Michael Moore Options

[Retrogressive]

what do you think about him and ferinheit 9/11?
(please do not flame unless you actually HAVE seen the movie )

[ComradeRed]

Not much on arguments, but it's a funny movie.

[EmeraldKnight]

Ok, this is realli sad.. but who's Michael Moore?

[Spirited Away]

Ok, this is realli sad.. but who's Michael Moore?

The guy who made the ridiculous "documentary".

[EmeraldKnight]

Erm.. still lost...

[kyuubi319]

man, documentary my @$$. all he did was enlarge all the things that made Bush look a little stupid. and if you think about it, bush has done a lot of good things for our country than bad. think about the long term effects of everything hes done.

[ComradeRed]

Long-term effects:

- Biggest expansion of government since FDR
- Made the Mid East hate us more than they already do
- Destablized the government of Saudi Arabia
- Caused a huge budget deficit, that people like me will end up having to pay very high taxes for
- Enlarged social spending more than any other president in history, leading to a bankrupt government, and taxpayers footing the bill
- PATRIOT Act, precedence of which will cause the most harm to America since FDR's "I wanna be Mussolini too" Executive Orders.
- Trying to rewrite history to make himself look like Ronald Reagan, when in fact, he is nothing like Reagan.

Bush has done far more harm to the country than good. Can you name ONE positive campaign promise he made in 2000 that he kept (besides immigration)? The answer is a clear and resolute 'no'.

[EmeraldKnight]

man, documentary my @$$. all he did was enlarge all the things that made Bush look a little stupid. and if you think about it, bush has done a lot of good things for our country than bad. think about the long term effects of everything hes done. 

I notice most of your comments all have some kind of profanity in them.. its good that you have such strong opinions, but please refrain from using that kind of language if you can

[Spirited Away]

- Caused a huge budget deficit, that people like me will end up having to pay very high taxes for

Thank YOU for saying "budget deficit" instead of debt. You're one of the first to make that distinction.

Bush has done far more harm to the country than good. Can you name ONE positive campaign promise he made in 2000 that he kept (besides immigration)? The answer is a clear and resolute 'no'.

What do you suppose, would have been their right course of action?

[ComradeRed]

Um... Bush should've followed his campaign promises... Honesty is always good:

- A "more humble foreign policy" -- his own words
- A balanced budget
- Ending Clinton-era civil liberties abuses
- Lowering government spending
- 4 more years of Reagan

But I was naive in 2000. Should've known better than to think that a Presidnet would actually follow his promises.

[Spirited Away]

Um... Bush should've followed his campaign promises... Honesty is always good:

- A "more humble foreign policy" -- his own words
- A balanced budget
- Ending Clinton-era civil liberties abuses
- Lowering government spending
- 4 more years of Reagan

How many Presidents in history followed through with their promises? I'm curious (you would have to give me statistics because I'm not very good with those).

But I was naive in 2000. Should've known better than to think that a Presidnet would actually follow his promises.

Oh, um, you sort of answered for me... but give me some statistics.

I mean, if other Presidents didn't carry out their promises, what makes Bush Jr any differerent?

[rnrn897]

its a good movie... but.. i think much of it is b.s. -0-;
it blames alot on bush

[inlonelinessidie]

I thought it was a wonderful movie and truthful. Bush did the wrong thing in taking our troops to war for no reason. Weapons of Mass Destruction . . . give me a break. We should've gotten Bin Laden instead of waging war on Iraq/Saddam. Bush knew that it was Bin Laden all along and but never seemed to do anything about it. Sure he sent a few troops over to Afghanistan but I think it would've been better to send all the troops to Afghanistan and find him. Blood is no price to pay for oil.

[Retrogressive]

people have much better opinions than i thought 0.o mostly michael moore bashing is done by republicans who cannot base one thing on a single fact! thank you comradered!

[ComradeRed]

How many Presidents in history followed through with their promises? I'm curious (you would have to give me statistics because I'm not very good with those).



Oh, um, you sort of answered for me... but give me some statistics.

I mean, if other Presidents didn't carry out their promises, what makes Bush Jr any differerent?

Bush Jr. just broke his promises to a much greater extent than most other presidents.

[Retrogressive]

and he lies to the public. its all for oil.

[haejung012]

i think it's a good movie.. it cleary states his reasons and gets people to believe in them too.... i want to watch the movie against moore that's going to come out.. that should be interesting...

[Spirited Away]

and he lies to the public. its all for oil.

I don't see us getting any more oil than we usually have, do you? And if we do get all those oil... is that a bad thing to you?

Bush Jr. just broke his promises to a much greater extent than most other presidents.

But seriously, what did you expected from him? In 2000, I was all for Gore. Not that I thought Gore was going to be a good President, but because I tend to choose the lesser of two evils.

But I'm not going to blame him for all that happened in Iraq and the economy (the latter being the stupidest accusation so far from the general cB public). What's done is done and we can only hope to change things in the upcoming election.

(Of course, I'll still be voting for Bush... but that's another story.)

[ComradeRed]

I expected him to be like Ronald Reagan.

[angel-roh]

hm...he made that movie? or did he said something bad about it? cause i dont know y u guys hate michael moore... what happened?

[inlonelinessidie]

hm...he made that movie? or did he said something bad about it? cause i dont know y u guys hate michael moore... what happened?

Michael Moore is like an independent film maker that has made a bunch of films/documentaries and written a couple of books regarding the government. People are mad at him because his latest film 'Fahrenheit 9/11' is showing how the government isn't as good as most people thought it is. He's pushing people's buttons, but I think he is an incredible person for doing so . . .


Does that answer your question?

[Spirited Away]

I expected him to be like Ronald Reagan.

Why? Did you rooted for him in the 2000 election?

[ComradeRed]

I supported him over Gore, certainly. I would've perferred Harry Browne though.

[Spirited Away]

I supported him over Gore, certainly. I would've perferred Harry Browne though.

Ah, gotcha.

[Retrogressive]

honestly? oil prices go up, he is getting the money blah blah blah look into it my comp is running slow so i can't get into it right now.

personally i was voting for britney spears the whole time.

[Spirited Away]

honestly? oil prices go up, he is getting the money blah blah blah look into it my comp is running slow so i can't get into it right now.

Have you read National Geographic's article about the end of cheap oil era? Not everything is dependent on our policies and/or how or who we choose to fight our wars.

Anyway, I totally sympathize with you and your computer.

[Retrogressive]

actully no i haven't what is it about i would like to understad what you are talking about...
haha seems like were always debating against each other, fae. lmao!

thanks for the sympathy sometimes i look like an ass who can't type because it get all slow and skips every other letter, bleck oh well.

[Spirited Away]

actully no i haven't what is it about i would like to understad what you are talking about...

Here is part of the article. Of course I haven't read the whole thing either, but to prove a point, things usually get more expensive when there's a threat of it being a scarcity.... I don't know, but I'm all for solar energy/water energy (which ever it is... me not very savvy in the ways of science and technology).

haha seems like were always debating against each other, fae. lmao!

It happens... I just noticed that too. Oh well, this is a friendly debate.

thanks for the sympathy sometimes i look like an ass who can't type because it get all slow and skips every other letter, bleck oh well.

Haha, I had my problems with computers ... just remember to create a backup for your files when your comp's acting up...

[gasolinekisses]

::pssst:: hey guys - most of our oil doesn't come from the middle east! ha!

::pssst:: guess what else? iraq is a country that is right in the heart of radical islam. and radical muslims believe radical muslim propaganda that tells them that america is entirely christian and that christians need to be killed. so, if you put two and two together OR you do some research, you will realize that a lot of middle-easterners [especially before the fall of saddam] agreed or agree with the beliefs of al-sadr... who is a bid for power in iraq, so you can't tell me that that anti-american sect of radical islam doesn't exist. these radical muslims wanted to kill all americans because they thought/think we're all christian. so umm, i hate to say this, but, should we have sat on our behinds and let them all kill us or should we have done something to dethrone someone that was spreading dangerous lies and anti-american propaganda? i'm gonna say that i don't want someone in a foreign country teaching their children that americans are evil and all of us need to be killed. say what you will, but what i have said is true.


[in case you don't know who al-sadr is, click here so you don't make an idiot of yourself.]

[Retrogressive]

lol,all true, well i have to read that artical tmw. im guessing it willbe very interesting thanks fae.

gasolinekisses i agree kinda, but you can't totaly group all middle east together like tha its not so black and white. well im turning in more (and better) debating when i am not sleepy, not listening to www.khtru.org , and my computer is faster see y'all tmw. tata for now!

[gasolinekisses]

gasolinekisses i agree kinda, but you can't totaly group all middle east together like tha its not so black and white.

i would agree, but the area that i was talking about and the specific group of people i was talking about go hand in hand.

[JlIaTMK]

honestly? oil prices go up, he is getting the money blah blah blah look into it my comp is running slow so i can't get into it right now.

personally i was voting for britney spears the whole time.

oh yeah.... me too lol.... the world would go corrupt if Britney Spears was the president