Deletion for Mods Options

[Simba]

I think you guys seriously need to revert back to the old rule, where "spam" topics are never deleted. I don't even care if it's mass spam, maybe there's a legit topic you might have accidentally deleted in the whole mess. I even remember back when I was a mod, forums like The Lounge once being gloriously painted in red because of the remains of closed mass spam topics, because we had to close each one.

DELETING IS MOD ABUSE

[DoubleJ]

It was me who did the damn closing and deleting...NOW WHAT?!

[Teesa]

if a mod accidentally deleted a topic in the midst of a massive spam fest, they would just bring it back, right? it would be annoying and a waste of time to scroll through pages of deleted topics when there's really no point in them at all. just chill.

[libertie]

I don't know how topics really started getting deleted in the first place, to be honest. I'm still from the old school of modding (lol) where only ad topics get deleted.

I still say, though, if someone fills the first page of the lounge with spam, they get deleted after a day or so.

[Simba]

There isn't a point to keep spam present in the forums.

You're right, thing is, there's no telling whether or not the mods screwed up and deleted a legit topic. You mods are not infallible. Unless you guys make a separate "trash" forum for the public where we can look through closed topics, I don't think you guys should be straight deleting topics.

but reposting it rather than bitching about it is a better solution for everyone.

Funny, 'cause I did, and it got deleted in less than a minute.

[DoubleJ]

I was told by trish and I saw it backstage somewhere that topics older than 06 could not be bumped. That is why I started clearing the lounge out...my mistake.

[Simba]

if a mod accidentally deleted a topic in the midst of a massive spam fest, they would just bring it back, right? it would be annoying and a waste of time to scroll through pages of deleted topics when there's really no point in them at all. just chill.

lol, how would you do that?

Naw but for real, I got what you're saying.

I don't know how topics really started getting deleted in the first place, to be honest. I'm still from the old school of modding (lol) where only ad topics get deleted.

I still say, though, if someone fills the first page of the lounge with spam, they get deleted after a day or so.

A day or so, that's actually a good idea.

[karmakiller]

If a legit topic gets deleted, it can always be brought back.

[Teesa]

lol, how would you do that?

Naw but for real, I got what you're saying.

A day or so, that's actually a good idea.

oh, haha! sorry, i meant to say closed topics

[Simba]

Stuff gets really confusing when you start deleting everything really quickly. Like, I was seriously wondering wtf happened to the recent topics in The Lounge, I even cleared my cache to make sure.

I still like Dani's idea of waiting for a while.

[DoubleJ]

I don't! If we don't like it, then delete it!

[The-March-Hare]

Mass spam ought to be deleted, it's irritating, inconvenient, and aesthetically displeasing.

I don't personally delete individual topics, but to be honest I don't think it makes much of a difference, given that it can be retreived if need be. Saying that deleting is 'abuse' is slightly hysterical, in my opinion. But I wouldn't mind seeing Dani's guideline followed if there are fewer than 5 or 6 topics or so.

[Simba]

Ok guys, I think we've come to an agreement.

"Spam" need to be closed for at least 24 hours before it can be deleted.

Write in the Moderator Guidelines, the lawbooks, the constitution, go go go!

[libertie]

I have no problem with that.

I do want to say, though, as a compromise, if the spam accumulates to one page or more per spam period, it gets deleted.

[Simba]

Eh, what the heck, go for it.

[hi-res]

Does this apply to that gross kind of mass porn, for instance, of a girl defecating in a man's face?

Does anyone besides me have horrid memories of that spam fest? *shudders*

[libertie]

Oh god. >.<

Porn is automatically deleted, just so that can't be used as a loophole.

I am for sure not going in and editing out every instance of porn when I can just delete the posts. xD

[Simba]

Does this apply to that gross kind of mass porn, for instance, of a girl defecating in a man's face?

Does anyone besides me have horrid memories of that spam fest? *shudders*

lol aye, when bodybuilding forums raided cB, I actually had to make an account their and be all diplomatic and talk to the admin and all that junk.


Porn automatically gets deleted anyway, don't it? =P

Porn is automatically deleted, just so that can't be used as a loophole.

NEBERMIND

[The-March-Hare]

I have no problem with that.

I do want to say, though, as a compromise, if the spam accumulates to one page or more per spam period, it gets deleted.

I think it should be less than that. I mean, 15 topics is still a big chunk of the first page. Also, not everyone sees the same number of topics per page, so that could ge thairy as a definition.

Also, this would not apply to ads, either, correct?

[libertie]

Yeah, ads will always be auto-deleted.

15 topics is fine with me.

[Simba]

I'm down.

[libertie]

Kay, let's do it then.

*stamp of approval*

[demolished]

There are two types of spam topics.

One is good spam. One is stupid spam.

i would delete the stupid spam compose of advertisement from a person who comes out of no where.

a "good" spam would be bashing, member hate, good discussion leads to spam, and drama.

THAT'S JUST ME.

[Simba]

Aye, so just now, starting with the eFamily threads, cB was the most active it's been the whole day, eh.

EVEN KIERA CAME BACK

[libertie]

As a direct result, I'm sure.

[The-March-Hare]

Ugh. People are going to try and be funny by spamming in sets of 14, aren't they? Well, that'll be fun.

Ah well.

[libertie]

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NOTE ABOUT DELETING TOPICS (ADDED 08.07.08):
Topics/posts containing advertisements or porn can be deleted immediately.
Spam topics must be closed for at least 24 hours before deleting them. Use your judgment, if it's just one or a couple of topics, leave them closed. If it's several, you may delete them (after 24 hours). The only time it is acceptable to delete spam topics without waiting is if they are posted in bulk, as in 15 or more.
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[rnicron]

wtf at using "trish told me to"?

[superstitious]

I was told by trish and I saw it backstage somewhere that topics older than 06 could not be bumped. That is why I started clearing the lounge out...my mistake.

I understand the confusion but I've never been under the impression that even old bumped topics should be deleted. Closed perhaps but not deleted. If you ask me (not that anyone did lol), strict strict rules about bumping topics is pretty silly. The only time I've ever really taken issue with old topics being bumped is when the topic is entirely obsolete (for example, if someone is asking what they should wear for their 16th birthday party, which was two years ago and someone offering advice today. That just doesn't make any sense to me).

Like Dani, I was sort of brought up with the "don't delete unless it's ads" school of modding.

I like the 24 hour rule and have added it to the moderator guidelines (which need to be reviewed and updated a bit anyway).

[Simba]

Hey guys, this new guideline should only apply to "useless" spam. I don't want to see every closed topic getting deleted now.

wtf at using "trish told me to"?

lol...

[karmakiller]

Same issue about deleting/closing threads was brought up here. Plus, Backstage I advised Javonn not to delete spam topics, just to close them.

[DoubleJ]

Oh God hop the f**k off. Yes I deleted the topics last night, as a way to be funny.

[rnicron]

Oh God hop the f**k off. Yes I deleted the topics last night, as a way to be funny.

is this supposed to be like the failed april fools day joke?

[superstitious]

Opened until OP has a chance to review and respond.

[Simba]

lol y'all goin' close crazy these days


I'll review it a little later, I'm busy at the moment.

[karmakiller]

Just to let you all know, Tung asked me to remove his topic.

[Simba]

لول طيب ، كنت على وشك ان اقول...

[Simba]

Should I have even bothered with this rule? You guys already broke it.

[Simba]

Alright, I'm cool with the new deletion rule, but please keep this in mind too:

Hey guys, this new guideline should only apply to "useless" spam. I don't want to see every closed topic getting deleted now.

Oh, and while you close and move this, could you move my other closed topic to Feedback too, please?
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=207108

[superstitious]

Gotcha.

PM an Admin or Head Staff member if this needs to be revisited. I'll move the other thread.