cB World Language Day Survey, A chance for the mods to voice their opinions to the community! Options

[Simba]

Survey Questions for the Everybody, but Mostly the Mods:
- Do you admit that activity was higher during cB World Language Day than most recent days?
- Was your activity risen during cB World Language Day? (If you posted a lot in this thread, you will be lying if you say no.)
- Mods only: Do you admit that you were wrong?
- Mods only: Do you admit that you blew the foreign language problem out of proportion?
- Mods only: Do you apologize for wasting my time?
- Mods only: Were you one of the few mods who saw the value in cB World Language Day?
- How are the mod/member relations right now?
- How can we improve mod/member relations?
- Mods only: When can we see some changes in who is in the staff team?
- Mods only: Looking at your activity, you contributions, and how well you communicate with the community, do you honestly think you should still be on the staff team?
- In your personal opinion, which mod got owned the most in this thread?
- Did you answer the above questions honestly and truthfully?

[The-March-Hare]

Survey Questions for the Everybody, but Mostly the Mods:
- Do you admit that activity was higher during cB World Language Day than most recent days?
- Was your activity risen during cB World Language Day? (If you posted a lot in this thread, you will be lying if you say no.)
- Mods only: Do you admit that you were wrong?
- Mods only: Do you admit that you blew the foreign language problem out of proportion?
- Mods only: Do you apologize for wasting my time?
- Mods only: Were you one of the few mods who saw the value in cB World Language Day?
- How are the mod/member relations right now?
- How can we improve mod/member relations?
- Mods only: When can we see some changes in who is in the staff team?
- Mods only: Looking at your activity, you contributions, and how well you communicate with the community, do you honestly think you should still be on the staff team?
- In your personal opinion, which mod got owned the most in this thread?
- Did you answer the above questions honestly and truthfully?

I'll bite.

1) I think it stood out more noticably because the threads were easily distinguished, but I don't know how much activity actually rose. Having said that, I haven't been online for most of the day, but from what I did see, that would be my assesment
2) No, it wasn't increased, although it was more concentrated in Feedback than normal. I didn't actually post in any language threads, because I'm too lazy to use a translator that frequently. I didn't spend more time on cB, or post notably more, although the discussion about cBWLD did draw much of my focus.
3) Wrong about what? I still think the use of foreign languages should be restricted in some manner, mainly to official threads. I don't think anyone was wrong to express their opinions, that in fact being the purpose of the Feedback forum. Also, as a sidenote, why is this a Mod only question? Is it completely infeasible for someone not on staff to have changed their opinion, or to have regretted something that they did? Biased questioning, methinks.
4) No, I was civil, gave the reasons behind my thoughts, and will continue to do so when issues relating to cB arrise. Again, though, I would like to ask why it is only mods who could be responsible for blowing things out of proportion. It seems to me that it generally takes two sides to make a discussion heated.
5) Absolutely not. As I pointed out to you at the time, no one but you is responsible for where you post, and you could have ignored the discussion and continued posting elsewhere if you thought your time was being wasted.
6) I don't think it will have any lasting impact, particularly, and it hasn't changed my opinion on FLs overall, which was the focus of most of my posts. If it entertained people for a day, all well and good, but I don't think it was anything more than a diversion.
7) For the most part, perfectly fine. As has always been the case, there are people who are disatisfied, but that's really not new. You can't please everyone.
8) Frankly, beats me. I think most of the issues are personal, and that if people let that go, then things would run a lot more smoothly. Again, there have ALWAYS been people who are unhappy, and that is not in and of itself a sign that we need to drastically revamp the way members and mods interact.
9) When we need to? I don't know. I'm happy with the staff team as is, at the moment, so I'm not personally going to push for changes, but these things are subject to change.
10) Yes, otherwise I would step down.
11) ...None? I think some people, mods and members, came out of that looking foolish, but that was mainly because of their own actions, not because they got 'owned' by someone else.
12) Well, yes. Why would I waste my own time (Note, waste my OWN time) lying to you?

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Well that was fun. Nothing like completing a survey after a discussion. Maybe more paperwork is the way forward?

[brooklyneast05]

- Do you admit that activity was higher during cB World Language Day than most recent days?

i don't really know because i was in and out so i wasn't really paying attention. i'll admit that arjuna's activity was higher than recent days, which is always a good thing. if we were judging based on amount of threads created, then activity was higher. then again, we should probably consider than a good chunk of the threads only got one or two replies.

- Was your activity risen during cB World Language Day? (If you posted a lot in this thread, you will be lying if you say no.)

no it wasn't, but i was more busy than normal anyway. i can say however that i am too lazy to translate all that so i don't think it woulda helped my activity be higher than normal.

- How are the mod/member relations right now?

bad.

- How can we improve mod/member relations?

the staff could reach out to form more friendships/connections with members. then again, the members could do the same. there's no one way street on fixing those relations, both sides have their problems. everyone could stop hating for the sake of hating, that wouldn't hurt. aside from that, i don't really know at the moment. i hope someone has a good way.


- In your personal opinion, which mod got owned the most in this thread?

sorry but this isn't gonna read through all that to figure it out.

- Did you answer the above questions honestly and truthfully?

yessir

[*paperplane*]

- Do you admit that activity was higher during cB World Language Day than most recent days?
Really, not particularly.

- Was your activity risen during cB World Language Day? (If you posted a lot in this thread, you will be lying if you say no.)
I suppose so, but I attribute that more to putting off packing and being on the phone with James than anything else.

- Do you admit that you were wrong?
um...no? I have no problem conceding when I am, but I don't think there's even anything to have been wrong about.

- Do you admit that you blew the foreign language problem out of proportion?
I don't know, do you?

- Do you apologize for wasting my time?
No. You wasted your own damn time. Do you apologize for wasting mine? As a mod, I was at least marginally more obligated to participate in that thread than you were.

- Were you one of the few mods who saw the value in cB World Language Day?
No.

- How are the mod/member relations right now?
Not good, but we can't improve them all on our own.

- How can we improve mod/member relations?
Be more willing to compromise, and we can be as well

When can we see some changes in who is in the staff team?
idk

Looking at your activity, you contributions, and how well you communicate with the community, do you honestly think you should still be on the staff team?
mhm...

- In your personal opinion, which mod got owned the most in this thread?
No one got owned, but wouldn't it be nice if people would stop arrogantly proclaiming their own "ownage"

- Did you answer the above questions honestly and truthfully?
this is a stupid question
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[brooklyneast05]

yo arjuna, i'm reading the topics that you just went back to and posted what they meant in english. you made seriously good topics that would actually be really interesting and "educational". i think your holiday would have been a really legitimate/active day here on cb had the posts been in english. (or the majority of us not been too lazy to translate, i suppose that depends on how you look at it) the topics are a lot more interesting than the majority of stuff that's been made here recently

/spam


edit:
that post is kinda confusing, but i think i was saying that had it been a general foreign day rather than a foreign language day it would have been a bigger hit i think.

[Simba]

Ha ha, yeah, I actually did put some effort into making my topics as well as promoting world culture. Pshhh, and I bet the mods thought I was just gonna spam up cB or that I just wanted attention.

Don't worry I got what you meant. =P

[*paperplane*]

We would really just like for everyone to be able to enjoy your worthwhile topics. Without 17 extra steps. It is that simple!

[Simba]

lol, you know what I just noticed?

Nicki, you should be honored that cB World Language Day will be held annually on your birthday.

[brooklyneast05]

i bet nicki is secretly jumping for joy over that.

[Simba]

*sigh* I would be too, I would be too.

[demolished]

Do you admit that activity was higher during cB World Language Day than most recent days?
Yeah! i havent been more active after a long time. i thought i was nearly giving up on posting ..

- Was your activity risen during cB World Language Day? (If you posted a lot in this thread, you will be lying if you say no.)
YEAH

- How are the mod/member relations right now?
I think its neutral/bad ... but I don't think it's a "very positive thing".

- How can we improve mod/member relations?
I want moderators to realize juna's good intention is to promote positive activity. Honestly, this is the FIRST TIME in a long time that something new and fresh has happen with the community as a whole (not to mentioned many members are interested in this new concept and i hope mods do not fail to see that). This is something the moderators are not too familiar with this new concept of idea. I DONT BLAME THEM FOR THEIR DOINGS. It's not easy to make decisions especially when juna fought back. I understand that.

- In your personal opinion, which mod got owned the most in this thread?
Whatever it is (actually, i'll slightly be off topic), moderators should at least take "reconsideration' if they take the moderator's/community guideline's rules seriously ... they should know much better that juna's intentions aren't meant to offend others in a serious situation or flaunting his stupidity. His intentions are for good and beneficial which many members do enjoy. What is wrong with that? Even if it was AGAINST THE RULES, he justifies his actions through threads and the arguments (which seem to be very tiring through endless pages but i didnt read entirely). Everyone should know juna better than they do Look at him... he's been on staff board for a long time and he hasn't done any bullshit (not that I heard of) however, he had received positive feedbacks as a member AND moderator.

- Did you answer the above questions honestly and truthfully?
DUH.

An addition to that, i had also promoted the day by making a lame topic regarding people's desirable choices in languages.

[moninja]

- Do you admit that activity was higher during cB World Language Day than most recent days? Yes, I do.

- Was your activity risen during cB World Language Day? (If you posted a lot in this thread, you will be lying if you say no.) < Lol. Yes, I guess my activity was risen during cB World Language Day.

- In your personal opinion, which mod got owned the most in this thread? Lol...

- Did you answer the above questions honestly and truthfully? Yes, I did. *raises right hand*

[Simba]

Do you admit that activity was higher during cB World Language Day than most recent days?
Yeah! i havent been more active after a long time. i thought i was nearly giving up on posting ..

- Was your activity risen during cB World Language Day? (If you posted a lot in this thread, you will be lying if you say no.)
YEAH

- How are the mod/member relations right now?
I think its neutral/bad ... but I don't think it's a "very positive thing".

- How can we improve mod/member relations?
I want mods to realize juna's good intentions to promote positive activity. Honestly, this is the FIRST TIME in a long time that something new and fresh has happen with the community as a whole (not to mentioned members are interested in this new concept and i hope mods do not fail to see that). This is something the moderators are not too familiar with this new concept of idea. I DONT BLAME THEM FOR THEIR DOINGS. It's not easy to make decisions especially when juna fought back. I understand that.

- In your personal opinion, which mod got owned the most in this thread?
Whatever it is (actually, i'll slightly be off topic), moderators should at least take "reconsideration' if they take the moderator's rules seriously ... they should know much better that juna's intentions aren't meant to offend others in a serious situation or flaunting his stupidity. His intentions are for good and beneficial which many members do enjoy. What is wrong with that? Even if it was AGAINST THE RULES, he justifies his actions through threads and the arguments (which seem to be very tiring through endless pages). Everyone should know juna better than they should. Look at him... he's been staff for a long time and he hasn't done any bullshit (not that I heard of) however, he had receive positive feedbacks as a member AND moderators.

- Did you answer the above questions honestly and truthfully?
DUH.

Dayum, that was beautiful. Finally somebody who understands me.

[demolished]

Do not be blown away, juna. You still have more things to challenge with the mods. They may not agree with me or you, but they cannot argue the new positive light of your new idea and concept. As long the results are positive, what more can they bitch about?

[brooklyneast05]

Do not be blown away, juna. You still have more things to challenge with the mods. They may not agree with me or you, but they cannot argue the new positive light of your new idea and concept. As long the results are positive, what more can they bitch about?

lol wut? you like didn't even post in arjuna's language topics hardly though did you? just one or two?

edit:
wait, i don't even think you posted in any of them really besides the one you made yourself

[*paperplane*]

Guys...you know what might not be helping member/mod relations? Assuming that our individual dissenting opinions are because we are mods, and not because we simply disagree. Things would also go over better if instead of being "challenged" all the time, things were to be handled civilly on both sides.

[Simba]

Assuming that our individual dissenting opinions are because we are mods, and not because we simply disagree.

Oh, don't worry. I already fully understand the concept that "the mods suck because you suck, not you suck because the mods suck."

I mean, c'mon, I was a mod too at one point and was still able to get along just fine with the community.

Things would also go over better if instead of being "challenged" all the time, things were to be handled civilly on both sides.

If you're referring to the cB World Language Day just now, it was the mods who first went around closing and deleting topics and warning us without us knowing wtf was going wrong or wtf we did wrong (which we didn't do anything wrong).

I still want my warning level lowered.

[silverbolt]

- In your personal opinion, which mod got owned the most in this thread?

Kreios.

By Arjuna AND Javonn lol.

[demolished]

lol wut? you like didn't even post in arjuna's language topics hardly though did you? just one or two?

edit:
wait, i don't even think you posted in any of them really besides the one you made yourself

Whether i posted or not, I did enjoyed the language day because members seem to be posting more which brings more entertainment to the forum. I do hope you feel the same way as I do even if you did not "enjoyed" it.

Even if I made a lame topic myself, i made it clear in these italic texts that I contributed to juna's event.

to answer your question, of course i posted in juna's topic.

[Simba]

Regardless of Steven's actual participation in cB World Language Day, I'm just glad he understood the celebration better than a lot of the people who were going around posting.

[*paperplane*]

Oh, don't worry. I already fully understand the concept that "the mods suck because you suck, not you suck because the mods suck."

I mean, c'mon, I was a mod too at one point and was still able to get along just fine with the community.

You're missing my point. I'd have had the exact same opinion if I weren't a mod. And it seems an awful lot like people who had no problem with before are objecting to me now only because I am one. \

I have not warned you. I have not deleted any topics. It's sheerly my opinion you find objectionable; the fact that I am a mod should be inconsequential.

[brooklyneast05]

Whether i posted or not, I did enjoyed the language day because members seem to be posting more which brings more entertainment to the forum. I do hope you feel the same way as I do even if you did not "enjoyed" it.

Even if I made a lame topic myself, i made it clear in these italic texts that I contributed to juna's event.

to answer your question, of course i posted in juna's topic.

[demolished]

JC, f**k YOU ;[

what's are the differences between KC AND JC?

[brooklyneast05]

JC, f**k YOU ;[

it's alright my

[demolished]

arent you suppose to post a black one?

[brooklyneast05]

arent you suppose to post a black one?

no cause you aren't black. (unless you are and that would be crazy!)

[moninja]

what's are the differences between KC AND JC?

lol@what's are..KC and JC are two different people.

[Simba]

You're missing my point. I'd have had the exact same opinion if I weren't a mod.

Did I not just confirm that I understood that?

And it seems an awful lot like people who had no problem with before are objecting to me now only because I am one. \

a) people thought you were going to be a good mod, but found out otherwise
b) they didn't care about you
c) they lied

I have not warned you. I have not deleted any topics. It's sheerly my opinion you find objectionable; the fact that I am a mod should be inconsequential.

I don't mind if you weren't the one who warned me or not. You have the powers to lower my warning level, and I want it lowered, please.

[demolished]

OH SHIT. I THOUGHT THEY WERE THE SAME PEOPLE. OH CRAP. I COMBINED THOSE TWO.

NOW I'M CONFUSED ...

ARE THEY BOTH BROTHERS?

[Simba]

ALL BLACK PEOPLE LOOK ALIKE



even on the internet

[brooklyneast05]

OH SHIT. I THOUGHT THEY WERE THE SAME PEOPLE. OH CRAP. I COMBINED THOSE TWO.

NOW I'M CONFUSED ...

ARE THEY BOTH BROTHERS?

kc is my brotha but he isn't my brother, you know ?

[demolished]

^
okay. np. sorry

ALL BLACK PEOPLE LOOK ALIKE



even on the internet

but .. one is light skinned and the other is probably dark skinned ?

[Simba]

Please stay on topic, everyone.

Fill out my survey, please.

but .. one is light skinned and the other is probably dark skinned ?

One is Black, and one is not really Black.

JC is the Black one. KC isn't really Black.

[brooklyneast05]

[Simba]

Thank you, your time will be much appreciated, sir.

[brooklyneast05]

arjuna is the martin luther king jr of cb maybe

[Simba]

Oh shoot, so then who's the James Earl Ray of cB?

*looks over shoulder*




*looks over shoulder*

[brooklyneast05]

good question

[Simba]

Mods only: Do you admit that you were wrong?
Not exactly sure what I'm wrong about, your warning level? No. That cb world language day spread cultural awareness? No. The feedback topic was a waste of everyone's time? No. Point me in the right direction, Arjuna.

Did you just say that you thought that I should have been warned and that cB World Language Day did not spread cultural awareness? Sorry I didn't really get that part either.

[Simba]

Oh, I see.

*shrug* Just make a list of stuff you were wrong about, I guess.

[demolished]

Mods only: Were you one of the few mods who saw the value in cB World Language Day?
Didn't participate in CBWLD. Sorry.

Whether you participate or not you SHOULD know the value by detecting activeness. Do not contradict yourself along the other question(s) you answered.

The answer to the question is showing me that nothing ever happens even if you did implied or didnt.

[Simba]

How can I see the value in something if I didn't participate in it, meaning I wasn't active during it, just in the beginning and end of it?

Steven wasn't exactly the most involved participant of cB World Language Day, yet he did a good job of seeing the value in it. It's not impossible.

Oh, and I guess Rebs did too, otherwise she would've rejected it like you guys did. And she wasn't even around that much.

[demolished]

Exactly? You don't have to participate it or .. wait till the end of it.

When there's a parade and you're not interested, you know "something" is happening. You should know or feel the effect and causes of these influences. You should know some streets will be shut down. Some store might close down. Most importantly, when something happens, you AUTOMATICALLY DETECT IT(generally). Think of New Year Parade.

[Simba]

OOPS.

DELETE FEATURE!

[moninja]

^haha. overall i thought cbwld was great! i would love to have a second one with more people participating. [: on those that didn't participate/weren't around

[demolished]

^
Yeah, it's nice to have a community life when there's an exciting event coming up ... and people would just lighten up and enjoy it. after all, it's once in a lifetime experience.

[Simba]

after all, it's once in a lifetime experience.

It's gonna be an annual experience now.

[moninja]

It's gonna be an annual experience now.

like those ikea commercials :O they only show them like twice a year. haha.

and we should have some time to 'prepare' / get more people to join in on cbwld. no english ;D and don't be lazy to look up a translator online x] speaking of that, we should have a topic containing links to translators

[Simba]

like those ikea commercials :O they only show them like twice a year. haha.

and we should have some time to 'prepare' / get more people to join in on cbwld. no english ;D and don't be lazy to look up a translator online x] speaking of that, we should have a topic containing links to translators

Word, we'll be better prepared next year, like how China prepared for the Olympics.

[DoubleJ]

Survey Questions for the Everybody, but Mostly the Mods:
- Do you admit that activity was higher during cB World Language Day than most recent days?
I think it was more or less. I think that the actual inclusion of it, with the start of the Olympics, was sort of cool.

- Was your activity risen during cB World Language Day? (If you posted a lot in this thread, you will be lying if you say no.)

- Mods only: Do you admit that you were wrong?
No lol!

- Mods only: Do you admit that you blew the foreign language problem out of proportion?
No lol!

- Mods only: Do you apologize for wasting my time?
Definitely not!

- Mods only: Were you one of the few mods who saw the value in cB World Language Day?
Yes I was, and I actually enjoyed it. Sorry if I couldn't participate more though.

- How are the mod/member relations right now?
I think that as of this writing, they can be improved.

- How can we improve mod/member relations?
I thinkt that we have to just try to agree to disagree on certain issues. Also I think that both sides need to try to be a bit more open minded on certain issues. Just like the members think that there are certain mods that are full of themselves, I know of a few members that aren't particularly all peachy either.

- Mods only: When can we see some changes in who is in the staff team?
I am not sure about that one.

- Mods only: Looking at your activity, you contributions, and how well you communicate with the community, do you honestly think you should still be on the staff team?
Yes I do. I feel as though I have a lot more to give to the site. Although some of my ideas, and actions may have been wrong, my heart is always in the right place...and that is trying to make things more enjoyable for staff and members alike.

- In your personal opinion, which mod got owned the most in this thread?

- Did you answer the above questions honestly and truthfully?
As I always would!

[Simba]

Ha ha, I almost forgot about this with all the recent events. Thanks for filling out the survey!

[DoubleJ]

Not a problem.

[superstitious]

Survey Questions for the Everybody, but Mostly the Mods:
Do you admit that activity was higher during cB World Language Day than most recent days?

Unfortunately, I was unable to be here for most of it. After warming up to the idea, I posted in Spanish and in French once. It was embarrassing because I had to use a translator and had no idea if I was typing correctly. lol

Was your activity risen during cB World Language Day?

Mine didn't, but I was called into work unfortunately.

Mods only: Do you admit that you were wrong?

Me? Wrong? Inconceivable! :P

Mods only: Do you admit that you blew the foreign language problem out of proportion?

It certainly could have been handled differently on both sides. ;)

Mods only: Do you apologize for wasting my time?
Honey, you are posting on an internet forum. Wasting time is implicit, regardless. ;)

Mods only: Were you one of the few mods who saw the value in cB World Language Day?

After I got "It's a Small World" out of my head, sure. :P

How are the mod/member relations right now?

Not so fantastic. I hope we can change that. We meaning everyone - staff and community members alike.

How can we improve mod/member relations?

If I had a definitive answer to that, I'd love to offer it. I think that being direct with your intentions is a good thing. For example, while not necessarily mandatory, a head's up regarding the language day would have possibly saved a great deal of needless back and forthing. That isn't to say that staff members handled the situation and communicated efficiently either. My point is, working together instead of working against each other is always the best course, in my opinion.

Mods only: When can we see some changes in who is in the staff team?

That's a big TBD. Sorry.

Mods only: Looking at your activity, you contributions, and how well you communicate with the community, do you honestly think you should still be on the staff team?

What's funny is that I actually "stepped down" recently. I felt bad for being so inactive and felt that it wouldn't be fair for other staff members to receive criticism for my inability to be here as often as I'd like or as often as I feel an administrator should be here. I talked to Dani a bit and basically got staff opinions regarding whether or not my staying with sporadic lack of activity was ok with them and if it was, I'd stay. I'm still here, obviously and typing far too verbose responses. If it gets to the point when community members and staff members really feel that being active more is important enough for me to leave, I'd certainly comply.

In your personal opinion, which mod got owned the most in this thread?

LOL Definitely a toss-up.

Did you answer the above questions honestly and truthfully?

I always do, for better or for worse. lol

[Simba]

Thank you for your participation.