but why?, do we feel that we are better Options

[redsoxbaby87]

Sure humans are animals, be we feel human life is far more precious than an animal's. We are a far more advanced animal, therefore we THINK we are superior than animals we think are inferior(such as rats). Even though that may seem mean, unfortunatly, that's how it is.

Just wanted to point out that i didn't say we can't test on humans. We can, it's just humans have a choice and don't want to take a risk, where animals don't have a choice, unfortunatly.

but why?

[Sumiaki]

That's just how it is. People think they are better than others because of intellect, money, and etc. It's how humans act. It's like they like to flaunt what they have. I mean we think we are better because we can do more things than others.

[inlonelinessidie]

Money makes the world go 'round. Consumers want a product and businesses make the product. It is cheaper to test on poor lil helpless beings because they don't have a voice to protest. Same thing goes with circus', I hate them.


Animals in Laboratories

Unseen They Suffer
Unheard They Cry
In Agony They Linger
In Loneliness They Die

PeTA
StopAnimalTests.com

[ryfitaDF]

well if it's so cruel to test things on animals then we should test things on humans, right? but wouldn't that be cruel to humans? so which do you prefer? cruelty to animals or humans?

i hate peta. they kill more animals than they save and look like idiots doing it.

[inlonelinessidie]

well if it's so cruel to test things on animals then we should test things on humans, right? but wouldn't that be cruel to humans? so which do you prefer? cruelty to animals or humans?

i hate peta. they kill more animals than they save and look like idiots doing it.

I prefer that they test on humans. Because then people have a voice to protest. Why should something so innocent have to suffer?

[onenonly101]

^animals don't matter. They are here for me to eat, and for me to find cures for dieases.

Humans are actual people, who have a voice who need problems solved

[inlonelinessidie]

^animals don't matter. They are here for me to eat, and for me to find cures for dieases.

Humans are actual people, who have a voice who need problems solved

Well that's an arrogant way of seeing life.

[sutsami09]

In my opinion we think we are better because in size and population we win over to animals. We are intelligent (not that animals are stupid) and have made the world an industry. People changed the world that they feel they control it more that animals. But I think we shouldn't think bad of animals, they are living things too.

[EmeraldKnight]

Because of Darwinism.. survival of the fittest.. its biological

[ryfitaDF]

if animals don't want to be tested on they should evolve into things that can say "hey. don't test on me".

until then their only purpous is to feed me and keep a natural balance.

[inlonelinessidie]

Another person with an arrogant way of seeing life.

[redsoxbaby87]

^animals don't matter. They are here for me to eat, and for me to find cures for dieases.

Humans are actual people, who have a voice who need problems solved

really huh? because you obviously didnt know that HUMANS ARE ANMIALS!

[inthemudhole]

D00d.. animals are people, too.

How would you like being tested on just because you were more innocent than another being?!

That would effing suck..

[kraziegrl]

if animals don't want to be tested on they should evolve into things that can say "hey. don't test on me".

until then their only purpous is to feed me and keep a natural balance.

ssooo when an angry mother bear has cubs and all [or another situation, just watched brother bear.. so LOL] she probly thinks were gna go and attack her cubs, right? so shes trying to protect her cub, and attacks us. we say "hey, dont eat me, im not trying to hurt your cub" but can she understand human? nope. she cant. can we speak the bear language? nope. we cant. but we cant evolve or wahtever and speak their language. and neither can they. should we learn? yup.. thas possible............... >_>

maybe theyre saying "hey. dont test me" but its not our language, so we cant understand.

animals may seem smart.. or maybe some are just special. but dogs have 30sec memories.. lols, learned that from soemone. true? i dont noe

im sorry i cant explain well.. im trying.. ehhe you migth not udnerstand.. lols

[inlonelinessidie]

ssooo when an angry mother bear has cubs and all [or another situation, just watched brother bear.. so LOL] she probly thinks were gna go and attack her cubs, right? so shes trying to protect her cub, and attacks us. we say "hey, dont eat me, im not trying to hurt your cub" but can she understand human? nope. she cant. can we speak the bear language? nope. we cant. but we cant evolve or wahtever and speak their language. and neither can they. should we learn? yup.. thas possible............... >_>

maybe theyre saying "hey. dont test me" but its not our language, so we cant understand.

animals may seem smart.. or maybe some are just special. but dogs have 30sec memories.. lols, learned that from soemone. true? i dont noe

im sorry i cant explain well.. im trying.. ehhe you migth not udnerstand.. lols

If dogs have a 30 minute memory capacity how can they remember their names.

[Sumiaki]

^animals don't matter. They are here for me to eat, and for me to find cures for dieases.

Humans are actual people, who have a voice who need problems solved

Agreeed.

Because of Darwinism.. survival of the fittest.. its biological

Exactly.

really huh? because you obviously didnt know that HUMANS ARE ANMIALS!

Sure we are, we're just on the top of the food chain and more technologically advanced. Would you rather sacrifice a human life or a animal?

D00d.. animals are people, too.

How would you like being tested on just because you were more innocent than another being?!

That would effing suck..

Ermm.. who said we test on animals cuz their innocent? What animal is more innocent than another? Are you saying we should leave all the cute bunnies alone and use ugly animals? We BREED animals for testing too. So to me they have no rights. The same thing as breeding animals to eat. Well, what should we test on then? The air? Or how about plants?

To me, to have rights, you need to understand them.

[kraziegrl]

If dogs have a 30 minute memory capacity how can they remember their names.

i never said 30 minutes.. i said 30 seconds. i dont noe if its true, and they might not and you may just think it is. i mean i can call anydog popcorn, which isnt its name and theyd look at me. why is that? i dunno.. but they do remmeber soem thigns by seeing it i guess. im not a scientist.. i dunno >_>

[DavidxN]

i bet the ppl that are against animal testing didn't think about the daily things they wear or consume. I bet more than %50 of those are from animals or were tested on animals.

[bigpoppaproppy]

well if it's so cruel to test things on animals then we should test things on humans, right? but wouldn't that be cruel to humans? so which do you prefer? cruelty to animals or humans?

i hate peta. they kill more animals than they save and look like idiots doing it.

peta is a worthless bunch of idiots

[bigpoppaproppy]

i never said 30 minutes.. i said 30 seconds. i dont noe if its true, and they might not and you may just think it is. i mean i can call anydog popcorn, which isnt its name and theyd look at me. why is that? i dunno.. but they do remmeber soem thigns by seeing it i guess. im not a scientist.. i dunno >_>

so i guess every dog naturally knows how to sit/beg/lay/shake/rollover/etc

and thats how police can teach k9's to do drug and bomb searches right?

common sense.....

[DisneyPrincessKa...]

I'm bringing religion into this for a point, but lets not make this into a religion debate.

In the Bible it says that animals are here for our use.

We happen to be at the top of the food chain. Go us. If we weren't then we'd have little pillows with our names on them. Also, something that sets us apart is the ability to think. We can solve Algebra problems, no other animal on earth (no matter how smart) can do things like that. We're just s step above them.

[EmeraldKnight]

I'm bringing religion into this for a point, but lets not make this into a religion debate.

In the Bible it says that animals are here for our use.

Hopefully that should appease the religious ones..

We happen to be at the top of the food chain. Go us. If we weren't then we'd have little pillows with our names on them. Also, something that sets us apart is the ability to think. We can solve Algebra problems, no other animal on earth (no matter how smart) can do things like that. We're just s step above them. 

Haha, little pillows

Other animals can think as well; and we're not at the top of the food chain, other animals eat us, do they not?

[tsohg]

^animals don't matter. They are here for me to eat, and for me to find cures for dieases.

Animals DO matter and in fact they should not be tested on very cruelly but the fact is that many of us use products that have been tested. More than half of all the make-up has been testes and thanks to monkeys alot of diseases can be cured. The only things that sucks is that sometimes the products have different effect on humans rather than animals.

[Sumiaki]

I believe rights are for any animal that can understand them. We can understand them, can rats? Don't try to rebuttle with "what about mentally handicapped people" because i mean it as a whole. If all animals had rights just like humans, then i guess i can't eat them anymore. Wait... plants are living things too, maybe they should have rights! That way no one can eat anything! [/sarcastic]

[inlonelinessidie]

Other animals can think as well; and we're not at the top of the food chain, other animals eat us, do they not?

Yup, yup.

[rnrn897]

jus the way thigns turned out i guess
society messed up :]
world messed up

[EmeraldKnight]

jus the way thigns turned out i guess
society messed up :]
world messed up

Another one of those
Blame society, blame world, blame life things..

[aud_chua]

i think that humans are sometimes so full of themselves.. haha..!
but uhm.. quoting my grandpa (bless his soul), "humans are the dumbest animals i've ever seen! if you look at a giraffe, the baby will just stand up by its self. human babies take so long to just crawl!" hahaha...! i thought that was the funniest thing he said..
so yea.. that's all i have to say..
i guess it's always about darwinism.. survival of the fittest..

[inlonelinessidie]

"humans are the dumbest animals i've ever seen! if you look at a giraffe, the baby will just stand up by its self. human babies take so long to just crawl!"

That's cute.

[kraziegrl]

we have fingers..

[onenonly101]

really huh? because you obviously didnt know that HUMANS ARE ANMIALS!

I'm classified as a mammal, who cares if mammals then are classified as animals we aren't directly classified as animals.

I'm sorry i don't care for animals dieing if it benefits me. Chicken sure does taste GREAT so does,cow meet(beef),deer meat(bush meat),goat meat(i LOVE GOAT MEAT)... and so on. Animals are here for me to eat and for for me to test medical things on to cure and help humans.

[EmeraldKnight]

I'm classified as a mammal, who cares if mammals then are classified as animals we aren't directly classified as animals.

WTF??? So what are we? Aliens?
Someone didnt pay attention in biology..

[Ze world is a Ma...]

I prefer that they test on humans. Because then people have a voice to protest. Why should something so innocent have to suffer?

true animals....... if only...if only..... animals can talk well they can just in their language that we dont understand...anyway if they can talk and protest to us would we still take them? and do tests for our own purposes? i think so yes

QUOTE (redsoxbaby87 @ Jul 13 2004, 8:26 PM)
really huh? because you obviously didnt know that HUMANS ARE ANMIALS! 


I'm classified as a mammal, who cares if mammals then are classified as animals we aren't directly classified as animals.

I'm sorry i don't care for animals dieing if it benefits me. Chicken sure does taste GREAT so does,cow meet(beef),deer meat(bush meat),goat meat(i LOVE GOAT MEAT)... and so on. Animals are here for me to eat and for for me to test medical things on to cure and help humans.

WTF? so lets say this what if WHAT IF it was all reversed and ANIMALS killed US to eat instead. if THEY test US instead of US testing THEM. huh what do you do now?

[s0emotionalx3]

It's more like a power sort of thing. SInce humans have more powers in the world since we have guns and stuff, we can rule over the animals. therefore we CAN do tests on them and eat them. It's not FAIR but it's just how it is. Im sure if any other animal had the same intelligence or more power than we do, they would do the same to us and we can't do anything about it. And it's not fair but we cant change it

[sikdragon]

cruelty? how can they tell? the animals are breeded to not have more than a thirty second short-term memory. They are also breeded for testing, like the programming of a robot, that is what they live for. They live for the safety and comfort of humans.

[kraziegrl]

cruelty? how can they tell? the animals are breeded to not have more than a thirty second short-term memory. They are also breeded for testing, like the programming of a robot, that is what they live for. They live for the safety and comfort of humans.

yes! that is what i meant!! short term memory.. haha sorry about my earlier posts

i dont think they live for being tested.. its just what WE think, so i guess we jsut did it

[Devastation]

get a clue.

[joethebunny]

I think that humans should do their best to protect animals. But you should always place more value in a human life than in that of an animal. For example, I'm sure you wouldn't like it if your next door neighbor died in place of a squirrel that was about to be run over.

[HelloPunkRockKit...]

^animals don't matter. They are here for me to eat, and for me to find cures for dieases.

Humans are actual people, who have a voice who need problems solved

I think It is wrong to test on animals for alot of the reasons you all have. They do not have a voice, so they don't have a choice...I think that in some ways, they should test certain things on humans, cause then humans would be able to volunteer for it, and it would be their choice, instead of putting a poor helpless animal in the lab.

[*kryogenix*]

i hate peta. they kill more animals than they save and look like idiots doing it.

right on. PETA supports terrorism, let's shut them down

[ComradeRed]

Nature is the ultimate state of anarchy -- hence the term State of Nature -- until everything in nature abides by a single Constitution, nature is in a state of, well, nature, where any action taken to survive is inherently justified -- much like it is in artificial States of Nature such as dictatorships, mob rule, the United Nations, et cetera.

[acidbreeze]

some things you need to do to survive.
if you need to end a life you created for testing purposes, you shouldn't be too happy.
but animals, although being cute and innocent, have a purpose for US. we may be animals but we are much higher than them.

[*kryogenix*]

really huh? because you obviously didnt know that HUMANS ARE ANMIALS!

you know what. why don't you feel bad for the plants. they're living too. the animals eat them.


i eat plenty of meat. i'm doing vegetarians worldwide a favor, i'm taking away the predators of those poor, defenseless plants.</sarcasm>

The lower animals fell into that niche. If you believe in science, then it's survival of the fittest. we're the most fit, we survive.

If you're into religion, God gave us the lower beings to consume. Something like, you will be the masters of all the beasts on earth, air and sea. I forgot exactly, look it up.


that's my two cents.