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post Jun 26 2004, 06:23 PM
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what would be the best way to solve the obesity problem in the US?
 
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post Jun 26 2004, 06:38 PM
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uh...Well it's kind of the parent's fault at times.
At school: Offer lunches that are less in fact. More rigorous PE (hehe, doctor's not to excuse running the mile =] )

um...*thinks*
I'll get back to that.
 
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post Jun 26 2004, 06:39 PM
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i think that's a personal issue ;o there are gyms everywhere, and people are free to join. perhaps the only thing that can be done in a big scale is to lower gym fees? haha.. but even if you don't join a gym, you can just jog on the street or park, or even work out at home.. some people would probably blame it on the fast food restaurants everywhere, but people should be free to eat whatever they want. i mean, even chinese food can make you fat, haha.. it just depends on the individual.. s/he should know how to stay healthy. s/he shouldn't be lazy to stay healthy haha.. i know i'm such a lazy ass ;x i should follow my own advice.
 
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post Jun 26 2004, 06:41 PM
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Make physical education compulsary (and strict!) and have it minimum 2 times a week. Healthier food in cafetaria..more awareness education about the dangers of obesity etc. and of coure the benefits of being healthy and in the "recommended" weight range.
 
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post Jun 26 2004, 10:48 PM
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Take all the junk food out of school....stop feeding kids school food.....more mandatory physical education....ROTC(mandatory)......and parents need to pay attention to what there kids do an regulate them.
 
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post Jun 26 2004, 10:50 PM
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less fast food like mickey d
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 12:45 AM
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take away TV and comp!! so people would have to go outside to find entertainment. Ha-hA! everyone wants to hurt me now huh? ermm.gif
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 12:47 AM
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Ban TV from the U.S. We all know TV is evil, anyways.
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 11:03 AM
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+ Make extracurricular activities involvement a requirement for graduation (drag kids away from TVs and comps for a period of time).
+ Less "snack machines" in schools.
+ Offer more savory salad school lunch trays.
+ Stricter PE classes and have more team games like flag football, soccer, and basketball (when I was in high school, all i had to do was about 20 jumping jacks and 20 push ups, that's all. Then it was social time for the rest of the period).
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 27 2004, 10:03 AM)
+ Make extracurricular activities involvement a requirement for graduation (drag kids away from TVs and comps for a period of time).
+ Less "snack machines" in schools.
+ Offer more savory salad school lunch trays.
+ Stricter PE classes and have more team games like flag football, soccer, and basketball (when I was in high school, all i had to do was about 20 jumping jacks and 20 push ups, that's all. Then it was social time for the rest of the period).

i agree with you. those are the best ways, well thats i think, to help to solve the obesity problem. but just because ur lunch choices are limited in school and you have to exercise in school doesn't mean that they're doing the same thing outside of school.
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 12:18 PM
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It's called exercise.
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Lordofgames @ Jun 27 2004, 12:18 PM)
It's called exercise.

yea, and learn that too much of anything is not a good idea.

this might be insensitive, but i think people that are over-weight only have themselves to blame, no one can make them eat, they put the food in their own mouths. People just need to practice self-control, if you eat then exercise, you are not going to be fat, that's just a fact of life.
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 03:15 PM
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hmm... i dont want the tvs to be gone... cause then life will be boring without watching entertainment stuff... and the news...hehe newais hmm... and having sweet, junk foods are ok.... i dont think that shud be taken away. but i think...they should have a treatment for obesity...so they can learn not to eat a lot of junk foods every day and nite. kinda like a boot camp u know watta my sayin`?
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 03:16 PM
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hey well id rather lose tv den cB heh susan ya..
 
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post Jun 28 2004, 12:47 PM
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get rid of burger king and put burger free with only healthy food
 
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post Jun 28 2004, 08:58 PM
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Ive been over the country and Ive yet to see a real "problem" with obesity.

I dont know what you COULD do. Apparently the media perpetuates this ideal which you must be skinny to fit in. If that kind of pressure isnt working, I dont know what will.

There is always ways around exercise and eating healthy. There are always ways around gym classes and the like. You cant really change things without having an environment which demanded physical capabilities. Like the stone age or something.
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 12:01 AM
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Ive been over the country and Ive yet to see a real "problem" with obesity

Oh realli? Just the other day I saw on the news.. a report saying how obesity is quickly climbing the charts in the US as one of the leading killers along with lung cancer (some cancer or other..); now if that's not a problem.. then please.. do enlighten me..

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I dont know what you COULD do. Apparently the media perpetuates this ideal which you must be skinny to fit in. If that kind of pressure isnt working, I dont know what will.

There is always ways around exercise and eating healthy. There are always ways around gym classes and the like. You cant really change things without having an environment which demanded physical capabilities. Like the stone age or something.

Yes, you named things to do.. too many school cafeterias serve too much junk food.. that needs to be changed.. physical education should be required.. because though some people get exercise on their own.. quite a few others do not.. I mean.. part of obesity is genetic.. but a lot of it is in lifestyle.. you could also implement instruction programs on eating healthy.. though I'm not sure what good that would do.. the main thing is.. that the individual must take an active part.. they themselves must force a change.. in order to see one
 
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QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Jun 28 2004, 8:58 PM)
Ive been over the country and Ive yet to see a real "problem" with obesity.

A prime example of someone who should read up before they speak

im too tired to post up, but i have notebooks FULL of stuff specifically about the obesity problem...comes from being a senior in college in a Health and Fitness degree
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 09:19 AM
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its all b/c of 2 words:fast food
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 10:19 AM
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educate the public, make PE mandetory, and make the nutritious food in cafs more appetizing
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 11:09 AM
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People are obese because they are lazy. That is their own decision because if it weren't we'd all be obese because of the food and lazy oppertunities around us. I am sick of people trying to blame their obesity on Mc Donalds, you are the one who chooses to spend your money and buy that food.

The only America needs to do is stop pumping so many hormones in the chicken.


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Yes, you named things to do.. too many school cafeterias serve too much junk food.. that needs to be changed


But their is the option of getting a chicken salad or a regular salad or a turkey sandwhich, all for the same price.

It is called self-control. People need to learn how to accomplish it.
 
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 3 2004, 11:09 AM)
It is called self-control. People need to learn how to accomplish it.

Too true, but how much self-control can we expect in a kid? I think our kids are the main reason why there's such emphasis on obesity now days.
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 12:33 PM
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We can't expect much self-control in a kid, but there are parents that can help accomplish that task. Many parents just let their kids eat whatever they want, and stockload their cabinets with unhealthy foods. Parents...are somewhat the blame to their children's obesity.
 
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QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jul 3 2004, 12:33 PM)
We can't expect much self-control in a kid, but there are parents that can help accomplish that task. Many parents just let their kids eat whatever they want, and stockload their cabinets with unhealthy foods. Parents...are somewhat the blame to their children's obesity.

Ah, we're back to the irresponsible parents part, which is totally true.

But if I'm a single Mom and work 24/7 to support my family, and I give my kid about 2.oo everyday for lunch asking him/her to buy something healthy. I'm sure that simply asking isn't going to help him/her make her decision in eating healthy.

Parents are partly why kids are obese, agreed, but kids still need self-control... which is kind of... hard to get from them.
 
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Of course kids need self-control and it's difficult to get that into them, but Parents are slightly a big influence in them. For me, my mom has always taught me what's healthy and what's not. I mean, it's so instilled in my head that if I get tempted to eat something unhealthy...I just deny it. Even since I was young because I would feel guily laugh.gif (I still do).
Another factor are schools of course. The majority of children's influence come from their teachers and school. If schools offer these fattening foods, there are higher chances for an increase in obesity. In elementary school, most of the food is high in fat.
 
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QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jul 3 2004, 12:41 PM)
In elementary school, most of the food is high in fat.

Don't I know it... I just have to look at the kids in my neighborhood...........
 
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 3 2004, 9:43 AM)
Don't I know it... I just have to look at the kids in my neighborhood...........

Haha...yeah
Me too, they're all pretty chubby and then laziness starts occuring in Elementary school. Slowly it adapts into their lifestyle. Kids start disliking PE in elementary...I remember I did, but I'm not obese. I now work out and stuff, well mostly because of my mom. She has another big influence in me.

Yesterday, as I was waiting in the Spider Man 2 line ( laugh.gif ), I saw a family of 3. The father was obese and he had two sons. They were also obese and I saw how they were munching down on popcorn (bigger than the size I got) and candy...it was just, wow.

Haha, I don't know why I said that, but I just saw them eating away and there their father was eating along with them.

It was a bad sight.
 
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QUOTE(Senorita_Babo @ Jun 27 2004, 9:41 AM)
yea, and learn that too much of anything is not a good idea.

this might be insensitive, but i think people that are over-weight only have themselves to blame, no one can make them eat, they put the food in their own mouths. People just need to practice self-control, if you eat then exercise, you are not going to be fat, that's just a fact of life.

Yea, i mean no one is forcing you to go and eat fast food. You can always just go run around the block and stuff.
 
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Let all the fat people kill themselves, and let the rest of us watch and laugh.
 
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 3 2004, 9:35 PM)
Let all the fat people kill themselves, and let the rest of us watch and laugh.

Oh boy, aren't you the humanitarian. tongue.gif
 
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no more fast food
 
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 3 2004, 9:40 PM)
Oh boy, aren't you the humanitarian. tongue.gif

I think that it's better for human rights to let people do what they want -- and suffer the consequences -- than to tell people what they can and cannot eat.
 
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 3 2004, 9:58 PM)
I think that it's better for human rights to let people do what they want -- and suffer the consequences -- than to tell people what they can and cannot eat.

sure, and they do as they want until they die... i guess population control is a good humanitarian cause. (no sarcasm, trust me)
 
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I think that it's better for human rights to let people do what they want -- and suffer the consequences -- than to tell people what they can and cannot eat.

Mm.. I think they should tell them what to eat, but not force them to eat it.. inform the people, but give them the choice
 
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forciblly enforce a drought by taxing all food 300000% the rise of the gardens!!
 
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Make physical education compulsary (and strict!) and have it minimum 2 times a week.


That's it? My school has it every day. 5 unprepareds = fail for the marking period = summer school for gym [1 mp failed = 2 1/2 hours each day for 6 days] and the state of new jersey (where I live) requires you to have gym all four years of high school in order to graduate.

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this might be insensitive, but i think people that are over-weight only have themselves to blame, no one can make them eat, they put the food in their own mouths. People just need to practice self-control, if you eat then exercise, you are not going to be fat, that's just a fact of life.


Not necessarily true, some people have disorders and things that make them overweight/obese. And before a certain age, parents are responsible for feeding and making food for their kids. A kid who gets healthy meals and fruit and vegetables will be better off when they're older than one that eats lunchables and chef boyarde.

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but i think...they should have a treatment for obesity...so they can learn not to eat a lot of junk foods every day and nite. kinda like a boot camp u know watta my sayin`?


Well I'm guessing that's what fat camps are for?

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I may be wrong, but I've never heard of Ronald McDonald shoving a hamburger down your throat. laugh.gif
 
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post Aug 3 2004, 03:32 AM
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well its the parents job to feed the kids the right stuff. if the cafeteria food is high in fat bring your own lunch that is low in fat. and its just got to do with being lazy... go for a walk everyday..its not THAT hard.
 
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 26 2004, 6:23 PM)
what would be the best way to solve the obesity problem in the US?

hey kryogenix long time no see ( i dont know if u remember me haha) well I think the best way is to control your eating habits and go out and explore the world more.
 
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QUOTE(xrachx @ Jun 26 2004, 4:41 PM)
Make physical education compulsary (and strict!) and have it minimum 2 times a week. Healthier food in cafetaria..more awareness education about the dangers of obesity etc. and of coure the benefits of being healthy and in the "recommended" weight range.

pe is already 5 days a week.. `nd if u play sports `nd ur in season then ur stayin after school for antoha 2 - 3 hours.. so i think its on the person to get out `nd play a sport.. or sum sort like that
 
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nothin, people are obese because they want too, they just get lazy and put excuses, im talking from experiance i used to weight over 300 pounds till like 2 years ago or something when I remember thsi one girl i liked called me F*CKIN UGLY at the beach, only thing is she didnt know i heard her. cuz she was on a blind date with me lmao, point is i heard hell tell someone that was with us that I was f**kin ugly, i remember that day i left the beach, that minute everyone was calling me back as to why im leaving i just ignored them, and by some luck I passed by this news stand so yeah I start looking at the magazines and i see a magazine called MENS HEALTH, and it shows a fitness model showing his gazilllion pack abs and he was smiling at a beach, and i dunno i think thats what inspired me, then when i got back into martial arts i would train hard, i got into a diet, and id do some of the workouts in the magazine, I am not in perfect shape but i lost almost all the wieght, i only got a few pounds to go, i cant wait!
 
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obesity can be blamed on ppl not teaching kids what they need to know about growing up and their physical health. Also genetics i guess
 
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TAKE THE COCO-PUFFS AND TWINKIES AWAY?
 
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QUOTE(Senorita_Babo @ Jun 27 2004, 12:41 PM)
yea, and learn that too much of anything is not a good idea.

this might be insensitive, but i think people that are over-weight only have themselves to blame, no one can make them eat, they put the food in their own mouths. People just need to practice self-control, if you eat then exercise, you are not going to be fat, that's just a fact of life.

agree.
i never had any sympathy for overweight people. if they are going to eat/exercise like that, their fault. boo hoo.
 
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well, they'll die out eventually. like in 1000 years, all the people who become obese easily will have no decendants.

unless, the world blows up and then, those that store fat well will become dominate.

the government should impose a drought. half the food that the US usually consusmes is to be sold to other nations.
 
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First you'd have to seize it from the farmers, which would require paying back the farmers, which would mean raising taxes. Since the government (and other ogvernments) can't do anything right, we'd be selling at a huge loss, and there would be taxes and MUCH higher food prices -- lower living standards here.
 
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but we wouldn't be obese!!!

we must stop obesity!! it's terrorism!!!!

haha. i don't really think my idea will work. but it's funny. to me, at least. how obesity used to be a personal problem, but it's now a matter of national security.
 

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