snow leopard Options

[drinksmokefuck]

for a bunch of mac users on this site, was quite surprised to find out there wasn't a topic on this already, anyways, its coming out tomorrow, only $30, new 64-bit, new quicktime, new finder, stacker, etc etc

so who else is getting it

[brooklyneast05]

i was reading about it today. i haven't even updated to leopard, so i doubt i'll get it. also i read that it won't work on anything older than 2006. i got mine in 2006, but either way that kinda sucks for people before then to know they will never be able to have any more updates

[Jghelfi]

sorry, but imma be lazy and say: "whats the difference in the current OS that was released before 'SL'? like, the features and everything.."

wait no, forget it...i'll look it up on APPLE and do a comparison.
but you can tell me

[drinksmokefuck]

i was reading about it today. i haven't even updated to leopard, so i doubt i'll get it. also i read that it won't work on anything older than 2006. i got mine in 2006, but either way that kinda sucks for people before then to know they will never be able to have any more updates

well, they don't say it, but many sources have confirmed there should be a direct upgrade from tiger to snow leopard which is what im doing

sorry, but imma be lazy and say: "whats the difference in the current OS that was released before 'SL'? like, the features and everything.."

wait no, forget it...i'll look it up on APPLE and do a comparison.
but you can tell me

its mostly performance, but here are a few reviews ive found

http://gizmodo.com/5346418/snow-leopard-re...and-enlightened
http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko...-082609.article
http://www.macworld.com/article/142423/200...html?lsrc=top_1

[Tomates]

apparently the Snow Leopard doesn't support Adobe CS3. A friend was telling me so.

[Jghelfi]

well, they don't say it, but many sources have confirmed there should be a direct upgrade from tiger to snow leopard which is what im doing

its mostly performance, but here are a few reviews ive found

http://gizmodo.com/5346418/snow-leopard-re...and-enlightened
http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko...-082609.article
http://www.macworld.com/article/142423/200...html?lsrc=top_1

AH sweet!
but i dont have a mac..
oh well.. time to get Windows 7 then..

[heyo-captain-jac...]

fyi Snow Leopard is just like a service pack. Nothing to get excited over.

[Jghelfi]

i kinda figured that....

[drinksmokefuck]

for 30 bucks it is

[Jghelfi]

yea.. thats not a bad price for a software.. not bad at all..

[Maccabee]

It costs 10 dollars for me.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

yea.. thats not a bad price for a software.. not bad at all..

Except it's a service pack, something you should be getting for free.

[Gigi]

Snow Leopard doesn't have any exciting new features to offer like Windows 7 does (but it's only because Vista is much crappier relative to Leopard). But it makes little tweaks here and there, that culminate to overall better and considerably faster performance (but not for third party apps...yet). Personally I'm willing to pay $30 bucks to free up some space on my hard drive and have stuff run a lot faster.

Also, it's been confirmed that you can upgrade to Snow Leopard without having Leopard to begin with. Just not by Apple cus obv they want you to pay the extra $120. More here: http://lifehacker.com/5347086/confirmed-29...uve-got-leopard

Frankly there are many other sites that can give you a clear picture of what's new in Snow Leopard so check it out:
Snow Leopard Review: Lightened and Enlightened - Snow leopard review - Gizmodo
What You DO Get in Mac OS X Snow Leopard - Snow leopard - Lifehacker
Apple - Mac OS X Snow Leopard - Enhancements and Refinements

List of applications and their compatibility in SL
Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Compatibility List

According to that list, Adobe CS3 does work, just with some minor bugs.

[Maccabee]

O! And! When you insall snow leopord you can have it not delete all your files and programs. So it really is just an update.

[drinksmokefuck]

Snow Leopard doesn't have any exciting new features to offer like Windows 7 does (but it's only because Vista is much crappier relative to Leopard). But it makes little tweaks here and there, that culminate to overall better and considerably faster performance (but not for third party apps...yet). Personally I'm willing to pay $30 bucks to free up some space on my hard drive and have stuff run a lot faster.

Also, it's been confirmed that you can upgrade to Snow Leopard without having Leopard to begin with. Just not by Apple cus obv they want you to pay the extra $120. More here: http://lifehacker.com/5347086/confirmed-29...uve-got-leopard

Frankly there are many other sites that can give you a clear picture of what's new in Snow Leopard so check it out:
Snow Leopard Review: Lightened and Enlightened - Snow leopard review - Gizmodo
What You DO Get in Mac OS X Snow Leopard - Snow leopard - Lifehacker
Apple - Mac OS X Snow Leopard - Enhancements and Refinements

List of applications and their compatibility in SL
Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Compatibility List

According to that list, Adobe CS3 does work, just with some minor bugs.

so where are the pics of you and christina at

[rnicron]

mine comes today

[Jghelfi]

^COOL!

Except it's a service pack, something you should be getting for free.

wow that kinda is a rip off.. but if it gets really good ratings and reviews, then its worth it..

[Maccabee]

Its not a rip off, for 30 bucks.

[mipadi]

Its not a rip off, for 30 bucks.

$10 if you recently bought a Mac.

[Maccabee]

yup.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/

[Maccabee]

yup.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/

[Jghelfi]

yea, thats a good price.

[rnicron]

i got mine for $10 bucks, but i had to get another for my imac. using it right now.

[Maccabee]

I read the whole features list and stuff. It is more of an improvement then I thought. And when I buy it, im going to start using safari when I dont need my firefox add ons.

[Jghelfi]

i got mine for $10 bucks, but i had to get another for my imac. using it right now.

How is it?

[Maccabee]

If you bought it after june this year.

[Jghelfi]

duh, im asking him how the look and feel is..

[Maccabee]

There are a million youtube videos on youtube of it.

[drinksmokefuck]

if JC ever reads this, the tiger -> snow leopard update does work

[brooklyneast05]

if JC ever reads this, the tiger -> snow leopard update does work

how much does it cost to go from tiger to snow leopard

[sixfive]

30 dollars

[Maccabee]

^exactly.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/170898/tige...ow_leopard.html
If you want to do it legally, then get it from amazon for 150.

[Jghelfi]

WTF?? Legally?
i thought yuo already get it LEGAL when you get it from apple..?

[Maccabee]

it is legal its just illegal to put it on a computer that has tiger. Just like it is illegal to put it on a pc.

[drinksmokefuck]

how much does it cost to go from tiger to snow leopard

30, but i got a few friends who wanted it too so i just bought the family pack for 50, it says it can cover for 5 people, but sure if thats true though

[brooklyneast05]

weird. i swear when i was reading about it in the times it said like $170 to go from tiger to snow leopard and that the $30 only applied to people going from leopard to snow leopard because it was essentially just a refinement to leopard.

[mipadi]

weird. i swear when i was reading about it in the times it said like $170 to go from tiger to snow leopard and that the $30 only applied to people going from leopard to snow leopard because it was essentially just a refinement to leopard.

That's technically true -- but when you buy a new copy of Mac OS X from Apple, you get the full version (not an "upgrade" version, as with, e.g., Windows), so nothing precludes you from installing Snow Leopard if you only have Tiger. It technically violates your Snow Leopard license, but Apple doesn't make you register for Mac OS X, and Mac OS X doesn't have serial numbers, so it's not like Apple would ever find out.

[Maccabee]

^

it is legal its just illegal to put it on a computer that has tiger. Just like it is illegal to put it on a pc.

like i said. But it is still possible.

[brooklyneast05]

That's technically true -- but when you buy a new copy of Mac OS X from Apple, you get the full version (not an "upgrade" version, as with, e.g., Windows), so nothing precludes you from installing Snow Leopard if you only have Tiger. It technically violates your Snow Leopard license, but Apple doesn't make you register for Mac OS X, and Mac OS X doesn't have serial numbers, so it's not like Apple would ever find out.

wow, that's really tempting to think i would only have to pay 30 bucks

[Maccabee]

do it. The specs will be way better. And you can kep your files and applications.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

The specs will not be better, joseph. It's just a service pack, not a f*cking DIMM stick.

[Maccabee]

better, compared to tiger. I was talking to

[Jghelfi]

yea but im starting to agree with butt on this..

it is a service pack cause if you read this:

that the $30 only applied to people going from leopard to snow leopard because it was essentially just a refinement to leopard.

it kinda explains it for itself.

[Maccabee]

Ya well I will say it the last time. It is a FULL OS! Not just an update cd! So you CAN! Install it over tiger even though it is against there terms.

[mipadi]

Snow Leopard is a service pack in the same sense that Vista was a service pack for Windows XP, and Windows 7 is a service pack for Vista.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

No, it's a service pack in the sense that Vista SP1 was a service pack for Vista.

Also joseph, I can install Vista SP2 over Windows 3.1 if I want. That doesn't make Vista SP2 a service pack for Windows 3.1

[mipadi]

No, it's a service pack in the sense that Vista SP1 was a service pack for Vista.

Um, no. I don't think technologies like Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL are minor (service pack-type) updates, and those two technologies alone are probably worth about $30. A complete 64-bit rewrite of most of the core OS is a pretty big upgrade, too.

Besides, how would you know whether Snow Leopard is a "service pack" or not? You're not even a Mac user. By that I mean that updated items in Snow Leopard might appear minor, but are actually pretty important. For example, OS X has long had a feature called Services that is awesome in concept, but not implemented very well. It got a pretty big upgrade in Snow Leopard that is also (arguably) worth $30, at least to some people. But if you're not familiar with Mac OS X, it might not seem like a big deal when you see it in a list of updates. Neither would the Cocoa rewrite of the Finder, but that's a pretty big deal.

Plus, if the reports on the performance increases in Snow Leopard are true, that's no minor update, either.

On the other hand, let's look at the improvements Vista had over XP:

1. New user interface
2. Better 64-bit support
3. Security enhancements

And...that's about it. Vista didn't even include the planned WinFS feature (does Windows 7 even include WinFS?). Yet I consider Vista to be a wholly separate version of Windows, as do most people. So yes, I stand by my claim that Snow Leopard is a service pack in the same sense that Vista is a service pack -- which is to say it's not.

[mipadi]

Slides 12-15 of this Ars Technica discuss two of the biggest new technologies in Snow Leopard: Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL. Both are, in and of themselves, pretty major updates.

For what it's worth, over three years ago I wrote an article that emphasized that Apple should concentrate on underlying technologies, rather than user-level "flair".

[mipadi]

(Finally) picked up my copy today. I'm trying to decide whether I should install it tonight, or wait until the weekend. I'll have to reinstall a bunch of software (*cough* MacPorts *cough*) when I upgrade, which is why I'm hesitant. Oh, and I want to make sure the Perian and Xiph plugins still work with the new QuickTime X -- does anyone have any experience with those in Snow Leopard?