cB performance Options

[Tung]

Should we have a pinned topic thread like Moderator Performance, where we just discuss the current state of cB and what we can do as a community to improve it?

[Elba]

Unban the legends.

[MissHygienic]

Moderator Performances is about the moderators, not the current state of CreateBlog. It just turned into that.

[illriginal]

Moderator Performances is about the moderators, not the current state of CreateBlog. It just turned into that.

The state of Cb is depended on the moderation of the mods... Just like if we had no government in a country there would be no order. We'd be back in the Wild West era.

[MissHygienic]

The state of Cb is depended on the moderation of the mods... Just like if we had no government in a country there would be no order. We'd be back in the Wild West era.

What makes your assumptions correct? I'm not going to get into your analogies, but moderators are only a portion of CreateBlog. You can discuss how they handle situations relating to CreateBlog in Moderator Performances. To discuss the overall state of CreateBlog is a different story, and it should involve everyone.

[The-March-Hare]

I think that's too broad a topic for one thread. I mean, discussing the state of cB is what the Feedback forum is for, and it's a lot easier to do that coherently in several smaller thread than it would be to sift through one giant thread to address too many issues at once.

[illriginal]

What makes your assumptions correct? I'm not going to get into your analogies, but moderators are only a portion of CreateBlog. You can discuss how they handle situations relating to CreateBlog in Moderator Performances. To discuss the overall state of CreateBlog is a different story, and it should involve everyone.

A moderator is like the support beams of Cb... they are the ones that keep Cb from falling and becoming just another useless forum board. But whatever, it's just my opinion based on other forum boards who acknowledge the mastery of moderation.

[misoshiru]

Unban the legends.

[NoSex]

I like this and think it is a worthwhile endeavor. Talking about how we feel about our community can, even if it is a broad topic, outline issues that need to be addressed. I intend to contribute here in the future, with the end goal of finding ways to benefit the community boards here.

[MissHygienic]

A moderator is like the support beams of Cb... they are the ones that keep Cb from falling and becoming just another useless forum board. But whatever, it's just my opinion based on other forum boards who acknowledge the mastery of moderation.

I'm not saying that moderators aren't important or aren't useful to a forum. Lumping complaints about all of CreateBlog in general with Moderator Performances will detract from the point of the thread in the first place.

[pandora]

A moderator is like the support beams of Cb... they are the ones that keep Cb from falling and becoming just another useless forum board. But whatever, it's just my opinion based on other forum boards who acknowledge the mastery of moderation.

I think you expect too much out of the mods. The mods are here to help out and moderate the forums. Sure, they are involved in a lot of the decision making that goes around here, but it's also up to the community to keep this place alive as well. It doesn't help at all when there are people like you constantly causing trouble. If there's some kind of problem with the community, you (general 'you') are as much to blame as any of the mods.

[Elba]

I'm not saying that moderators aren't important or aren't useful to a forum. Lumping complaints about all of CreateBlog in general with Moderator Performances will detract from the point of the thread in the first place.

I'm confused. Did you think Tung meant to talk about cB's current performance within the Moderator's Performance topic?

[MissHygienic]

Hmm. I think I did. Oops.

[illriginal]

I think you expect too much out of the mods. The mods are here to help out and moderate the forums. Sure, they are involved in a lot of the decision making that goes around here, but it's also up to the community to keep this place alive as well. It doesn't help at all when there are people like you constantly causing trouble. If there's some kind of problem with the community, you (general 'you') are as much to blame as any of the mods.

I believe the reputation system would be very beneficial. This way we can learn exactly who's a good and respectable person and who isn't. Specially if the reputation system doesn't exclude ANY one.

[pandora]

I don't see what that suggestion has to do with what I said, but I do generally like the idea. I had a similar reputation system set up on my own boards before.

In any case, my main point is that I can see how it's easier to blame the mods for cB's shortcomings but this is a community driven website, not a mod driven website. We all share equal responsibility in keeping this place alive.

Instead of criticizing the mods for things that the entire community is responsible for, how about giving them some space so they can do their jobs more efficiently? Take it into your own hands and help us make a better community.

[tokyo-rose]

"Be the change you wish to see on CB."

Can't remember who said that at the moment, but it was either Brandon or Arjuna, I think..

[The-March-Hare]

It was eGhandi.

GO GO GADGET GHANDI!

[pandora]

And honestly if people stopped creating extra work for the mods by constantly breaking rules that they know they should not be breaking (member bashing, spammimg, posting inappropriate content, etc,) I'm sure that they could spend less time policing the forums and babysitting the members and spend more time talking about what they can do as a team to improve createBlog as a whole.

[brooklyneast05]

the community has a shitty negative attitude that feeds off drama and discourages new people from being able to join in. if you aren't in the circle is hard to get into it. so people get tired of their posts being ignored and end up leaving.

the mods aren't responsible for that. that's not to say that they don't contribute, but they aren't the lone reason. so we can critique the mods all day but they are only a small part of the problem. i think a thread or multiple threads to discuss the community is what we need. the community needs to discuss itself. it's a good idea, we should do it.

we need more more quality threads with real content. we need more threads that let everyone join in, not just the hand full of us that know each other.

the community needs to fix itself, not the mods fix the community. that's never going to work.

[foxx]

the community has a shitty negative attitude that feeds off drama and discourages new people from being able to join in. if you aren't in the circle is hard to get into it.

[illriginal]

I don't see what that suggestion has to do with what I said, but I do generally like the idea. I had a similar reputation system set up on my own boards before.

In any case, my main point is that I can see how it's easier to blame the mods for cB's shortcomings but this is a community driven website, not a mod driven website. We all share equal responsibility in keeping this place alive.

Instead of criticizing the mods for things that the entire community is responsible for, how about giving them some space so they can do their jobs more efficiently? Take it into your own hands and help us make a better community.

That's the thing though... mods have got to be more strict, even if their friends are screwin off and startin unnecessary problems. You guys are the cops... you are the government of this forum board... when users get out of line, it's the mods job to put them back in line but when a mod fails to do so... users take advantage of it. Thus makin other users upset... then it becomes a huge chain reaction of needless bull.

the community has a shitty negative attitude that feeds off drama and discourages new people from being able to join in. if you aren't in the circle is hard to get into it.

Ha... I love you man.

[tokyo-rose]

the mods aren't responsible for that. that's not to say that they don't contribute, but they aren't the lone reason. so we can critique the mods all day but they are only a small part of the problem. i think a thread or multiple threads to discuss the community is what we need. the community needs to discuss itself. it's a good idea, we should do it.

the community needs to fix itself, not the mods fix the community. that's never going to work.

Yeah, really. We (the moderators) can only do so much to try to help CreateBlog if it's the members who have bad attitudes that contribute to the unpleasant forum environment. If certain members are being mean on purpose, then what are we supposed to do? We can warn/punish them, sure, but it's probably not going to change the members' attitudes unless the members themselves make a conscious effort to be more considerate and welcoming.

[pandora]

Exactly, JC.

I think what's absolutely needed here is a general agreement between the members of cB. You guys want this community to succeed? Help each other out. This "inner-circle" of cb can only last for long, and you guys have seen exactly what I'm talking about. If you think that drama is the only thing that drives this website, then CHANGE that. You guys are capable of it.

I don't think that drama drives this website, I think that this tight-knit group of active cBers is actually what drives this website. You guys are valued members of this forum, and people do listen to what you guys have to say (a lot more than people listen to the mods). Because of that, you have a lot of members that get driven away by a lot of what is said around here. Then you have members that try to hold their ground and fight back against some of the drama, only to cause more drama themselves.

Invite more members into the circle. Because you guys can't last forever, like I said. Some of you are going to outgrow cB, as many have done in the past. Don't you see how the circle gets smaller and smaller each year? Is that what you want? Once your little circle dies out, it's game-over and the only people you can blame are yourselves.

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and to respond to your last post tama:

And honestly if people stopped creating extra work for the mods by constantly breaking rules that they know they should not be breaking (member bashing, spammimg, posting inappropriate content, etc,) I'm sure that they could spend less time policing the forums and babysitting the members and spend more time talking about what they can do as a team to improve createBlog as a whole.

[illriginal]

Yeah, really. We (the moderators) can only do so much to try to help CreateBlog if it's the members who have bad attitudes that contribute to the unpleasant forum environment. If certain members are being mean on purpose, then what are we supposed to do? We can warn/punish them, sure, but it's probably not going to change the members' attitudes unless the members themselves make a conscious effort to be more considerate and welcoming.

BAN! BAN! BAN! Daily bans, weekly bans, monthly bans, and perma bans.

Warnings shouldn't even exist -.-
Why do you think I laugh when you guys verbally warn me? All you're doin is adding a percentage and a new lil blue square underneath my avatar at MOST. =\


Yeah but pandora.. I'm just one person, sure I get hell bent about morality but damn... you have people makin even worst posts than I ever had. "Cartoon porn"... 'Pedo-bear" "nipple pictures" the list goes on...

Also I find it quite sad that this forum doesn't want people promoting religion yet you allow promoting and glorifyin of atheism

[The-March-Hare]

BAN! BAN! BAN! Daily bans, weekly bans, monthly bans, and perma bans.

Warnings shouldn't even exist -.-
Why do you think I laugh when you guys verbally warn me? All you're doin is adding a percentage and a new lil blue square underneath my avatar at MOST. =\

Yeah, because what we REALLY need is a bunch of people angry and bitter about being banned for something small returning from their bans every week and talking about how the place is hella strict an no fun.

We're trying to BUILD a community, not kill off the members one by one.