Marines Are Not Soldiers, You retards. Options

[fameONE]

Brandon doesn't know anything about overseas soldiers.

You're right. I'm not a Soldier, nor do I work with the Army. I can pass on information about Marines and green-side Sailors, though

[pandora]

Hey Steven, I think you spelled "Marines" wrong. It's M-A-R-I-N-E-S, not S-O-L-D-I-E-R-S. Just in case you didn't catch that. Just returning the favor :]

[illriginal]

Hey Steven, I think you spelled "Marines" wrong. It's M-A-R-I-N-E-S, not S-O-L-D-I-E-R-S. Just in case you didn't catch that. Just returning the favor :]

pandora... a soldier is just a general term used for anyone in the military. You know... Army, Marines, Air Force, NAVY =\

[*Steven*]

Hey Steven, I think you spelled "Marines" wrong. It's M-A-R-I-N-E-S, not S-O-L-D-I-E-R-S. Just in case you didn't catch that. Just returning the favor :]

No, I think I meant to put soldiers. Try again princess.

[pandora]

Wow, fail. I'd like to see you call a marine a soldier to their face.

[fameONE]

pandora... a soldier is just a general term used for anyone in the military. You know... Army, Marines, Air Force, NAVY =\

No, I think I meant to put soldiers. Try again princess.

Wrong. Fail.

[illriginal]

Wow, fail. I'd like to see you call a marine a soldier to their face.

What the hell... what does it matter... soldier is a person enlisted into the military. A militant.. it doesn't matter if they're a Marine or not... they're still a soldier.

[pandora]

The one time my friend and I called my ex's dad a soldier, he only had to remind us once: Marines and Sailors are not Soldiers. Soldiers come from the Army. Ever call a Marine a soldier, you might as well sign the death certificate yourself.

[illriginal]

Wrong. Fail.

If you're a Marine... you're a Marine Corps Soldier... wtf.

[fameONE]

What the hell... what does it matter... soldier is a person enlisted into the military. A militant.. it doesn't matter if they're a Marine or not... they're still a soldier.

If you're a Marine... you're a Marine Corps Soldier... wtf.

Wrong again. You were in the military? You said you were. Hmm, I no longer believe you.

Let's break this down, shall we?

Marine Corps - Marine
Navy - Sailor
Army - Soldier
Air Force - Airman

Simple enough?

[illriginal]

Wrong again. You were in the military? You said you were. Hmm, I no longer believe you.

Let's break this down, shall we?

Marine Corps - Marine
Navy - Sailor
Army - Soldier
Air Force - Airman

Simple enough?

The one time my friend and I called my ex's dad a soldier, he only had to remind us once: Marines and Sailors are not Soldiers. Soldiers come from the Army. Ever call a Marine a soldier, you might as well sign the death certificate yourself.

Wait... soldier is just when someone is dressed out in military fatigues. That's when they're in combat mode. Either way they're a soldier. You should address them 'Marine, Sailor etc.. when they're dressed into their proper uniform.

[pandora]

Ok, Tama just go to your nearest friendly Marine Corps base and try your luck at calling one of the Marines there a soldier. I'll pray for you.

[fameONE]

Wait... soldier is just when someone is dressed out in military fatigues. That's when they're in combat mode. Either way they're a soldier. You should address them 'Marine, Sailor etc.. when they're dressed into their proper uniform.

Negative. It doesn't work like that. You're distinguished based on the branch in which you serve. In a Marine Corps utility uniform, I'm still a Marine. If a Sailor, who is a Corpsman (Navy medical, works with Marines), is in combat utilities, he's still a Sailor.

[pandora]

Damn, if my ex ever made the mistake of calling his dad a soldier, he got popped in the mouth as a kid.

[fameONE]

Damn, if my ex ever made the mistake of calling his dad a soldier, he got popped in the mouth as a kid.

I have a long line of scarlet and gold in veins. Growing up, I wouldn't dare get it confused, or I got popped in the mouth. Tama, maybe you should get popped in the mouth. Don't worry, it builds character.

[illriginal]

Negative. It doesn't work like that. You're distinguished based on the branch in which you serve. In a Marine Corps utility uniform, I'm still a Marine. If a Sailor, who is a Corpsman (Navy medical, works with Marines), is in combat utilities, he's still a Sailor.

Hm... I see, I only spent 4 years in the NAVY. (Enlisted right after Bush took over presidency)

I have a long line of scarlet and gold in veins. Growing up, I wouldn't dare get it confused, or I got popped in the mouth. Tama, maybe you should get popped in the mouth. Don't worry, it builds character.

Yeh... been popped in the mouth before, but after that... I learned stabbing people does the trick.

[pandora]

Well then you're an idiot. And I believe the blanket term for people fighting in all four branches is "troops."

[illriginal]

Well then you're an idiot. And I believe the blanket term for people fighting in all four branches is "troops."

See.. name calling. Then you bust my balls because of it. And yes troops is the proper term, I was taught to believe that so was soldier when they're in military fatigue/ combat mode.

[fameONE]

Hm... I see, I only spent 4 years in the NAVY. (Enlisted right after Bush took over presidency)
Yeh... been popped in the mouth before, but after that... I learned stabbing people does the trick.

What was your MOS?

Don't incriminate yourself now, the feds are watching. Remember the sex thread?

[pandora]

Then someone wanted you to get your ass kicked by teaching you that.

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Actually, I don't have a hard time believing that someone wanted you to get your ass kicked so badly they taught you to call a marine a soldier.

[illriginal]

What was your MOS?

Don't incriminate yourself now, the feds are watching. Remember the sex thread?

Data Systems Specialist. I'm a PC nerd... wutcha expect.

Luckily I got a 84 on my ASVAB cuz there's nothin else I wanted to do.

[*Steven*]

The fake one?


Tisk tisk, this thread has really gone askew. I do believe this would be considered spam. But that's just me.

No I don't care but don't bitch about spamming if you're going to spam too.

[pandora]

Topic Split.

[fameONE]

Eeeeenteresting.

Where did you get the notion that all servicemen in combat utilities were Soldiers, though? That was some bad guidance.

[*Steven*]

So next time spam ensues, why not just split it from the topic and the conversation can continue there ^.~

[pandora]

Because not all spam has a point worthy of its own topic. I don't need you to tell me how to mod, Steven. You're starting to look like ye ole Thomas. Not a good look.

[fameONE]

So next time spam ensues, why not just split it from the topic and the conversation can continue there ^.~

Drop it. When you're on staff again, you can be the one to take action. K?

[*Steven*]

I'll drop it and pick it up when I see fit :) It was a good suggestion, as a lot of spam is side tracked conversation that would be fine in a thread of it's own.

Anyways, not to spam again, would y'all say that there are absolutely no soldiers in Japan?

[fameONE]

I'll drop it and pick it up when I see fit :) It was a good suggestion, as a lot of spam is side tracked conversation that would be fine in a thread of it's own.

Anyways, not to spam again, would y'all say that there are absolutely no soldiers in Japan?

Soldiers train up at White Beach and Torii Station here on Okinawa. They also have a Communications brigade somewhere in the boonies. There aren't many of them.

[*Steven*]

But would it be safe to say that there are soldiers in Japan (which I think is considered overseas? correct me if I'm wrong)?

[fameONE]

But would it be safe to say that there are soldiers in Japan (which I think is considered overseas? correct me if I'm wrong)?

You're splitting hairs, kid.

[*Steven*]

I'll take that as a yes.

[pandora]

Yes, but what the f**k does that have to do with Brandon? His job doesn't require him to know wtf soldiers are up to.

[fameONE]

Yes, but what the f**k does that have to do with Brandon? His job doesn't require him to know wtf soldiers are up to.

You catch on quick.

[*Steven*]

OOOO OOOO OOO PICK ME PICK ME!!

[pandora]

Keep in mind that I'm part of a unit (and work in the 3d MLG Chief of Staff's office) that oversees the Pacific Theater of operations for Marine Corps and Naval personnel.

No where does that say "Army." You lose.

[fameONE]

I see you lurkin' at me, woman.

[pandora]

[*Steven*]

No where does that say "Army." You lose.

Not necessarily. One would think that being in the Navy would give you and understanding of the other four branches, or at least know some of the generalities that apply to all 4 branches. Not to say I'm taking his side or anything, just that statement was full of fail.

Brandon doesn't know anything about overseas soldiers.

No I'm just kidding he's stationed in Japan.

Soldiers train up at White Beach and Torii Station here on Okinawa. They also have a Communications brigade somewhere in the boonies. There aren't many of them.

So when I said I'm kidding, and he said that about the soldiers at White Beach, could that have possibly validated my previous statement? Just sayin.

[fameONE]

Not necessarily. One would think that being in the Navy would give you
So when I said I'm kidding, and he said that about the soldiers at White Beach, could that have possibly validated my previous statement? Just sayin.

I never said there weren't Soldiers here, I just said I didn't know anything about 'em. As a serviceman stationed here, we all know where the bases are, just in case. That doesn't mean I go there and kick it with some guy they call Sarge.

[*Steven*]

Saying you don't know anything is an absolute. You apparently know something, as you told us what you knew :D

[fameONE]

BEGIN: RELATIVE_TRUTH

From now on, I'll be clear on the statements I make. Just so you know, for sure, that it is relative or absolute.

END: RELATIVE_TRUTH

[*Steven*]

Thanks, mang! Clarity is always a good thing. That's why I use Proactive! I like to be clean and clear!

[pandora]

ok we have a very specific naming convention. it's Begin: relativeTruth, and End: relativeTruth.


Then any other identifiers are used like so:

relativeTruth_Ftw

[fameONE]

ok we have a very specific naming convention. it's Begin: relativeTruth, and End: relativeTruth.

Don't sass me, woman.

[pandora]

IM ON TOP.

[*Steven*]

BEGIN: RELATIVE_TRUTH

From now on, I'll be clear on the statements I make. Just so you know, for sure, that it is relative or absolute.

END: RELATIVE_TRUTH

ok we have a very specific naming convention. it's Begin: relativeTruth, and End: relativeTruth.

Oh okay, good thing you clarified that. I had no clue what Brandon was saying, what with the whole caps beginning and ending before and after his statement. I mean, wtf is that shit?

[fameONE]

IM ON TOP.

Keep riding.

Back on topic, Marines were once regarded as the 'Soldiers of the Sea.' That was back in the olden days, though. Times change.

[illriginal]

Not to start a debate... but this is from a Marine himself:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/dickg/soldier.html

The term Soldier can be used as a general term to identify any serviceman or woman.

=\

Keep riding.

Back on topic, Marines were once regarded as the 'Soldiers of the Sea.' That was back in the olden days, though. Times change.

Actually not really... it never has changed.

It's the sense of pride in which a serviceman or woman woul dmuch rather be addressed to their branch. That's all.

[fameONE]

Not to start a debate... but this is from a Marine himself:
http://www.angelfire.com/ca/dickg/soldier.html

The term Soldier can be used as a general term to identify any serviceman or woman.

=\
Actually not really... it never has changed.

Don't post at the same time as me, sea-dog! Shit.

It still stands. Many Marines find it offensive to be called the 's' word.

[*Steven*]

No, you're wrong Tamacracker. That term died in 1962.

http://www.amazon.com/Soldiers-Sea-United-...s/dp/1877853011

[illriginal]

Don't post at the same time as me, sea-dog! Shit.

It still stands. Many Marines find it offensive to be called the 's' word.

Yar out of pride... which blankets them with a bit of ignorance because they're still a soldier in general terms, not specific terms.

No, you're wrong Tamacracker. That term died in 1962.

http://www.amazon.com/Soldiers-Sea-United-...s/dp/1877853011

Erm... isn't that just about how the Marines were born into having their own Branch?... nothin really about how the general term, "soldier" was abolished specifically for Marines? =\

[fameONE]

I'm going to bed, kids. Peace.

[*Steven*]

But who will back Trish up? Or will she be strong enough by herself? Or will she retreat, too?

[illriginal]

But who will back Trish up? Or will she be strong enough by herself? Or will she retreat, too?

I say retreat... but I gotta go to work myself.. have 5 minutes to get dressed o.o;

[pandora]

Roflmfao you spelled "balls" wrong. Don't know if you caught that.

[Melie]

in my experience and teachings in the army, there is a significant distinguishment between the two. you can never tell a marine that they are a soldier because they feel that the term "soldier" only applies to army. being called a marine is a honor for them. just the same as a sailor and airman. now a days, if someone asks if you're a soldier, the first assumption is that they're asking if you're army. its best to say that all service members are not soldiers but their own entity.

soldier-army
marine-marine
airman-airforce
sailor-navy

btw...steven, go ahead and critize all you want about what i'm saying but guess what, i'm always an army veteran first before an army wife. and yes, i worked a desk job but i also worked the front lines so a little respect should be given to all military members, past or present, no matter what they are.

[*Steven*]

in my experience and teachings in the army, there is a significant distinguishment between the two. you can never tell a marine that they are a soldier because they feel that the term "soldier" only applies to army. being called a marine is a honor for them. just the same as a sailor and airman. now a days, if someone asks if you're a soldier, the first assumption is that they're asking if you're army. its best to say that all service members are not soldiers but their own entity.

soldier-army
marine-marine
airman-airforce
sailor-navy

btw...steven, go ahead and critize all you want about what i'm saying but guess what, i'm always an army veteran first before an army wife. and yes, i worked a desk job but i also worked the front lines so a little respect should be given to all military members, past or present, no matter what they are.

We've been over this, fatty. Point out to me where I said that soldiers and Marines were a synonymous term. Oh wait, I never did. There are, however, soldiers (ARMY ZOMG) stationed in Japan, as Brandon confirmed.

[pandora]

they dont put women on the front lines...

[*Steven*]

Wait for it...

[Melie]

i apologize but i didn't direct that whole thing to you steven. it was posted as a general but there's no need to call me names because that's definitely not my name.
you're right, women are not allowed in the front lines. i used the wrong term on that. but still, back to the topic at hand, respect should be given to each service member by calling each by their respective title.

[*Steven*]

We went over this earlier. Clarify! YOU MUST CLARIFY AND ADD BEGINNING AND ENDINGS FOR WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING IN RELATIVE AND ABSOLUTE TERMS!

[pandora]

and please use my awesome naming convention, kthx.

[*Steven*]

No but I kid, I declare 'VICTOLY' (Get it, Brandon?)

[Melie]

i'm sorry again. i had no understanding of that.

[*Steven*]

and please use my awesome naming convention, kthx.

I see you're quite versed in the art of sarcasm, too!

[illriginal]

they dont put women on the front lines...

Shhhh... I'm watching the hole being dug :X

When there's a group of servicemen and women... whether they're in the ARMY, NAVY, Marines, Air Force... it is actually ok to use the term "soldiers" or "troops"

That's all I'm sayin on my part.

[ArtofBreaking]

sol·dier (sōl'jər)
n.
1. One who serves in an army.
2. An enlisted person or a noncommissioned officer.
3. An active, loyal, or militant follower of an organization.

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[illriginal]

sol·dier (sōl'jər)
n.
1. One who serves in an army.
2. An enlisted person or a noncommissioned officer.
3. An active, loyal, or militant follower of an organization.

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sol·dier /ˈsoʊldʒər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sohl-jer] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a person who serves in an army; a person engaged in military service.
2. an enlisted man or woman, as distinguished from a commissioned officer: the soldiers' mess and the officers' mess.
3. a person of military skill or experience: George Washington was a great soldier.
4. a person who contends or serves in any cause: a soldier of the Lord.

[ArtofBreaking]

So I left out Military? That doesnt distinguish which branch.

The term soldier, as read in the dictionary, would apply to all branches of the Military.

[illriginal]

So I left out Military? That doesnt distinguish which branch.

The term soldier, as read in the dictionary, would apply to all branches of the Military.

Should give full definition... but no big deal.

[Sumiaki]

Lol? I pay you for your service. So if I want to call you [filtered] soldier, I'm going to call you a [filtered] soldier. It's like when all those [filtered] pacific islanders say "I'm not [filtered] Asian, I'm [filtered] pacific islander. God."

[*Steven*]

You know, it's easier to type f**king instead of [filtered]

[illriginal]

Lol? I pay you for your service. So if I want to call you [filtered] soldier, I'm going to call you a [filtered] soldier. It's like when all those [filtered] pacific islanders say "I'm not [filtered] Asian, I'm [filtered] pacific islander. God."

LOL

[Tung]

btw...steven, go ahead and critize all you want about what i'm saying but guess what, i'm always an army veteran first before an army wife. and yes, i worked a desk job but i also worked the front lines so a little respect should be given to all military members, past or present, no matter what they are.

please sit down.

[Sumiaki]

You know, it's easier to type f**king instead of [filtered]

A habit I got from frequenting other forums.

[pandora]

Lol? I pay you for your service. So if I want to call you [filtered] soldier, I'm going to call you a [filtered] soldier. It's like when all those [filtered] pacific islanders say "I'm not [filtered] Asian, I'm [filtered] pacific islander. God."

Wow good job you close minded f**k. That's great, you pay your doctor for their service, doesn't mean you can call him a dentist.

[xoxoxx]

that's kind of scary...

if i called a marine a soldier, they would seriously beat me up?

what's a seal?

[pandora]

rofl... the Seals are the l33t special operations forces of the U.S. Navy. they deal with "unconventional" warfare.

[ArtofBreaking]

^That would be Special Operations Command.

And of the Marines I know who served, in my family as well as friends, wouldn't be offended if you called them a Soldier. They at least are intelligent enough to understand what it is.
I'm being very literal here with the term 'Soldier.'

[xoxoxx]

so do marines deal with water...?

marine reminds me of oceans.

[illriginal]

^That would be Special Operations Command.

And of the Marines I know who served, in my family as well as friends, wouldn't be offended if you called them a Soldier. They at least are intelligent enough to understand what it is.
I'm being very literal here with the term 'Soldier.'

Yeah I've never had a problem with calling a Marine a soldier. And we transported many across seas -.-

From the Hawaiian islands to Japan, to be more specific.

Wow good job you close minded f**k. That's great, you pay your doctor for their service, doesn't mean you can call him a dentist.

but if he was a dentist and you call him a doctor.. that's ok cuz he's obviously a doctor.

[pandora]

But not the other way around, obviously.

[illriginal]

But not the other way around, obviously.

Yar

[pandora]

so do marines deal with water...?

marine reminds me of oceans.

the marines used to be the part of the navy that would fight on land. the navy deals with water.

someone correct me if im wrong.

[*Steven*]

The army drinks water.

[illriginal]

the marines used to be the part of the navy that would fight on land. the navy deals with water.

someone correct me if im wrong.

Pretty much... Marines are a mix between NAVY and Army. Think of NAVY daddy having sex with mommy Army, and then baaaam Marines are born :D

[pandora]

The army drinks water.

[ArtofBreaking]

Marines deal with numerous water drops (insertion via chopper) Land insertion (via boat). Basically there isn't just one insertion technique, so you can't really say they only deal with this or that.

Edit:
I left out extraction. So just include that in there too.

[pandora]

I don't believe I was implying that (if you're talking to me).

[illriginal]

Marines deal with numerous water drops (insertion via chopper) Land insertion (via boat). Basically there isn't just one insertion technique, so you can't really say they only deal with this or that.

Edit:
I left out extraction. So just include that in there too.

Yeh... just use the Wiki on U.S. Marines. It's pretty darn accurate.

[ArtofBreaking]

Pretty much... Marines are a mix between NAVY and Army. Think of NAVY daddy having sex with mommy Army, and then baaaam Marines are born :D

Ahaha wtf. lol
Good analogy.

pandora Posted Today, 06:55 PM
I don't believe I was implying that (if you're talking to me).

I was just tryin to say they don't only deal with water.

[pandora]

i love how the army is the mommy.

[illriginal]

i love how the army is the mommy.

lol well either way/vice versa

[EddieV]

I just looked this stuff up. I never knew all this. Thanks for the heads up Brandon!

[carolannexbh]

Yeh... just use the Wiki on U.S. Marines. It's pretty darn accurate.

I don't trust wiki with anything anymore. Anyone can edit it, so imo theres no point at looking at anything on there. And my brother's friend Andy is a marine and he was over for a couple minutes today to pick up his sweatshirt and I asked him if I could call him soldier. I got quite possibly the worst look from him and he said "dont call me a soldier ever again. please." ahah.

[fameONE]

I should grab some popcorn and enjoy this show. I'll take this time to learn about the Marine Corps.

[karmakiller]

Hahaha, wow this was a waste of my time reading through all these replied. I just call my brother a Marine. I've called him, and his buddies, soldiers before and they don't get offended by it and they've never beat me up for it... but I just can't see them as soldiers, so I think Marine is a fitting term for them as people...

[fameONE]

Hahaha, wow this was a waste of my time reading through all these replied. I just call my brother a Marine. I've called him, and his buddies, soldiers before and they don't get offended by it and they've never beat me up for it... but I just can't see them as soldiers, so I think Marine is a fitting term for them as people...

What's your brother's name, where is he stationed, what's his rank and what's his MOS? The Corps is pretty small.

[EddieV]

What are the National Guard, Air National Guard, and Coast Guard considered?

and Brandon, you ever played around with a British SA80?