Christianity vs. Islam. vs. Judaism, The Ultimate Debate Options

[EddieV]

Who are prophets, who aren't? Is Jesus the Son of God? Why are Kosher slaughters so violent? Religion vs. Science? The Second Coming? Muhammads claims, Jesus claims. Why are Jewish people cheap?

Religious Contradictions...

[fameONE]

With that said, what's the point in following any of the suggested religious doctrines?

[EddieV]

They're the 3 highest religions which are well connected to each other. I want to see everyone's point of view.

My opinion on religion is every religion when it comes down to it teaches you to be a good person. That's that, end of story with me, mind closed.

However I want to hear what everyone else has to stay on the subject.

[kryogenix]

You know where I stand.

كاف

[*Steven*]

w/ the god of abraham?

[illriginal]

o.o;

This is gonna be one dangerous ass thread. Don't expect me to get involved XD

[brooklyneast05]

o.o;

This is gonna be one dangerous ass thread. Don't expect me to get involved XD

SCORE

[illriginal]

SCORE

You know what's really a big score? I using Linux on my PS3... and I'm posting, chatting, and searchin the web with my PS3 :D

Anyways good luck to the posters o.o;

[brooklyneast05]

You know what's really a big score? I using Linux on my PS3... and I'm posting, chatting, and searchin the web with my PS3 :D

Anyways good luck to the posters o.o;

i want a PS3 now

[DoubleJ]

I can only go by what I was taught. Jesus is the son of God, and he has given up a lot, for us to be where we are. I was taught, that we should walk in love and unity with one another, and to turn the other cheek when confronted. I really didn't understand what the values of religion really were until the past few weeks, but now I am really starting to look deeper into this.

[EddieV]

Jesus himself has stated he's the son of God, but why him? Why not Muhammad, David, or Abraham who is the Father of all the Prophets? They were all great prophets. and why son? why not daughter? Wouldn't it make a bigger impression to send a woman to preach?

I actually don't know what to believe but my faith leans toward being a good person.

[brooklyneast05]

"When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad. That’s my religion."
-- Abraham Lincoln

[monster]

this thread fails.

[DoubleJ]

I never thought of why another person couldn't be the son of God. I always just went by what I was taught throughout my life. I guess, there are always possibilities.

[fameONE]

"When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad. That’s my religion."
-- Abraham Lincoln

Well put.

[NoSex]

They're the 3 highest religions which are well connected to each other. I want to see everyone's point of view.

No they aren't. It goes, Christianity, Islam, and then... Hinduism. You'll have to go through about five more before you get to Judaism (and that's without counting the "nonreligious" bracket). [1]

Unless your ambiguous sentence structure is at the heart of this misinterpretation. You might have been saying something else entirely. In which case, forgive me.

My opinion on religion is every religion when it comes down to it teaches you to be a good person. That's that, end of story with me, mind closed.

That's a largely debatable ideal. I would argue that it is nothing more than that... an ideal. "When it comes down to it," I think religions are haphazard superstitions born out of human insecurity, fear, and weakness. And, much like most things born out of such detestable traits, most religion is poisonousness to society, especially today (since we've escaped from the infantile stage of science).

I never thought of why another person couldn't be the son of God. I always just went by what I was taught throughout my life.

That, my friend, is called slavery.

[brooklyneast05]

That, my friend, is called slavery.

[illriginal]

I'll just say this... (I'm tryin to refrain from posting on this thread)


Simply put the major and obvious differences;

Judaism believes the messiah hasn't came yet and that Jesus was a fraud, because Jesus wasn't a king nor was he wealthy enough to even be considered the King of the Jews. They put Jesus on trial with the Romans and they demanded the Romans to kill Jesus for blasphemy and supposed witchcraft.

Their book of faith is the Torah, Talmud, and Kabbalah.



Christianity believes that the messiah has already came the first time and the messiah will come again to rescue his people of faith. Their messiah is Jesus Christ. Not only was it his prophet-hood (his messages and divine miracles) that got people into believing that he was the messiah, but also his birth, crucifixion, and resurrection which led them to believe he became one with God, in the form of a trinity. Thus switching their faith from God to Jesus because Jesus supposedly claimed he was God, and through him... will you be saved, this is where Christianity was created and the evidence lays in the New Testament.

Their book of faith is the New Testament



Islam believes that the messiah has already came and will come again. The messiah is Jesus Christ as well, but because lack of evidence and or witnessing, they don't believe in the death of Jesus Christ on the crucifix, but they do believe in the ascending (Jesus never died because he was the True prophet). Meanin they don't believe in the trinity (that Jesus became God via resurrection). They do not pray to Jesus nor put their faith in Jesus because in Islam, he was a righteous prophet but did not become God. Islam respects and follows the peaceful words of Jesus but they only pray to God, while they believe Jesus is still the messiah.

Their book of faith is the Qur'an and Hadiths.




While Islam is the same as Judaism, in terms of praying to God and God only.

Islam is the same as Christianity, where the Messiah is Jesus Christ.


If you want to get a lil better idea of the differences/similarities go here:
http://www.allaboutreligion.org/judaism-is...parison-faq.htm

[EddieV]

I'll just say this... (I'm tryin to refrain from posting on this thread)

I was hoping you'd be posting here more as someone to be on Islam's side.

[illriginal]

I was hoping you'd be posting here more as someone to be on Islam's side.

Problem is not many people accept Islam as the religion of peace. A lot of them have their attention on "terrorism" and assume this is what Islam teaches.

If that was the case, then Christianity teaches terrorism as well, referencing to the Crusades and KKK.

I'm definitely on Islam's side as well as Judaism, but this thread begs for a flame war lol.

[EddieV]

I don't think any religion really teaches terrorism, but rather the people who want to start "drama" tend to take one verse and misinterpret it.

But then again, to contradict that. The misinterpretation could be the truth as well.

Tama, when I went to the moque on Sunday, they gave me a Quran and it says that a Muslim woman cannot marry an unbeliever. Doesn't that state that you can't marry out of your religion? or does it have a different meaning since I have the English translation instead of the original Arabic format.

[illriginal]

I don't think any religion really teaches terrorism, but rather the people who want to start "drama" tend to take one verse and misinterpret it.

But then again, to contradict that. The misinterpretation could be the truth as well.

Tama, when I went to the moque on Sunday, they gave me a Quran and it says that a Muslim woman cannot marry an unbeliever. Doesn't that state that you can't marry out of your religion? or does it have a different meaning since I have the English translation instead of the original Arabic format.

No man... like I said. Muslims do NOT marry NON-Believers of God. Meaning, it is frowned upon to marry an atheist. You can still marry a Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Jew... or what have you. As long as they have faith in God and God only.

[DoubleJ]

Is it really slavery, to believe what you have been taught, both in school and in the home?

[EddieV]

No man... like I said. Muslims do NOT marry NON-Believers of God. Meaning, it is frowned upon to marry an atheist. You can still marry a Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Jew... or what have you. As long as they have faith in God and God only.

But can't non-believer also mean non-believer of that faith? It's not really explained thoroughly. At least from what I read so far.

[illriginal]

But can't non-believer also mean non-believer of that faith? It's not really explained thoroughly. At least from what I read so far.

It depends who interprets it. You gotta understand, there was only 1 religion in the time of Moses. That religion of God branched (divided) out to different religions of God.

So specifically speaking, God NEVER said, do not marry a person of another faith. Because during that time, there was no other faith. Just believers and non-believers.

Understand?

[brooklyneast05]

Is it really slavery, to believe what you have been taught, both in school and in the home?

it's not a good reason to believe it

[illriginal]

it's not a good reason to believe it

Believe what?...

Religion doesn't make you into a slave. Religion teaches you the word of God and the standards of God. Religion isn't supposed to be something you convert to... only to learn from it. But devilish humans created "man-made" standards and implemented them through their version(s) of religion.


God doesn't make you a slave... you make yourself a slave, assuming you're gullible and too mentally weak to make your own decisions in what you believe in. That's why I don't conform to a specific religion... I follow all religions as one. As long as they're authentic/legitimate and can be cross referenced to other religions and or historical events.

Edit: I wouldn't be talkin ish about any religion without at least learning all the religions and understanding the meanings of each religion.


Even knowing just one religion doesn't merit you enough to disrespect a religion or God... that's just laughable.

An ignorant atheist is one that rips into a specific religion and acts like they have the merit to disrespect religion, faith, God, and the Prophets.

When in reality they don't know jack ish about ish other than their trends. And in my opinion most of the atheist in this world are just trendy, uneducated fools.


This wasn't directed towards anyone specific, just sayin.

[DoubleJ]

I don't think that I am gullible or weak in any way. I think that when you have been taught things for basically your whole life, and don't know another way, then it is hard to not conform. I will admit, that I am interested more now than ever, to study other religions and what not.

[illriginal]

I don't think that I am gullible or weak in any way. I think that when you have been taught things for basically your whole life, and don't know another way, then it is hard to not conform. I will admit, that I am interested more now than ever, to study other religions and what not.

It's good for your mind/knowledge/self. You'll start to find out things that specific religions haven't told their people through cross referencing. Having knowledge of the Talmud, Torah, Kabbalah, Bible, Qur'an, and Hadiths etc.. will blow your mind.


Like for example... it was witnessed that Jesus Christ meditated. You ask a Christian Pastor/Priest about Jesus meditating and they'll call you a liar. But it's not their fault, because they chose to only follow one religion instead of taking the time to learn the others and find more information about their own religion in the first place.


Meh do it for the sake of knowledge at least.

[DoubleJ]

Definitely. Learning these things can only do more good than harm in the long run anyway.

[illriginal]

Definitely. Learning these things can only do more good than harm in the long run anyway.

If religious leaders took the time to study other religions... there wouldn't be religious wars -.- instead they'd come together in better understanding. But whatever, humans suck. (No offense)

[DoubleJ]

None taken, but nobody will ever stop fighting long enough to respect each others views. Fortunately we can learn these things on our own, when we can't get answers from the "leaders" of our religion.

[brooklyneast05]

None taken, but nobody will ever stop fighting long enough to respect each others views.

that won't happen because...some peoples values and beliefs don't deserve respect. claiming something as a belief doesn't mean it's untouchable and the rest of us should bow down and respect it.

same thing

[DoubleJ]

True

[EddieV]

that won't happen because...some peoples values and beliefs don't deserve respect. claiming something as a belief doesn't mean it's untouchable and the rest of us should bow down and respect it.

as long as those people respect others beliefs, their beliefs should be respected.

[NoSex]

as long as those people respect others beliefs, their beliefs should be respected.

I've been really sick, and every time I look at this thread I want to puke. But, this statement was especially stupid, so I had to say something.

Shouldn't a belief be respected on the merits of the specific beliefs in question? I mean, even if the most respectable, dignified, gracious, humble, super cool, and sexy dude believed that all Asians should be exterminated in giant microwaves, I'm sure you would have an issue in respecting that sort of belief... even if he respects your own beliefs (whatever those may be, it's not like it really matters... insofar as he respects him, cause, you know, genuine respect is totally a choice).

What you're arguing for is ignorance and tolerance for stupidity and tolerance for further ignorance. Respecting beliefs that don't make sense is for the birds. Now more than ever, words and ideas are the modes of sociological evolution (or de-evolution). We have to be careful in what we give credence. And, since ideas are so powerful, we have to fight those ideas that don't contribute to the potential progressiveness of the individual and society...

Get a f**king grip. Beliefs should be respected independently of who holds them and how they hold them... if a belief is accurate, useful, insightful, and meaningful, maybe maybe it deserves respect. If it doesn't happen to be any of those things, f**k that noise!

[brooklyneast05]

exactly

[*Steven*]

derka derka

[DoubleJ]

yezzir

[emberfly]

O.o. I can't believe I read through these long, boring two pages.

[EddieV]

O.o. I can't believe I read through these long, boring two pages.

That's your problem.