Marijuana is worse than Cigarettes, Uh-oh! Options

[IAmBackMuaha]

Marijuana users suffer from the lungs more than regular smokers, researchers reported in a recent study. In fact, marijuana can cause more lung damage than 2.5 to five cigarettes. The researchers said that cannabis, the plant source of marijuana, was associated with a dose-related impairment of the large airways, causing airflow obstruction and hyperinflation. But unlike cigarette smoking, cannabis was rarely associated with macroscopic emphysema.

Cannabis is the most widely used illegal drug worldwide. Long-term use of marijuana is known to cause chronic bronchitis and airflow obstruction, but the prevalence of macroscopic emphysema, the dose-response, and the dose equivalence of cannabis with tobacco had not been determined yet. In a study were investigated 339 adults, ages 18 to 70. They were recruited from the Wellington region and putted into four groups: cannabis only (75 people), tobacco only (92 people), combined cannabis and tobacco (91), and non-smokers of either substance (81).

More tar, apart from the long-term effects it has on the brain. Many people in hospital with mental health issues have been on cannabis. I sure wouldn't want to become a patient!

[Simba]

kevin's gonna be pissed

[drinksmokefuck]

jason be making all these topics

[IAmBackMuaha]

^Lawl, who' Jason?

[hypnotique]

kevin's gonna be pissed

Yeah OP is just asking to be schooled on this.

Like so re-schooled that all of the OP's Orifices will bleed out.

[IAmBackMuaha]

Yeah OP is just asking to be schooled on this.

Like so re-schooled that all of the OP's Orifices will bleed out.

Researchers and stats don't lie, do they?

[hypnotique]

Researchers and stats don't lie, do they?

your left and right hand don't count as researchers or statistic data.

[Simba]

Researchers and stats don't lie, do they?

yea actually they do :3

[drinksmokefuck]

Researchers and stats don't lie, do they?

http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/viewres...?resourceID=145
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/05/...in4844665.shtml
http://www.mapinc.org/newscc/v01/n572/a11.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...2501729_pf.html
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20...nt-damage-brain
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...mp;type=science
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70417193338.htm
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7723
http://businessshrink.biz/psychologyofbusi...han-cigarettes/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19278130
http://cannabisnews.com/news/23/thread23135.shtml
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blog/2...na_does_not_cau

[IAmBackMuaha]

^^Marijuana use doesn't damage the brain? LMFAO!!! Can't be serious ... Marijuana is PROVEN to destroy brian cells. Hence why all the big potheads in my school have 0.8 GPA's and have trouble remembering things. If Marijuana is so good for you, why is it illegal? I'm sure the Government would look at the articles you just posted and legalize it right away if there were 0 reported deaths from Marijuana and that it doesn't cause cancer or even brain damage and it's healthy!!! If Marijuana is so good, what was the big deal about Paris Hilton and Michael Phelps smoking Mari J? Why did it get so much attention (Magazine, Articles, Newspapers) I thought it's healthy for you? And since cigarettes are so bad, much more worse than weed, all the big name celebrities should be on the cover of a magazine with big letterings, "CIGARETTE SMOKER" right ?? Haha ... hey seriously, why is Weed illegal then? Doesn't cause death or brain damage ... it doesn't mess you up psycologically at all. It's healthy for you and gets you high. Hahahaha ... please, I laughed after reading that link.

You want links?

http://www.jointogether.org/news/research/...-marijuana.html (2007)

http://www.addictionsolutionsource.com/200...ng-cancer-risk/

http://sigarettes.blogspot.com/2009/02/mar...cigarettes.html

http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/news.../0707/pot.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm

http://current.com/items/76069462_cannabis...han-tobacco.htm

[heyo-captain-jac...]

Omit that anonymous blog and you're all good.

drinksmokef*ck still got more reliable news sources than you.

[Simba]

^^Marijuana use doesn't damage the brain? LMFAO!!! Can't be serious ... Marijuana is PROVEN to destroy brian cells. Hence why all the big potheads in my school have 0.8 GPA's and have trouble remembering things. If Marijuana is so good for you, why is it illegal? I'm sure the Government would look at the articles you just posted and legalize it right away if there were 0 reported deaths from Marijuana and that it doesn't cause cancer or even brain damage and it's healthy!!! If Marijuana is so good, what was the big deal about Paris Hilton and Michael Phelps smoking Mari J? Why did it get so much attention (Magazine, Articles, Newspapers) I thought it's healthy for you? And since cigarettes are so bad, much more worse than weed, all the big name celebrities should be on the cover of a magazine with big letterings, "CIGARETTE SMOKER" right ?? Haha ... hey seriously, why is Weed illegal then? Doesn't cause death or brain damage ... it doesn't mess you up psycologically at all. It's healthy for you and gets you high. Hahahaha ... please, I laughed after reading that link.

goddamn i don't even smoke weed, but goddamn

you must really trust the government

[drinksmokefuck]

lol, oh cause because its illegal so it must be horrible for you, guess what shit stain, so was alcohol and women's right to vote, you also realize that a ton of college students blaze right? and im pretty sure they are a lot smarter than you

also, who the f*ck said anything about it being healthy? oh yeah no one, you gaping ass queer

[babecakes]

^ LOLLLLLLL kevin's post is full of hate. HAHAHAHAHAHA.

[IAmBackMuaha]

lol, oh cause because its illegal so it must be horrible for you, guess what shit stain, so was alcohol and women's right to vote, you also realize that a ton of college students blaze right? and im pretty sure they are a lot smarter than you

also, who the f*ck said anything about it being healthy? oh yeah no one, you gaping ass queer

i know a ton of students blaze, it's their choice but if your a consistent pothead who blaze everyday, then it's terrible because it can kill your brain cells, and who would want that especially if your in college? you don't want to experience any psycological problems do you ... at least cigarettes don't cause those type of problems. and can't guarantee health issues like lung cancer although the possibilities are high. blazing is a guarantee you will experience some sort of a side-effect whether it may be decrease in reaction time, not remembering things, etc. i'm not a supporter of either one, marijuana or cigarettes, but from what I researched and from what I know, marijuana is worse. and maybe click on the links I actually posted, they might enlighten you.

[fagget]

^^Marijuana use doesn't damage the brain? LMFAO!!! Can't be serious ... Marijuana is PROVEN to destroy brian cells. Hence why all the big potheads in my school have 0.8 GPA's and have trouble remembering things. If Marijuana is so good for you, why is it illegal? I'm sure the Government would look at the articles you just posted and legalize it right away if there were 0 reported deaths from Marijuana and that it doesn't cause cancer or even brain damage and it's healthy!!! If Marijuana is so good, what was the big deal about Paris Hilton and Michael Phelps smoking Mari J? Why did it get so much attention (Magazine, Articles, Newspapers) I thought it's healthy for you? And since cigarettes are so bad, much more worse than weed, all the big name celebrities should be on the cover of a magazine with big letterings, "CIGARETTE SMOKER" right ?? Haha ... hey seriously, why is Weed illegal then? Doesn't cause death or brain damage ... it doesn't mess you up psycologically at all. It's healthy for you and gets you high. Hahahaha ... please, I laughed after reading that link.

You want links?

http://www.jointogether.org/news/research/...-marijuana.html (2007)

http://www.addictionsolutionsource.com/200...ng-cancer-risk/

http://sigarettes.blogspot.com/2009/02/mar...cigarettes.html

http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/news.../0707/pot.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm

http://current.com/items/76069462_cannabis...han-tobacco.htm

Perhaps the potheads in your school are really stupid, or perhaps you just group a bunch of punk kids together and automatically assume they're potheads, and forget all about the other marijuana users who are disguised as cheerleaders, the pastor's daughter, and football players. Well, actually, the latter is quite rare, since UIL comp. requires drug tests, but there are discrepencies.

Not tryna boast or anything, see, but I'm a daily user of marijuana, and have been for quite some time now, and I maintain a 4.0+ GPA through programs like AP courses.

Perhaps, you should reword your sentence, because no, we cannot explain how all the potheads have 0.8 GPAs. (By the way, 0.8, that sounds absurd. Did you make it up?)

[IAmBackMuaha]

Perhaps the potheads in your school are really stupid, or perhaps you just group a bunch of punk kids together and automatically assume their potheads, and forget all about the other marijuana users who are disguised as cheerleaders, the pastor's daughter, and football players. Well, actually, the latter is quite rare, since UIL comp. requires drug tests, but there are discrepencies.

Not tryna boast or anything, see, but I'm a daily user of marijuana, and have been for quite some time now, and I maintain a 4.0+ GPA through programs like AP courses.

Perhaps, you should reword your sentence, because no, we cannot explain how all the potheads have 0.8 GPAs. (By the way, 0.8, that sounds absurd. Did you make it up?)

uh. no I did not make it up .. a lot of the potheads in my school are legit dumbasses .. in fact, one dropped out a month after school started. and ok I'm not going to go against you for being a daily user of marijuana but always keep in mind that what your using is ILLEGAL and once you get caught it with it, your going to go through some serious shit ... moving onto cigs, they're obviously not good either but according to researches and studies, you don't experience any instant effects .. do you? i mean maybe coughing out blood but that's rare. for weed, whole new different story and you have to agree with me on that one .. cigs = bad but good in a way that it KO's my stress when you feel like your going to explode like a volcano, and police won't do shit when they see you smoking a bogie on the sidewalks unless you look 11

[batman]

Wow, funny. I just came from a wedding where the 10 surgeons in my family were discussing marijuana, how to obtain it legally in CA (aka go to my mom's cousin in LA and tell her you have cancer), and the different drugs MJ was taking before he died.

Tbh, the long term effects of weed on brain cells is so minimal that it really doesn't make a difference at all. :)

[fagget]

i know a ton of students blaze, it's their choice but if your a consistent pothead who blaze everyday, then it's terrible because it can kill your brain cells, and who would want that especially if your in college? you don't want to experience any psycological problems do you ... at least cigarettes don't cause those type of problems. and can't guarantee health issues like lung cancer although the possibilities are high. blazing is a guarantee you will experience some sort of a side-effect whether it may be decrease in reaction time, not remembering things, etc. i'm not a supporter of either one, marijuana or cigarettes, but from what I researched and from what I know, marijuana is worse. and maybe click on the links I actually posted, they might enlighten you.

Yeah, at least cigarettes don't cause brain damage, because I rather take death.

Are you saying smoking cigarettes won't guarantee a side-effect as time increases?

I don't need your links, you as an idiot enlightens me thoroughly.

[fagget]

uh. no I did not make it up .. a lot of the potheads in my school are legit dumbasses .. in fact, one dropped out a month after school started. and ok I'm not going to go against you for being a daily user of marijuana but always keep in mind that what your using is ILLEGAL and once you get caught it with it, your going to go through some serious shit ... moving onto cigs, they're obviously not good either but according to researches and studies, you don't experience any instant effects .. do you? i mean maybe coughing out blood but that's rare. for weed, whole new different story and you have to agree with me on that one .. cigs = bad but good in a way that it KO's my stress when you feel like your going to explode like a volcano, and police won't do shit when they see you smoking a bogie on the sidewalks unless you look 11

So all in all, your answer is 'no'. You did not make up the 0.8 GPA? How do you explain dropouts who do not use marijuana? What else are you going to blame it on? Daddy issues? Or just contact high?

"and ok I'm not going to go against you", Okay, I don't need your disclaimer. I don't want you on my side.

[IAmBackMuaha]

Yeah, at least cigarettes don't cause brain damage, because I rather take death.

Are you saying smoking cigarettes won't guarantee a side-effect as time increases?

I don't need your links, you as an idiot enlightens me thoroughly.

My teacher is around 70 years old, has been a cigarette smoker since 20, and he's in fine shape today. No lung problems, no heart problems, greatly, no cancer! Same with my maternal grandmother and my father. Yes, the risks are high but DOES NOT guarantee health problems. Even less of a "no guarantee" if your not a chain smoker. And like I said, you don't experience any instant effects like you do when smoking weed. Cigarettes just calm you down and relieves stress.

[IAmBackMuaha]

So all in all, your answer is 'no'. You did not make up the 0.8 GPA? How do you explain dropouts who do not use marijuana? What else are you going to blame it on? Daddy issues? Or just contact high?

"and ok I'm not going to go against you", Okay, I don't need your disclaimer. I don't want you on my side.

Still about the GPA ... sigh

your using an illegal substance. end of story. if it's medical marijuana and you got it prescribed, okay. otherwise, it's not okay. just don't be like the idiots here who carry weed in their pockets in town, you never know if it's going to slip out and next thing you know, a police car is right behind you. FCUKED. bye.

[fagget]

My teacher is around 70 years old, has been a cigarette smoker since 20, and he's in fine shape today. No lung problems, no heart problems, greatly, no cancer! Same with my maternal grandmother and my father. Yes, the risks are high but DOES NOT guarantee health problems. Even less of a "no guarantee" if your not a chain smoker. And like I said, you don't experience any instant effects like you do when smoking weed. Cigarettes just calm you down and relieves stress.

When compared to a healthy, non-smoker, how would your 70-year-old teacher stand?

[batman]

*^x2 lol wtf is wrong with you

[fagget]

Still about the GPA ... sigh

your using an illegal substance. end of story. if it's medical marijuana and you got it prescribed, okay. otherwise, it's not okay. just don't be like the idiots here who carry weed in their pockets in town, you never know if it's going to slip out and next thing you know, a police car is right behind you. FCUKED. bye.

Yes, I'm still bamboozled about the GPA, it's awfully low to be considered true. So, when I can find a fault in what you have to say, which is plenty, then I can convince myself that all you can spit out are fallacies that you believe.

Are you a pothead? Cuz you're a 'legit dumbass' too.

[IAmBackMuaha]

When compared to a healthy, non-smoker, how would your 70-year-old teacher stand?

When compared to a mentally healthy, non-marijuana user, how would YOU stand? LOL

the non-smoker would be obviously healthier, but my teacher is still in decent shape. he's breathing fine, hospital visits-free. what else?

[none345678]

Better than you would

[fagget]

Not as healthy, but I'm not claiming that there are no side-effects and damage to my health.

So why are you asking me?

[Simba]

your using an illegal substance. end of story. if it's medical marijuana and you got it prescribed, okay. otherwise, it's not okay. just don't be like the idiots here who carry weed in their pockets in town, you never know if it's going to slip out and next thing you know, a police car is right behind you. FCUKED. bye.

dawg idk why you keep pushing the illegal thing, just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's wrong; sounds more like you're just pissed off at some local potheads



also, i don't do either but i'd take weed over cigarettes anyday

on the list of things people should be worrying about, marijuana doesn't score very high really

[fagget]

When compared to a mentally healthy, non-marijuana user, how would YOU stand? LOL

the non-smoker would be obviously healthier, but my teacher is still in decent shape. he's breathing fine, hospital visits-free. what else?

So you're willing to take back your teacher as an example, because he does suffer from side-effects of long-time smoking?

[IAmBackMuaha]

dawg idk why you keep pushing the illegal thing, just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's wrong; sounds more like you're just pissed off at some local potheads
also, i don't do either but i'd take weed over cigarettes anyday

on the list of things people should be worrying about, marijuana doesn't score very high really

bro let's look at some other things that are illegal. falsifying information. stealing. committing insurance fraud. buying a stolen gun. car theft. blackmail. they're all WRONG, am I correct? they can't be good things. so they certainly can't be right things! OH AND OF COURSE DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS, HOW CAN I FORGET ... AWW ... AND IS MARIJUANA AN ILLEGAL DRUG? yes. so I'm not "pushing" anything, what I'm saying is the truth, which matters! weed over cigarettes arjuna ok great for you, not going against anyone like I said, but just keep in mind everything I said por favor

[Simba]

bro let's look at some other things that are illegal. falsifying information. stealing. committing insurance fraud. buying a stolen gun. car theft. blackmail. they're all WRONG, am I correct? they can't be good things. so they certainly can't be right things! OH AND OF COURSE DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS, HOW CAN I FORGET ... AWW ... AND IS MARIJUANA AN ILLEGAL DRUG?

lol, oh cause because its illegal so it must be horrible for you, guess what shit stain, so was alcohol and women's right to vote, you also realize that a ton of college students blaze right? and im pretty sure they are a lot smarter than you

also, who the f*ck said anything about it being healthy? oh yeah no one, you gaping ass queer

nice reading comprehension skills bro

[drinksmokefuck]

bro let's look at some other things that are illegal. falsifying information. stealing. committing insurance fraud. buying a stolen gun. car theft. blackmail. they're all WRONG, am I correct? they can't be good things. so they certainly can't be right things! OH AND OF COURSE DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS, HOW CAN I FORGET ... AWW ... AND IS MARIJUANA AN ILLEGAL DRUG? yes. so I'm not "pushing" anything, what I'm saying is the truth, which matters! weed over cigarettes arjuna ok great for you, not going against anyone like I said, but just keep in mind everything I said por favor

look, comparing grand theft auto to smoking weed is like apples and oranges, stop sucking the governments dick and realize just cause its law doesn't mean its right, click the first link i posted and read that there is not 1 death directly caused by marijuana COMPARED TO DRUGS that are LEGAL. actually, can you even use an argument without using the whole illegal bullshit cause within 10 years, marijuana will be legal. no one here is saying marijuana is "good" or that it makes you "better" in any aspect, but to claim that weed is bad just cause a bunch of politicians cough Nixon thought it was too "dangerous" makes you sound like a naive and gullible pig

[Simba]

ay this reminds me of illmortal lol

[none345678]

^as soon as he calls someone a f****t I'm doing an IP check.

lol

[Simba]

^as soon as he calls someone a f****t I'm doing an IP check.

lol

[manny-the-dino]

tl;dr


Moved to Health

[livwho]

Mm, what if you like both? Am I gonna die? OMG NOW I'M SCARED.

Lol, whatev. I say do what you want, and f*ckit if you don't care.

[transcendentalis...]

look, comparing grand theft auto to smoking weed is like apples and oranges, stop sucking the governments dick and realize just cause its law doesn't mean its right, click the first link i posted and read that there is not 1 death directly caused by marijuana COMPARED TO DRUGS that are LEGAL. actually, can you even use an argument without using the whole illegal bullshit cause within 10 years, marijuana will be legal. no one here is saying marijuana is "good" or that it makes you "better" in any aspect, but to claim that weed is bad just cause a bunch of politicians cough Nixon thought it was too "dangerous" makes you sound like a naive and gullible pig

yes!

[IAmBackMuaha]

^as soon as he calls someone a f****t I'm doing an IP check.

lol

f****t.

IP check me now. Yeah!

[Tramatize]

Marijuana is PROVEN to destroy brian cells. Hence why all the big potheads in my school have 0.8 GPA's and have trouble remembering things. If Marijuana is so good for you, why is it illegal? I'm sure the Government would look at the articles you just posted and legalize it right away if there were 0 reported deaths from Marijuana and that it doesn't cause cancer or even brain damage and it's healthy!!! If Marijuana is so good, what was the big deal about Paris Hilton and Michael Phelps smoking Mari J? Why did it get so much attention (Magazine, Articles, Newspapers) I thought it's healthy for you?

It's actually illegal because when it got big in the US many mexicans came into america, so Cali. made it illegal, and the rate of Mexicans in amerca actually did get lower. And its a big deal when celeberties smoke pot because its illegal, not because its "bad" for you. And there is a brain cell fueled by marijuana.

you must really trust the government

[emberfly]

it's illegal cuz Harry J. Anslinger is a retard

[IAmBackMuaha]

so are you guys trying to say that

Marijuana is NOT worse than cigarettes although marijuana itself is still bad

OR THAT

Marijuana itself is not bad at all

Charles is confused here. o_O

if it's the first one, then ok, I got you. but if it's the second one, I suggest you go kill yourself right now.

[emberfly]

Regardless of whether it is bad for the user, it is fcking retarted to take away the rights of millions of people. If someone wants to go get high in their basement, why should it matter!? Is it harming you? No. It's no one elses business except the person doing it.

[Tramatize]

so are you guys trying to say that

Marijuana is NOT worse than cigarettes although marijuana itself is still bad

OR THAT

Marijuana itself is not bad at all

Charles is confused here. o_O

if it's the first one, then ok, I got you. but if it's the second one, I suggest you go kill yourself right now.

It isn't worse than cigarettes, I've never heard of someone dying because they smoked 10 joints a day.
and pretty much everything is bad for you, so its pointless saying Marydoyouwanna isn't bad for you.

[Simba]

^ fkyeakidcudi

HE GOT DAT MAUI WOWIE

[Tramatize]

^ fkyeakidcudi

HE GOT DAT MAUI WOWIE

Went all the way to Honolulu =D

[karmakiller]

My teacher is around 70 years old, has been a cigarette smoker since 20, and he's in fine shape today. No lung problems, no heart problems, greatly, no cancer! Same with my maternal grandmother and my father. Yes, the risks are high but DOES NOT guarantee health problems. Even less of a "no guarantee" if your not a chain smoker. And like I said, you don't experience any instant effects like you do when smoking weed. Cigarettes just calm you down and relieves stress.

LOLOLOLOLOL this stupid shit made my day.

I can't say anything that's already been said, besides the fact that you need to do some research about the links of death and cancer to cigarettes. You may know two people who have not suffered health issues due to their cigarette smoking, but that doesn't mean they are in the majority. My mother's 40something year old cousin was a doctor and died of throat of cancer a few months ago. He never smoked, but was around those who did. I wonder how many deaths your teacher's smoking has attributed to in the past 20 years.

[andrewexd]

its called a vaporizer / edibles.

[Tomates]

gonna take the time to read this tomorrow

Im not a weed smoker however i do know a handful of people who smoke weed or do some other stuff. I wouldn't say i agree with them doing it or i guess anyone in that matter but i'm not going to go up to them and assume that they have a low gpa or preach about how illegal it is. I actually know one kid who smoked weed for a while (i don't know if he does now) but he is a real smart kid and always has been. Also cigarettes aren't any healthier. My grandpa died of throat cancer because of cancer and millions more died of lung cancer. So i wouldn't skip around saying how much better it is.
I was going to add something else but i forgot.


This post has been edited by Tomates: Jul 6 2009, 08:44 PM

[ley]

bro let's look at some other things that are illegal. falsifying information. stealing. committing insurance fraud. buying a stolen gun. car theft. blackmail. they're all WRONG, am I correct? they can't be good things. so they certainly can't be right things! OH AND OF COURSE DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS, HOW CAN I FORGET ... AWW ... AND IS MARIJUANA AN ILLEGAL DRUG? yes. so I'm not "pushing" anything, what I'm saying is the truth, which matters! weed over cigarettes arjuna ok great for you, not going against anyone like I said, but just keep in mind everything I said por favor

illegal  /ɪˈligəl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [i-lee-guhl]–adjective 1. forbidden by law or statute.

wrong  /rɔŋ, rɒŋ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [rawng, rong] –adjective 1. not in accordance with what is morally right or good.

^Based on this i would say you are not correct.

It's actually illegal because when it got big in the US many mexicans came into america, so Cali. made it illegal, and the rate of Mexicans in amerca actually did get lower. And its a big deal when celeberties smoke pot because its illegal, not because its "bad" for you. And there is a brain cell fueled by marijuana.

Why must we blame it on the Mexicans?

[mipadi]

Don't be such a square, man.