Lil Wayne = Phoney., =\ Options

[MiKKiBOO]

Its known that lil wayne became the hottest rapper by using other people's lyrics. Yeah he is the hottest rapper alive [[right now]], but he never uses his own lyrics. Most of his lyrics are from a R&B singer from back in the day. and Lil wayne is really ugly, why do girls throw theirselfs at him? because of the fame probably. but yea. i found that out today.

[*absinthe*]

I agree somewhat about the lyrics thing. I only really like Lil Wayne for his beats. As for him being really ugly, I can't explain that either. Well, people actually do find him (or maybe what he portrays through is music/etc) attractive (obviously).

[MiKKiBOO]

Haha, thanks for understanding. =]

[*absinthe*]

haha.

[dustbunny]

I dislike Lil Wayne and everything he represents: decent music sacrificed for the sake of commercial success.

HE SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS.

So i met this shawty the otha day
I got her number called her up like what you doin she said nothin
I said whats good
She said not much
I said guess what?
She said whats up
I said i think we should hook up
She said uhh
I said what?
She said but
I said but? why you stuck?
She said f**k
I said who?
She said not you
I said then who?
She said you know
I know what?
You know who
I said i do?
She said you do

what the fuck

[AimeeLynn]

Not the best picture but he is one of the best rappers.
His tats are sick.
He has the money to bail himself out all the time.

In his cd, he makes raps were created in mixtapes that were 4 years ago he just didn't have music in the background until now. Now it's on his cd.

"Ya girlfriend and she say I got great sex
Safe sex is great sex
Better wear a latex
Cuz you dont want that late text
that "I think I'm late" text
So wrap it up"

that is sick text

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0bp_-RQA4

[MiKKiBOO]

I beg to differ.
He claims that.
but he is not attractive at all.

[AimeeLynn]

^ not saying he is but he has sick raps.

He can freestyle like no one's deal. Seriously.

[dustbunny]

"My picture should be in the dictionary next to the definition of definition"

lol....

freestyle? that was from his RECORDED ALBUM. if the crap that he records is so .. unbelievably illogical what can he even come up with on a whim!?


I'm sure there are PLENTY of rappers out there who can freestyle better than Lil Wayne

[MiKKiBOO]

Haha. Yeah so I heard. But I also read that Lil Wayne admitted that he memorized one of his so called freestyles.

[dustbunny]

He has the money to bail himself out all the time.

it's embarrassing enough for him to even have to bail himself out of anything. then again..street cred right? luls

[AimeeLynn]

haha because of all the weed the smokes

[MiKKiBOO]

Street Cred? I guess. But I do give him some cred, he started rappin at 15. Bow Wow started rappin at 12. BUT I still think Bow Wow is better than Lil WAyne. =]

[dispn0ygonekrazy]

^ true other better freestylers out there, but bottomline is, he's a big hit despite those things. It's a common thing nowadays to use people's lyrics, beats, etc. in other peoples music. Music isn't as creative in what it use to be. I'm not digging this whole mainstream shit. "Good" Music is hard to find now.

[deactivated]

i like some of his work, but i don't really like the whole "copying the t-pain effect" thing.

[MiKKiBOO]

^ true other better freestylers out there, but bottomline is, he's a big hit despite those things. It's a common thing nowadays to use people's lyrics, beats, etc. in other peoples music. Music isn't as creative in what it use to be. I'm not digging this whole mainstream shit. "Good" Music is hard to find now.

Very True.

[dustbunny]

^ true other better freestylers out there, but bottomline is, he's a big hit despite those things. It's a common thing nowadays to use people's lyrics, beats, etc. in other peoples music. Music isn't as creative in what it use to be. I'm not digging this whole mainstream shit. "Good" Music is hard to find now.

that's how I feel about the music industry in general as of now. anything even mildly tolerable gets overplayed immediately and anything "bad" is continually played since society actually likes the horrible music being played at them.

there are many much more eloquent rappers out there that are capable of rapping about things other than their penises, how much money they have, or some sort of dance move.

those people are so incredibly undervalued.

[MiKKiBOO]

that's how I feel about the music industry in general as of now. anything even mildly tolerable gets overplayed immediately and anything "bad" is continually played since society actually likes the horrible music being played at them.

there are many much more eloquent rappers out there that are capable of rapping about things other than their penises, how much money they have, or some sort of dance move.

those people are so incredibly undervalued.

I agree

[dispn0ygonekrazy]

You go with the flow, and where the flow leads you is to where you make the dough. Good music is generally overlooked, It's like a new standard in the music biz no matter how bad the music producers come out with in the end their just looking for money.

[MiKKiBOO]

And as for Lil Wayne.. he is making plenty.. I just read that he just set a record of selling 3 million records in one week.

[dustbunny]

well I mean it doesn't look like the cycle is going to end any time soon either. in society's defense, how many people are truly going to appreciate lyrical content? most are just looking for something with a loud bass to bump their rides to. if it's not something they can freak to at dances, what use is the song if the lyrics are dark and chillingly real. what good is a song if it can't be remixed with an additional 5 lines from a different mainstream artist to exploit airplay?

[MiKKiBOO]

Actually that is very true, because people complain about Kenye West. his beats ar not all that great, but he raps about real things, basically LIFE. but you dont see poeple bumpin his music do you? No. So without getting off topic here, Its true that Lil Wayne is a phoney, but at least he is still stackin paper? & Its all about what the society wants. Now am I right?

[dispn0ygonekrazy]

^ word

the music cycle is going through many changes, but thats beyond peoples control. It's funny to me, how people change their music taste so fast just to fit in with a crowd. And if you decide not to follow that path then people judge you, and are quick to assume.

[MiKKiBOO]

Very True.
Its like their records arnt sellin if they arnt talking about bootys shakin' and hoes and all that jazz. && especially if the beat aint nice, and I think its real dumb. && when the feemales sing, they are always singing about love, and cheating, and sex, and all that, when was the last time you heard a song about LIFE? a loonngg time.

[dispn0ygonekrazy]

until that day happens, im stickin to my oldies ^^

[dustbunny]

Very True.
Its like their records arnt sellin if they arnt talking about bootys shakin' and hoes and all that jazz. && especially if the beat aint nice, and I think its real dumb. && when the feemales sing, they are always singing about love, and cheating, and sex, and all that, when was the last time you heard a song about LIFE? a loonngg time.

that's why R&B is dead.

[MiKKiBOO]

HAHA

[fagget]

I dislike Lil Wayne and everything he represents: decent music sacrificed for the sake of commercial success.

He ain't the only one, but I seriously dislike him.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT THOSE LYRICS! First time I heard it, I was like "What the f**k was that... He can NOT be best rapper by rhyming uhh with uhh and urp urp with zerp zerp."

[ReggieM]

thats not a good song to base his greatness on. I used to HATE lil wayne so much i thought none of his stuff made sense but i began to listen recently to his mixtapes and he has some clever analogies and stuff.

people dont understand that u need fillers on your cd's and singles to even make people listen to your cd. If you listen to the not mainstream stuff you will hear good music. Just like listen to the not mainstream kanye stuff you will not hear about the "good life". its all a gimmick, people need to make money you know.




"stick to the script like java"

"I got chip from trying to get the whole cookie
Used to make a thousand dollars everytime I played hookie"

"I'm at your door, your face is like why are you here,
Judging by my steel I got something to do here,
Give up the money or the angel cries two tears,
Front of your crib sounding like Chinese New Year."

"if you dont find me in the hood, i aint tryna hide, i blends in wit tha hood im camouflaged."


"everytime i'm tryin to leave, she beggin me to stay but i politely fadeaway like my name was MJ"

Tryna to tell you I can kick it like Lu Kang n*gga
Got the sub zero flow how u on me ma
Make her get over here like Scorpion


seriously for being so "wack" he has better oneliners and puns than any rapper you can name.

[dustbunny]

well I mean personal preference also plays a large part in determining what's "good" and what's "bad". I prefer eloquence and poetic lyrics that flow with the music, lines that create images and run smoothly off the tongue; intricate selection and use of words is what I highly value, but not that's not what everyone else likes. Some people prefer witty lines, others analogies or metaphors. Some people can say they're the best rapper alive not by blatantly stating that but by spinning out words that sound aesthetically pleasing, or by displaying a broad range of vocabulary and clever diction.

personally the "I'm like a bomb tick tick" whatever just doesn't do it for me, and that's really just my personal preference in the end.

I just find Lil Wayne's diction and word choice crude and average.

[ReggieM]

woahh coming in with the big words.I get what ur saying. But who IS the best rapper then.

like how classical music lovers arent going to request lil wayne on thier local radio station. A nonlistner of rap music cannot be so judgmental on whats good or bad if they havent expirienced all of the types of "rap" as it is. Many people call out lil wayne because he says hes the best, but who doesnt say that? Many dont,but alot do. People like mos def and talib for there wordplay and story like rap. I never said weezy is the best,but i hate when people are so quick to call him out when they dont listen to hip hop.

Who would you say the best tennis player is and why? would someone have a different opinion about my desicion?

Theres really no best at anything.We can only see what the spotlight has shown its light on.

/enddiscussion

[dustbunny]

haha I haven't given enough attention to this specific genre to have the authority or right to give that title to anyone just yet. I'm really not familiar enough with this genre to say anything about it, but because I've been exposed to various other artists, I feel as if other artists have a lot more to offer than the current mainstream chart-toppers. I won't say they're the best alive because I find that title too broad and unfair: there are many styles out there and by best "rapper" what does that even constitute as? good lyrics? good rhyming? but I will say that I respect CYNE for their attention to word choice and ability to mention subjects other than their local street corner.

[ReggieM]

i edited my post haha

[dustbunny]

I don't doubt that he has his strengths I just feel, like you but different in that some people are a bit quick to judge that he IS THE BEST. I may have sounded like I hated him right off the bat but I seriously tried giving him a chance;he's just not my guy.

For me Lil Wayne just seems to show how much the average music listener relies on what is spoonfed them on the radio. Did those millions of album buyers rush to purchase his CD's because of his hit songs on the radio or because of his apparent clever rhymes? I don't really know

[ReggieM]

record sales mean nothing.No matter how many cd's you sale doesnt prove anything. I believe alot of people dont give him a chance.They just listen to his mainstream stuff and everyone knows that mainstream stuff is made to make money. Noone listens to anything else and are quick to judge? I understand that u dont have to like him, and not everyone will. I just dont get how people claim hes not the best when the only songs they listened to are "lollipop" and "a milli"

most people who buy the cd wont even care about the other songs on the cd until they here it on the radio a few times. and then its going to be thier new fav "song". Why are we taking away the success of the artist and not the mind controlled listeners.

[*absinthe*]

Did those millions of album buyers rush to purchase his CD's because of his hit songs on the radio or because of his apparent clever rhymes? I don't really know

Probably. I mean, it's definitely not his looks. Well, nevermind. Maybe it is.

[dustbunny]

Probably. I mean, it's definitely not his looks. Well, nevermind. Maybe it is.

LOL


anyways OJAI I didn't base my opinion of him not being the best rapper only on the songs I hear on the radio; I base my opinion on the fact that I've heard what else he's had to offer, personally didn't enjoy it, and have heard of better. and as far as the mindcontrolled listeners {lol nicely put) that's just how it is nowadays :( IN THE MEANTIME LET KC DEFEND HIS SOULJA BOY

[ReggieM]

whos better souljah boy or wayne =p?

[dustbunny]

oh god wayne <3









sorry kc

[ReggieM]

yesssssss

[dustbunny]

that's not really much of a win for wayne though :P

[ReggieM]

true, name a mainstream rapper youu find better than wayne.just curious.

i love this line lol

"the only time i will depend is when im 70 years old
thats when i cant hold my shit within, so i shit on myself
cuz im so sick and tired of shittin on everybody else"

[*absinthe*]

LOL


anyways OJAI I didn't base my opinion of him not being the best rapper only on the songs I hear on the radio; I base my opinion on the fact that I've heard what else he's had to offer, personally didn't enjoy it, and have heard of better. and as far as the mindcontrolled listeners {lol nicely put) that's just how it is nowadays :( IN THE MEANTIME LET KC DEFEND HIS SOULJA BOY

I agree 100%. (Although I like his beats. So maybe not entirely 100%). His lyrics don't cut it for me, either. I think society has succumbed to peer-pressure when it comes to (his) music. We listen to it because it's what's there and "everyone else is listening to it". I think regardless of paying attention to the lyrical content or not, Wayne is still highly listened to because everyone else listens to it. Listeners may or may not take the step back to think "wow, this music sucks" because what's important is feeling included, so to speak. Listeners can answer the question, "HEY HAVE YOU HEARD THAT NEW HIT BY LILWAYNE?!"....blahblahblah.


Plus. He's still ugly. (imo. haha just kidding. that has nothing to do with what i just said. )

whos better souljah boy or wayne =p?

ehhhhhh. probably wayne. personally, i like sb for certain things and wayne for others. i mean, they both compare and contrast. it's hard to say. (well for me at least).

[ReggieM]

but that goes with all other mainstreamers, noone listens to anything thats not mainstream. all the good stuff is underground.If you think about it how can you really get people to listen to your stuff without making a single mainstream, its basically impossible.

Thats why people like immortal technique are really good but get know respect because they have no "club bangers".

does sb look good lol?

and i hope you dont prefer sb content wise haha. But i mean really its hard for a female to be into rappers, that rap for real. And not the poetic stuff. The shoot em up stuff just appeals to men more, and thats what wayne is about.So i think u instantly become neglective of the music as you listen and theres no way to change it.

[dustbunny]

mm nas maybe?

haha from a song befitting of our current discussion!

What influenced my raps? Stick ups and killings
Kidnappings, project buildings, drug dealings
Criticize that, why is that?
Cuz Nas rap is compared to legitimized crap
Cuz we love to talk on ass we gettin'
Most intellectuals will only half listen
So you can't blame jazz musicians
Or David Stern with his NBA fashion issues
Oh I they like me--in my white tee
You can't ice me, we here for life B
On my second marriage, hip hop's my first wifey
And for that we not takin' it lightly
If hip hop should die we die together
Bodies in the morgue lie together

....

Everybody sound the same, commercialize the game
Reminiscin' when it wasn't all business
If it got where it started
So we all gather here for the dearly departed
Hip hopper since a toddler
One homeboy became a man then a mobster

The metaphors and similes didn't sound too forced for me, like with the INTENT of making you go HA! they were smooth and didn't go for a shock reaction.

[ReggieM]

yea nas is considered one of the top 5 of all time. i just think waynes emotion and the way he says it is so entertaining. Sometimes music should be entertaining.

Society isnt in the mood for NAS. But they are for waynes witty punchlines and metaphors. Life moves to fast to have to decipher rap. We always want things NOW.

But wayne is different from most rappers wont u say?(ps could we take up a whole page with just our discussion lol)

[dustbunny]

but that goes with all other mainstreamers, noone listens to anything thats not mainstream. all the good stuff is underground.If you think about it how can you really get people to listen to your stuff without making a single mainstream, its basically impossible.

I think you brought this up earlier but it's a great point. I mean assuming that Wayne was SERIOUSLY talented with his lesser known/not mainstream raps, why is it that THOSE raps can't be mainstream? I guess what you said about how life moves too fast to have enough time to decipher rap is an interesting take on it.



>damnit I keep losing my internet connection and I miss your newer posts

[ReggieM]

weezy style is made to be easily digestible and decyperable.
Thats why it sells,it may be to simple for some, but for the common person its genius. When you think about how many people that prolly listen to wayne and thier education it would proabably wouldnt be up to par as say nas and immortal technique. I really had to think about that nas quote. And it got me thinking.People look for music to relax and thats why weezy sales.

who said hip hop is dead

. "If hip-hop is dead, then I am the embalming fluid."

-weezy

[brooklyneast05]

i think lil wayne is a complete joke. i don't know anyone with extensive rap/hip hop knowledge who thinks he's good. the people who think these albums are amazing, are the people who have nothing better to compare it to.

everyone running around saying oh this is th shit this is the shit, this is so amazing. huh? yeah right, they're just saying that cause every other bullshit wanna be hip hop/rap listener is sayin it.

what a sad time for rap when this is held so high up.


i suppose you can say wayne raps how he raps so the common people can understand blablbala. bottom line, wayne is just as stupid as the people he's rapping to, that's why he raps for the "common people" and nothing more.

[MarcelleB]

agreed^^
i rather listen to rappers that actually make sense in their songs like talib kweli or madvillain

seriously for being so "wack" he has better oneliners and puns than any rapper you can name.

nah i think papoose would rape him if they went 1 on 1

[Rachel]

Actually that is very true, because people complain about Kenye West. his beats ar not all that great, but he raps about real things, basically LIFE. but you dont see poeple bumpin his music do you? No. So without getting off topic here, Its true that Lil Wayne is a phoney, but at least he is still stackin paper? & Its all about what the society wants. Now am I right?

What, who the hell says Kanye's beats aren't good? He started out and got famous because of his ill beats! Hell thats why his albums are genius, his rapping is allright but the beat is what keeps you coming back for more. The guy is a beat machine.

[brooklyneast05]

kanye is so so so so sooooo much better than lil wayne. his new stuff isn't even half as good as college drop out in my opinion and it's still miles above lil wayne.

[Rachel]

kanye is so so so so sooooo much better than lil wayne. his new stuff isn't even half as good as college drop out in my opinion and it's still miles above lil wayne.

Mmmm, I agree soo much. Everyone is in love with Graduation but that shit isn't nearly as great as College Drop Out and Late Registration.

[Simba]

agreed^^
i rather listen to rappers that actually make sense in their songs like talib kweli or madvillain

Amen.



I heard Weezy went to a private school, but I don't any sources, so I can confirm that or anything. Ninja still ain't all that though.

[Rachel]

PS, Lil Weezy did not sell 3 million records in one week. He sold just over 1 million.

http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm

[MiKKiBOO]

whos better souljah boy or wayne =p?

Well Soulja Boy was kinda hot you know, he set the record of selling 3.5 million ringtones on just one song in one week. But then again, his song is played out.

[Simba]

Keep Hip Hop alive, don't buy Weezy's reckids.

[MiKKiBOO]

PS, Lil Weezy did not sell 3 million records in one week. He sold just over 1 million.

http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm

o0h well I READ that he sold 3. So sorry if my info is wrong.

[ReggieM]

Well Soulja Boy was kinda hot you know, he set the record of selling 3.5 million ringtones on just one song in one week. But then again, his song is played out.

Jus cause something is big doesnt mean its good.stop with all the album sales it doesnt mean shit.

who says lil wayne doesnt make sense, maybe you just dont understand him. the a millie beat is pretty sick, i dont even like waynes verses. I like other peopl just think alot of people hate on wayne. I bet you havnt listened to his mixtapes...

This guy thinks of stuff other rappers dont. Hes original in a sense. I bet noone heard of the album mixtape he did about katrina huh?
"How you want it? Show me my opponent [Chewing sound]. Shoeemyponent." get it haha?

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

Where did you get , "Lil Wayne gets his lyrics from an R&B artist" from? Are you just speculating? Because I could have swore Gillie the Kid was a rapper who said he wrote The Carter I, but he has had much better songs since then.

As far as that underground stuff most people including myself do not want to hear a rapper with eloquent lyrics sounding depressed as hell over a microphone all the time . One of the first songs to hit mainstream did not have flashy lyrics but it was about having fun. Nas, who is supposed to be one of the greatest rappers of our time and also supposed positive artist was going to drop an album called N.I.G.G.E.R. which encourages all races to use the word. How people consider that positive is beyond me. Real talk, I have more respect for Soulja Boy than this dude, and I used to be a big Nas fan too. Also you have these backpackers talking about positive rappers like Kanye who don't rap about your typical Bitches, Hoes, Sex, and Guns.

Wait stop Kanye doesn't do that? Being a fan of Kanye myself time after time I've heard him use sexual references and call girls bitches and hoes, but yet he is looked at as a positive rapper when alot of his music is just as mainstream as the Soulja Boys and Lil Waynes. Remember when Kanye did that remix to Throw Some Ds, what was he rapping about? *Refers to sigs*

So you telling me Soulja Boy is whats destroying hip hop? I think not. And Lil Wayne has eloquent lines too, even though most of his stuff is random as hell he does have some creative lines the same people who criticize him can't even come up with if someone hinted them in the right direction.

well I mean personal preference also plays a large part in determining what's "good" and what's "bad". I prefer eloquence and poetic lyrics that flow with the music, lines that create images and run smoothly off the tongue; intricate selection and use of words is what I highly value, but not that's not what everyone else likes. Some people prefer witty lines, others analogies or metaphors. Some people can say they're the best rapper alive not by blatantly stating that but by spinning out words that sound aesthetically pleasing, or by displaying a broad range of vocabulary and clever diction.

personally the "I'm like a bomb tick tick" whatever just doesn't do it for me, and that's really just my personal preference in the end.

I just find Lil Wayne's diction and word choice crude and average.

How many Lil Wayne songs have you listened to? Lil Wayne uses tons of metaphors, probably not the ones you prefer, but its defintely in his songs.

I need something thats going to blast in my car not put me to sleep.

[MiKKiBOO]

Jus cause something is big doesnt mean its good.stop with all the album sales it doesnt mean shit.

who says lil wayne doesnt make sense, maybe you just dont understand him. the a millie beat is pretty sick, i dont even like waynes verses. I like other peopl just think alot of people hate on wayne. I bet you havnt listened to his mixtapes...

This guy thinks of stuff other rappers dont. Hes original in a sense. I bet noone heard of the album mixtape he did about katrina huh?
"How you want it? Show me my opponent [Chewing sound]. Shoeemyponent." get it haha?

The mixtapes? LOL this dude doesnt rap off his head, he raps other people lyrics, R&B people's lyrics, like someone said, thats why R&B is dead. In this one song he rapped a whole verse of Alliyah lyrics. && in his mixtapes he just raps other peoples R&B hits.! this guy is no genius.

Hip Hop and R&B is dead because no one wants to listen to the truth that everyone else raps and sings about. All the rappers are rappin about these days are asses and hoes, and money, cars, pimpin' all that other stuff.

Yes, Kanye West was hot with the college Drop Out albulm. But now his new album isnt as hot because its not sellin as much as the bullsh*t is.!


Lil Wayne Is A Phoney Point Blank.

[dustbunny]

How many Lil Wayne songs have you listened to? Lil Wayne uses tons of metaphors, probably not the ones you prefer, but its defintely in his songs.

I didn't say he didn't use metaphors or whatever, I said that's what some people prefer.

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

I didn't say he didn't use metaphors or whatever, I said that's what some people prefer.

Oh I got'cha

[Tung]

[dustbunny]

Oh I got'cha

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

[Simba]

Ah ha, KC, you do put up a respectable argument on this matter. Just so you know, I ain't really gonna argue with you much since I never try to align myself too much with either radically mainstream or radically underground, 'cause I listen to both kinds with pleasure.

While you got a point about Nas vs. Soulja Boy, these two cats cover totally different styles of MCing/rapping. I mean, I personally sho'nuff wouldn't pop a Nas track at the high point of a dance party, a Soulja Boy track would probably be better suited for that ish. Then again, you don't got time to be listening for lyrical content at a dance party.

One can put you in artistic articulation while the other can rock a party.

Though, you can't say all underground/alternative stuff is depressing and about hard times and all (that seems to be the kind of image "underground" has carried, even though it's not completely true). I'd cite an example, but you prolly never heard of 'em anyway, ha ha. For real though, for starters there's Jurassic 5.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YhZt4i92aSA
you can't say that ish is depressing, they gots a breakdancin bear up on that, lol

lol and I dunno if I can say I respect Soulja Boy more than Nas. Alright I sho don't, but that isn't to say Nas can be somewhat radical. For the record, Hip Hop is not dead, and never was. Sure, maybe it's dying, but it sho ain't dead, you just might have to look harder.


I like Kanye West 'cause he's got more skill than these other kids, imo, but that doesn't mean I always agree with him, or I think he's completely positive. I was definitely aware of that kind of other stuff, and I still think he can be arrogant at times, but while looking at other artists who are popular today, I gotta say he's up there. If not him, then Common Sense.


I can't say people like Soulja Boy and Weezy aren't hurting hip hop. Because they're so popular, they're the sort of rap that most people are exposed to and recognize. And if that's all that people know, man, the image of hip hop gets mad twisted.


For the record, I've heard as many Weezy songs as I can take in without killing anyone, lol. (A Milli, Dr. Carter, Mr. Carter, a few of his better tracks, and inevitably Lollipop which is repetitive as heck, and he's got better stuff.) Sure he could get creative and think of different ish, but I still think it's corny as hail, ha ha. That's strictly personal opinion though. I was never a fan of lines like stuff like "Hi Mr. Toilet, I'm the shit," or however it goes, or "I get more ass than a toilet seat," I don't even know who said that ish.


Anyway, I think there should be a balance between these two general styles of hip hop, artistic and party rockers. These days though, the party rockers kinda been the only thing people been hearing.

Also, you can't deny that money and corporations have had a negative twist on Hip Hop. I mean, think about it, that ish definitely wasn't there before. It's funny 'cause Hip Hop was originally a rebel music against what was mainstream at the roots, like funk.

I need something thats going to blast in my car not put me to sleep.

ninja, you don't have no car, you totaled that ish, lol


Dayum, I didn't really want to make a long arse post.

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

Ah ha, KC, you do put up a respectable argument on this matter. Just so you know, I ain't really gonna argue with you much since I never try to align myself too much with either radically mainstream or radically underground, 'cause I listen to both kinds with pleasure.

While you got a point about Nas vs. Soulja Boy, these two cats cover totally different styles of MCing/rapping. I mean, I personally sho'nuff wouldn't pop a Nas track at the high point of a dance party, a Soulja Boy track would probably be better suited for that ish. Then again, you don't got time to be listening for lyrical content at a dance party.

One can put you in artistic articulation while the other can rock a party.

lol and I dunno if I can say I respect Soulja Boy more than Nas. Alright I sho don't, but that isn't to say Nas can be somewhat radical. For the record, Hip Hop is not dead, and never was. Sure, maybe it's dying, but it sho ain't dead, you just might have to look harder.
I like Kanye West 'cause he's got more skill than these other kids, imo, but that doesn't mean I always agree with him, or I think he's completely positive. I was definitely aware of that kind of other stuff, and I still think he can be arrogant at times, but while looking at other artists who are popular today, I gotta say he's up there. If not him, then Common Sense.
I can't say people like Soulja Boy and Weezy aren't hurting hip hop. Because they're so popular, they're the sort of rap that most people are exposed to and recognize. And if that's all that people know, man, the image of hip hop gets mad twisted.
For the record, I've heard as many Weezy songs as I can take in without killing anyone, lol. (A Milli, Dr. Carter, Mr. Carter, a few of his better tracks, and inevitably Lollipop which is repetitive as heck, and he's got better stuff.) Sure he could get creative and think of different ish, but I still think it's corny as hail, ha ha. That's strictly personal opinion though. I was never a fan of lines like stuff like "Hi Mr. Toilet, I'm the shit," or however it goes.
Anyway, I think there should be a balance between these two general styles of hip hop, artistic and party rockers. These days though, the party rockers kinda been the only thing people been hearing.

Also, you can't deny that money and corporations have had a negative twist on Hip Hop. I mean, think about it, that ish definitely wasn't there before. It's funny 'cause Hip Hop was originally a rebel music against what was mainstream at the roots, like funk.

@ playing Nas @ a high point in the party. I wouldn't do that either.

I agree with what you're saying about about a separation of balance. I think thats how it should be. Let the people have their artistic music and let them have their party rockers.

And I also agree if not Kanye then Common. While I prefer Ye's songs Common is more of a lyricist and I think he is one of the actually true positive rappers hip hop has. On to Lil Wayne, yeah I hated Lil Wayne myself up until the Drought 3 album. I still think some things he says is out of line while other times he gets in a zone.

And as far as corporations this is who people should point the fingers at , not the artist who are trying to make money. I think people fail to put themselves in that "If I was broke and had no money" position so they overlook that. You wouldn't do the same? You see how the media treated Chapelle when he walked away from 50 mill. The said he was crazy even though his intentions were right on the money. No matter which direction you go its always going to be looked at as a bad thing.

ninja, you don't have no car, you totaled that ish, lol

LMAO , but yo you got to get with the times. I'm in a Honda now.

[brooklyneast05]

lol @ ice-t vs. soulja boy

i just got done watching this shit on youtube

[Tung]

[Simba]

Ha ha, I edited, but you just 2fast2furious and already replied. I just added a piece of non-depressing alternative hip hop and a link.

But word man, word about the kid tryna make money, and word 'bout Dave. Hail, if I was broke phi broke (like you, lol), and I had to decide between flippin' burgers or creating (even knowingly) wack reckids that actually sell big, I'd be in the booth in a second.

LMAO , but yo you got to get with the times. I'm in a Honda now.

Ah ha, word, I am behind with the times at the moment. Glad you didn't get caught jackin' that Honda from the lot.

[dustbunny]

lol @ ice-t vs. soulja boy

i just got done watching this shit on youtube

SXEPHIL!

[brooklyneast05]

SXEPHIL!

NO I WATCHED IT BEFORE I WATCHED PHIL....BUT YEAH.

i hate phil, just so you know. i seriously do, i duno why i still watch him.

[dustbunny]

hm what do you hate about him? I just recently discovered him and as of now I just consider him a reddit/digg news reporter

[brooklyneast05]

hm what do you hate about him? I just recently discovered him and as of now I just consider him a reddit/digg news reporter

ive watched him for like a year plus. he used to be better. he doesn't really do that much anymore in my opinion besides just repeat random stories from online news. it's not really vlogish anymore. so i guess it depends on what you subscribe to him for. if you do for the news kinda stuff then i suppose he's prob alright, but he isn't what he used to be.

[dustbunny]

I do it for the lulz :( I think I'll go check out some of his older stuff then to see what he was all about before

[Simba]

I do it for the lulz

wat

[tokyo-rose]

and Lil wayne is really ugly, why do girls throw theirselfs at him? because of the fame probably.

Well, yes, a lot of people are unfortunately that shallow. As for me, it doesn't matter what a singer/group looks like as long as their music is enjoyable.

[Simba]

Oh, I was wondering what chicks saw in that dude.


He's also hecka short.

[ReggieM]

im telling you is personality. his little cackle he does in alot of songs and the way he raps(not always with the same flow) is addicting. WEEEEZY bayyyybay


THROW SOME D's remix by KANYE was bumbped way too many times by myself alone.that song is "crack"

Whats the thread about again?

[Simba]

im telling you is personality. his little cackle he does in alot of songs and the way he raps(not always with the same flow) is addicting. WEEEEZY bayyyybay

Ha ha, I personally find his voice annoying, though not nearly as annoying as Chingy's.


Though I gotta admit, it's an interesting voice to listen to at times, but I don't think I could stomach a whole album worth's of his voice on my free time. =P

[MarcelleB]

Ha ha, I personally find his voice annoying, though not nearly as annoying as Chingy's.
Though I gotta admit, it's an interesting voice to listen to at times, but I don't think I could stomach a whole album worth's of his voice on my free time. =P

tru dat lol

the worst is when he trys to put on a jamaican voice( i forgot what song it was ) but yea he should just stop hes getting annoying

[Phil2thejay]

i thought he used autotone like tpain?
(if anyone even knows what auto tone is lol)
his rapping sucks
if you listen to some of them
people are like WOW THAT VERSE SO HOTT AND crap like that
but really alot of the metaphors he says and stuff dont make sense.
I had a big discussion about rashing on weezy with my friend yesterday =]

[sixfive]

el oh el at this thread

[brooklyneast05]

el oh el at this thread

wutchu doin in hurr white boi, get on yo tractor and gtfo of dis thread yo.

[sixfive]

But seriously, lol @ most of the people on cB's tastes in music / supposed knowledge.

[Simba]

i thought he used autotone like tpain?
(if anyone even knows what auto tone is lol)
his rapping sucks
if you listen to some of them
people are like WOW THAT VERSE SO HOTT AND crap like that
but really alot of the metaphors he says and stuff dont make sense.
I had a big discussion about rashing on weezy with my friend yesterday =]

I know he used autotone in Lollipop, but that's the only song I know he has. Then again, I don't listen to much Weezy.

But seriously, lol @ most of the people on cB's tastes in music / supposed knowledge.

gb2technothreadimo

[ReggieM]

i find c3 really bland. Its nothing to get hyped up over. Nothing to be remebered.Clearly none of his best work and it shows he "doesnt write shit down cuz i dont got time". alot of his stuff that does make sense you guys prolly have never heard. Hes nowhere near the greatest but hes alright.

[Simba]

Media did a really good job of hyping C3 though.

Like Weezy Wednesdays on BET? What the hail?

[MarcelleB]

im surprised people still watch bet these days they overplay their songs lol

[Simba]

im surprised people still watch bet these days they overplay their songs lol

I just watch BET on occasion to watch Malcolm & Eddie and Diff'rent Strokes, ha ha. Rap City is right after Malcolm & Eddie though, so sometimes I catch a peek at it. And word, about overplaying - they play the same songs every day for a month, ha ha.

I never got the concept of playing the top 20 songs everyday. You end up playing the same songs for about a month. It's tiresome.

[ReggieM]

i dont watch bet anymore, ever since uncut =p. Its only mtv and thats sparingly.

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

Rap >>>>>> all other taste in music.

[ReggieM]

And I'd rather be pushing flowers,
Than to be in the penn sharing showers
See Tony told us this world was ours
And the Bible told us every girl was sour
Don't play in the garden and don't smell her flower
Call me Mr. Carter or Mr. Lawn Mower
Boy I got so many girls like I'm Michael Lowry
Even Gwen Stefani said she couldn't doubt me

[MarcelleB]

that ish is worse than camron man...ok i take that back camron is worse he makes up his own words lmao