should women be drafted Options

[princess2113]

should women be drafted to war?

[*Kathleen*]

Hrm...personally, I think so. Women can be just as strong as the men, given the same boot camp training. I don't see why not. Of course, what would the people back home do? What if a younger couple both need to go out to war? Who would be home to watch the kids? What do you think of the matter?

[Mini]

yes and no. easier to keep the population alive with more women and just one man, yet not alot of divesity. ANYWAYS, i think yes because they are just as good.

[waccoon]

Why not? Women can be just as good and better as men.

[Spirited Away]

I'm kind of iffy on this topic.

On one hand, I'm all for equality of the sexes, but on the other hand, if women were to be drafted, would men stay home and feed the children?

Both sexes have their own role and uses.

[princess2113]

if i were a guy...i'd say draft the women...but im a girl and i DONT wanna be drafted, or worry abt being drafted...so i say no...and i mean im all for equality and men CAN do household stuff...but lets face it...MOST women can cook and clean better than men...its a life fact

[Mini]

if i were a guy...i'd say draft the women...but im a girl and i DONT wanna be drafted, or worry abt being drafted...so i say no...and i mean im all for equality and men CAN do household stuff...but lets face it...MOST women can cook and clean better than men...its a life fact

not really. lol i CLEAN better than any girl i know. that's a sexist comment. heck there are MEN CHEFS too and they COOK BETTER THAN my own mom. anyways, even though its conventional for woman to stay home, clean, take care of the house, and nurture the kids. BUT since that same lifestyle has been forced for generations, that's why MORE girls clean better and cook better than men.

On one hand, I'm all for equality of the sexes, but on the other hand, if women were to be drafted, would men stay home and feed the children?

Both sexes have their own role and uses

i think yes, men would do that. its called responsibility.

[princess2113]

not really. lol i CLEAN better than any girl i know. that's a sexist comment. heck there are MEN CHEFS too and they COOK BETTER THAN my own mom.      anyways, even though its conventional for woman to stay home, clean, take care of the house, and nurture the kids. BUT since that same lifestyle has been forced for generations, that's why MORE girls clean better and cook better than men.

yes i know its sexist...i said they can just most dont

[Mini]

yes i know its sexist...i said they can   just most dont

well yes but still...are you sure most woman can cook/clean these days? i mean trust me everyone can clean and cook if their life depended on it. but why do u need to cook? there's mcdonalds and restaraunts. and anyone can clean.

[Spirited Away]

Neither then.

Men and women shouldn't be (and are not because the draft is unconstitional) drafted.

[Mini]

Neither then.

Men and women shouldn't be (and are not because the draft is unconstitional) drafted.

i agree. drafting is unconstitutional.

[princess2113]

well yes but still...are you sure most woman can cook/clean these days? i mean trust me everyone can clean and cook if their life depended on it. but why do u need to cook? there's mcdonalds and restaraunts.

pshhhhhhhhhh NO...MOST women cant cook n clean these days...still more women then men though i think

Neither then.
Men and women shouldn't be

for ONCE u and i totally and completly agree

(and are not because the draft is unconstitional) drafted.

they can be drafted? just doesnt happen much...i think?

[Mini]

pshhhhhhhhhh NO...MOST women cant cook n clean these days...still more women then men though i think

again you are assuming. i really think gender doesnt imply things, its more personality. if your lazy, then u dont cook/clean as much.

[DesperateXMeasur...]

On one hand, I'm all for equality of the sexes, but on the other hand, if women were to be drafted, would men stay home and feed the children?

Yes men would stay home and feed the children. Why not? Men can do just as good a job as women.

I really don't have a stable opinion on whether women should be drafted or not.

[Spirited Away]

pshhhhhhhhhh NO...MOST women cant cook n clean these days...still more women then men though i think

Then what good is a woman?

Just kidding of course.

for ONCE u and i totally and completly agree   

they can be drafted? just doesnt happen much...i think?

I think the term you're looking for is "selective service", not draft.


EDIT>>>

Yes men would stay home and feed the children. Why not? Men can do just as good a job as women.

Then WHY on earth, for centuries and millenias, did men not help out in the first place? Those lazy babarians!!!

[princess2113]

again you are assuming. i really think gender doesnt imply things, its more personality. if your lazy, then u dont cook/clean as much.

no im not assuming, hun...stats show more men do the working...women do the household stuff...not true in all families...my dad cooks a lot and does a lot of cleaning...personally, i dunt care if my husband does that or not...im gonna have a maid n i like to cook...but still shows that women do more of the cooking cleaning...and btw most maids r women also

[Mini]

when was the last draft? does anyone know..i dont think the drafting have occured much.

[DesperateXMeasur...]

Then WHY on earth, for centuries and millenias, did men not help out in the first place? Those lazy babarians!!!

I know seriously. XD

I only said that becuase, I have a soft spot for my dad. He's been taking care of me most of my life, and has done a better job my mom could EVER do.

[Mini]

no im not assuming, hun...stats show more men do the working...women do the household stuff...not true in all families...my dad cooks a lot and does a lot of cleaning...personally, i dunt care if my husband does that or not...im gonna have a maid n i like to cook...but still shows that women do more of the cooking cleaning...and btw most maids r women also

that's because everyone is a conformist. AHHHHHHHHH! anyways, yeah i hate the fact that most people are following what everyone else is doing, men doing the work and women stay at home. my mom is working her arse off to put the food on my table and my dad is currently unemployed. i really think women are as capable of working, women are strong! lol. yeah back then, men were working because agriculture > technology, medicine, etc. things are different now.

maids are mostly women because males think it is shameful to their gender dominance. AGAIN that's because everyone is A FRIGGIN CONFORMIST and have too much ego.

[princess2113]

that's because everyone is a conformist. AHHHHHHHHH! anyways, yeah i hate the fact that most people are following what everyone else is doing, men doing the work and women stay at home. my mom is working her arse off to put the food on my table and my dad is currently unemployed. i really think women are as capable of working, women are strong! lol. yeah back then, men were working because agriculture > technology, medicine, etc. things are different now.

maids are mostly women because males think it is shameful to their gender dominance. AGAIN that's because everyone is A FRIGGIN CONFORMIST and have too much ego.

while it may be wrong, it is still a fact...therefore, i am not assuming

I think the term you're looking for is "selective service",
not draft.

oh, k...j/p..(shes smart...imma hush now)

[CrimsonArchangel]

I'm kind of iffy on this topic.

On one hand, I'm all for equality of the sexes, but on the other hand, if women were to be drafted, would men stay home and feed the children?

Both sexes have their own role and uses.

Agree.

I'm all for women to have the same rights and jobs as guys and what not, but again, who's gonna raise a family? No offense to guys, and yes, there are many that have excelled at it, but guys are not much of a family builder type.


edit:

Neither then.
Men and women shouldn't be

Reading on, then I must agree with Fae again. Military service should be something voluntary unless there is completely NO other choice.

[stryker76]

Hmmm should women be drafted.....i dun really kno i mean im not against equal rights and such....but i dont think they should i mean....men have always gone to war....women have been the support on the home front....they have been the ones here supporting the troops....which is just as important as the war its self....But then again women is war could dbe helpful....it wouldnt whipe out and entire generation of young men....and it would be less men over all goin....but i dunno

[bigpoppaproppy]

equal rights
equal fights

they want equal rights? they should be same odds of being drafted as men

[emptyminded]

I don't think women should be drafted.. they should just volunteer themselves if they wanted to go. The same thing goes with men.
I found this article about a new draft going on right now!

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.ad...629120109990017

[JlIaTMK]

I dont think anyone should be drafted.... i hate the topic of drafting.... u lose ur family for a while and ur loved ones.... if i was drafted i would kill myself before they do that to me

[EmeraldKnight]

I dont think anyone should be drafted.... i hate the topic of drafting.... u lose ur family for a while and ur loved ones.... if i was drafted i would kill myself before they do that to me

Wouldnt you lose your family and loved ones if you killed yourself?

[onenonly101]

I going to say no because i am a woman and i don't want to be drafted. Women aren't as strong as men. Many women would like to believe that men and women are equal but men are stronger. I have no problem admitting that

[EmeraldKnight]

Is there any more point to this topic? I dont think anyone believes that women should be drafted..

Perhaps as a last resort though

[ComradeRed]

No one should be drafted. It's illegal, it's un-American, it will WEAKEN the army (Which is why the Department of Defense opposes it), and it will ruin our foreign reputation, which is already perilous.

The Democratic Congressmen who support the draft because too many minorities are getting killed should be forced to live in a communist country for a while.

The Republican Congressmen who support the draft because of military strength should go to Iraq themselves.

[Spirited Away]

equal rights
equal fights

they want equal rights? they should be same odds of being drafted as men

Then do you seek equality in for both men and women?

Then give us higher pay! Give us rights in the household and we'll fight your wars with you. Pfft, as if we haven't been doing that already.

[ComradeRed]

I going to say no because i am a woman and i don't want to be drafted. Women aren't as strong as men. Many women would like to believe that men and women are equal but men are stronger. I have no problem admitting that

And you think men DO want to be drafted?

If someone wanted to be drafted, they would volunteer.

[EmeraldKnight]

And you think men DO want to be drafted?

If someone wanted to be drafted, they would volunteer.

Haha Minda can probably close all the draft topics now.. I think he did enough in the previous one

[princess2113]

drafting is a last resort for men, when we dunt have enough ppl...but if i was drafted n i didnt wanna be fighting...i dunt think i wuld be fighting at my full...and if women want to they persue as a job...but what if we run out of men? and y men instead of women?

y close this kinda topic its a valid topic

[EmeraldKnight]

y close this kinda topic its a valid topic

Haha well cuz its Minda.. he's practically memorized the Constitution and has already debated this topic in a previous thread

drafting is a last resort for men, when we dunt have enough ppl...but if i was drafted n i didnt wanna be fighting...i dunt think i wuld be fighting at my full...

Exactly.. very good point there.. I mean, if say, we were invaded, then yes, I'd fight to defend our homeland.. but if we invade some country for trivial or political reasons or something.. heck no.. I'm not going to play servant to the politicians

but what if we run out of men?

Yes, in a very unrealistic scenario where most of the men were killed.. women then should be drafted.. last ditch effort and the like

and y men instead of women?

a. because generally, men are physically stronger than women.. better fighters
b. *cough* sexism

[princess2113]

Haha well cuz its Minda.. he's practically memorized the Constitution and has already debated this topic in a previous thread


Exactly.. very good point there.. I mean, if say, we were invaded, then yes, I'd fight to defend our homeland.. but if we invade some country for trivial or political reasons or something.. heck no.. I'm not going to play servant to the politicians


Yes, in a very unrealistic scenario where most of the men were killed.. women then should be drafted.. last ditch effort and the like


a. because generally, men are physically stronger than women.. better fighters
b. *cough* sexism

Haha well cuz its Minda.. he's practically memorized the Constitution and has already debated this topic in a previous thread

i didnt ask him to debated in here

i think either no1 should be drafted, or both sexes should be drafted
if u put a woman in boot camp long enough she'll get tough
i dunt wanna be drafted, i'd hate it...but i dont think men shuld have to just b/c they are men...i wuldnt want my husbad drafted b/c hes a man

and its not totally unrealistic to say we run out of men...if there was another world war the chances of it happening culd be high...remember that the soldiers can be too old...they cant be disabled...etc...if ur a piolet in the war...there r certain viruses u can never have had...u cant have poor eyesight, etc.theres so many qualifiers, eventually ur gonna have to give a lil or we will run out of people

[EmeraldKnight]

i didnt ask him to debated in here

Ok, that sounds kinda.. impolite..

i think either no1 should be drafted, or both sexes should be drafted
if u put a woman in boot camp long enough she'll get tough
i dunt wanna be drafted, i'd hate it...but i dont think men shuld have to just b/c they are men...i wuldnt want my husbad drafted b/c hes a man

Wow.. that's the first time I've heard a girl say that.. at least in this thread.. i think..

and its not totally unrealistic to say we run out of men...if there was another world war the chances of it happening culd be high...remember that the soldiers can be too old...they cant be disabled...etc...if ur a piolet in the war...there r certain viruses u can never have had...u cant have poor eyesight, etc.theres so many qualifiers, eventually ur gonna have to give a lil or we will run out of people

Soldiers too old... its not like we're drafting retired veterans..
Well.. I'm not completely sure on this.. but I believe most ppl drafted dont serve the air force.. the training would take far too long.. and.. if there were another world war.. I doubt there'd be a world to fight over afterwards.. Einstein once said something along the lines of "I know not what WWIII will be fought with, but I can be sure that WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones"

[princess2113]

Ok, that sounds kinda.. impolite..

sry didn't mean it rude, im just saying if they close it b/c one person knows abt it thats not really right

[EmeraldKnight]

Whoa.. what the heck happened to your post?

well...its true..i dont wanna be drafted...but y men instead of me? i mean this coutry is based on equality and sexism is illegal...but dont we constently practice it by having only males registar at 18 in case there is a need to have drafts

Yeah, I'm not saying its a bad thing

it was just an example, i was just pointing out that we wuld have more ppl if they allowed both men and women...and women have something to offer...for example(it may sound sexist but its a statistic) men usually are tougher, women usually have more sense

More sense? That's something commanders need, the army isnt going to promote drafted soldiers easily.. and besides.. sexism is so rich in the military, men wouldnt like women commanders too much..

[*NatiMarie*]

Equal rights...means that everyone should be drafted. Sex shouldn't matter.

[Spirited Away]

I was serious when I said this was iffy.

Imagine your 30 year old mother being drafted. She's not exactly fit, but she can outrun the lady next door by a hair.

Doesn't that sound a little weird to anyone else?

[ComradeRed]

I saw Starship Troopers earlier. First of all, I think that it sheds alot of insight into the draft and military society in general.

A society with the draft: Like the movie. They send 1,000,000 tiny little footsoldiers with guns taht are like weaker than M-16s against giant bugs. Lots of them die, and the government becomes tyrannical.

A society without the draft: Like America. If we had to fight giant bugs, and we had the technology that they had in the movie, but we only had 100,000 soldiers, we would put them all in the space ships and bomb the hell out of the bug planet from orbit -- many less casualties.

This is true--- in EVERY twentieth century war fought between a primarily volunteer and a primarily drafted army, the volunteer army has proven more reliable, taken fewer casualties, and achieved more efficient results than the drafted army.

In every country where the number of drafted soldiers made up a majority of the army, the only exception being Great Britain in WWI, the government doing the drafting was either overthrown by the soldiers it drafted, overthrown by a foreign power, or severly weakened to the point of near-collapse.

[EmeraldKnight]

I saw Starship Troopers earlier. First of all, I think that it sheds alot of insight into the draft and military society in general.

A society with the draft: Like the movie. They send 1,000,000 tiny little footsoldiers with guns taht are like weaker than M-16s against giant bugs. Lots of them die, and the government becomes tyrannical.

A society without the draft: Like America. If we had to fight giant bugs, and we had the technology that they had in the movie, but we only had 100,000 soldiers, we would put them all in the space ships and bomb the hell out of the bug planet from orbit -- many less casualties.

Giant bugs?? I need to see that movie..

This is true--- in EVERY twentieth century war fought between a primarily volunteer and a primarily drafted army, the volunteer army has proven more reliable, taken fewer casualties, and achieved more efficient results than the drafted army.

In every country where the number of drafted soldiers made up a majority of the army, the only exception being Great Britain in WWI, the government doing the drafting was either overthrown by the soldiers it drafted, overthrown by a foreign power, or severly weakened to the point of near-collapse.

Where do you get this stuff?

And of course, because drafted soldiers wouldnt have much enthusiasm as volunteers.. and thus, wouldnt fight as well

[ComradeRed]

There was a dorm movie night, and Starship Troopers was the movie, and I thought it was the quintessential idiotic military society.

[EmeraldKnight]

dorm? are you in college?

[ComradeRed]

Yes

[EmeraldKnight]

I thought you said you were going to be a senior... wow.. no wonder you know so much..

[ComradeRed]

I am going to be a senior... I'm just in college for the summer so I can see what it's like up here in the Ivy League before I apply for real.

[EmeraldKnight]

Oh.. I see now.. wow..