[ParanoidAndroid]

Working at McDonalds .

exactly

[vash1530]

i think that world peace is a stupid and uneducated hope created by mankind to cope with large problems. Seriosly believing that world peace could exist just makes people sound like dumb hippies. Im suprised there is even an argument.

[*not_your_average*]

Define 'world peace.' No war, specifically? Or no violence at all in any way, shape or form? (By that, I'm not just talking about war, I'm including domestic violence, animal cruelty, child abuse and the like.)

[xangelkissesx]

^I agree.
To be honest, I don't think they'll ever be world peace. It isn't all about war. You have to look at all the other aspects. We would have to be living in a Utopian Society to achieve world peace. Which I don't think will ever happen in our lifetime.

[misoshiru]

world peace is a nice concept to believe in - utopia. but think about George Orwell's 1984. they had "world peace" but who would want to live in a world like that? i certainly wouldnt.

and it is against human nature to have world peace. unless scientists found a way to "switch off" the gene that causes aggression and anger (if we had one that is). or, world peace, is indefinately impossible. fights are inevitable, whether they appear in the sense of war, or in other senses, there will be disruptions coming from different countries.

[*mipadi*]

world peace is a nice concept to believe in - utopia.  but think about George Orwell's 1984.  they had "world peace"  but who would want to live in a world like that?  i certainly wouldnt.

1984 had the opposite of world peace--it featured a perpetual world-wide war.

[xangelkissesx]

1984 had the opposite of world peace--it featured a perpetual world-wide war.

Thats true. Im learning about 1984 in my english class. Its a dystopia novel.

[*kryogenix*]

exactly

Ummm, I think you're kidding, but even if they tried, they probably wouldn't be hired. It's possible to be overqualified for a job. Companies won't hire overqualified workers because they aren't as motivated.

[mai_z]

i think that world peace is a stupid and uneducated hope created by mankind to cope with large problems. Seriosly believing that world peace could exist just makes people sound like dumb hippies. Im suprised there is even an argument.

You obviously don't have much of an argument either. This is a debate, so debate. Don't just bash and make general statements without backing them up.


Ahem.. so back on topic. I do not believe that world peace could exist, but I think that it is something that people should strive for. Without war, there would be many jobs lost. But with war, there are even more lives lost.

[*not_your_average*]

Lois Lowry wrote a book called The Giver. In that book, the Community is all peaceful. There is no war, no conflict, nothing. It is a utopia. However, there are numerous laws governing everything, from how many children you can raise to how children under the age of seven should wear their coats. There is no feeling, because feelings cause conflict. I would hate to live in such a world. As long as there is feeling and emotion, world peace is impossible.

[misoshiru]

1984 had the opposite of world peace--it featured a perpetual world-wide war.

damnit. i must've forgotten the contents already. mybad.

[Joss-eh-lime]

helpful to what, i asked if u were for or against world peace, my reasons will be another thread.

well doesnt matter you're gonna get peoples reasons anyway

i think itd be cool but it would never last

[jEllyBeaNs]

why wouldnt you want peace?unless your a troublestarter I guess? I dont know...but it confuses me as to why someone wouldnt like world peace

^i concur. who wouldn't want world peace? world peace would be a lot better than a world full of destruction and hate. if there was world peace everyone would be treated farely and everything in the world would be...well more peaceful. thats just krazy that you wouldn't want world peace!

[EddieV]

I believe World Peace is a good thing for us. I may sound a bit farfetched now, but what is aliens attacked the Earth. Because of our world peace we would have no way to defend ourself.

[innovation]

I believe that world peace in an open society would be good...if ever possible. Is this topic getting anywhere?

[_suzie_]

World piece is a LONG way off , because there are rife injustices within our own socieites and throughout the rest of the world. when we learn how to treat each other right and look after each other , then we can start thinking about that.

its like communism - good idea , but the human nature at this moment can't handle it. it always goes wrong because of greed, or so on so forth.

at least we're moving forward anyways, right ? alot of countries have abolished their armies, like iceland n shit, so thats a good move i think. i think its all down to education, which again, isnt available to all peopole throughout the world.

argh!! deep thoughts!! lol. this is way too debatable. Coming from a torn country, i'd say that the best thing we can do is just get the f**k on with life, and put stupid arguments and bigotted views behind us , and try for a better future 4 everyone . yeh i know, rant of doom. world piece is a long way off

[ComradeRed]

"In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder, bloodshed—they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
--Orson Welles

[*kryogenix*]

"In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder, bloodshed—they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
--Orson Welles

Right on! Welcome back!

[MFDOOM]

World Peace will never be achieved. The Illuminati has orchestrated an international soap opera in which there will always be conflict.

[*mipadi*]

World Peace will never be achieved. The Illuminati has orchestrated an international soap opera in which there will always be conflict.

The discussion isn't if it will be achieved, but if it should be achieved at all.

[racoons > you]

"In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder, bloodshed—they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
--Orson Welles

well i have cuckoo clock in my room and it's PRETTY. don't disrespect the cuckoo clock.

I believe that world peace in an open society would be good...if ever possible. Is this topic getting anywhere?

agreed. i missed you, mindy

[acid_high]

World peace something like money every body wants it but it ain't gonna happen. I think that the world will never be at peace because of the egos we have in office. I mean anything is possible if we try but the problem is that no one is trying

[yo pusha]

Lois Lowry wrote a book called The Giver. In that book, the Community is all peaceful. There is no war, no conflict, nothing. It is a utopia. However, there are numerous laws governing everything, from how many children you can raise to how children under the age of seven should wear their coats. There is no feeling, because feelings cause conflict. I would hate to live in such a world. As long as there is feeling and emotion, world peace is impossible.

i have not read the book, but is that not the most extreme example? i believe world peace is possible, and world peace in an open society is also possible. i believe as the world advances and "flattens", human beings will make progress as well. just look at how far we have come in the last century. eventually, our race will become tolerant enough to allow the idea of world peace to happen. we are approaching the age of ideas , and instead of connecting with people because of silly reasons such as skin color or race, we will begin to connect based on shared ideas. steven ding, always the optimist

[sikdragon]

I believe in war. World peace is a waste of time. Yes, that's the goal, but without war there is no peace. Just like without death there is no life. It'd all be the same. To put it plainly, a lasting world peace would be boring.

[*not_your_average*]

i have not read the book, but is that not the most extreme example? i believe world peace is possible, and world peace in an open society is also possible. i believe as the world advances and "flattens", human beings will make progress as well. just look at how far we have come in the last century. eventually, our race will become tolerant enough to allow the idea of world peace to happen. we are approaching the age of ideas , and instead of connecting with people because of silly reasons such as skin color or race, we will begin to connect based on shared ideas. steven ding, always the optimist

It is an extreme example, but the ideas in that same book are in its smallest form in our world today. I don't believe we are born with feelings, rather, we are taught them. Just like prejudice is taught, racism is taught, hate is taught, love and happiness are taught. With world peace, everything would be good and lovely, right? Without the bad to balance it out, we would never appreciate the good and lovely that came because of world peace. Therefore, if we take it for granted, we will not appreciate it and start wars again. Without war, world peace is not going to be possible, appreciated or desired. With war, world peace is not possible, appreciated or desired.
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Shit, man, I'm confusing myself!

[*Blow_Don't_SUCK*]

world peace meaning a peace obtained by having only one government and one religion and one currency a peace that has made the global community into one big happy family where people who believe in God are the primary enemy for being stubborn and not changing their beliefs and being tolerant.
This peace will be brought upon for seven years by what seems like the most truthful, most sincere, calm, collected, humble, man who is a great leader.

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my definition of world peace is a world that still has its difference but the different people learn how to live together in peace.


So for me, it's gooood.

[strice]

holy crap, sikdragon you are one crazy motherf**ker for still posting here after so long. you and that sad lake acid or whatever his name is. i think its a bit weird that you think that world peace is boring.i for one don't find war particularly entertaining and i'd rather not have people die for my amusement. don't your people have something against war anyway?

[*Blow_Don't_SUCK*]

I believe in war. World peace is a waste of time. Yes, that's the goal, but without war there is no peace. Just like without death there is no life. It'd all be the same. To put it plainly, a lasting world peace would be boring.

Sure it'd be boring. But think of those in the world out there. Struggling to live every second. They would give ANYTHING to live a perfect and boring life in order to end all the suffering. You want to risk everything just to escape boredom? I'm sure from the person who spoke of The Giver realized the sacrifices that were made to make a perfect world, but I'm sure if you read about the painful memories, you'd wish you'd avoid that right? (But I sure did wish they didn't relinquish color)

[eternalyfe]

I believe in war. World peace is a waste of time. Yes, that's the goal, but without war there is no peace. Just like without death there is no life. It'd all be the same. To put it plainly, a lasting world peace would be boring.

So basically you're going the ying and yang path? Everything has an exact opposite? I can see what you're thinking, but I don't exactly oppose world peace. Yeah, it'd be nice to go to bed knowing that you'd wake up to a country where threats like bombs are noted every day. World peace is probably impossible, because of what you're saying, but we can try to get awful close, can't we?

[hirador]

So basically you're going the ying and yang path? Everything has an exact opposite? I can see what you're thinking, but I don't exactly oppose world peace. Yeah, it'd be nice to go to bed knowing that you'd wake up to a country where threats like bombs are noted every day. World peace is probably impossible, because of what you're saying, but we can try to get awful close, can't we?

It makes sense that without war, there would be no world peace, and sounds like an oxymoron, but it really isn't if you think about it. World peace, I think most people would agree is a positive thing. But that makes it all the more worth fighting for. I think everything good in this world if worth fighting for.

[*mipadi*]

[size=1]

It makes sense that without war, there would be no world peace, and sounds like an oxymoron, but it really isn't if you think about it. World peace, I think most people would agree is a positive thing. But that makes it all the more worth fighting for. I think everything good in this world if worth fighting for.[/font]

We don't have to have people dying of polio to realize that a polio vaccine is a good thing.

[aznangel4eva]

you guys FOR world peace are forgetting one thing.
wht changes would be necessary to take place in order for the world to obtain world peace.
does The Giver come to mind for anyone?

[Mr. Slowjamz]

hmm World Peace is pretty far fecthed in which most people believe . As What Blow_Don't_SUCK said World Peace defined as Unity an Utopianism is impossible . in order to obtain the realistic view of World Peace is too eliminate the strong idealistic negative views that hinder each other of race , and religion and specific cultural influences , bind that by a World Law . And Heighten the most shared philosophic most similar ideas & views . Shared views with postitive attributs can greatly advance the way we live today . Unless we share things aesthetically and mentally and creatively . as well sharing the smiliar negative effects that most people believe in and cherish and hold that who knows . but the Human Mind is complex.


that would take along time since many people have a different set of mind and how Religions Shun each other of disrepect .

particular views and laws from other govs makes it impossible

(there can be a company in a specific company that can believe marketing this specific product is good based on religious cultural and moral aspects. )

so kids .....its just not war and aliens there are too many things people believe in .