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post Mar 10 2008, 09:04 PM
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lately my depression has been getting worse. i'm just curious as to how everyone else handles their depression if you have any. but if i'm the only one then oh well. _unsure.gif
 
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post Mar 10 2008, 09:16 PM
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What are you depressed about? Usually when I'm depressed, I write it down somewhere (if it's personal) or I talk to someone whom I'm comfortable enough to share something with. I suggest that you try talking to someone that's close to you (and whom you're comfortable with) and tell them what's wrong. It'll really help with expressing your depression. There are a few links in which I think are helpful for you and will hopefully help out with your depression: the links are here, here, here, and here. Also, do things that you enjoy and try to keep your mind occupied on positive things rather than the negative. I hope everything works out with you, and if you need to talk, you can always send me a PM. :).
 
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post Mar 10 2008, 10:28 PM
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thanks for the links. i appreciate it. i'm just at a point in my life where i'm tired of being sick and on meds. i just was hoping to find others out there that are suffering like i am. i'm a stay at home mom/army wife and my hubby is deployed so i've been taking care of everything here. and i'm living in KS with no friends or family because my family is in NY and i just haven't found the right friends. the friends i did find, just weren't the kind of friends that i needed. i just needed someone who has been through what i've been through, or is experiencing what i'm going through.
 
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post Mar 11 2008, 05:53 AM
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Never suffered from depression. In the words of Bill Bailey:

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(On the English) 52% of our days are overcast so as a nation we're infused with a wistful melancholy, but we remain a relentlessly chipper population.


In all seriousness, though - my boyfriend's brother suffers from depression and has been on anti-depressant pills for years. I don't think they help all - neither does councelling which simply makes you store and re-live all the negatives in your life.

If you can't get away to a beautiful sun shiney beach with a certain Jack Sparrow, I highly recommend trying valerian. Good luck, chuck.
 
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I went through a phase when I though I was depressed. Turns out, I'm just eccentric. I'm a seriously odd and awkward person and it used to wig me out that people just didn't know how to respond or react to me. It takes a lot of patience to be a friend of mine. lol Basically, when I stopped giving a shit about what people thought, there wasn't really any depression to speak of.

Even when Iz (my son) was diagnosed with autism it didn't freak me out or depress me. Instead it seemed organic, natural that he'd be different (for lack of a better way of putting it).

Granted, not everyone's circumstance is the same and sometimes depression is 100% clinical and if that's the case, see a doctor and all that.
 
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QUOTE(Melie @ Mar 10 2008, 10:28 PM) *
thanks for the links. i appreciate it. i'm just at a point in my life where i'm tired of being sick and on meds. i just was hoping to find others out there that are suffering like i am. i'm a stay at home mom/army wife and my hubby is deployed so i've been taking care of everything here. and i'm living in KS with no friends or family because my family is in NY and i just haven't found the right friends. the friends i did find, just weren't the kind of friends that i needed. i just needed someone who has been through what i've been through, or is experiencing what i'm going through.
Depression runs in my family. My mom had it really bad, and when her other health was bad her depression would get worse. I understand how you feel when you don't want to be on medicine. Right now, I'm seeking some help for my anxiety and I don't want to be put on drugs. I would recommend that you go to a psychologist, not a psychiatrist. There's no shame in getting help for depression, and I think people who go get help are quite brave.

I can have some empathy towards you with your husband being deployed. My brother was deployed to Iraq, not too long after my cousin passed away there. So there was a lot of stress and worrying there. Do you live on base? If so try to get some other wives together so that you all can support each other.

Everyone gets down at some point in their life, but if it's something that's truly interferring with your life, see a psychologist. There's no harm in just trying it out, and if it doesn't work for you try something else. I wish you the best. Just remember you're not alone.
 
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post Mar 12 2008, 05:52 PM
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it varies with my physical and social health, as it naturally should.
honestly, i deal with blocking everything. rarely do i even admit i'm..."sad".
from what EVERYBODY else has told me, find somebody to listen. seriously, i've known people who have gone from suicidal to the happiest person just because there was somebody to sit and listen every now and then. and really, if ANYBODY is strangly upfront to you, take it as a blessing. normally, when you start talking, the person will give advice, and you'll keep going and going, and they'll keep going and going with the advice, and chances are you'll slightly still be irritated. sometimes this can be the worst. a lot of times what you really need is somebody who will LISTEN, not talk, and tell you to suck it up and move on when you're done talking. :]
 
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post Mar 12 2008, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(RockItStudios @ Mar 12 2008, 05:52 PM) *
it varies with my physical and social health, as it naturally should.
honestly, i deal with blocking everything. rarely do i even admit i'm..."sad".
from what EVERYBODY else has told me, find somebody to listen. seriously, i've known people who have gone from suicidal to the happiest person just because there was somebody to sit and listen every now and then. and really, if ANYBODY is strangly upfront to you, take it as a blessing. normally, when you start talking, the person will give advice, and you'll keep going and going, and they'll keep going and going with the advice, and chances are you'll slightly still be irritated. sometimes this can be the worst. a lot of times what you really need is somebody who will LISTEN, not talk, and tell you to suck it up and move on when you're done talking. :]

oh my gosh that is so true! on mon i just vented to this one woman and it just felt great just to let it out! the only problem i had was that she felt that i needed to be hospitalized. all i knew was that i needed a break from being a mommy from time to time and i just felt so overwhelmed. but i had to suck it up and just go out. i wasn't going out for awhile. i would just go out just to get groceries and that's it.

unfortunately i dont live on post and the post is like 45 mins away from where we live. the only reason why we're living so far is because they didn't have any apts or housing available when we first moved out here. thank goodness he wants to move closer to the base when he returns.

 
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post Mar 12 2008, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(Melie @ Mar 10 2008, 10:04 PM) *
lately my depression has been getting worse. i'm just curious as to how everyone else handles their depression if you have any. but if i'm the only one then oh well. _unsure.gif

Meditation/Chakra
 
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post Mar 12 2008, 09:51 PM
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ive tried meditation for my depression and it works sometimes but 80% of the time i cant get out of my depressed state. i usually try to occupy my time with doing something productive wether it be working, reading, studying, etc.
 
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post Mar 12 2008, 10:56 PM
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I play sports to relieve stress away
 
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post Mar 13 2008, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(Heathasm @ Mar 12 2008, 09:51 PM) *
ive tried meditation for my depression and it works sometimes but 80% of the time i cant get out of my depressed state. i usually try to occupy my time with doing something productive wether it be working, reading, studying, etc.


you read?! reading never helps, especially when they're all about love and death and "different" people and life experiences. totally not fair! :[

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oh yeah, of course sports! a nice walk will make you think harder, but it also helps put things into a different perspective, and really does help you think of things to kinda get out of the depressed feeling.
other than that, sports involving hitting balls can be a savior. volleyball is the bomb, you can pretend the ball is somebody who may be making your condition worse!
 
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post Mar 13 2008, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(Heathasm @ Mar 12 2008, 10:51 PM) *
ive tried meditation for my depression and it works sometimes but 80% of the time i cant get out of my depressed state. i usually try to occupy my time with doing something productive wether it be working, reading, studying, etc.


How long do you meditate for?... I would recommend at least 1 hour a day, either right after you wake up, or right before bed. Because this is your most relax state, bodily and mentally.
 
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post Mar 13 2008, 08:26 PM
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my problem with meditating is that i can't get a clear mind to do it. i have so many things going on that i can't even shut them off so that i can be calm. which is why i go on this site and do myspace layouts and stuff to keep my mind occupied. the only thing is that the problem will still be there once i'm done.
 
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post Mar 25 2008, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(Melie @ Mar 13 2008, 09:26 PM) *
my problem with meditating is that i can't get a clear mind to do it. i have so many things going on that i can't even shut them off so that i can be calm. which is why i go on this site and do myspace layouts and stuff to keep my mind occupied. the only thing is that the problem will still be there once i'm done.

take u kid out everyy weekk sumwheree like chuckie cheeze or park.. just cuz u depress dun meann you kid gitta b depress 2.. take dem out n havee fun...

for you age.. you need sum guy with you butt he wur now..iraq..? well.. justt wait then..

for now just havee fun with u kid.. n get sum alonee timee while u kid at skool.. go library or just shoppin n try meet new ppl.. librarry or work seemm like good place 2 makee friend...
 
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post Mar 25 2008, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(Melie @ Mar 13 2008, 09:26 PM) *
my problem with meditating is that i can't get a clear mind to do it. i have so many things going on that i can't even shut them off so that i can be calm. which is why i go on this site and do myspace layouts and stuff to keep my mind occupied. the only thing is that the problem will still be there once i'm done.


Close your eyes... and focus on the darkness (no, not dark energy). Just practice... if you truly couldn't focus, then you'd have nearly no sleep, trust me.
Do not let your mind control you. YOU control YOUR mind. So try again, as you go to bed and you lay with your eyes shut, just look at the insides of your eyelids and don't try to analyze it, don't try to think of anything, nor try not to move your eyes.

Try it for 10 minutes a night, until you build it. The mind must think at a peaceful pace.
 
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post Mar 25 2008, 12:19 PM
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Personally, I cut, and other stuff.
 
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post Mar 25 2008, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(CODiENE @ Mar 25 2008, 01:19 PM) *
Personally, I cut, and other stuff.


Yeah but you're only makin it worst... all you're doin is feeding your low self esteem. It's all psychological. Letting your mind control your self is not good. The mind is powerful, but you need to control it and not let it control you.
 
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post Mar 25 2008, 12:34 PM
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^ say what? blink.gif

It feels good, suprisingly. thats all i can say.

and as far as the controlling my mind thing. As far as i can remember my mind has controlled me, and nothing has ever gone horribly wrong.
 
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post Mar 25 2008, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(CODiENE @ Mar 25 2008, 01:34 PM) *
^ say what? blink.gif

It feels good, suprisingly. thats all i can say.

and as far as the controlling my mind thing. As far as i can remember my mind has controlled me, and nothing has ever gone horribly wrong.


I rest my case in this irony.
 
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post Mar 25 2008, 12:43 PM
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Irony? This isn't ironic.
Its just I have a highly complex psyche. err... something like that

 
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post Mar 25 2008, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(CODiENE @ Mar 25 2008, 01:43 PM) *
Irony? This isn't ironic.
Its just I have a highly complex psyche. err... something like that


The irony is that you need to feel physical pain of which is more painful than your emotional pain in order to relieve your emotional pain. And that physical pain that you inflict upon yourself is only feeling good because it's weaker than your bottled up emotional pain.

But then when you see the scars on yourself, all you're doin is causing more emotional pain because of the damage you're doin. You're stuck in a catch 22-cycle twilight zone.
 
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post Mar 25 2008, 01:55 PM
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It doesn't hurt if you cut across fast enough. stubborn.gif Emotional Pain hurts much more than physical pain, at least the amount I feel (a lot)

 
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post Mar 25 2008, 02:01 PM
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^ u sooo douchee.. HAHAHAHAH!!!

u evaa cut u leftt nut...?
 
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^Why would i want to do that?
 
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post Mar 25 2008, 02:11 PM
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no mo depresss man.. tryy cut u leftt nut sumtime.. NO MOO DEPRESSS
 
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QUOTE(CODiENE @ Mar 25 2008, 02:55 PM) *
It doesn't hurt if you cut across fast enough. stubborn.gif Emotional Pain hurts much more than physical pain, at least the amount I feel (a lot)


So stop thinkin of what it is that's makin you hurt. Meditate... it helps clear the mind. Your lettin your mind over power you =\
 
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post Mar 25 2008, 02:18 PM
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if you are cutting yourself, my suggestion is to maybe do something else when you have that urge to cut. like, play video games or something. at least you are distracting yourself from cutting and keeping your hands occupied.
 
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I've done that. It worked for a year and then something happened (im not going to say) then i started again.
 
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QUOTE(CODiENE @ Mar 25 2008, 02:26 PM) *
I've done that. It worked for a year and then something happened (im not going to say) then i started again.

keep working on new stuff then. don't give up just because one thing didn't work. if you don't want to finally go through with the whole cutting thing (suicide) then find ways to stop yourself.

btw...if you are feeling to that point, you really need to tell someone no matter who it is and get the help you need. i know what it's like and i would hate to see someone go through with it. i sought the help that i needed and thank God i'm still here
 
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I never said I gave up. I have one of those rubber band thingers, and your supposed to snap yourself everytime you feel the need to cut. So far its working.
 
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QUOTE(CODiENE @ Mar 25 2008, 02:31 PM) *
I never said I gave up. I have one of those rubber band thingers, and your supposed to snap yourself everytime you feel the need to cut. So far its working.

oh now that's a creative idea but it's kind of still inflicting pain to yourself without the actual cutting. it's just my opinion that you might want to find something else that doesn't involve pain.
 
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melie.. dis bout u not sum lil kidd who go EMO...

so wat goin on with u rite now melie..?
 
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well for right now, i'm still taking my meds and my hubby is coming home in like 2 weeks so i'm going to make an appt with my doc to start getting off of them then. my depression was post-partum and regular depression because our daughter was 2 months old when he left for iraq. she's now 15 months. as for friends, i do have one but we always seem to have a conflict of schedules because of our kids and their naptimes and stuff. but, i've been keeping myself busy with being on cb a lot and working on layouts and stuff.

yeah, there are times when my depression gets me like on sat it did. it was my b-day and i couldn't do anything for myself because my friend was sick with the flu so she couldn't watch our daughter and i actually had no idea of what i wanted to do on my b-day. it was pretty depressing so i spent it at home and slept most of the day away.
 
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QUOTE(Melie @ Mar 25 2008, 03:44 PM) *
well for right now, i'm still taking my meds and my hubby is coming home in like 2 weeks so i'm going to make an appt with my doc to start getting off of them then. my depression was post-partum and regular depression because our daughter was 2 months old when he left for iraq. she's now 15 months. as for friends, i do have one but we always seem to have a conflict of schedules because of our kids and their naptimes and stuff. but, i've been keeping myself busy with being on cb a lot and working on layouts and stuff.

yeah, there are times when my depression gets me like on sat it did. it was my b-day and i couldn't do anything for myself because my friend was sick with the flu so she couldn't watch our daughter and i actually had no idea of what i wanted to do on my b-day. it was pretty depressing so i spent it at home and slept most of the day away.

congrats!! _smile.gif

hang in there.. _smile.gif ..

when you hubby come home.. let him take care the kid n u meet up with you friend n just hang out. shopping, barnes&noble, go to some track n just take a couple mile stroll.. then only the weekend.. tell you hubby to take you guys out to dinner. while you doin all that.. try n meet new ppl..

you know.. just say hi n such to random ppl.. like at library or work.. cuz grocery n other place just seem weird.. but there time that you get to know ppl at grocery store n such 2.. so it worth a try..
 
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so many tears


if you are realy depressed, why expose your life to the world


then

I think you just need atention right ? you don't will got from me


now or you goto kill your self

or you fight your problem


then do or die
 
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QUOTE(nguoicasison @ Mar 25 2008, 02:51 PM) *
congrats!! _smile.gif

hang in there.. _smile.gif ..

when you hubby come home.. let him take care the kid n u meet up with you friend n just hang out. shopping, barnes&noble, go to some track n just take a couple mile stroll.. then only the weekend.. tell you hubby to take you guys out to dinner. while you doin all that.. try n meet new ppl..


thanks...you know for some reason i always have this feeling when ever i meet someone. either we won't have anything in common or i have a bad feeling about them or something to that affect.

i met this girl online back in june and i thought we had a lot in common because she had a bf that was in afganistan but things got crazy for me in aug so her and i became really close. well she took advantage of my kindness and was never really considerate of me and everything i was doing for her. long story short, i cut that chick off and told her to grow up because i don't need anymore drama in my life then the stuff you've been giving me since we've met. it was so worth it.

ever since that incident, i've been very cautious of people. but, one friend that do have now i'm very cautious about too because it always seem that when i need her, she's just unavailable. like one day i told her that i desperately needed a break from my daughter and asked if she could watch her the next day. so she texts me saying her daughter has a sore throat and can't watch mine. well, it seems weird how convient that happened but i didn't want to over react like i always do. then, my b-day on sat came and wanted to see if she wanted to go out but she was sick with the flu. maybe she was and maybe i just have serious bad luck or something but it sucks either way. i can't win for losing.
 
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QUOTE(Melie @ Mar 25 2008, 03:59 PM) *
thanks...you know for some reason i always have this feeling when ever i meet someone. either we won't have anything in common or i have a bad feeling about them or something to that affect.

i met this girl online back in june and i thought we had a lot in common because she had a bf that was in afganistan but things got crazy for me in aug so her and i became really close. well she took advantage of my kindness and was never really considerate of me and everything i was doing for her. long story short, i cut that chick off and told her to grow up because i don't need anymore drama in my life then the stuff you've been giving me since we've met. it was so worth it.

ever since that incident, i've been very cautious of people. but, one friend that do have now i'm very cautious about too because it always seem that when i need her, she's just unavailable. like one day i told her that i desperately needed a break from my daughter and asked if she could watch her the next day. so she texts me saying her daughter has a sore throat and can't watch mine. well, it seems weird how convient that happened but i didn't want to over react like i always do. then, my b-day on sat came and wanted to see if she wanted to go out but she was sick with the flu. maybe she was and maybe i just have serious bad luck or something but it sucks either way. i can't win for losing.

it calll defense mechanism... you dont want you 2 let u gaurd down n get hurt.. just give everybody a chance n see what they like.. if you see something u dont like.. NEXT THEM!!!

its good that you cut her offf beforee thing get worstt..thumbsup.gif

cant u just put you Bday on diff day..? i dont see how u cant..

everyday.. just take you baby n go out for walk.. you can stay inside the house 24/7 but the baby cant.. so take the baby out everyday for 30 minute or more..
 
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QUOTE(nguoicasison @ Mar 25 2008, 03:08 PM) *
it calll defense mechanism... you dont want you 2 let u gaurd down n get hurt.. just give everybody a chance n see what they like.. if you see something u dont like.. NEXT THEM!!!

its good that you cut her offf beforee thing get worstt..thumbsup.gif

cant u just put you Bday on diff day..? i dont see how u cant..

everyday.. just take you baby n go out for walk.. you can stay inside the house 24/7 but the baby cant.. so take the baby out everyday for 30 minute or more..


lol...i wish i could put my b-day on the day he comes home. and maybe we might celebrate it when he does. i know i should take her out more and stuff. i just wish i could build that energy to actually do it.
there are times when i don't feel like leaving the house and i know i need to. like today, i need to get my ass up and go to the store so i can get some milk. but ugh, there is so much that i have to do before we go. i have to make sure we have everything like juice, snacks, diapers. then at the store i have to make sure she doesn't try to climb out the cart or take something off the shelves. then if she whines, i have to find out what's wrong and give her what she needs. so a quick run to the store for some freakin' milk turns into a fiasco.
 
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lol...i wish i could put my b-day on the day he comes home. and maybe we might celebrate it when he does. i know i should take her out more and stuff. i just wish i could build that energy to actually do it.
there are times when i don't feel like leaving the house and i know i need to. like today, i need to get my ass up and go to the store so i can get some milk. but ugh, there is so much that i have to do before we go. i have to make sure we have everything like juice, snacks, diapers. then at the store i have to make sure she doesn't try to climb out the cart or take something off the shelves. then if she whines, i have to find out what's wrong and give her what she needs. so a quick run to the store for some freakin' milk turns into a fiasco.

chikenn nodddlee suopp..
 
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post Mar 25 2008, 11:51 PM
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your right! today i took her to the store and we got some chinese because i was craving for them. and it just felt good to go out. we even played on the deck after dinner and she had a good time. thanks for hearing me out nquoicasison! :diggrin:

as for the friends thing, i'll just hold off on making new ones...after all like you said, hubby's coming home so i can wait another 2 weeks.

my mom called me today and told me she was proud of me for being able to raise my daughter without help and alone. for the past 3 generations on my mom's side they have been single moms. i'm a single mom but married to the army...lol

thanks again nquoicasison!!
 
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I dont think I have depression but more like trouble minded, love, school, scandals, fights, I've been through all of this , this year and sometimes when it gets to overwhelming I just come home turn up the music and put the homework aside, I dont care if I fail at least I wont fail to live another day, but dont cut yourself thats just weird, im sorry if I sounded weird whistling.gif
 
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I also have depression. I've been battling it since about 12 years of age (I'm 18 now), and only recently have had outside help. I handled it okay until about my junior year of highschool. Then senior year, I kind a sorta... snapped. I lost interest in my AP classes, dropped out of all my sports I was taking, never wanted to hang out with my friends. All I did was stay huddled up in my bedsheets, just wishing I would fall asleep and miraculously never wake up again. I never graduated high school because of it, which, of course, had a violent, negative effect on my depression.

I've been put on Wellbutrin at my first psychiatrist, and now am on Prozac at my second psychiatrist, as well as Abilify for my social anxiety disorder. I don't think they've helped at all, because I still feel the same way. I just feel... wrong.

I've also tried things to occupy my mind like playing MMO's, or video games, or drowning myself in movies or music. I have no friends so I have no one to talk to. The only person I talk to on a regular basis is my boyfriend (yeah, not even to my mom). And I only recently started mustering up enough energy to go online and do something other than lay in bed. I keep a journal, and even a livejournal, but those only help temporarily, nothing long term.

Anyways. Enough of my ramblings. Melie, if you ever need to talk to someone who slightly understands where you're coming from, I'm always here if you need to talk. Then again, I don't have a husband deployed in Iraq, nor a daughter, so I can't quite compare, but I'm a great listener. :] Although I give sucky advice. If you couldn't tell. ._.
 
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I wouldn't say I'm really depressed,but I have a lot of the symptoms.
It's mainly because of my family and friends.
In 4th grade was when it started,and it still hasn't really gone away.
I've cut myself a few times,but I just know it's wrong so I stopped.
I think about suicide and running away a lot,but I'm too afraid to do either,
and I'm a Christian,so I know God wouldn't want me to do any of the things I just said.
I'm a big wimp. I'm too afraid to talk to anybody,because I think that'll just make things worst.
Nobody really knows me,not even my best friend. I dunno,I guess I just have to get through it and not make a big deal out of it. But everything I just typed up probably sounds like an idiot talking;coming from a 13 year old.

And I don't really have any advice for you (Melie) either,since I think we have a huge difference in our ages and were probably going through completely different things.
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post Apr 16 2008, 08:27 PM
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even though we are different in age, our depression is just the same. i'm starting to get over my depression now that my hubby is home but i learned a lot when i was without him. that, only i can make myself happy and i have to learn how to do that. that was my biggest struggle and biggest mission i ever had to accomplish. i'll be honest, i still haven't completely accomplished it but i thank the CB community for it. without these guys, i would be losing my mind.

if you ever need someone to just talk to you can always pm me.

 
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Well.
You get used to it.
Meds help.
 
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I dont know if i am actualy "depressed", but i sure show alot of syptoms. my mother and her side of the family have bipolar up the family tree, so im guessing its a maybe.
 

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