Jesus, God's son. Options

[Devastation]

i am a bit confused on this subject, i need some opinions on JESUS, god has had enough attenmtion, jesus is the one i need answers on.

[sadolakced acid]

jesus was an englightened human whom god chose to help.

yup i'm buddhist.


there's the trinity- god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit.

so, jesus is his own father.

the father did mary, and mary had the son. the son and the father are one and the same, along with the holy spirit.


here's my trinity: stitch the expirenment, mulder the detective, and Frankensitien the doctor.

yea, you need a christian on this.

[F1R3B4T]

jesus was an englightened human whom god chose to help.

yup i'm buddhist.


there's the trinity- god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit.

so, jesus is his own father.

the father did mary, and mary had the son. the son and the father are one and the same, along with the holy spirit.


here's my trinity: stitch the expirenment, mulder the detective, and Frankensitien the doctor.

yea, you need a christian on this.

thats even more confusing than the topic quesion

[sadolakced acid]

yes, to me the trinity thing is quite confusing. it leaked into the rest of the post.

we need a christian.

[Sumiaki]

Basicaly Jesus is the son of God by the Virgin Mary. Now, what are your questions about jesus? I mean... you're not gonna leave me hanging are you?

[capsule]

there's the trinity- god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit.

so, jesus is his own father.

the father did mary, and mary had the son. the son and the father are one and the same, along with the holy spirit.


here's my trinity: stitch the expirenment, mulder the detective, and Frankensitien the doctor.

yea, you need a christian on this.

OK, heres a diagram of the trinity...:


Hope its easier to understand now.

Jesus, to a buddhist, was an "enlightened prophet". To a christian, He was sent by God to die for our sins. (we were originally intended to be sent to Hell...Jesus changed that, allowing those who have accepted Him into their hearts will be in Heaven). He was crucified, died and resurrected on the third day (to fulfill prophecy that "He" would overcome death). He ascended into Heaven 30 or so days after he resurrected because He had fulfilled his duty on earth and plans on coming back for the "second coming" (AKA: rapture, start of the tribulation) to gather all Christians to arise w/ Him to Heaven.

[Spirited Away]

jesus was an englightened human whom god chose to help.

yup i'm buddhist.


there's the trinity- god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit.

so, jesus is his own father.

the father did mary, and mary had the son. the son and the father are one and the same, along with the holy spirit.


here's my trinity: stitch the expirenment, mulder the detective, and Frankensitien the doctor.

yea, you need a christian on this.

Made sense to me

[*Kathleen*]

Made sense to me

Haha same here. So did they answer your question correctly?

[CloudUnionX]

there's the trinity- god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit.

Although it is said that jesus is gods mortal reincarnation.

[tootsie_kiddo]

this whole thread has mucked up my already mucked mind, haha. too difficult for me

[Fashionista225]

I'm a christian..I understand how it works but I'm not sure I'd be so good at explaining it so I'll try like this. Think of water. 3 forms right? solid liquid and gas. God is basically the same way. I think of Jesus as the solid because he actually walked the earth, liquid would be the holy spirit because that's what flows through you when you're saved. Gas would be God, he's always there even though you can't see him.
Jesus is God's son because he actually put him into Mary (without the whole sex part of course) That's basically why they say we are all God's children. Hope it helped??

[elmogurly]

anyone ever heard of the bridge diagram?



God is on the other side apart from man. Jesus died on the cross to save our sins and became the bridge to God.

[danyo]

i am a christian but i don't believe in the trinity but at the same time i don't reject it simply because i don't know what to believe.
i have read that in the original hebrew bible the trinity part didnt exist until later, catholics added it in but the information i read could also be wrong.
so its still a question for me and i believe it will always be until judgement day where i get to see him face to face and ask him or see for myself but im more on the side where i dont believe it's true right now.
i've asked a few christian friends myself if i could get an explaination of the whole trinity thing but they would try and fail then say, just read the bible or attend bible studies.
why would people explain it as the father and son and the holy spirit then later say they are one? there is a father and son, yet they are one. if they are one, the son would not be a son.. they would both be the same, no? if it just means that Jesus is a human form of God, why don't they just say THAT instead of calling Him the son? Also, God made Jesus right? so wouldn't God have somewhat a bit more power than Jesus and over Jesus? i mean.. cmon.. Jesus calls God the father.. Jesus? God? already sound different.. God sounds more powerful
and Jesus followed God's plan when He came down to be crucified as the living sacrifice for everyone. So Jesus followed God. and also, Jesus spoke to God when He was about to die right and GO INTO HIS HANDS? so if they are ONE, who He speaking to and going into His own hands? I would understand if that's just a saying to say that the father, son, and the holy spirit are holy and God is in them but them being one, i don't understand..
Also the rest of the bible doesn't seem to go with the whole trinity thing.
and again, im not saying the trinity is wrong, im just saying all the things that keeps me from believing it and for you people to answer it for me (:
i'm not against it.

[Fashionista225]

The bible COMPLETELY goes by the "whole trinity thing" They are 3 forms of the same thing. The reason Jesus calls God the father is because God put Jesus into the womb of Mary (thats why it was a virgin birth, she didnt have sex to get preg.) Those aren't the only parts to it either..you seem to be forgetting the holy spirit... I'm saved so I have the holy spirit..yet, I read the bible and see what Jesus says. Isn't that the same as Jesus consulting God?????

[danyo]

umm i thought the holy spirit is a obvious so did even bother mentioning it.. -_-;;
i was focusing on the terms father and son because thats whats confusing to me..
if god PUT son there, God is more powerful than the son, is HE not? how are they ONE? k but if you believe they are one, they are three seperate different form thou at least right?

[black_cloud10]

ok i only read like half of these answers cuz they seem kinda long. i'll read them after i post. but my (christian) opinion is that Jesus Christ is the son of God, given birth by the Virgin Mary. JC loved everyone, no matter what. He was cruicfied and died for our sins. I've been told that when JC took all the sins of the world upon himself he appeared so wretched to God that for a moment God turned away, and thats when Jesus died.

They put him in a tomb, covered by a really really really really big and heavy rock. A few days later (3, right?) some chicks came to visit his body. I'll leave out the names cuz that's a different part of this story. This is just the bare bones.

So anyway they get to the tomb and its open. Not only that but there's an angel sitting on it. Guess what? No body inside. Jesus rose to Heaven.

I believe the Jews say that Jesus's diciples stole his body away during the night. They believe him to be a great prophet, but not the Messiah. I don't blame them, with everything going on in the world (not to mention how badly the Jews have been treated overall) this hardly seems like a place "saved" by the Messiah.


Now me? Personally? I'm crazy. I believe that Jesus is alive, in the same way that the angels and souls of the dead are alive. I believe that Jesus walks the earth and still performs his miracles.

The mean part of me would like to add that Mary had the best excuse ever. It wouldn't have gone over well if she had been pregnant by another man, would it? " He's the Son of God!!" awesome excuse. No one can use that again. We could have an entire religion based on a woman trying to make an excuse as to why she was pregnant....... /Evil Me

[Fashionista225]

Just because God put Jesus there doesn't make him more powerful..he put another form of himself there...God is all powerful, that is why he can have 3 forms. How would he be more powerful than himself?

[lilteardrop]

this site hasnt exactly started. maybe once it gets going it`ll answer your questions.

www.xanga.com/evangelicalteam/

[sadolakced acid]

is it possible...

that they killed the wrong jesus- and then when they put him in the tomb, someone moved the body. like... if those 'chicks' that went to visit him were tomb raiders.

is it possible?

[someflipguy]

There is no true explaination to the question...all you have to do is be a believer and study the bible.

[sikdragon]

Jesus is the way the truth and the life. The son of God and the only way into heaven. Read the Gospels.

[xnastyninjagrlx]

is it possible...

that they killed the wrong jesus- and then when they put him in the tomb, someone moved the body. like... if those 'chicks' that went to visit him were tomb raiders.

is it possible?

I believe there is no possible way that they buried the wrong Jesus. Think about it..during that time the tomb was covered by a gigantic rock that probably weighed as heavy as an elephant!! There had to be at least a couple of strong-built men to move that rock. And a few days before his very own mother watched her only son died on the cross. He was persecuted for days. So no I don't think there's a possiblity.

[Mini]

In one of the movies I saw, Jesus said that no one is perfect not even him, only God is perfect. Wouldn't that negate the Trinity statement?

[raw_material]

im a christian il explain and not confuse u pple...

jesus--- a myth a legend or wat? man plz jesus is the mack daddy....jesus the son of god.... jesus is the one that died 4 us in the cross and since he died 4 us he cleaned all of ur sins......the bible says he who believes that jesus died in the cross 4 our sins...will not parish but have eternal life(when u die u will go 2 heaven if u believe that jesus died for ur sins) why do i believe this...bcuz god said so in the bible its called faith buddy...plus how much time can it take a lil prayer with your eyes closed saying god i believe that jesus died in the cross for me and for my sins there for i have eternal life i belive...with that i garantee u the day u die u will go 2 heaven 100%...either ur baptist muslim bodha or w/e religion u are if u belive jesus died 4 u in that cross and just put a lil faith in that prayer u will go 2 heaven.......then u will have the holy spirit in you bcuz u made that prayer....if u guys dont belive me try me...one lil prayer will make everything change...god will probe it .if u dont believe me then try it...

god creator....his son jesus that died 4 us.....holy spirit in us...thats the trinity...holla!!!

[raw_material]

In one of the movies I saw, Jesus said that no one is perfect not even him, only God is perfect. Wouldn't that negate the Trinity statement?

no it wont negate the trinity....no one is perfect only God....then again when jesus died in the cross 4 our sins...he left the earth 2 become one with god....so the holy spirit lives in with us( once we accept god as our savior) no man is pefect...once we enter heaven we will all b with god therefore no more sin no more being not perfect....thats why the devil got kicked out of heaven...he sinned and was sent 2 hell....1

[Mini]

im a christian il explain and not confuse u pple...

jesus--- a myth a legend or wat? man plz jesus is the mack daddy....jesus the son of god.... jesus is the one that died 4 us in the cross and since he died 4 us he cleaned all of ur sins......the bible says he who believes that jesus died in the cross 4 our sins...will not parish but have eternal life(when u die u will go 2 heaven if u believe that jesus died for ur sins) why do i believe this...bcuz god said so in the bible its called faith buddy...plus how much time can it take a lil prayer with your eyes closed saying god i believe that jesus died in the cross for me and for my sins there for i have eternal life i belive...with that i garantee u the day u die u will go 2 heaven 100%...either ur baptist muslim bodha or w/e religion u are if u belive jesus died 4 u in that cross and just put a lil faith in that prayer u will go 2 heaven.......then u will have the holy spirit in you bcuz u made that prayer....if u guys dont belive me try me...one lil prayer will make everything change...god will probe it .if u dont believe me then try it...

god creator....his son jesus that died 4 us.....holy spirit in us...thats the trinity...holla!!!

God didn't actually write the Bible. Men wrote the Bible who were said to be influenced by God.

Hurmm, I just don't understand why Jesus said God was his father if Jesus was really God? It doesn't make sense unless the movie was false. OMG, I have been lied to!!

[raw_material]

God didn't actually write the Bible. Men wrote the Bible who were said to be influenced by God.

Hurmm, I just don't understand why Jesus said God was his father if Jesus was really God? It doesn't make sense unless the movie was false. OMG, I have been lied to!!

yea my bad god didnt write the bible lol men wrote the bible that where influenced by god my badl ol....

but jesus said god was his father tru....but jesus is god....hello the trinity goes 2gether ...god the father.....and jesus the son that died 4 us...theholu spirti that lives in us when we accept jesus as our savior.....after jesus died 4 us in the cross....he left 2 back 2 be with god....the movie is not fake....some pple just dont understand and assume stuff...i hope i made myself clear...if not do a lil prayer ask god 4 answer...i garantee u 100% u will get one...peace

[raw_material]

im a christian il explain and not confuse u pple...

jesus--- a myth a legend or wat? man plz jesus is the mack daddy....jesus the son of god.... jesus is the one that died 4 us in the cross and since he died 4 us he cleaned all of ur sins......the bible says he who believes that jesus died in the cross 4 our sins...will not parish but have eternal life(when u die u will go 2 heaven if u believe that jesus died for ur sins) why do i believe this...bcuz god said(he inspired men to write the bible on to wat he wanted) so in the bible its called faith buddy...plus how much time can it take a lil prayer with your eyes closed saying god i believe that jesus died in the cross for me and for my sins there for i have eternal life i belive...with that i garantee u the day u die u will go 2 heaven 100%...either ur baptist muslim bodha or w/e religion u are if u belive jesus died 4 u in that cross and just put a lil faith in that prayer u will go 2 heaven.......then u will have the holy spirit in you bcuz u made that prayer....if u guys dont belive me try me...one lil prayer will make everything change...god will probe it .if u dont believe me then try it...

god creator....his son jesus that died 4 us.....holy spirit in us...thats the trinity...holla!!!

[Mini]

I'm Buddhist so I really don't have the Bible with me, but why couldn't Jesus say that He is God and that God is He instead of I am the son of God, even I am not perfect, only God is. That just greatly confuses me.

[angel-roh]

Jesus is the son of God's...period

[raw_material]

I'm Buddhist so I really don't have the Bible with me, but why couldn't Jesus say that He is God and that God is He instead of I am the son of God, even I am not perfect, only God is. That just greatly confuses me.

jesus is the son of god.... god took our image and used it 2 go the earth and save us from our sins that was jesus purpose...god send his one and only son 2 die 4 us in the cross plain and simple...this is frustrating lol lol like i said just pray and ask god 4 an answer im sure that wont take more then 10 seconds just try it plz ok....one love one god one way...

[raw_material]

I'm Buddhist so I really don't have the Bible with me, but why couldn't Jesus say that He is God and that God is He instead of I am the son of God, even I am not perfect, only God is. That just greatly confuses me.

your buddhist im a christian....just like me i dont kno about buddhist and u dont kno about christianity so ask away feel free 2 ask no biggie.....god says in 10 commandments not 2 worship or other gods that is not him...so wat is buddhist then? does he come in that....im not making fun of ur religion..i respect wat u believe thats fine with me every1 is diff and has diff questiosn...im just trying 2 tell u god send his son 2 die 4 us in the cross...there for believing this we have eternal life!! just do the prayer plz lol..

[Mini]

First off, Buddha isn't a God. Many believed that he was a great prophet who tried to sustain order and spread order when there was suffering and chaos. Yes, I believe in that universal being that told Buddha to help the world to be a better place which that being is who you call God. Yes, I believe in Jesus but not as what Christians believe he was. I believe Jesus was also a great prophet who sacrificed himself so that God's message was delivered. I believe almost every religion in its own ideal state is the same, that the religion try to spread concepts and morals so that we can live in a sinless life and that it ensures us that death isn't the end, that it is only a beginning.

[raw_material]

First off, Buddha isn't a God. Many believed that he was a great prophet who tried to sustain order and spread order when there was suffering and chaos. Yes, I believe in that universal being that told Buddha to help the world to be a better place which that being is who you call God. Yes, I believe in Jesus but not as what Christians believe he was. I believe Jesus was also a great prophet who sacrificed himself so that God's message was delivered. I believe almost every religion in its own ideal state is the same, that the religion try to spread concepts and morals so that we can live in a sinless life and that it ensures us that death isn't the end, that it is only a beginning.

my bad u sounded kinda mad on the last post...i didnt meen 2 offende u or nothing my bad i was just asking so dont take it the wrong way.... but yea our purpose in this world is 2 sacrifice and gives gods word out....as u can see that doesnt happen...this earth or w/e is just a temporary um battle feel i can say....the real battle comes when we die....heaven or hell? most of these pple dont even kno where they are going ....thats why god wants us 2 be sure 100% that we are going 2 heaven not bcuz we did good things...we do more sin than bad things so that wont help....i believe jesus died 4 us sins....so the purpose of god is for use 2 give the gospell....

[Mini]

lol. Sorry if you thought I was mad, I wasn't.

[raw_material]

lol. Sorry if you thought I was mad, I wasn't.

nah its ok i dont like 2 offende pple so u kno i have 2 say sorry lol...thats cool do...im just trying 2 make my point so0o u kno how it does ...4sho... im new 2 this blog and im already posting alot nice...but w/e i hope u understand where im coming from on this topic...if not then let me kno lol

[Mini]

Yeah, I understand I was just confused about the Trinity thing because what Jesus said in the movie. Haha.

[sikdragon]

well the movie is just a movie. the bible is what you should read if you are confused. Jesus is God. God is Jesus. Jesus was completely innocent and never sinned. God did write the bible. He influenced them like someone who has printed their paper directly from the internet and just changed some words to make it look like they wrote it.

[Mini]

God can not write the Bible if God does not have control over man.

[raw_material]

god talked 2 the men that wrote the bible and told them wat 2 write......back then god would talk 2 them....now a days we must pray and read the bible 2 talk 2 him...he wont talk back...but he will answer back somehow... back then men where um encouraged inspired by god( dont really kno the word 2 use)

he doesnt have control over men bcuz he makes us make our on decisions...but he would speak 2 those men ...and those men would follow his will

[sporadic]

jesus was an englightened human whom god chose to help. 

yup i'm buddhist. 


there's the trinity- god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit.

so, jesus is his own father. 

the father did mary, and mary had the son.  the son and the father are one and the same, along with the holy spirit.


here's my trinity:  stitch the expirenment, mulder the detective, and Frankensitien the doctor.

yea, you need a christian on this.

Incest @_@

I don't know about the whole bible thing anyway. I think it's possible jesus was a real person, but I am not a firm believer in God.

I think it's more likely that a bunch of people wrote the bible under the influence of hallucigenic (eh, screw spelling correctly) mushrooms and sold it to the general public.

I haven't studied the bible, so I really shouldn't be making accusations, but I find most of what I've heard about god and the bible to be very hypocritical. Although, I suppose that's referring more to the people who are preaching "His" ways.

/edit I once had an arguement with a girl about whether or not God invented duct-tape. She claimed God invented all ideas, therefore he invented duct-tupe, and I said that God only invented free will, Man invented duct tape--- the product of free will.

[raw_material]

lets make this quick...if u dont believe in god.....and believe wat u said....then take 10 seconds...close ur eyes....and say if theres a god out there...plz show me an answer....let see wat happens...it might take days or weeks...but it will happen

[sporadic]

I believe that if you truly think about it, there is no way that you can be absolutely certain that God exists.

[sikdragon]

that is where faith comes in.

[raw_material]

so if god doesnt excist...who created us and the earth?? wat the "big bang theory"
or we came str8 outta monkeys and "evolved" or we just decided 2 appear...its called fate grl...w/e i guess

[sporadic]

It's strange, because though I believe in supernatural things, I can't make myself believe in God. Because every religion out there is absolutely positively sure that their God is the True God. I guess I just haven't found my True God yet.

Evolution - look it up. I completely believe in Evolution. If there is a God, of the religion of your choice, I think He(/She/It) made the earth, made some organisms, and let them evolve over time. What kind of an idiot would just start a civilization out? That wouldn't be any fun to watch evolve over time. No one who is the wisest thing in all creation would just go "Boom. there's a world and civilization."

[Spirited Away]

^ If you all want to discuss God's existence/non-existence, then go to the "god" topic and read the past responses. Thanks.

Many of your questions have been debated/answered.

[sikdragon]

no dont say thanks were not gonna do that, God is Jesus and Jesus is God.

[Spirited Away]

MmKthx.

I'll just post over the responses over then.... I'll just see it as there's a bunch of mindless people who ask the SAME question over and over and over again.

[raw_material]

It's strange, because though I believe in supernatural things, I can't make myself believe in God. Because every religion out there is absolutely positively sure that their God is the True God. I guess I just haven't found my True God yet.

Evolution - look it up. I completely believe in Evolution. If there is a God, of the religion of your choice, I think He(/She/It) made the earth, made some organisms, and let them evolve over time. What kind of an idiot would just start a civilization out? That wouldn't be any fun to watch evolve over time. No one who is the wisest thing in all creation would just go "Boom. there's a world and civilization."

every religion has there own good...good point...but do u think the 10 commandments cuz magicly appeared or they evolved from stones 2 writings um no...it says it in the 10 commandents its a sin to praise other idols or other GODS....in other words there is only one god!

go created one men and one women...wat u think they evolved from the dirt....thats where civilization started ..its hard 2 believe that from 2 pple all of us came out....it takes time...and god is a that can do many things..

[sporadic]

Who you callin mindless? >.<

Okay then, to jesus. I think the question's basically been answered now.

[sikdragon]

uninspiredfae u are so closed minded it is sick. this thread is a different aspect of God. u may think u are doing your job or whatever but you need to stop. What you are doing isnt helping.

[raw_material]

Who you callin mindless? >.<

Okay then, to jesus. I think the question's basically been answered now.

my bad i didnt meant 2 call u mindless...i dont even remeber if i did...its hard 2 think when ur trying 2 make a point lol...

[sporadic]

every religion has there own good...good point...but do u think the 10 commandments cuz magicly appeared or they evolved from stones 2 writings um no...it says it in the 10 commandents its a sin to praise other idols or other GODS....in other words there is only one god!

go created one men and one women...wat u think they evolved from the dirt....thats where civilization started ..its hard 2 believe that from 2 pple all of us came out....it takes time...and god is a that can do many things..

What the hell?

Obviously you are not processing one thing that I've said.

Here's how it goes. I believe that (following the God theory) God created small organisms and put them on Earth. These organisms eventually evolved into all of the creatures that you now see around you. Following? Good. One of these races was the human race. Humans invented (using their free will) everything man-made. God told some people to record the Bible on paper. Do you get it now?

(this explanation was supposed to be assuming that there is a god, and I skipped right over the creation of earth.)

[sikdragon]

a theory being an explanation of a phenomenon then yes.

[Spirited Away]

uninspiredfae u are so closed minded it is sick. this thread is a different aspect of God. u may think u are doing your job or whatever but you need to stop. What you are doing isnt helping.

Hmmm, I don't think I was referring to you in my post, but suddenly you wanted to reply in such a rude way... God didn't create you to be rude did He, or did He wanted you to love everyone?

so if god doesnt excist...who created us and the earth?? wat the "big bang theory"
or we came str8 outta monkeys and "evolved" or we just decided 2 appear...its called fate grl...w/e i guess

This is the person that I wanted to answer, because the question of the "big bang" theory has been brought up too many times in the TWO "god" topics.

Thanks for being rude, it shows how much of a good Christian you are.

[sikdragon]

rude begats rude. actually i wasnt that rude in my comment.

[Spirited Away]

rude begats rude. actually i wasnt that rude in my comment.

Eh, being rude is an opinion, just like it's your opinion that God exists.

Edit>>> Plus, I'm not one to say that God created me, therefore, I don't believe that I should be nice to anyone if I don't want to... on the contrary God wants you all to love everyone.

[raw_material]

Hmmm, I don't think I was referring to you in my post, but suddenly you wanted to reply in such a rude way... God didn't create you to be rude did He, or did He wanted you to love everyone?



This is the person that I wanted to answer, because the question of the "big bang" theory has been brought up too many times in the TWO "god" topics.

Thanks for being rude, it shows how much of a good Christian you are.

how was i been rude?? cuz i asked about the big bang? nice lol ha ur using the excuse...thanks 4 being such a rude christian lol ..that doesnt work with me...i never insulted u and if i did mY bAD...

[Spirited Away]

how was i been rude?? cuz i asked about the big bang? nice lol ha ur using the excuse...thanks 4 being such a rude christian lol ..that doesnt work with me...i never insulted u and if i did mY bAD...

I think you're mixing up my responses, kiddo. I was referring to Silk when I talked about being rude.......

[raw_material]

Whoa i feel stupid lol ...my bad nevermind that lol i thought it was 2me lol

[sporadic]

Adding "Thanks for being rude, it shows how much of a good Christian you are. " after saying something to raw_material gives the appearance of you saying that to him.

[sikdragon]

its not silk. and its not my opinion it is the opinion of everyone. everyone believes in a higher power even atheists. if there wasnt a God why do they need to point that out?

[sporadic]

Everyone may believe in a higher power, but not everyone believes in your higher power.

[sikdragon]

there is only one higher power and he has many names because many people percieve him different. so yes they do.

[sporadic]

In your opinion.

[raw_material]

every one has there own opinions in life....god says we must respect every1 elses opinions and not make fun of them or w/e...but he also wants us 2 give his word out 2 non believers....u kno how it goes

[Spirited Away]

Adding "Thanks for being rude, it shows how much of a good Christian you are. " after saying something to raw_material gives the appearance of you saying that to him.

Yes, and I cleared that up, thanks.

its not silk. and its not my opinion it is the opinion of everyone. everyone believes in a higher power even atheists. if there wasnt a God why do they need to point that out?

Non-believers didn't point out God, believers did.

there is only one higher power and he has many names because many people percieve him different. so yes they do.

So if I were to say that Yaweh and Allah are just different names for a God, you'd agree then?

[sporadic]

every one has there own opinions in life....god says we must respect every1 elses opinions and not make fun of them or w/e...but he also wants us 2 give his word out 2 non believers....u kno how it goes

Hm.. but there's sik over there saying that non-believers will burn in eternal damnation

[Spirited Away]

Hm.. but there's sik over there saying that non-believers will burn in eternal damnation

I've responded to that kind of statement, too, in the god topic.... Somewhere along the lines of God being unjust...

Sorry if I'm not offering anything new. I'm just tired of being repetitive...

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the bible says those who believe that jesus died in the cross 4 us for our sins will not parish but have eternal life...in other words they will go 2 heaven....in other words non believers will go 2 hell...our purpose is 2 make those non believers change so they can go 2 heaven....if i die 2day im 100% sure im going 2 heaven....wat about u??

[Spirited Away]

Going to Heaven only applies if you believe you will.... Not everyone believe in the concept of Heaven and Hell.

[sikdragon]

God says that, non-believers will burn in eternal damnation if they dont change before they die. That guy and I are saying the same thing but at different perspectives.

yes i would agree but the way allah is described in the koran he does not have the same personality. and Yaweh is the name of my God in hebrew. If you have to say you dont believe in God you are saying God exists u are just disowning him. Its like me saying the lakers won. GO KOBE GO KOBE.

[sikdragon]

Doesnt matter if they believe there is a place everyone is going. Jesus is the only way into heaven. and if you arent going to heaven then you are going to hell.

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Going to Heaven only applies if you believe you will.... Not everyone believe in the concept of Heaven and Hell.

so ur saying if u believe out of the blue your going 2 heaven then ur going...doesnt make sense....i belive im going 2 heaven bcuz i believe jesus died 4 me in the cross for my sins and i will have eternal life with god in heaven when i die....if theres no hell then u dont believe in the devil either....i believe the devil is everywhere its his job 2 make us sin....the devil was an angel in heaven...he sinned in heaven and was thrown down by god 2 hell

[sikdragon]

amen brother.

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Doesnt matter if they believe there is a place everyone is going. Jesus is the only way into heaven. and if you arent going to heaven then you are going to hell.

i couldt of said it better.....cant get in a game withouth a ticket..no jesus no heaven no rescue..

[sporadic]

I believe in the concept of reincarnation, because I don't think that this is all that life is.

Or, I believe in something along the Dante's Inferno scenario.. (that was actually fictional work, though) That there are seven levels of hell.

And there are people who believe in god, but hate going to church and such. People who are like, Okay, I believe in god. Now I go to heaven. Yay for me. But really don't deserve to go to Heaven. What happens to them?

And for people who believe in other Gods, and have different religions. What about them?

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your right this is not wat all life is...theres more 2 it....this earth is crap...its only a temporary place 4 us...like a battle field....it might seem 4ever 2 us...but 2 god its like 5 minutes....we are in earth 2 talk about and 2give out his word....and we reach heaven we will be rewared by the king god...once we day we dont come back 2 heart...its heaven or hell that simple....u just gotta have fate and belive god is the king

[sikdragon]

This isnt all life is, There will be a feast for ten thousand years and a new heaven and new earth. Every Martyr will be avenged. it will be so great.
there arent more than one level of hell atleast for humans. God doesnt judge sin he judges the cleanliness of one's heart. believing in God isnt enough the Bible is a guide book on how a christian should live. Church is just a gathering of christians to worship and fellowhip, if they do that without going to a "church" then thats awesome. the decision of who deserves to go to heaven is up to God. actions dont get you into heaven tho.

people who believe in other Gods without knowledge of my God could be worshipping him. It is when they reject him he gets jealous.

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This isnt all life is, There will be a feast for ten thousand years and a new heaven and new earth. Every Martyr will be avenged. it will be so great.
there arent more than one level of hell atleast for humans. God doesnt judge sin he judges the cleanliness of one's heart. believing in God isnt enough the Bible is a guide book on how a christian should live. Church is just a gathering of christians to worship and fellowhip, if they do that without going to a "church" then thats awesome. the decision of who deserves to go to heaven is up to God. actions dont get you into heaven tho.

people who believe in other Gods without knowledge of my God could be worshipping him. It is when they reject him he gets jealous.

God gets jealous? Isn't that like a sin? Well I was raised up to accept all religions and have religious tolerance, I believe in God. I just question his followers.

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nice!!!

like i said he who believes jesus died 4 our sins in the cross with not parish but have eternal life in heaven word!!!

this is how i see it Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth
B I B L E
( IT says bible lol)

[sporadic]

I question a lot about god and christianity, not necessarily because I oppose it or disagree with it, but because I want to understand why I should believe in God.

I'm starting to think that I'm subconsciencely trying to get some one to convince me there is a God. Hm.

[sikdragon]

jealousy isnt a sin, to covet something someone else owns is. Jesus bought all of us on the cross. we owe him. you should then i can explain to you why i follow the way i do.

[sikdragon]

did we all like reply at the same time?

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God gets jealous? Isn't that like a sin? Well I was raised up to accept all religions and have religious tolerance, I believe in God. I just question his followers.

u where raised up 2 accept all religions....well god tells us 2 respect and not envy or make fun of anothers persons beliefe.....all his followers are diff....we got baptist protestant and so on...we are all diff...but if we believe god...and believe that his son died 4 us in the cross....then no matter wat we are all going 2 heaven...black green white or purple...if we believe that...we are all united with tthe fam

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I question a lot about god and christianity, not necessarily because I oppose it or disagree with it, but because I want to understand why I should believe in God.

I'm starting to think that I'm subconsciencely trying to get some one to convince me there is a God. Hm.

I'm starting to think that I'm subconsciencely trying to get some one to convince me there is a God. Hm.


thats tight...i think thats god trying 2 make u believe....see thats our job 2 help u out and make u understand..not 2 scare u away...keep asking questions it will get better lol

i think we all did reply at the same time lol

[sikdragon]

amen

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what happend the topic died

[sporadic]

We moved on to hell ^_^

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yea i noticed lol..thanks 4 the reply lol

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well this one was about Jesus.

[sporadic]

I'm not sure what's not to understand about jesus, though. most of the arguing was about hell and god :P

[Spirited Away]

God says that, non-believers will burn in eternal damnation if they dont change before they die. That guy and I are saying the same thing but at different perspectives.

yes i would agree but the way allah is described in the koran he does not have the same personality. and Yaweh is the name of my God in hebrew. If you have to say you dont believe in God you are saying God exists u are just disowning him. Its like me saying the lakers won. GO KOBE GO KOBE.

A lot of people did mentioned that to me and other non-believers in the God topic... We all agreed that we will be glad to be in Hell, because that's where the majority of intelligent people will be. Cheers.

Not really. In Deism, people are satisfied knowing that they are creations, and not ask for more. If God gave free will, then it is in our free will to believe and to not believe. Choosing to disbelieve is just utilising God's Gift of free will. If God perchance to see disobedience in that, then He's an unjust God. Period.

so ur saying if u believe out of the blue your going 2 heaven then ur going...doesnt make sense....i belive im going 2 heaven bcuz i believe jesus died 4 me in the cross for my sins and i will have eternal life with god in heaven when i die....if theres no hell then u dont believe in the devil either....i believe the devil is everywhere its his job 2 make us sin....the devil was an angel in heaven...he sinned in heaven and was thrown down by god 2 hell

No, I'm saying that BECAUSE you BELIEVE in Heaven and HELL, you'd THINK that you'll be going to either places in the afterlife... But you cannot prove that there is Heaven/Hell... so... I'm saying is basically, believe what you want, but others will believe what they want. Simple

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A lot of people did mentioned that to me and other non-believers in the God topic... We all agreed that we will be glad to be in Hell, because that's where the majority of intelligent people will be. Cheers.

Not really. In Deism, people are satisfied knowing that they are creations, and not ask for more. If God gave free will, then it is in our free will to believe and to not believe. Choosing to disbelieve is just utilising God's Gift of free will. If God perchance to see disobedience in that, then He's an unjust God. Period.

why is he an unjuste god ...cuz he lets u do w/e u want?? thats ur fault 4 not following wat god tells u...just like ur parents if they tell u not 2 do something and u still do it..then u get introuble...if u choose not 2believe god and his gift...then u will get punished 2 go 2 hell...our purpose in this earth is 2 save and give the gospell 2 as many pple as we can so spread his word...yea u might b happy cuz ur a creation but wat good does that do if ur not doing nothing about it....

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lol he gave us free will and wants you to love him, he invented morality, everyone has a conscience and when they choose to follow the guy on the left shoulder holding the pitchfork then it is not utilizing his gift it is abusing it. he is not unjust, he gave commands and not following those is being disobediant.

and not period. its that kind of hostility that asks for rudeness.

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so ur saying if u believe out of the blue your going 2 heaven then ur going...doesnt make sense....i belive im going 2 heaven bcuz i believe jesus died 4 me in the cross for my sins and i will have eternal life with god in heaven when i die....if theres no hell then u dont believe in the devil either....i believe the devil is everywhere its his job 2 make us sin....the devil was an angel in heaven...he sinned in heaven and was thrown down by god 2 hell "

so if theres no heaven or helll....then u dont believe in god or the devil...wheres does the devil live>? in heaven nope!!! the devil got send down from heaven bcuz he sinned in heaven...so he was sent 2 hell

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why is he an unjuste god ...cuz he lets u do w/e u want?? thats ur fault 4 not following wat god tells u...just like ur parents if they tell u not 2 do something and u still do it..then u get introuble...if u choose not 2believe god and his gift...then u will get punished 2 go 2 hell...our purpose in this earth is 2 save and give the gospell 2 as many pple as we can so spread his word...yea u might b happy cuz ur a creation but wat good does that do if ur not doing nothing about it....

And here is my response from the God topic...

There was an interesting discussion in my philosophy class a year ago about God and free will and there was a heated debate, though short lived. I will mention one reply that made a hell lot of sense to me.

The student, I'm guessing must be an agnostic like myself, said that if we truly have the freedom to choose or so-called, free will, then God cannot omnipotent because He gave up His power over man. In other words, God cannot be omnipotent/All Powerful if He doesn't have the power to control man's will.

If man is not free, in the case that the Almighty is omnipotent, then how is it that He can blame man for making the wrong choices? Meaning, man is condemned for doing things out of his control... leading to the assumption of an unjust God.

This is famously known as the fate vs free will controversy.

So this points back to my original statement in some previous posts that if God allowed free will, He will not turn away those who saw the Gift and seized it.

You see as hostility, I see it as opinion. Just like your opinion that God exists. How many times must I say that there are more than one belief in the world? You blatantly disrespect other beliefs and ask for respect in return? That's ludicris.

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Who will I see in hell.. Hm..
My parents, for starters. My brother. A lot of my friends. Many philosophers and scientists. Wow, that'll be exciting.

God can't be just if he's sending people to hell for not being sure he exists.

That's like me setting some one on fire for not giving me a lot of money.

I am so glad there are people way smarter than me who can remind me of what I believe in, and therefore not let me get sucked up into forcing myself to believe in god.

[sikdragon]

God is omnipotent, he created his humans and CHOSE not to control them.