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Pregnant 4 times, at age 16.
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:36 PM
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I have a friend (Jackie) at school whom I've met at the beginning of the year. She seemed pretty nice and didnt seem too different than any of us. But she recently told me that she has been pregnant 4 times and after she found out, she would call her friends and they would all drink heavily until the baby died. She also said that she would "accidently fall down stairs" as well. My other friend CC has been with her when she's done this, and says its nothing more than a ton of hard liquor, throwing up, and falling a lot.

My question: If you were at such a young age and got pregnant, what would you do?
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:37 PM
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wth! what a nutcase
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:38 PM
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BE LIKE JUNO. sad.gif
actually, it all depends on the situation. But i would never do something like that cry.gif
 
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Wow, she basically murdered 4 people. That's freakin' crazy. She really needs to talk to someone about this problem she has, and start being more responsible and use protection whenever she have any kind of sex.

I can't say what I would do, since I'm a male, but if I were a female, I wouldn't be in that position in the first place.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:39 PM
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Get help. I don't actually don't know what I would do. But then again, I wouldn't get myself pregnant if I didn't want to be.

But yeah she's a nutcase.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:39 PM
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Two days before the start of spring break she attempted suicide by ODing on advil. She had an entire bottle. She was entered into an 8 day rehab and she brags about it. She pretty much brags about everything bad that she's done.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:41 PM
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It's something called CONDOMS. Teach her that. She's not only a basketcase, she's a f**king idiot, and she's doing more harm to herself than her potential children. Get professional help, both in psychiatry and a gynecologist. I'm past that age, but if I were that young and got pregnant, I wouldn't try to give myself a miscarriage.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:44 PM
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Holy crap! Is she like mentally retarded!?!
I think she needs to learn what a C-O-N-D-O-M is.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:44 PM
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It just shows that she's a f**king attention whore, who probably lied about being pregnant all those times. The fact that she goes around bragging about doing all this makes it quite obvious.


If I got pregnant before I want a kid, I'd abort it. I don't care, if it's inside the womb, before the 1st trimester, imo it's a parasite.


edit: Actually, I think it would depend on my age. If I'm at an age before I can support myself, then no I don't think that I would abort it. But if I were 14, then yes. And of course, if I were pregnant, the whole situation would change, and I'd probably have to rethink everything. But I'm definitely very much so Pro-Choice.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:46 PM
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i don't get this, it seems like after the first time she wouldn't want to go through that again and would take extra measures to make sure she didn't.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:47 PM
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IT'S BECUZ SHEZ AN ATTENTION WHORE.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:48 PM
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Apparently, she really enjoys packing fetus like clockwork.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:48 PM
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ROFLMAO She got pregnant before being an adult 4 times... wow huge failure. Then to make it even worst lol she drank alcohol to kill all 4 babies.


Fail #1 getting pregnant prior to marriage x4

Fail #2 drank alcohol for an evil deed... x4

Fail #3 murdered x4


Tell her to commit suicide, she's already on her way.




But I also agree with misoshiru, attention whore.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:50 PM
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Jc, its more like shes f**king retarded and doesnt really care about her body at all. She doesnt have any respect for herself or for the babies that shes making. I know for a fact she doesnt use condoms, obviously. And Yan lin, I know she is an attention whore, I just can't believe someone would go [i]that far[/] for attention. Its terrible.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:51 PM
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I personally don't believe that she's actually gotten pregnant 4 times. By the 4th time you abort the fetus in this way, your body will have suffered so much trauma that you would most likely have to go to the hospital for treatment. Sure, she probably would just invite friends over to drink to "kill the baby." Whatever. I see it more as making up shit because she needs the attention.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(misoshiru @ Apr 2 2008, 06:51 PM) *
I personally don't believe that she's actually gotten pregnant 4 times. By the 4th time you abort the fetus in this way, your body will have suffered so much trauma that you would most likely have to go to the hospital for treatment. Sure, she probably would just invite friends over to drink to "kill the baby." Whatever. I see it more as making up shit because she needs the attention.

Yeah I see that girl losing her life after the next birth... her vital organs must be horribly damaged. That many times having a fetus at such an underdeveloped stage of her life, then drinking heavily during pregnancy (which the body during this phase absorbs more than it normally would) that many times?... geees she's literally killin herself.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 06:00 PM
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^ She really is. She already tried to kill herself by ODing. Its really rather sad/pathetic/disgusting.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 06:15 PM
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Wow. That's about all I have to say at initial reaction. If I were her, I absolutely would not try to have a miscarriage four times. I would have spoken to my parents about getting an abortion, or at least getting on birth control pills. She needs to learn how to for herself and the potential lives she's creating.

Then again, when you say she tried to kill herself by OD'ing, you slightly have to wonder about her side of the story, what she's going through. Maybe she just made the wrong decisions. Four times. And brags about them. o_O
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(Reconditee @ Apr 2 2008, 07:15 PM) *
Wow. That's about all I have to say at initial reaction. If I were her, I absolutely would not try to have a miscarriage four times. I would have spoken to my parents about getting an abortion, or at least getting on birth control pills. She needs to learn how to for herself and the potential lives she's creating.

Then again, when you say she tried to kill herself by OD'ing, you slightly have to wonder about her side of the story, what she's going through. Maybe she just made the wrong decisions. Four times. And brags about them. o_O

Yeah but part of the point of life is to learn right from wrong. For f**k sake is this bitch mildly retarded? If she's retarded then I'll understand.... if not then well maybe she really does deserve to die? (damn I'm evil)
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 06:28 PM
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aha, i pretty much agree with the sympathy-whoring part, but if i was such a young age and got pregnant, one of my options would definitely NOT drinking till it dies. If I were to abort it, I'd do it properly, not doing it in such a horrible manner. :| Wtf? messedddd
 
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Holy shit, if you're going to put the baby down, at least have an abortion. Don't fall down the stairs and drink the baby away. That's just totally stupid. And plus, she's not just hurting the baby, she's hurting herself too.

I think I would advise my friend to either keep the baby, or put the baby up for adoption. The baby deserves a life.

Make that the 4 babies.
 
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Wow, she basically murdered 4 people.

Abortion isn't murder. They weren't alive yet.

Which is not to defend this girl at all, just saying. I'd stop being a whore. I'd use protection. I'd deal with shit and have the baby, or abort it in the proper way. You know, safely. But I'd never be in her situation because I'm not a f**king idiot.

I also can't believe her friends would drink with her to get rid of it, either. How dumb do you have to be not tell your friend that that's no way to deal with things, and get her real help? I wouldn't participate in that shit.
 
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i think if i would have been in that situation (the first time) i would have kept the baby and not make the same mistake again. but if i wasn't able to keep the baby i would opt for adoption. it's careless that if you've already made the mistake of getting pregnant once that would allow it to happen 4 times, especially being so young.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Apr 2 2008, 07:46 PM) *
Abortion isn't murder. They weren't alive yet.

ROFLMAO laugh.gif rofl1.gif loool.gif

Then I guess I could say that if I traveled back into the past, killed your parents; that's a form of aborting you and wouldn't be considered murdering you, right?

I can't believe I attempted to take you serious all those other times.
 
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And I'm supposed to take you seriously when you talk about traveling back in time and killing my parents?
 
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Apr 2 2008, 08:14 PM) *
And I'm supposed to take you seriously when you talk about traveling back in time and killing my parents?

Hey, I'm just tryin to get on your level so you could actually agree to it and make yourself look even more dumber than your last post.
 
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More dumber? Really? You're no where near "my level."
 
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QUOTE(carolannexbh @ Apr 2 2008, 03:39 PM) *
Two days before the start of spring break she attempted suicide by ODing on advil. She had an entire bottle. She was entered into an 8 day rehab and she brags about it. She pretty much brags about everything bad that she's done.

Wow, I just read that. Holy hell, what a f**king attention whore. She bragged about committing suicide? What, does she think she'll get the same attention as the fake characters on The OC? No. People think you're a dumbass slut. Somebody needs to slap some sense into her.
 
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Apr 2 2008, 08:16 PM) *
More dumber? Really? You're no where near "my level."

Right. Let me tell you. "Abortion isn't murder, it isn't a live yet" If it wasn't alive yet, it wouldn't evolve... it wouldn't become larger, it wouldn't move, it wouldn't depend on its vessel to receive nutrients in order to survive and become a gorgeous child. You're f**ked in your lil head. "Your level" rolleyes.gif


Sperm is a live and so is the egg... I guess you should take health/sex education all over again.
 
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Well, I got pregnant when I was 15. Me and my boyfriend tried to be careful but in some cases no matter how hard you try to be careful you can't be anymore than 99.9% sure you won't get pregnant. Well I was the .1% and got pregnant. At first I was so depressed and scared I couldn't eat, sleep, or function well. When I realized what I was doing to my baby by my fears, I quickly turned my life around and made the best of the situation.

Now I have a beautiful son.

Your friend is crazy. She is doing more harm than good to herself. Let's ignore the fact that she's killed the innocent lives of her 4 potential children, but when the time comes that she actually decides to have children she could wind up infertile. If she brags about everything bad she's done perhaps some of it could be an exaggeration, but overall this chick is crazy and needs professional help pronto.
 
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Right. Let me tell you. "Abortion isn't murder, it isn't a live yet" If it wasn't alive yet, it wouldn't evolve... it wouldn't become larger, it wouldn't move, it wouldn't depend on its vessel to receive nutrients in order to survive and become a gorgeous child. You're f**ked in your lil head. "Your level" rolleyes.gif
Sperm is a live and so is the egg... I guess you should take health/sex education all over again.

It doesn't make it a person. Take your juvenile insults and shut the hell up. This isn't a debate.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Apr 2 2008, 08:24 PM) *
It doesn't make it a person. Take your juvenile insults and shut the hell up. This isn't a debate.

LOL thumbsup.gif Good luck with your future children, hopefully you'll thnk of them as dead organisms and you don't give birth to any morons, we have enough of them as it is.
 
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QUOTE(LizzieDeeCeex3 @ Apr 2 2008, 05:22 PM) *
Well, I got pregnant when I was 15. Me and my boyfriend tried to be careful but in some cases no matter how hard you try to be careful you can't be anymore than 99.9% sure you won't get pregnant. Well I was the .1% and got pregnant. At first I was so depressed and scared I couldn't eat, sleep, or function well. When I realized what I was doing to my baby by my fears, I quickly turned my life around and made the best of the situation.

Now I have a beautiful son.

Your friend is crazy. She is doing more harm than good to herself. Let's ignore the fact that she's killed the innocent lives of her 4 potential children, but when the time comes that she actually decides to have children she could wind up infertile. If she brags about everything bad she's done perhaps some of it could be an exaggeration, but overall this chick is crazy and needs professional help pronto.

Kudos to you for keeping your baby. =]
 
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Kudos to you for keeping your baby. =]


Thank you! He is the best thing that ever happened to me.=)
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 07:29 PM
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Simply put ladies and gentlemen. You don't want kids? DON'T HAVE SEX. Cuz not even a condom nor birth control or "pulling out" is gonna prevent you from havin a child 100%.

Yall are adult enough to have sex... then prepare for the repercussions. And avoiding it by aborting a child every time you get pregnant is only f**kin yourself at the end of your road.
 
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QUOTE(LizzieDeeCeex3 @ Apr 2 2008, 07:22 PM) *
Well, I got pregnant when I was 15. Me and my boyfriend tried to be careful but in some cases no matter how hard you try to be careful you can't be anymore than 99.9% sure you won't get pregnant. Well I was the .1% and got pregnant. At first I was so depressed and scared I couldn't eat, sleep, or function well. When I realized what I was doing to my baby by my fears, I quickly turned my life around and made the best of the situation.

Now I have a beautiful son.

Your friend is crazy. She is doing more harm than good to herself. Let's ignore the fact that she's killed the innocent lives of her 4 potential children, but when the time comes that she actually decides to have children she could wind up infertile. If she brags about everything bad she's done perhaps some of it could be an exaggeration, but overall this chick is crazy and needs professional help pronto.


flowers.gif Kudos to you for keeping your child. I highly support you.
 
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It doesn't make it a person. Take your juvenile insults and shut the hell up. This isn't a debate.


I am not just saying this from my standpoint of being a teen who kept their baby and being a mother but I can't imagine how someone could say that a baby growing and evolving all while in their mothers stomach does not make them people. Within the first four weeks your baby has a heart that functions just like ours, a heart that beats.

So tell me, if your heart stopped beating, would you cease being a person?
 
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I can't get pregnent lol, but if i could i'd just give it to adoption.
Its as easy as that.
My friend thought he got his girlfriend preg. last year...turns out she just gained weight...lmao
 
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I can't get pregnent lol, but if i could i'd just give it to adoption.
Its as easy as that.
My friend thought he got his girlfriend preg. last year...turns out she just gained weight...lmao

(Sorry for the double post, my pc is slow =/)
 
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QUOTE(LizzieDeeCeex3 @ Apr 3 2008, 08:31 AM) *
I am not just saying this from my standpoint of being a teen who kept their baby and being a mother but I can't imagine how someone could say that a baby growing and evolving all while in their mothers stomach does not make them people. Within the first four weeks your baby has a heart that functions just like ours, a heart that beats.

So tell me, if your heart stopped beating, would you cease being a person?

In the first trimester, the "baby" is nothing but a parasite.
 
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QUOTE(LizzieDeeCeex3 @ Apr 2 2008, 08:31 PM) *
I am not just saying this from my standpoint of being a teen who kept their baby and being a mother but I can't imagine how someone could say that a baby growing and evolving all while in their mothers stomach does not make them people. Within the first four weeks your baby has a heart that functions just like ours, a heart that beats.

So tell me, if your heart stopped beating, would you cease being a person?

She's never been pregnant, her selfish views is disgusting. She doesn't know what it is to have a child in you. The strong connection you make with what is in your womb. Let her be... I don't even want her postin on this thread with her devilish views.
 
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well it's not like you can ever have a womb. everyone has different opinions. don't go blasting shit about how someone is the devil if their beliefs are different than yours. how come you're not talking shit about me since i find fetuses parasites huh?
 
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...ever think maybe she's lying?
i mean, really, she could just be f**king stupid, or f**king stupid and a pathological liar. i bet on the latter.
 
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In the first trimester, the "baby" is nothing but a parasite.


At the end of the 1st trimester, the fetus has arms, hands, fingers, legs, feet, and toes that are fully formed. Their internal organs are already developing. Their nails begin to grow. External ears are present. Tooth sockets are bugs are forming in the jawbones. Their eyes are almost fully developed. That description more fits a human being than a parasite, as far as I'm concerned.
 
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QUOTE(LizzieDeeCeex3 @ Apr 2 2008, 08:31 PM) *
I am not just saying this from my standpoint of being a teen who kept their baby and being a mother but I can't imagine how someone could say that a baby growing and evolving all while in their mothers stomach does not make them people. Within the first four weeks your baby has a heart that functions just like ours, a heart that beats.


QUOTE(misoshiru @ Apr 2 2008, 08:33 PM) *
In the first trimester, the "baby" is nothing but a parasite.


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So tell me, if your heart stopped beating, would you cease being a person?

Well I'd be dead............
 
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QUOTE(misoshiru @ Apr 2 2008, 08:37 PM) *
well it's not like you can ever have a womb. everyone has different opinions. don't go blasting shit about how someone is the devil if their beliefs are different than yours. how come you're not talking shit about me since i find fetuses parasites huh?

Because that's an analogy. But in a sense is true at that specific stage. But still... it was willed to be born. Whether it's a mistake or not... it was meant to be, people should be responsible for their actions. If we all "aborted" our responsibilities this world would be f**ked beyond belief long ago. Which sadly is goin that direction anyways =\

paper.. you don't have to agree with shit that I have to say. But the fact that you said, "abortion isn't murder, it isn't alive yet" only makes you lose creditability and my respect, for whatever that's worth.
 
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for me, if it can't live outside the womb by itself, it's not a human being.

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...ever think maybe she's lying?
i mean, really, she could just be f**king stupid, or f**king stupid and a pathological liar. i bet on the latter.

uh...wtf? maybe you're f**king stupid.
 
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Because that's an analogy. But in a sense is true at that specific stage. But still... it was willed to be born.

You sound an awful lot like those Catholics you hate so much.

It wasn't willed to be born if it isn't born
 
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I'd appreciate it if everyone would stop turning this thread into a debate. If you wanted to debate about it, go into the debate forum.

Becka, a lot of us do think that she did do these things, but just blowing them up into a bigger story than what it really is.
 
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Apr 2 2008, 08:42 PM) *
You sound an awful lot like those Catholics you hate so much.

It wasn't willed to be born if it isn't born

You mean I sound like a person of God... who respects and loves humanity and wants humanity to prosper and build together?

It's willed to be born if the moron who's supposed to be responsible and caring doesn't get in the way and murders it.

Whatever. I've said my peace and you've proved your moronic view. And to prevent this from happening again, please for f**k sake, do not question me, nor even quote me on anything for now on. You'd only be wasting time.

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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Apr 2 2008, 08:40 PM) *
Because that's an analogy. But in a sense is true at that specific stage. But still... it was willed to be born. Whether it's a mistake or not... it was meant to be, people should be responsible for their actions. If we all "aborted" our responsibilities this world would be f**ked beyond belief long ago. Which sadly is goin that direction anyways =\

paper.. you don't have to agree with shit that I have to say. But the fact that you said, "abortion isn't murder, it isn't alive yet" only makes you lose creditability and my respect, for whatever that's worth.


Abortion is murder, as Paperplane said, if your heart stops beating you wouldn't be alive, a fetus' heart is beating, so it is alive, and aborting it is murder. It's that simple. If all these people can say "It's my body, it's my choice," it was your choice to open your legs and get pregnant, so deal with it. How fair is it to take the life of an innocent child, the result of your actions, and make them pay for it? It's your body? Well, you're now sharing it with someone else. And as for "not being able to live outside of the womb and surviving?" a newborn baby, without their mother, would not be able to survive on it's own, and depends on it's mother to care for it in the same ways they did in the womb. You all will understand when you have your own children. I'm sure you won't think of them as parasites then.
 
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well, i "apologize" for calling her a pathological liar.
i just took it from my personal experience.
if you have proof that she's done these things-proof she was prego, proof she actually tried commiting suicide and didn't just put herself (or a family member put her) into rehab-great, dig deeper. if not, i say you ditch her...there's nothing worse that could ruin /your/ life by staying with a pathological liar (that is, if she's one), especially if they refuse help. once again, from my personal experience.


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well, i "apologize" for calling her a pathological liar.
i just took it from my personal experience.
if you have proof that she's done these things-proof she was prego, proof she actually tried commiting suicide and didn't just put herself (or a family member put her) into rehab-great, dig deeper. if not, i say you ditch her...there's nothing worse that could ruin /your/ life by staying with a pathological liar (that is, if she's one), especially if they refuse help. once again, from my personal experience.

Oh, I thought you were talking about Nicki.
 
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Abortion is murder, as Paperplane said, if your heart stops beating you wouldn't be alive, a fetus' heart is beating, so it is alive, and aborting it is murder. It's that simple. If all these people can say "It's my body, it's my choice," it was your choice to open your legs and get pregnant, so deal with it. How fair is it to take the life of an innocent child, the result of your actions, and make them pay for it? It's your body? Well, you're now sharing it with someone else. And as for "not being able to live outside of the womb and surviving?" a newborn baby, without their mother, would not be able to survive on it's own, and depends on it's mother to care for it in the same ways they did in the womb. You all will understand when you have your own children. I'm sure you won't think of them as parasites then.


There are plenty of pro-choice mothers. But it is your body. It's ridiculously unfair that men can have sex without getting pregnant (yes yes biology blah blah blah blah); it's your choice to have sex (assuming it's consensual), but it's not your choice to get impregnated. As you well know.

Now I wouldn't have an abortion if I got pregnant, but I'd be f**king miserable. But, I know my mom would help me take care of it. A lot of people don't have that, and I don't know if I could same if that weren't the case.
 
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There are plenty of pro-choice mothers. But it is your body. It's ridiculously unfair that men can have sex without getting pregnant; it's your choice to have sex (assuming it's consensual), but it's not your choice to get impregnated. As you well know.

Now I wouldn't have an abortion if I got pregnant, but I'd be f**king miserable. But, I know my mom would help me take care of it. A lot of people don't have that, and I don't know if I could same if that weren't the case.

Then don't have sex because of the repercussions. That's simple, it's your choice to have sex knowin that the repercussion is having a child whether you like it or not because it's not your choice, it just happens. Unless you're on a mission to have a child, then obviously you're ready and mentally/emotionally prepared for a child... the PROPER way.

Ok now I'll shut up for sure and leave the thread in peace. Good night.
 
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There are plenty of pro-choice mothers. But it is your body. It's ridiculously unfair that men can have sex without getting pregnant (yes yes biology blah blah blah blah); it's your choice to have sex (assuming it's consensual), but it's not your choice to get impregnated. As you well know.

Now I wouldn't have an abortion if I got pregnant, but I'd be f**king miserable. But, I know my mom would help me take care of it. A lot of people don't have that, and I don't know if I could same if that weren't the case.


Of course we have no choice as to whether or not we get pregnant, but we know there's the risk. That's the whole gamble of having sex. There's always a chance. Is it fair that men can get away with not getting pregnant or dealig with the consequences? No. I'm not pro-life because I'm a mother, I'm pro-life because I don't believe in murder. If people want to chose, I won't stop them, if my best friend told me she was going to have an abortion, I would do my best to convince her otherwise but would support her regardless. I just can't help but think it's insensitive to say it's not murder, because in every sense of the word, it is. What this girl, Jackie, is doing, is a slow and exaggerated murder of 4 innocent babies.

It's our bodies, true, which mean it's our choice to do with it what we want. I fell in love, I did what i felt was right at the time. I'm blessed with a beautiful son. Is it hard? Yes. But it's a body, a connection you and your child share. If abortion wasn't legal, I'm sure people would be much more careful in that sense. They weren't ready to be mothers? Then don't have sex. And it doesn't matter if you're 16 or 60, you are never prepared to be a mother, never prepared for the feelings it will cause, the love you will feel, or the lengths you will go to in order to protect your children.
 
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Then don't have sex because of the repercussions. That's simple, it's your choice to have sex knowin that the repercussion is having a child whether you like it or not because it's not your choice, it just happens. Unless you're on a mission to have a child, then obviously you're ready and mentally/emotionally prepared for a child... the PROPER way.

Ok now I'll shut up for sure and leave the thread in peace. Good night.

f**king hypocrite.

It's not whether you like it or not, because obviously there's ways to avoid it.

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Of course we have no choice as to whether or not we get pregnant, but we know there's the risk. That's the whole gamble of having sex. There's always a chance. Is it fair that men can get away with not getting pregnant or dealig with the consequences? No. I'm not pro-life because I'm a mother, I'm pro-life because I don't believe in murder. If people want to chose, I won't stop them, if my best friend told me she was going to have an abortion, I would do my best to convince her otherwise but would support her regardless. I just can't help but think it's insensitive to say it's not murder, because in every sense of the word, it is. What this girl, Jackie, is doing, is a slow and exaggerated murder of 4 innocent babies.

It's our bodies, true, which mean it's our choice to do with it what we want. I fell in love, I did what i felt was right at the time. I'm blessed with a beautiful son. Is it hard? Yes. But it's a body, a connection you and your child share. If abortion wasn't legal, I'm sure people would be much more careful in that sense. They weren't ready to be mothers? Then don't have sex. And it doesn't matter if you're 16 or 60, you are never prepared to be a mother, never prepared for the feelings it will cause, the love you will feel, or the lengths you will go to in order to protect your children.

But it's not murder. And if abortion weren't legal, people wouldn't be more careful, we'd just have more people aborting their babies in ridiculously stupid ways like this Jackie. And it's impossible to know whether you're really ready to be a mother, whether you think you are or not. You didn't think you were at 15, but handled it. Other women want children, and are horrible mothers. Too many damn variables.

Now can we all stop arguing with me? I don't give a f**k if you're anti-choice, I fully understand your position, just happen to disagree, and for god's sake that's not what this topic is about.
 
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It's something called CONDOMS

 
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well i would first of all protect myself so i wouldnt end up PREGNANT but damn wth.. wow crazy bitch, anyway i would just
have the damn kid.. it would be MY fault for not bein that responsible.. << which is why most teens shouldnt even have sex
sex shouldnt happen between two people who dont know shit, and who arent responsible enough to deal with the consequences that come with making love..damn i mean if your "old enough" to have sex then you are old enough to have a baby and take care of it and people who disagree with that shouldnt be having sex.. mellow.gif

edit: so many f**kin women out there suffering from like problems that dont allow them to make babies.. so many women out here who cant concieve a baby and really would make great mothers but cant make one of there own when they really want too.. and all these STUPID ass girls f**kin and aborting/not being careful when there pregnant.. its ashame..
 
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wow...after how many years "evolution" hence the quotes ;)
and technological advances...people still dont get the effin point ...

CONDOMS can be USED FOR MORE THAN JUST WATER BALLOONS!!!!
and last time i check people had heads for more than just a hat rack ;)

sounds to me like this chick needs a mental evalutation and a therapist.
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she should just get a female vasectomy [I forgot the female word, so I used vasectomy] because I wouldnt feel safe if she had ANY children
 
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she should just get a female vasectomy [I forgot the female word, so I used vasectomy] because I would feel safe if she had ANY children

Or... just commit suicide as she's nothin but a meat hole.
 
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ok, i really think, and i'm not a doc or anything, but it really does sound like she is seeking attention but also pity from everyone. what's depressing is the fact that her friends are "helping" her with the abortion by drinking with her. instead of either telling her parents about her 4 pregnancies and methods of abortion, they were condoning it and assisting. talk about a dr. kevorkian session.

i seriously think that this teen is actually lacking affection and attention at home. no person would ever have 4 pregnancies and never see a medical physician for each. i personally think that she has been lying about the pregnancies only to gain some friends to hang out and drink with, and feel sorry for her.

speaking of the drinking, someone refer her to AA. if she feels she has to drink just to "abort" a pregnancy, then i don't think she was pregnant to begin with.
 
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someone needs to slap that bitch

or the right guy just needs to f**k her, and get her pregnant, and lock her up, so she won't do anything stupid, and force her to have a child, then the child can suck her tits for milk. then the guy can repeat the process three more times. and four kids will be born, and we would all forget about the previous 4 embryos that she killed.
 
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lol but its kinda sad how we dont know her and we are saying things like this ermm.gif
 
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It's funny how the same people who are arguing against her "killing" her potential children are saying she should kill herself. Just..ironic.

She's stupid. That's too many times. Absolute idiot.
But, one question -- what kind of sex education do you have at your school? Do they tech you enough about contraceptives, or do they teach abstinence-only (like my school stubborn.gif)?
 
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Thats horrible! Well, out of all honesty I think I'd keep the child. I could never bring myself to abort because it wasn't their fault that they were conceived. mellow.gif At this age, I'm in no position to support them so I think I'd put them up for adoption and put them into the right hands.
 
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[font="verdana"][size=1]It's funny how the same people who are arguing against her "killing" her potential children are saying she should kill herself. Just..ironic.

Obviously a murderer deserves to die. Don't think too hard now.
 
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Abortion isn't murder. They weren't alive yet.

Which is not to defend this girl at all, just saying. I'd stop being a whore. I'd use protection. I'd deal with shit and have the baby, or abort it in the proper way. You know, safely. But I'd never be in her situation because I'm not a f**king idiot.

I also can't believe her friends would drink with her to get rid of it, either. How dumb do you have to be not tell your friend that that's no way to deal with things, and get her real help? I wouldn't participate in that shit.


By the time people find out their pregnant, it's living completely.
And it's been living since conception.
 
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She probably thinks it's fun to squash babies.
 
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It's funny how the same people who are arguing against her "killing" her potential children are saying she should kill herself. Just..ironic.

She's stupid. That's too many times. Absolute idiot.
But, one question -- what kind of sex education do you have at your school? Do they tech you enough about contraceptives, or do they teach abstinence-only (like my school stubborn.gif )?



Well we're an all girls CATHOLIC school, so they teach us mostly abstinence only, but there have been a few speakers who talk about safe sex and what to do in situations if you were pregnant and your options.
 
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By the time people find out their pregnant, it's living completely.
And it's been living since conception.

We've been over this. Bad wording on my part. Living, but not human. Not able to survive on its own. A parasite.

Ants are living. Does that stop you from killing them?
 
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Holy crap! Is she like mentally retarded!?!
I think she needs to learn what a C-O-N-D-O-M is.


thats just what i was going to say haha
 

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