Mozart makes you smartical! Options

[LoveToMySilas]

In 1993 researchers from the University of Wisconsin and UC Irvine discoved that listening to a Mozart Sonata increased IQ. This idea called the "Mozart Effect" has been confirmed by various studies around the world.

The study suggested that IQ rises 8 to 9 points when listening to Mozart compared to silence. Other studies have suggested improved test scores after listening to Mozart Piano Concertos. Why does this occur?

More about it: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/3...ou_smarter.html

My teacher told me about this earlier before and I tried it, it actually worked for me. I was surprised.

[stephinika]

I think I'll need to listen to a crapload of Mozart to get through my finals. Ack.

[illriginal]

I believe it... I want my lady to put head phones on her belly for my children to listen to classical music. Classical music in itself is poetic and powerful.

[transcendentalis...]

I believe it... I want my lady to put head phones on her belly for my children to listen to classical music. Classical music in itself is poetic and powerful.

I actually have a friend whose mom listened to a lot of classical music and put headphones on her stomach while she was pregnant (with all three of her kids) and they are damn smart... and very musically talented, but they were also pushed into music lessons when they were all three. They played classical music every single day in the house for hours.

They're also extremely hardworking, so that probably plays in some, too. :P

[illriginal]

I actually have a friend whose mom listened to a lot of classical music and put headphones on her stomach while she was pregnant (with all three of her kids) and they are damn smart... and very musically talented, but they were also pushed into music lessons when they were all three. They played classical music every single day in the house for hours.

They're also extremely hardworking, so that probably plays in some, too. :P

Yeah my two lil cousins are extremely smart and my aunt did the same thing, headphones on the belly.

[tokyo-rose]

My teacher told me about this earlier before and I tried it, it actually worked for me. I was surprised.

How do you know it worked?

I've heard about this before but haven't tried it. I probably will sometime.

[Simba]

Time to download some Mozart.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

My kids are going to listen to instrumental Symphony X or Dream Theatre. In a hope that that would be more effective.

[LoveToMySilas]

I've always wanted to try the headphones on the belly thing, but I'll save that for when I'm preggo. Ah and Cristy, it worked cause I usually fail or nearly pass some of my test but after listening to a little mozart before bed I did better! Or maybe the test was easy.

[illriginal]

I've always wanted to try the headphones on the belly thing, but I'll save that for when I'm preggo. Ah and Cristy, it worked cause I usually fail or nearly pass some of my test but after listening to a little mozart before bed I did better! Or maybe the test was easy.

Yeah Bach, Mozart etc... that classical music (not the new stuff really) has vibrating notes supposedly that makes your brain absorb wavelengths you can't even imagine. But I dunno how they came up with that conclusion. Regardless, it works

[JokeInsideJoke]

thats kind of crazy...jut by listening to a dead guy's music you get semi-smarter...

[foxx]

My parents did that to me, and they read to me so much i was reading by 3.
They did the whole headphones-on-belly thing.
yeah.
...

[Smarmosaur]

My kids are going to listen to instrumental Symphony X or Dream Theater*. In a hope that that would be more effective.

f**k yes. Dream Theater does make me think a bit harder. not to mention they're the best thing since sliced bread.

[Simba]

Yeah Bach, Mozart etc... that classical music (not the new stuff really) has vibrating notes supposedly that makes your brain absorb wavelengths you can't even imagine. But I dunno how they came up with that conclusion. Regardless, it works

I just have a guess on this, but it might be because most modern music is made with digital equipment these days, and many audiophiles say that digital sound isn't even real sound, but a series of 1010111001 or whatever. Anyway, older music was recorded on analog equipment, such as vinyl, which, when you play a real vinyl record on a turntable, you are hearing the actual vibrations of the grooves on the vinyl.

Supposedly, when you're listening to vinyl, rather than a CD or an mp3, you're hearing/feeling vibes that you don't get with digital equipment. This may be why analog mixers are some of the most popular in night clubs; the sound is "warmer" than with digital mixers and dancers get the vibe to dance more.

Those ideas wouldn't be exclusive to classical music, though.

That's just some stuff I've read before, though. I don't really know about the validity of that information, but it doesn't sound too far off to me. =P

[transcendentalis...]

That was way too deep.

[austinoutloud]

You spelled "smarticle" wrong.




JK.



I'm so going to do the headphones thing with my kids. They'll be geniuses.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

f**k yes. Dream Theater does make me think a bit harder. not to mention they're the best thing since sliced bread.

Everyone else spells it Theater. I spell everything in an old english sort of way. Like I write "colour."

Yes I do hate being corrected, no matter how subtle. Its not incorrect, just different.

[JokeInsideJoke]

My parents did that to me, and they read to me so much i was reading by 3.
They did the whole headphones-on-belly thing.
yeah.
...

did it work?!

[illriginal]

I just have a guess on this, but it might be because most modern music is made with digital equipment these days, and many audiophiles say that digital sound isn't even real sound, but a series of 1010111001 or whatever. Anyway, older music was recorded on analog equipment, such as vinyl, which, when you play a real vinyl record on a turntable, you are hearing the actual vibrations of the grooves on the vinyl.

Supposedly, when you're listening to vinyl, rather than a CD or an mp3, you're hearing/feeling vibes that you don't get with digital equipment. This may be why analog mixers are some of the most popular in night clubs; the sound is "warmer" than with digital mixers and dancers get the vibe to dance more.

Those ideas wouldn't be exclusive to classical music, though.

That's just some stuff I've read before, though. I don't really know about the validity of that information, but it doesn't sound too far off to me. =P

Damn dood... I gotta find the link, that's exactly what they were talkin about. That digital music is only computer language while the real classical music was... well natural vibrations.

[tokyo-rose]

Ah and Cristy, it worked cause I usually fail or nearly pass some of my test but after listening to a little mozart before bed I did better! Or maybe the test was easy.

Haha, okay. Cool. :)

Arjuna: That sounds like a plausible theory. Awesome.

[Smarmosaur]

Everyone else spells it Theater. I spell everything in an old english sort of way. Like I write "colour."

Yes I do hate being corrected, no matter how subtle. Its not incorrect, just different.

i know it's the correct english way, i corrected it because it's how the band spells the name.

[demolished]

I just have a guess on this, but it might be because most modern music is made with digital equipment these days, and many audiophiles say that digital sound isn't even real sound, but a series of 1010111001 or whatever. Anyway, older music was recorded on analog equipment, such as vinyl, which, when you play a real vinyl record on a turntable, you are hearing the actual vibrations of the grooves on the vinyl.

Supposedly, when you're listening to vinyl, rather than a CD or an mp3, you're hearing/feeling vibes that you don't get with digital equipment. This may be why analog mixers are some of the most popular in night clubs; the sound is "warmer" than with digital mixers and dancers get the vibe to dance more.

Those ideas wouldn't be exclusive to classical music, though.

That's just some stuff I've read before, though. I don't really know about the validity of that information, but it doesn't sound too far off to me. =P

I don’t get it. How the headphone does have any effect on infant anyways? At the same time you mentioned:

Supposedly, when you're listening to vinyl, rather than a
CD or an mp3, you're hearing/feeling vibes that you don't get with digital
equipment.

Some members even mentioned the working result. Aren’t the music from headphones is digital? The music you hear from the headphone aren’t "REAL" music either because it's modify?

[Simba]

I don’t get it. How the headphone does have any effect on infant anyways?

Well, I didn't really mention anything about babies, but... The same reason that alcohol, smoking, the mother eating, or any other activity performed by the mother during the baby's time in the womb affects it. I can't cite any sources or anything at the moment that could prove that baby's can "absorb sound waves" or whatever, but it seems plausible to me.

Some members even mentioned the working result. Aren’t the music from headphones is digital? The music you hear from the headphone aren’t "REAL" music either because it's modify?

Whether the music is digital or analog depends on what's producing the sound. In other words, headphones aren't even producing the sound, just amplifying whatever the source might be, whether it's a turntable (analog), or an mp3 player (digital).

So to answer your question/s, depends what the headphones are hooked up to.

[illriginal]

Some members even mentioned the working result. Aren’t the music from headphones is digital? The music you hear from the headphone aren’t "REAL" music either because it's modify?

Head phones are just an output device =\

[ToxicTaco]

if the theory applies, i would be a genius by now.
and guess what
Im not.
also if it applies doesn't DMX make you retarted XD

[Be-Faithful]

mozart ruuuuuuuuulz

[shoryuken]

wen tha baby inn bellly... me ginnaa LET ONEE RIP everryytimee...

More about it: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/3...ou_smarter.html

My teacher told me about this earlier before and I tried it, it actually worked for me. I was surprised.

HAHAHAHA.... HHAAHHA
ppll 2dayy luv makin shiet up...

[arghrawr]

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I've been listening to Mozart since I was seven and I think I've gotten dumber over the years. Time to eradicate all my Nirvana stuff completely.

[illriginal]

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I've been listening to Mozart since I was seven and I think I've gotten dumber over the years. Time to eradicate all my Nirvana stuff completely.

I think it only applies between fetus to birth, not afterwards.

[Simba]

I think it only applies between fetus to birth, not afterwards.

I'd be inclined to disagree...

[shoryuken]

I'd be inclined to disagree...

well... me iilcninline 2 agggre bietch..

[Melissa]

I just have a guess on this, but it might be because most modern music is made with digital equipment these days, and many audiophiles say that digital sound isn't even real sound, but a series of 1010111001 or whatever. Anyway, older music was recorded on analog equipment, such as vinyl, which, when you play a real vinyl record on a turntable, you are hearing the actual vibrations of the grooves on the vinyl.

Supposedly, when you're listening to vinyl, rather than a CD or an mp3, you're hearing/feeling vibes that you don't get with digital equipment. This may be why analog mixers are some of the most popular in night clubs; the sound is "warmer" than with digital mixers and dancers get the vibe to dance more.

Those ideas wouldn't be exclusive to classical music, though.

That's just some stuff I've read before, though. I don't really know about the validity of that information, but it doesn't sound too far off to me. =P

That would be more interesting if not for the fact that back in Mozart's day, there weren't vinyls or recording equipment. Most of the Mozart and other classical music we hear today are recorded directly to tape or CD because it's another artist (in our time period) playing classical music. Unless, of course, if you're listening to Horowitz (or another really old and possibly dead musician).

Hm. I've played piano for fourteen-fifteen years and, yeah, I've heard many things about how it's supposed to help you. Supposedly, musicians are supposed to be innately better at math - I really didn't find that the case at all. I have no clue if it actually made me smarter, but I know it definitely taught me something about work ethic. I used to practice around 3-5 hours a day back in high school, more if I was preparing for a competition. I also think it helped with my memory - what with memorizing so many pages of music and stuff.

[Simba]

That would be more interesting if not for the fact that back in Mozart's day, there weren't vinyls or recording equipment. Most of the Mozart and other classical music we hear today are recorded directly to tape or CD because it's another artist (in our time period) playing classical music. Unless, of course, if you're listening to Horowitz (or another really old and possibly dead musician).

Well, I was talking about analog overall, not just vinyl or other analog mediums. In fact, the piano itself, the flute itself, the violin itself, or whatever other instrument, would probably be "analog" in it's purest form, so to say.

[demolished]

I still cannot believe instrument players become smarter. What causes them to become more intelligent? Memorization of notes and pages?

That’s all?

[heyo-captain-jac...]

I still cannot believe instrument players become smarter. What causes them to become more intelligent? Memorization of notes and pages?

That’s all?

Probably yes. But it still hasn't helped my math.

[freeridefight]

I still cannot believe instrument players become smarter. What causes them to become more intelligent? Memorization of notes and pages?

That’s all?

Along with that, plus your brain picks up on the intricate ways that composers use techniques to make you feel or notice something. As you play it, your brain picks that up and develops new ways to tackle problems. I notice that when I play, I notice new things and it somehow makes me smarter.

well, thats my two cents.

[Simba]

I still cannot believe instrument players become smarter. What causes them to become more intelligent? Memorization of notes and pages?

That’s all?

What freeridefight said, for the most part. It's a good way to exercise your brain (and its different functions).

[demolished]

So, music has nothing to do with IQ besides Mozart? It's the instrument itself?

Wow! I thought it was just "music" that magically increases your intelligence. I'm WRONG.

[illriginal]

For the record, the findings for this study have never been able to be replicated, so I wouldn't buy into this too much.

Well given the fact that digitalized music began in the mid 80s, I could imagine it would be hard to replicate.

Apparently like I have mentioned before, it is the vibration that's produced by the instrument that causes a child to sort of... open their gate of knowledge.

[illriginal]

Do you know what I meant by failed to replicate? People who tried to repeat the study (for consistency) did NOT get the same results which Rauscher, Shaw & Kay published in '93. Really, take any psych class and you'll find that the results studies need to be able to be replicated in order for the claim to be even considered valid--and that the Mozart Effect is a PRIME example of one that fails to do exactly that.

Music was digitalized before that... Just a heads up. There's really no point in arguing this(nor was it my intent to make this into a debate). I mean it's not like we're saying it's a fact that a fetus who listens to mozart (or classical music in general) to the point of birth are born as geniuses.

[Melissa]

Music was digitalized before that... Just a heads up. There's really no point in arguing this(nor was it my intent to make this into a debate). I mean it's not like we're saying it's a fact that a fetus who listens to mozart (or classical music in general) to the point of birth are born as geniuses.

I think you're kind of missing her point.

A successful psychological experiment should be able to be replicated with similar, successful results. This one hasn't.

And you said yourself that

it is the vibration that's produced by the instrument that causes a child to sort of... open their gate of knowledge.

I thought we weren't stating anything as if it were a fact?

[illriginal]

I think you're kind of missing her point.

A successful psychological experiment should be able to be replicated with similar, successful results. This one hasn't.

And you said yourself that
I thought we weren't stating anything as if it were a fact?

No... it is a claim that has been made, and I sort of understand it. I don't exactly know the science of how it works. There can be many probabilities...

Oh and just a heads up, I've studied psychology and sociology. Psychology was gonna be my minor at first but I decided since I had some personal time, I could study it on my own time.

[Melissa]

Good job. It's an interesting subject. I'm currently majoring in Psych (spec Neuroscience & Behavior).

[illriginal]

Good job. It's an interesting subject. I'm currently majoring in Psych (spec Neuroscience & Behavior).

<,< If you get access to any psycho-drugs... let me know

jk

[beebeeutler]

I'm doing a paper on the Mozart Effect.

The catch is that we have to make a EXTREME claim about it so this is what I said...

• Mozart Effect dramatically changes the intelligence levels in children of all ages. As Mozart Effect is proven true hence, Gynecologist and other neonatal physicians should mandatorily begin to surgically insert microscopic music players into the womb of pregnant women. In order to begin the effect in the aptitude of the children without delay.

I know! Its totally messed up!! No one would ever do that... but I'm just doing my homework.

Anyways, I was hoping to get some input on the subject of 'inserting the microscopic music players"

:)