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[I_LiKe_PiRaTeZ]

OK. well yea.
My opinion on bush is that hes a moron that has no idea on what hes doing. he creates so much controversy on so many little issues that he should have nothing to do with.
example one: Lesbian/Gay Marital rights
No one should have control over who you can & cannot love, if a gay/lesbian couple wants to declare their commitment for each other then let them, & if they want to get married then let them, & also let them have the same benefits as straight married couples.. its not fair just to be deprived just because you love someone of the same sex.
example two: starting a war for an inept reason
Bush started the war on terrorisim, on no soild foundation. he could have just made the whole thing up to make his fatehr proud of him, being so in the past bush seinor had issues with iraq/al quidea (sp.) so exactly what im trying to say is that bush doesnt even know whats going on in his war.

i am out of examples right now ..
but anyways, yes. bush is a moronic idiot.

for further veiws on this subject please visit my xanga & read the enrty for july 21 2004..

i am currently: ANTI-FASCISIM, ANTI-RACISIM, ANTI-BUSH, ANTI-HOMOPHOBIA

<3 DAVe

[DisneyPrincessKa...]

example two: starting a war for an inept reason
Bush started the war on terrorisim, on no soild foundation. he could have just made the whole thing up to make his fatehr proud of him, being so in the past bush seinor had issues with iraq/al quidea (sp.) so exactly what im trying to say is that bush doesnt even know whats going on in his war.

The terrorists struck first. I'm really sick of people saying that Bush started this war. Clinton had Bin Laden's head offered to him and he didn't do anything. Then when the terrorists attack it's Bush's fault. Remember in September of 2001? Didn't you want to go after the people who were responsible for the death of thousands of innocent Americans? Now you're saying that Bush started this war because his father had troble with Iraq too. He didn't go to work for his father, he went to war for this counry.

Since 9/11 there have been no more attacks on the U.S. That means that we're doing our job over there.

[I_LiKe_PiRaTeZ]

The terrorists struck first. I'm really sick of people saying that Bush started this war. Clinton had Bin Laden's head offered to him and he didn't do anything. Then when the terrorists attack it's Bush's fault. Remember in September of 2001? Didn't you want to go after the people who were responsible for the death of thousands of innocent Americans? Now you're saying that Bush started this war because his father had troble with Iraq too. He didn't go to work for his father, he went to war for this counry.

Bush acted on no soild proof though..
& ARE YOU PROUD OF THIS?
people make such a big deal over 9/11 when actually it shows you just how stupid americans can be. i mean i like this country & all but, we are morons at some times.. Clinton was also not a good president setting an example for americans that it is ok to have an affair with your secretary.. but this is not about clinton.. war for the country, thats bull.. war is not the answer.. & not all people who acted on 9/11 & were "terroists" are actually understood.. ie; Mumia Abu Jamal, taken prisoner by the US a couple of years ago.. no quite good reason.. Media plays a key role in this.. & i belive that you are buying into it.. no offense & all..
Media= Ruled by state/Goverment= what tehy want you to belive they brodcast..

<3 DAVe

[dani41790]

psh i hate bush. he suks. i hope he doesnt become president again

[DisneyPrincessKa...]

What do you mean no solid proof? We found oujt who it was and attacked! I'm making a big deal about 9/11 because that's what it was. Thousands of americans were killed. Would be be happy if we just did nothing and there was another attack?

The people who flew the planes into the towers and the pentagon did it out of pure hatred for America. That would qualify them all as terrorists.

[islandkiss]

he's gay.

[defjam_gangsta]

What do you mean no solid proof? We found oujt who it was and attacked! I'm making a big deal about 9/11 because that's what it was. Thousands of americans were killed. Would be be happy if we just did nothing and there was another attack?

The people who flew the planes into the towers and the pentagon did it out of pure hatred for America. That would qualify them all as terrorists.

Greetings!!

how do ya justify da deaths of muslims way before 9/11?! are ya willin to claim responsibily?! is america willin to take stand on dis?! where were da powerhouses when ppl were fighting endless battles out there. wat happened to ppl in palestine/isreal. this has been goin on way before 9/11. anyway, is america and allies takin stand on da "unfortunate" deaths resulted thru their occupation of iraq and afghan. numerous ppl. women. children. innocent lives. just like those who were killed during 9/11.

BUT PLS!! now is not da time to point who is right or who is wrong. right now wat we need is love. love for all. we are gonna build our foundations again. we won't allow such things to happen or ruin our childrens's future. if ya agree wit me on educting, holla back at me. coz no matter how much we "talk it out here", does it solve anything?! we are not da one who is da recevin end. think abt it.

i come in peace and i shall leave in peace.

CHEERS CB!!

[onenonly101]

Everyone has to understand that we were going to go to war no matter what. No matter who was president we were going to at war with a potentially terroristic country. Do i agree with the war, no, i think we couldv'e gone to war with a more ininment threatening country.

Also understand that Bush is one person. Our presidents have always just been the face to look out. They are puppets. It is he people behind Bush who are running the show. It is ludacris to blame Bush when it is his council and OUR congress that are the ones that allow these things to happen. People act as those congress didn't vote on the war, or taxes, and the budget. Bush may have presented these ideas but it is our people who make it into law.

OK. well yea.
My opinion on bush is that hes a moron that has no idea on what hes doing. he creates so much controversy on so many little issues that he should have nothing to do with.
example one: Lesbian/Gay Marital rights
No one should have control over who you can & cannot love, if a gay/lesbian couple wants to declare their commitment for each other then let them, & if they want to get married then let them, & also let them have the same benefits as straight married couples.. its not fair just to be deprived just because you love someone of the same sex.
example two: starting a war for an inept reason
Bush started the war on terrorisim, on no soild foundation. he could have just made the whole thing up to make his fatehr proud of him, being so in the past bush seinor had issues with iraq/al quidea (sp.) so exactly what im trying to say is that bush doesnt even know whats going on in his war.

Once again Bush present the idea of banning gay marriages, but it is us, the people, who have made a big deal out of it. And also many people see the issue of gay marriage as leading up to other morally wrong decisions. That is why people were so hyped up about it. It is stupid....We have MUCH GREATER things to deal with like our children's education and our deficit.
Also we are not having control over who you love, we are having control of who you can marry. Just as you can choose to hate someone, you can choose to love someone. it is your choice.

Bush declared the war on terrorism but we have been fighting it before that. It is really Clinmton's administratinos fault that they didn't not take care of saddam and osauma because if they did, 9/11 wouldn't have happened.

war is not the answer..

War is the answer, if it wasn't blacks would be inslaved, jews would be inslaved and in concentration camps, Great Britian would still conrol this county, the soviet union who still be intact....war solves alot of things

& not all people who acted on 9/11 & were "terroists" are actually understood..

Huh???

[gcpnoy]

Watch Fahrenheit 9/11 and you'll know why I think he is a moron. Though the movie does have a lot of flaws, it still shows what our president is the epitome of. Stop pointing the blame at everyone else and get who is responsible. And most of all, please get our troops out of there. If the Iraqi's do not want us policing them, then allow them to take care of themselves. We can make our presence known without sacrificing our troops.

[onenonly101]

Never quote Fahrenheit 9/11. It is not a documentary because a documentary shows everything it doesn't make up lies and show a bisaed point of view. Quoting things based on lies isn't good.

No one ever want to research the stuff for themselves

[JessJR1022]

Since 9/11 there have been no more attacks on the U.S. That means that we're doing our job over there.

maybe the just don't have anything planned right now....... maybe the war on terrorism isn't completely horrible, but not smart...... but what about us being in Iraq, when we had nothing to do with it.....and also..... look at gas prices...


I was watching something on tv and they said the first half or so on Farenheit 911 is not completely true, but the second half def is
bush=

[Spirited Away]

Watch Fahrenheit 9/11 and you'll know why I think he is a moron. Though the movie does have a lot of flaws, it still shows what our president is the epitome of. Stop pointing the blame at everyone else and get who is responsible. And most of all, please get our troops out of there. If the Iraqi's do not want us policing them, then allow them to take care of themselves. We can make our presence known without sacrificing our troops.

Do you follow the news?

Congress is also to take blame, not only the President.

[ComradeRed]

Agreed. I have absolutely no regard for 534 out of our 535 congressmen

[Spirited Away]

Agreed. I have absolutely no regard for 534 out of our 535 congressmen

I wonder who is the one holding your favor.

[ComradeRed]

Hehe... Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX). I used to like Russ Feingold (D-WI) too because he was the only person in the Senate to vote against PATRIOT, but not after his blatant McCain-Feingold incumbent-protection bill done under the pretext of fair democracy. Ron Paul is politically similiar to Ronald Reagan, and he has much more integrity than most politicians. And he was born in Pittsburgh, PA! Yes!

http://www.house.gov/paul/

An amusing thing I found online of him:

[Spirited Away]

Hehe... Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX). I used to like Russ Feingold (D-WI) too because he was the only person in the Senate to vote against PATRIOT, but not after his blatant McCain-Feingold incumbent-protection bill done under the pretext of fair democracy. Ron Paul is politically similiar to Ronald Reagan, and he has much more integrity than most politicians. And he was born in Pittsburgh, PA! Yes!

Woa, you're too savvy in politics, which can be good, but doesn't it annoy the heck out of you when the guy your rooting fo suddenly turn out to be a rat in a mask?

Anyway, I've never even heard of Russ Feingold until you mentioned him, but I know Ron Paul, of course, since I'm a Texan.

Is Pittsburgh your hometown?

[ComradeRed]

Yes, Pittsburgh is my hometown. Are you in Ron Paul's House District?

The first time I heard of him was when he spoke at the Pennsylvania Libertarian Primary much earlier this year, and I read a couple articles by him in Congress Digest, before stumbling upon Texas Straight Talk, which has been an invaluable Congress resoruce for me ever since mid-April .

I remember in Congress Digest once they had this debate about the draft. On the pro-draft side were two Democratic Congressmen and a GW Professor. On the anti-draft side was Ron Paul and some quaker... it was funny, Paul and the quaker had totally different arguments and styles and Paul's article was just AWESOME.

[sadolakced acid]

haha. and i'm stuck in the state with the ten commandments judge. if i had the money, i'd buy roy's rock and crush it to gravel.

bush is too repulican, too christian, and too much of a cowboy.

hang on... i need my shield...

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/nq/2004/nq040719.gif

go there.

ahh, here we go
i love non sequitor

alright... now...

bush isn't a true american because true americans don't send other true americans to other countries to die for revenge.



america hater.

[ComradeRed]

Bush isn't Republican enough. If Bush adhered to traditional (as opposed to neo-con) Republican foreign policy, we wouldn't be in a war right now. If he adhered to traditional Republican domestic policy, we wouldn't have such a gigantic budget deficit.

[inlonelinessidie]

My opinion on Bush . . .

*crickets*

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I don't want him to be the President for another 4 years. I don't agree with most of the things he stands for and most importantly I don't agree with the war, and the fact that our troops are still over there.

VOTE NADER!!!!!

[Spirited Away]

Yes, Pittsburgh is my hometown. Are you in Ron Paul's House District?

No, I'm in the 7th district, with Culberson (TX R), I think. I'm ashamed to say I don't know much about his politics, though Ron Paul sounds like a cool representative.

I remember in Congress Digest once they had this debate about the draft. On the pro-draft side were two Democratic Congressmen and a GW Professor. On the anti-draft side was Ron Paul and some quaker... it was funny, Paul and the quaker had totally different arguments and styles and Paul's article was just AWESOME.

I wished I had been there, I might've learned a thing or two.

[sadolakced acid]

ahh, let me rephrase that.

bush is too militaristic.

he is a warmonger who wants war.

[Spirited Away]

ahh, let me rephrase that.

bush is too militaristic.

he is a warmonger who wants war.

What do you think someone else would have done? I'm just confused about options that were available.

[sheepy]

gosh i hate him.

[F_L_I_P]

He shall kiss my brown ass. hes Anti-everything and he and his dad is the cuase of the war. my opinion sorry to bush supporters.

-Phil-

[Spirited Away]

He shall kiss my brown ass. hes Anti-everything and he and his dad is the cuase of the war. my opinion sorry to bush supporters.

-Phil-

Well, actually, he's not anti-war, so he's obviously not "anti-everything" as you say.

But before anyone can say "that's why Kerry should win the Presidency", remember that Kerry was pro Iraqi war.

Sorry, just trying to be fair.

[F_L_I_P]

Well, actually, he's not anti-war, so he's obviously not "anti-everything" as you say.

But before anyone can say "that's why Kerry should win the Presidency", remember that Kerry was pro Iraqi war.

Sorry, just trying to be fair.

ok ok i went over the anti thing but he has alot of antis.

-Phil-

[inlonelinessidie]

In my opinion Kerry is no better than Bush. They're the same.

[jo3]

based on the posts in this thread, i can tell that most of you guys:

1) follow the crowd (your friends, your parents)
OR
2) are uneducated, and have no idea why you support a certain side

1st...look at this poll. it's already biased. "he sucks", "he's a moron". good job...

ok...you can say that you dislike the President, but at least give a reason (a good one...not just "he sucks" or some stupid opinionated reason).

this is how came to the conclusion seen above:

1)
[quote]In my opinion Kerry is no better than Bush. They're the same.[/quote]
if they were the same, there would be no point of an election.

2)
[quote]hes Anti-everything and he and his dad is the cuase of the war.[/quote]
2 people alone cannot cause an entire war. there were many different factors that played a part in this. check out some of the other anti-bush posts to see what i'm talking about (if you want to).

3)
[quote]My opinion on bush is that hes a moron that has no idea on what hes doing. he creates so much controversy on so many little issues that he should have nothing to do with.
example one: Lesbian/Gay Marital rights[/quote]
definition of "marriage" as found on merriamwebster.com - the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law

was the United States not founded on the principles of Christianity? shouldn't it stay that way?

4)
[quote]i am out of examples right now ..
but anyways, yes. bush is a moronic idiot.[/quote]
no...actually it's you who is the moronic idiot. if you have so many problems w/ OUR president, then why don't you leave the country?

that's probably one of the most immature comments i've ever seen. i hope that you're very young, cuz you have a LOT to learn

5)
[quote]Since 9/11 there have been no more attacks on the U.S. That means that we're doing our job over there.[/quote]
i don't really agree with this. after the gulf war (1991?) there weren't any attacks on the U.S. so were we doing our job? obviously not (based on your reasoning) because the terrorists attacked on sept 11

6)
[quote]Clinton was also not a good president setting an example for americans that it is ok to have an affair with your secretary[/quote]
i'm more of a republican, but clinton was ond of the best presidents we've had in a while (besides Reagan). he did screw up by having an affair w/ his secretary, but he's done so many good things to help our country. and i bet all presidents have their own dirty secrets (even though they may not all be known)

7)
[quote]people make such a big deal over 9/11 when actually it shows you just how stupid americans can be. i mean i like this country & all but, we are morons at some times.. [/quote]
this is actually one of the few things i agree w/ in this thread. of course, 9/11 was a tragic day because a countless number of lives were lost. but think about it...how long was our country patriotic? 6 months? and look at us now: we're so divided by parties, pro and anti war, pro and anti bush, etc.

will it really take another tragic event like 9/11 (or even worse) to get our country back to how it should be?

8)
[quote]psh i hate bush. he suks. i hope he doesnt become president again [/quote]
very good argument......

9)
[quote]he's gay[/quote]
same comment as above

10)
[quote]how do ya justify da deaths of muslims way before 9/11?! are ya willin to claim responsibily?! is america willin to take stand on dis?! where were da powerhouses when ppl were fighting endless battles out there. wat happened to ppl in palestine/isreal. this has been goin on way before 9/11. anyway, is america and allies takin stand on da "unfortunate" deaths resulted thru their occupation of iraq and afghan. numerous ppl. women. children. innocent lives. just like those who were killed during 9/11.

BUT PLS!! now is not da time to point who is right or who is wrong. right now wat we need is love. love for all. we are gonna build our foundations again. we won't allow such things to happen or ruin our childrens's future. if ya agree wit me on educting, holla back at me. coz no matter how much we "talk it out here", does it solve anything?! we are not da one who is da recevin end. think abt it.

i come in peace and i shall leave in peace.[/quote]
lets be friends you're one of the first ppl here that actually think before they write something

11)
[quote]It is really Clinmton's administratinos fault that they didn't not take care of saddam and osauma because if they did, 9/11 wouldn't have happened.[/quote]
you don't know that. if you say that, then you can say that it's the faults of the 4-5 presidents before Clinton, because osama and saddam were both ruling back then

12)
[quote]war is not the answer.. [/quote]
in some cases, i agree...but in other cases (including this one), war is the answer

think about before WWII. germany was invading countries left and right, but britain and france just gave them warnings because they didn't wanna get involved. and look what happened: germany ignored them and kept invading. once they invaded belgium, britain finally decided to wage war.

would the US have to wait until terrorists attacked before we made a move? wait...it already happened (not really...since we attacked iraq and not saudi)

13)
[quote]Watch Fahrenheit 9/11 and you'll know why I think he is a moron.[/quote]
ok...lets go watched a biased movie and make some biased conclusions about the President...........

14)
[quote]Stop pointing the blame at everyone else and get who is responsible.[/quote]
do you honestly believe that Bush is responsible for EVERYTHING that's going on? do you really think it's a one man show? are congress, his cabinet, and his advisors there for no reason?

15)
[quote]. And most of all, please get our troops out of there. If the Iraqi's do not want us policing them, then allow them to take care of themselves. We can make our presence known without sacrificing our troops.[/quote]
you can't make a mess and not clean it up. that's what we're doing in iraq. if we just withdraw our troops, the US will look very irresponsible.

16)
[quote]bush is too repulican, too christian, and too much of a cowboy.[/quote]
i agree w/ bush being too christian. although i think it's ok to incorporate religion in politics, i think he's gone a little too far.

about the cowboy thing...can he really change who he is? i mean, he IS a texan.

17)
[quote]bush isn't a true american because true americans don't send other true americans to other countries to die for revenge.[/quote]
half of the united states doesn't agree with you...because no one would vote for someone who wasn't a true american.

die for revenge? do you really think that the only reason bush entered the war was to have revenge? what revenge? if you're referring to 9/11, those guys were saudi, not iraqi.

18)
[quote]If he adhered to traditional Republican domestic policy, we wouldn't have such a gigantic budget deficit.[/quote]
i always thought republicans believe in deficit spending, whereas democrats would rather save the surplus. maybe i'm wrong (i forgot my economics)

19)
[quote]I've said it before and I'll say it again - I don't want him to be the President for another 4 years. I don't agree with most of the things he stands for and most importantly I don't agree with the war, and the fact that our troops are still over there. [/quote]
[quote]I don't like Bush or the decisions he makes. I do not support the war. But of course, I have no facts to back my opinion up[/quote]
you disagree w/ bush? thats fine. i'm glad you put it nicely instead of calling bush a moron


now that i'm done, i want everyone to read a post i made (http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=23&t=26744) that talks about how some people hate Bush so much that no matter what he does, he'll be criticized, even if it's something good

feel free to leave a comment about some of the statements i said

[inlonelinessidie]

if they were the same, there would be no point of an election.

Kerry swings too much. He can't decide what to go for because he wants people to vote for him. He basically agrees with what Bush has done, and if he wins it'll be the same as if Bush were still President. The number 1 reason people don't want Bush to be President is because of the war. Now what does Kerry think about the war . . .? Oh yeah he's PRO War. So how am I wrong in saying that he is no better than Bush?

[wakeboardhottie]

dude, even if we did go to the wrong place for the war.. we still got saddam and he has killed tons and tons of people. For everthing that has happened I think Bush is an AWESOME president. For the things that you people are bringing up against him are stupid and a lot of it doenst have proof like that stupid movie that came out. The fat moron guy went out and got little peices and put them together randomly. It's a false movie, and a waste of money... so yeah i like Bush and if Karry wins im scared to think of what our county could turn into b/c he is the most funny looking boring liberal i have ever seen.

Rock ON... and GO BUSH!!

[ComradeRed]

Bush has increased the size of government more than any other president, including LBJ and FDR. By Bush's blatant violations of the law, he is turning the US into a place that is at risk of becoming precisely the type of country that we fought Hussein to get rid of.

Some example:

Gordon Kahl Murder (FBI) - Gordon Kahl, a nonviolent tax protestor, goes on a radio show to denounce the IRS. Several months later, FBI agents besiege his house in Arkansas. He is stripped naked in his own living room, beaten with FBI rifles, had his limbs cut off, and was shot in the head. His son and one of his friends were similarly assassinated. His wife recieved death threats to remain silent. --> This outpaces any horror stories I've heard coming out of Hussein Iraq.

Waco Massacre (BATF/FBI) - A religious sect buys a lot of guns and puts them in a church. The BATF, and later teh FBI, proceed to raid the church, killing 86 people, mostly women and children. The Branch Davidians never attacked anyone. In a free country, people ought to have teh right to barricade themselves...

The War on Drugs (DEA) - Has lead to the HIGHEST INCARCERATION RATE IN THE WORLD. A higher percentage of Americans are in jail (OVER 70% FOR NON-VIOLENT OFFENSES) than the precentage of Iraqis in jail under Hussein. A good indication of how oppressive a country is is the amount of nonviolent offenders it keeps in its jails. By this indication, America is the MOST OPPRESSIVE COUNTRY in the world. The War on Drugs has also lead to many incidences of innocent people murdered by government officials, such as Mario Pax, Johnny Jackson, etc.

And more...

I am NOT a liberal at all. In fact, I believe that the vast majority of our problems can be traced back to liberals ... mostly FDR and LBJ. But the fact is that Bush is not acting like a conservative at all. He is acting more like a dumber version of FDR than a version of Ronald Reagan. We need regime change here, not in Iraq.

[cailean]

First of all....what the hell is wrong with all of you? Bush did an excellent job of carrying this country through one of the worst tragedies that we've seen since Pearl Harbor! And the war in Iraq is a War on Terror. Not specifically on Muslims...BUT if it happens that most of the terrorists who attacked OUR country happen to be Muslims then the President can't help that! I mean jesus chirst...do you think you could've done any better in his situation? I think the President did an excellent job in the white house and I fully intend to vote for him in the 2004 elections. God only hopes that most of you aren't old enough to vote which I suspect is the case.

[ComradeRed]

Bin Laden stated three goals in his terror crusade:

- Destroy Israel
- Overthrow Hussein in Iraq
- Withdraw US troops from Saudi Arabia

We've done 2 and 3 for Bin Laden. It seems to me that this isn't a War on Terror, but rather a War for Terror.

[*Kathleen*]

Rawr. How many topics do there need to be on this? There are other topics...please, don't make any more.