Your favourite band lies to you, must read, interesting convo! Options

[Retrogressive]

I had the following conversation with a friend please read (I know it's long you should better read though)



Pirateonaisle5: Hi. This is loseronaisle5 again, and I would like to inform you just in case that I am linking you from my new blog: Loser On Aisle 5
XXXXXX This is a new blog.
Pirateonaisle5: I'm sorry I cannot read black on black.
XXXXXX This is a new blog.
Pirateonaisle5: Well I was waiting until I got an actual blog so I used to blog in more of a online journal, but I want to talk about differnt stuff in this one.
XXXXXX Like what?
Pirateonaisle5: I would like it to have more of a political touch, even local news and stuff like that. I'm really interested in it and I would like to write more interesting things than just journal entries.
XXXXXX With an author title of Loser On Aisle 5, I don't know if political commentary is expected.
Pirateonaisle5: Maybe not always politically correct and maybe some humor though. I use Loseronaisle5 in everything also so I would like to be recognized. What do you think?
XXXXXX I think it'll work out. Just skip on the music this time or your dial-up readers will hate you.
Pirateonaisle5: Haha, yeah I want the design to be simple and loadable because with stuff like this its more of content then style.
XXXXXX Don't be afraid to add a splash of color.
XXXXXX Or a picture of machine guns.
Pirateonaisle5: Haha to instill fear in the hearts of the readers?
XXXXXX Have you ever seen a situation where machine guns didn't make problems easier?
XXXXXX Got an argument with your depression-wracked girlfriend? Machine gun.
XXXXXX Long line at Taco Bell? Machine gun would fix that up.
Pirateonaisle5: Yes, I think that was Hitler's idea to...
Pirateonaisle5: But then look where he ended up...
XXXXXX Time Magazine's Man of the Year.
XXXXXX Twice.
Pirateonaisle5: And two emmy nominations
XXXXXX I'm serious.
Pirateonaisle5: no kidding? thats terrible.
XXXXXX Hitler was Time Magazine's Man of the Year in the late thirties.
XXXXXX Not at the time. He had revived Germany.
Pirateonaisle5: Wow really interesting, how did he revive germany?
XXXXXX Rebuilt their army.
XXXXXX Here, get an education: http://www.time.com/time/special/moy/1938.html
Pirateonaisle5: thanks, please forgive me for my ignorance haha
XXXXXX I don't really study history. But some facts I like to flaunt.
Pirateonaisle5: I try to learn as much as I can knowledge is power.
Pirateonaisle5: unfortantly I'm an idiot.
XXXXXX That self-deprecating shit is bad for you.
Pirateonaisle5: it's the truth I'm not putting myself down.
XXXXXX You're at an age where your self-esteem is important.
Pirateonaisle5: I don't have low self-esteem I know I'm better than everyone, I just like to come across as human for all you "normal" people ;)
XXXXXX Normal is awesome. Your deviance marks you as something to reject.
Pirateonaisle5: actually there is not such thing as a normal person...
XXXXXX Yet there is such thing as a f**ked-up person.
XXXXXX How can you have f**ked-up without a frame of reference?
Pirateonaisle5: Society trys to give you what they label as "normal" so thats what you compare others to, to label as f**ked-up when that really isn't so at all.
XXXXXX I've met some f**ked-up people in my heyday.
XXXXXX Society was right on the money.
Pirateonaisle5: but what are you comparing them to? Something someone else tells you is normal?
XXXXXX Well, let's see...
XXXXXX Well, I'd have to learn from something. So essentially, someone else would have to tell me what is normal.
Pirateonaisle5: We don't need people to tell us to breathe. We don't need people to tell us to see. Do you need someone to tell you what political stand you should make? Do you need someone to tell you THEIR idea? Because that's what you would be doing is just using someone elses idea as a standard when all it is is an idea.
XXXXXX Everyone thinks they have their own ideas about everything out there. The truth is that they're only deluding themselves. There are broad generalities and sub-categories of every personality archetype with associated idiosyncrasies. In essence, my so-called individualism could be just a petulant form of defiance to any standard out there.
XXXXXX As an aside, this sort of shit doesn't really bother me. If it did, I'd wear thick glasses and wear something made of lycra.
Pirateonaisle5: But of course that would bring you to is being what you might label an "indivdual" really just that or blending in with the other crowd. I guess what I am trying to say is that we should all base our beliefs on how we see things instead of how other people see them.
XXXXXX I believe the sky is blue.
XXXXXX I also believe cyanide is poisonous. Do I tell people or let `em figure it out?
Pirateonaisle5: damn it. That is differnt because that is facts not opinions, like if it was your opinion that a girl's dress is ugly then you told your friend.
XXXXXX My friend would probably agree with me when he saw that bitch's rags.
Pirateonaisle5: But he would be comparing your opinion against his own you see? If your friend was like the average american who now has to be told what to like and what to dislike, he would hate the dress because you told him it was ugly.
XXXXXX Humans have a propensity to automatically decide on things. It's a click-whirr reaction due to influence. You see it as a problem, while it's merely a conditioned action to spare us the trouble of spending brainpower on every little decision we have to make.
XXXXXX Sure it sucks that we go with the flow an awful lot, but some opinions have a greater prioritization than others.
Pirateonaisle5: But if that's how the mass of population is wouldn't it be easy to sway their opinions and have limitless authority?
XXXXXX Only if you're paranoid.
XXXXXX Or stupid. Or both.
Pirateonaisle5: yeah, but most people are very stupid. I mean think of advertisements they tell you what you should by then you go out and buy it. What would you do if you could get this kind of reaction out of millions or even hundreds of people?
XXXXXX Jesus Christ.
XXXXXX Advertisements are not as powerful as you think.
XXXXXX Humans have basic needs. Advertisements go after what people want as opposed to need. You need food, but you want a Big Mac. Or popcorn shrimp. Or a Subway sandwich.
XXXXXX Besides, if we didn't have advertisements, people wouldn't make money as advertisers or vendors of goods and services.
Pirateonaisle5: Advertisements make it possible for big corporations to use people into buying their goods. They are using what's cheap and easy to obtain to make money, even though it may even have terrible side effects in the long run its manipulating people for money... not trying to offer you a hot meal.
XXXXXX Terrible side effects such as...?
Pirateonaisle5: cigerettes for instance call cause death, but big corporations us human drive or addiction to brain wash people into buying their products.
XXXXXX Cigarette companies are at an amazing disadvantage for advertising. And not once do they slap cigarettes into people's hands.
XXXXXX People buy `em. They wanna light up. They know the shit's bad for `em.
XXXXXX Who the Hell put smoking on Top Ten Habits for Longevity?
Pirateonaisle5: I was just making an example. Ads make things that are bad seem harmless or cool.
XXXXXX Of course. That makes perfect sense.
XXXXXX Excess is usually what kills people. Any product in excess.
XXXXXX In fact, there is a way to kill yourself by drinking too much water. It's very frickin' hard, but is apparently possible through the slim possibility.
Pirateonaisle5: But they are using people's opinions for millions of dollars. They are brainwashing people for their own sake!
XXXXXX Your favorite band brainwashes you.
Pirateonaisle5: how so?
XXXXXX They make you buy their CDs.
XXXXXX Or download their music.
XXXXXX You think they give a shit about music? They wanna sell CDs.
Pirateonaisle5: They make music that I decide is good so I buy a CD not because they TELL me it is good.
XXXXXX But they brainwashed you.
XXXXXX Next you're buying concert tickets and maybe even stickers.
Pirateonaisle5: No, I decided that I liked them not by anyone else's opinion.
XXXXXX Someone has to convince you that the music is good. Even if it is the source.
XXXXXX No different than McDonald's telling you that they make good burgers.
Pirateonaisle5: I know how to make my mind up and discern between what I believe is good music and bad music.
XXXXXX Then stick with music. Don't buy anything else because you're brainwashed.
Pirateonaisle5: What do you mean?
XXXXXX I can't convince you that other industries are not brainwashing you, despite their similar approach to selling a product. So just buy music, and don't buy the stuff that comes from the brainwashing corporate authority.
Pirateonaisle5: No my point was not to stop buying stuff, but to make up your mind about what you want to buy and not listen to someone tell you what to buy.
XXXXXX Well then, I leave it up to the rational consumer based on economic theory rather than opinion.
Pirateonaisle5: So you think it's right to have someone tell you what to do, right?
XXXXXX On some occasions, I feel that it is very important for someone to tell me what to do.
XXXXXX Are you telling me to think for myself?
Pirateonaisle5: exactly.
Pirateonaisle5: haha the irony
XXXXXX Zing.
XXXXXX Time for me to go to bed.
Pirateonaisle5: Nice chatting with you, I enjoyed it very much.
XXXXXX I have to work for a national security firm.
Pirateonaisle5: your kidding me.
XXXXXX Nope. I eat free-thinkers for breakfast.
XXXXXX Moo haha.
Pirateonaisle5: Haha, I hope this is against your will?
XXXXXX Pssht. I'm having a blast.
Pirateonaisle5: Despite our disagrances and you eating people like me... I really enjoyed the chatting and I hope I didn't bother you/ or bore you to much. I seem to learn a lot from you.
XXXXXX Don't mistake it for pedagoguery. I have little patience most other times.
Pirateonaisle5: Your in college still?
XXXXXX Nah. I graduated.
Pirateonaisle5: wow, I must have misread one of your entries. I guess I seem very pre-mature, haha.
XXXXXX Did you misread the Pomp and Circumstance one? That's when I talk about graduating from college.
XXXXXX Time for bed.
Pirateonaisle5: Yeah, well 'night.

[IIO__oII]

woa. thats awfully long.. lemme try to stay awake.....
haha JK ;]

[Retrogressive]

haha I know buts it's awfully interesting!

[DesperateXMeasur...]

I read that in your xanga.
Very interesting I must say.

[sheepy]

O_O in-ter-rest-ing..

[Retrogressive]

thanks britt!!! :P

[DesperateXMeasur...]

thanks britt!!! :P

No problemo. ;]

[hybrid]

Interesting indeed. *strokes chin* Eeeyup.

[xjjajeengx]

dude thass hella long. its like one of those genius against genius debates...

[ichiban]

I know, huh .... lol .... my BRAIN

[zuhms]

way too long...

[Retrogressive]

yes... this shows that I am far superior to everyone on cB MUHUAHAHAH


no... ppl, it's not that long!

[inthemudhole]

Haha, that was very interesting (Not being sarcastic)

[Retrogressive]

thanks!!! What does everyone else think?

(maybe this should be moved to debate)

[*CEP*]

(maybe this should be moved to debate)

Not really.
I see no debates going on. Just your conversation with your friend.
That's about it.


And oh yeah, I read up to the hitler part..very interesting.
Cliff Notes still needed.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[pbear]

I skimmed over it the first time, but I actually read it the second time, and I have to say, it was worth it.
Really interesting, despite the fact that I had the urge to run and get a dictionary multiple times.

[Caustic]

You're just making asumptions based on the information in that conversation. My favorite band doesn't lie to me.

[hair products]

there is nothing in your conversation that clearly states your favorite band is lying to you. You think its all propaganda? Their producers get them air time, advertisement, and media attention for the sole purpose of getting rich and famous. This guy is telling you to think for yourself while he's telling you his opinion. You took his opinion.

XXXXXX You think they give a shit about music? They wanna sell CDs.

That's total bullshit.

Yes, power is the number one thing people desire most. However no band is started with the basis of making money.

You think conversations start out like this?
Guy a: Hey I'm a drummer
Guy b: Hey I'm a guitarist
Guy a and b: Let's make money!

Maybe in the corporate world it runs that way. Not saying the music industry isn't part of it, but you can't possibly tell me you think at one time in their life they didn't enjoy singing or playing an instrument.

As a musician, like the 50 million musicians on cb, I write a song and if I like it I'll get other people's opinions on it. I share it with them because it means something to me not because I'm gonna get sex later from them hoes.

Like you said if you wish to listen to the music then you will.

This guy tells you they brainwash you to buy their shit..

then he tells you later on to stick to buying music(which brainwashes you) because you get brainswashed by everything.

Where's the sense in that

[roxybabe]

to b honest i didnt get half the stuff u were talking bout o well interesting tho

[Retrogressive]

hair products you f**king rock!

I was trying to make the same point!

but you know he is ALOT older then me and a lot quicker!

[JlIaTMK]

some things confused me but i see ur main point....

[Retrogressive]

maybe I should have double spaced or something

[acidbreeze]

awesome

i want to read his blog

[Knight]

Interesting... I don't follow . I'm tired. I'll try to understand tomorrow.

[danielle7715]

WOW. i love hearing people go back and forth like that. maybe its my background of debating in student congress coming out of me, but i read that and cant help but wish that the people around me are just as intelligent and witty as you two.

...i wish you were my friend. haha.

_bows_

<3 dani

[highly_evolved]

woah! thats actually realyl interesting. i love the last part "so are utelling me i should think for myself? haha the irony"

[babiexmuii]

too long =/ but from the first half i kinda got lost...

[crazeegirl411]

maybe I should have double spaced or something

Yes plsplspls! I usually have more patience to read a clump of words, but I guess not when you're tired and you forsee a "debate."

[defjam_gangsta]

Greetings!!

okeyz. i've read thru da whole thingy. gosh, i didn't know i had to re-read some words again coz da meaning doesn't seems to sink into me. pretty BIG words ya got there. anyway, abt ma fav bands lying to me. i knew tat way back. they keep saying 'i love you' to da fans and all. how could they do tat. ya only say such things to someone special. i dun like ppl who two time and stuff!! oh well. stupid me!!

CHEERS CB!!