Buying vs Downloading for free, what's your stance? |
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Buying vs Downloading for free, what's your stance? |
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![]() ‹(. .)› ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 2,367 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,089 ![]() |
are you the type who downloads all your stuff or do you actually go buy and support the industries?
i'm annoyed with people telling me i'm stupid for actually buying my softwares, movies, games, and CDs. i'm sorry that i like having legit collections and the feeling of accomplishment when i buy something i've worked hard to save money for. edit: if it's your thing to download, it's not my problem; i just really dislike it when people get on my case for not wanting to. |
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![]() Naomi loves you. Y'all may call me NaNa ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Designer Posts: 2,925 Joined: Jun 2006 Member No: 427,774 ![]() |
You're right but sadly I'm guilty of it. My thing is I only download free music if it's music I like but don't like it enough to buy it. But I do download things I buy. I buy a lot of music on Itune's, I actually prefer that, I want quality and it's been awhile since I stole music.
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![]() /人◕‿‿◕人\ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 8,283 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 602,927 ![]() |
Music yes.
Computer programs no. I'm not paying $1000 for a photo editing program. |
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lol. for hookers
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#5
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![]() <(^_^<) DANCE!(>^_^)> ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,304 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 586,621 ![]() |
i try to buy all my music (itunes or cds).
as for programs... i'm trying to save up to buy the orginals of the ones i use (1 down, 3 to go!) but I am guilty of using ones that have been downloaded. |
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#6
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 129 Joined: Apr 2008 Member No: 637,661 ![]() |
i know, i'd love to buy things, i just don't have a job or money to do it. i feel accomplished when i can display things on my shelf, though instead of having nothing to show...
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#7
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![]() That's what she said. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,559 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 130,200 ![]() |
It depends on how much I like the artist or the movie. If I like all of their songs and love the artists, I'll buy the CD at the store. But if its just for one song, I'll just download it. Sorry.
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#8
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![]() <3<3<3<3 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,177 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,779 ![]() |
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#9
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prrincee lykee daa lasttt wonn..
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#10
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![]() Cornflakes :D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,541 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 322,923 ![]() |
If I really like the artists or movie, I'll buy it. If not I'll download it more than likely.
![]() Same goes for software. Except for like adobe stuff, because I have to buy those for school >_> student discount ftw. |
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#11
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,746 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 17,125 ![]() |
I'd buy a bands album if I'm at a show or if their music is god-sent and I just need to have an album or two.
Otherwise, for any form of media or programs, I download. I am not a record company, a struggling musician, or a producer. I do not know these people I'm supposed to support. I know me, and I know that I will benefit from downloading for free. I do not feel guilty. Maybe I should, but I don't. And I'm sure many of you don't feel sorry either, but falsely admit to it because you feel like you're supposed to be. Have it your way. Downloaders are downloaders regardless of their intentions. |
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#12
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![]() DDR \\ I'm Dee :) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Mentor Posts: 8,662 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,020 ![]() |
It depends. If it's an artist that I really like, I'll buy the CD just to have to original CD. Older stuff and odds 'n ends stuff I'll just get offline. I don't really download or buy software...
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#13
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![]() durian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 ![]() |
Well, I will BUY things if I deem it worthy to pay for, that I know I'll like. I mean, I even bought Pokemon Pearl for the Nintendo DS, when I could've easily downloaded it.
As for programs - well, I don't really want to pay $100-$200 for Microsoft Office for my Mac, so sorry, couldn't help myself there. I also barely use it anyways since I only use to it write up essays (I only write 2-3 essays per major class each quarter anyways)But I DID IN FACT pay for Mac OS X Leopard (Albiet it only cost me $70), which I bought from my school. As for music, well that's something I am not willing to fly over to Japan or Korea to get. It's hard enough trying to find older albums of artists or bands that have disbanded, but I really like the songs. I can't really get everything off of iTunes, and I would much rather buy a legit CD -- as long as it's the album I want, which is old though -- rather than support iTunes. I mean, you can only have something like up to 7 computers or iPods with the song or something, I forgot. D: As for anime and korean dramas, well there's youtube, crunchy roll, etc. that let's you stream it. ![]() ![]() |
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#14
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![]() ‹(. .)› ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 2,367 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,089 ![]() |
i notice no one is talking specifically about games, which is what i originally had in mind. i just added everything else 'cause most of the things that are downloaded are music and software.
i understand many of what you guys have stated, about software (ie adobe or microsoft) being ridiculously expensive. morally, i have no issue with students downloading these things for free because the companies get their money through institutions/schools and businesses that eventually enable some people to get it for free anyway. however, when someone is specifically pursuing a field in let's say, graphic design or photography, that person def. should invest the money to obtain said software. music is a whole 'nother realm. p2p filesharing and torrents aside, sites nowadays enable us to stream music for free, and most forums/web communities even upload entire albums for others to freely download. one wouldn't even have to try that hard to obtain music. however, there are legit ways of downloading music (ie itunes), so there's no excuse to not buy except that people simply don't want to pay. international/foreign music was brought up, and it's hard to find certain music in your local record store, but one can order via the artists' websites or from a store that specifically imports this type of music. i've been through my downloading stage (circa napster/kazaa era), and i think it's just totally different when you actually posses the tangible album in your hands. i know that not everyone is like this, but i personally don't feel the need to download music if i don't deem it worthy for me to buy. i'm not one to download albums at a time, but i recognize there are people who download anything and everything, and thus would have a hard time buying all those cds. i think the movie industry is still pretty strong, as i know many people who actually do go out to theatres, buy dvds/blu rays, and who rent rather than download. anyway, for the issue that really gets on my nerves: games. i'm not talking about downloading one or two games; i'm specifically annoyed with 'gamers' who download all their games freely and have the audacity to call me a dumbass. excuse my bitterness, but i get this kind of heat from people in clubs at school and even close friends. frankly, it really does anger me, since these same people are the ones who complain about gameplay or 'standards'. |
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![]() durian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 ![]() |
i think the movie industry is still pretty strong, as i know many people who actually do go out to theatres, buy dvds/blu rays, and who rent rather than download. anyway, for the issue that really gets on my nerves: games. i'm not talking about downloading one or two games; i'm specifically annoyed with 'gamers' who download all their games freely and have the audacity to call me a dumbass. excuse my bitterness, but i get this kind of heat from people in clubs at school and even close friends. frankly, it really does anger me, since these same people are the ones who complain about gameplay or 'standards'. Yea I still pay for movies, and even support blockbuster, since I signed up for the total access package (before they changed it, so I still have a decently priced package). I do get discounted tickets for movies since I buy them through my college box office, so it's still supporting the movie industry. As for video games, I will admit that I've gotten my boyfriend to download a game for my DS, but even so, like I said, I still did buy Pokemon Diamond and Pearl for both of us. I like the DS, but I guess the only game that I truly really like from it are: Cooking Mama and Pokemon. I still stand by my purchase, even though my friends told me I could just download it. The idea of actually having it, plus the free stylus was more than enough to sway me. And I don't really play video games in general, but I do think people should PAY for them. I mean, if it's a really good game, why not buy it? I even support my boyfriend's gaming enough to buy a few games for him. I mean, I do think video games are pricey, but if he wants to buy it, it's his choice. I totally respect that because in order for the gaming industry to create better and more awesome games, funding is needed and it is a full time job for many. On another note, for manga, I do still buy manga, but I know I've had to resort to scanlations since they're often ahead of what is published. I will buy the rest of the volumes once it's finally completely licensed in America (still waiting). |
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#16
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![]() ‹(. .)› ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 2,367 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,089 ![]() |
^ lol blockbuster has given me 4 free movies this month simply 'cause i rented so much ;X
anyway, yes! i agree that people should pay for games in order for the companies to come out with even better ones >;o i'm sick of hearing complaints about bugs and/or whining about how a certain company has gone under from people that don't even buy their games. |
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#17
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![]() durian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 ![]() |
^ Yea and honestly, if you wait a year or so (depending on the game) you can get games for a pretty good price. Last Black Friday my bf got Resident Evil 4 for Wii for $20. Just sayin', that's all. Plus, there's plenty of games that really keep you busy for hours, which makes it so much better knowing that you bought it, that you'd enjoy it to the fullest.
For Blockbuster, eh I only use their online total access stuff, since I'm often too lazy to go to blockbuster. But it's cool since it's a one time fee and I can just add movies online. I mean, there was even a movie I couldn't figure out where it was (never even found it at my local blockbuster) so I had to add it to the online queue. I don't think they'll give me any free movies since many of the rates went down (I think there's 1.99 rentals or something!). But damn, I miss when they would give us one free game rental per month. They took that away. ![]() |
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#18
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,071 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 41,748 ![]() |
I'd buy a bands album if I'm at a show or if their music is god-sent and I just need to have an album or two. Otherwise, for any form of media or programs, I download. I am not a record company, a struggling musician, or a producer. I do not know these people I'm supposed to support. I know me, and I know that I will benefit from downloading for free. I do not feel guilty. Maybe I should, but I don't. And I'm sure many of you don't feel sorry either, but falsely admit to it because you feel like you're supposed to be. Have it your way. Downloaders are downloaders regardless of their intentions. ARIEL! ![]() I have to agree with you on that...I haven't bought a cd in a long, long time. But yes, if I really like them or something, I will, but thats still pretty rare. I'm a cheap-ass. And same with software. I got the entire Adobe CS3 off my friend for free... ![]() |
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#19
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![]() Newbie ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1 Joined: Nov 2006 Member No: 480,686 ![]() |
I just downloaded this page for free.
Should I feel guilty? |
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#20
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![]() durian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 ![]() |
I just downloaded this page for free. Should I feel guilty? No, because you're taking this out of context. What the TC means is whether we are willing to PAY for something that is MEANT to be BOUGHT/PAID FOR, versus illegally getting it for free. Downloading this page is not illegal nor does it require you to pay for it. ![]() |
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#21
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![]() FOSL ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 73 Joined: Jun 2008 Member No: 654,778 ![]() |
let me add my 2 cents in..
Personally for me, I don't know any other way to get my software, movies, pc games, music albums & mixtapes or any type of media other than from downloading. Cause You since you can virtually download any kind of media from pirating it, its hard to go out to wal-mart and buy anything when u have bitorrent or websites like phazeddl or katz. Although a good movie like iron man or the new Batman that's going to come out or even Indiana jones - epic movies like that you know, Ima be out at the theatre with the crew watchin it. Same with Cd's. Good cd's like Carter III..I paid respect cause carters the man and I bought that album. Other than that ima download untill downloading is made impossible. IM FOSL AND DOWNLOADING IS MY ANIT DRUG... |
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#22
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,020 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 653,768 ![]() |
You remind me of an overenthusiastic homosexual(er) version of Rico.
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![]() FOSL ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 73 Joined: Jun 2008 Member No: 654,778 ![]() |
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![]() AKA RockIt Studios ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 2,286 Joined: Jun 2006 Member No: 421,809 ![]() |
when i get the money (birthday, christmas, etc...), or if i really want it, i actually buy my music, otherwise i download. computer programs, however...like i would spend a good couple (ha!) hundred bucks for a freakin peice of software.
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#27
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![]() durian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 ![]() |
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#28
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![]() FOSL ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 73 Joined: Jun 2008 Member No: 654,778 ![]() |
Oooo, ouch. I was told to kick rocks. Trust me sugar tits I would rather kick rocks than know that Rico sucked a few cocks and came back w/ the name FOSL. bro hop off my dick. I dont even know u. the fuk is rico? Stevie u already my number one fan out here now lol. but like i told u already. sit tight behind the safety of ur keyboard.. this fukface haha Wassup.. lets get back to the subject ![]() |
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 5,166 Joined: Oct 2007 Member No: 585,858 ![]() |
^ OOoO SNAPP stevii.. fosl calll u outt yo...
GITT R DONEE... FOSL vs steevenn... ![]() |
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I listen to way to much music to be able to afford it all. As it is, I would ideally buy my favorites, but frankly it's too expensive. I'm way too broke right now for all that, which I am reminded every time I do try to pay for music. But I do support artists somewhat, because I go to a lot of shows. So I download because I don't have the money, but probably would still have to even if I were less broke.
I download movies occasionally, but not as a rule. I mainly do it out of convenience, and also because I recently discovered that it's f**king $10 to go to a movie. That's just criminal, and I refuse. |
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#31
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,746 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 17,125 ![]() |
^ OOoO SNAPP stevii.. fosl calll u outt yo... GITT R DONEE... FOSL vs steevenn... ![]() You are f**king annoying. Everything you say is drawwwwlllleeddd outtttt like you have some kind of mental disorder, and you just can't seem to communicate any of your thoughts without completely butchering every arrangement of letters possible. This is ridiculous already, are you a cBer who's pretending to be an idiot? Did I miss something? |
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#32
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![]() in a matter of time ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,151 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 191,357 ![]() |
I only buy music if I like the artist a lot and the album's good. And this can only be determined from previous downloading.
I never, ever buy movies. EVER. I'm more likely to go rent them, because I almost never end up watching them again. And even if I do watch them again, I enjoy the freedom of being able to open a single file on my computer instead of going through a crapload of DVDs. I only buy games if I need to. Like, I will need to buy the legit Guitar Hero Wii, unless I can buy a fake guitar from Hong Kong. But I love it so much that I wouldn't mind spending the $100. And I will buy Guitar Hero DS. As for software, I'll buy it if it's absolutely essential for me (like Office), but if I'm just fooling around with it, I'll download it. Like Photoshop. The only way I'd buy Photoshop is if I ever become a professional graphic designer. |
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#33
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I only buy music if I like the artist a lot and the album's good. And this can only be determined from previous downloading. This is also my stance. I'm not really willing to buy and support something that isn't good quality, and until I find out it is, and that the album is totally worth it, I won't buy a CD at the store. That being said, I tend to buy quite a few CD's. o_o No more than one every two months though. With movies, I'm a cheap ass, and resort to streaming online (specifically SFC and s2e and youtube), only because $21 dollars for two movie tickets is sort of crippling on my budget. Although, if I hear a movie that gets a good review, I'll go out and see it on occasion. The same goes with anime -- I download from torrents online instead of buying the DVD versions of them (and even then, you can't find half of the anime you're looking for!) I'm an avid downloader, sadly, as I don't have the budget to support all of the purchases I would make if I did buy instead of downloading. Like I said though, if its good, I'll offer my support buy it. :) |
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![]() durian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 ![]() |
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![]() FOSL ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 73 Joined: Jun 2008 Member No: 654,778 ![]() |
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![]() durian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 ![]() |
It's alright. I didn't even really want to watch it in IMAX, but the boyfriend said it's better. I guess the experience of it and all. Okay the first half was definitely kind of dull, but the second half was pretty damn good. Think like, King Kong. I haven't seen that, but I heard the first half was pretty boring.
But I see it as a movie that I'd rather rent, than go out and watch. ![]() |
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![]() FOSL ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 73 Joined: Jun 2008 Member No: 654,778 ![]() |
yea ok so then its like King Kong when its good towards the second half. Man that movie was so crazy boring at first but by the end of the movie when that supermega monkey died...i like dam..
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#38
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You are f**king annoying. Everything you say is drawwwwlllleeddd outtttt like you have some kind of mental disorder, and you just can't seem to communicate any of your thoughts without completely butchering every arrangement of letters possible. This is ridiculous already, are you a cBer who's pretending to be an idiot? Did I miss something? WATCHHU MOUUTHH LILL BIETCH... u winnaa calll princc outt justt saii soo... princc ginnaa putt u enn u placee lill bietch... ![]() ![]() dunno nuttinn n trydaa startt shiett withh princc.. WTF u gittaa b outtaa u mineee u lil bietch... ![]() P.S princc givv u SUNDDAII daa saii sum shiett bakk bietch.. orr u pussii OUTTTT!!! LOSURR... ![]() |
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#39
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![]() Drank wit your boy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,711 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 649,997 ![]() |
A nigga stay on his MP3/ Bootlegging hustle. I got SNES Roms , N64 Roms , MP3s,
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