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EddieV
post Feb 22 2008, 01:27 AM
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Aside from interracial marriages, What's everyone's opinion on interreligion marriages.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:33 AM
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I believe that if both parties know what they are getting themselves into, then it is all good. Of course, there are some people who differ, but I am not one of those. I know a few people who are in interreligion marriages, and they are doing quite fine. I still don't think that it would get as much scrutiny, as an interracial one would.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(Sulfur @ Feb 22 2008, 01:27 AM) *
Aside from interracial marriages, What's everyone's opinion on interreligion marriages.


In my opinion, I believe all religions are one but they're split into their own versions. So marrying someone of a different religion doesn't bother me, nor would God frown upon it.

In fact I find it beautiful when two whole different people from two different parts of the world with different religions get to know each other. Because there's a lot of education there... there's a lot you can learn not just from a personal level, but historical, ethical, religious, the list goes on.

Unfortunately the only religion that disagrees with inter-religious marriages is Judaism. They believe they're the chosen beings (chosen by God) and that no sub-human (non-Jew) is worthy of marrying a chosen being.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:44 AM
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Isn't Islam against marrying out of religion?

as so my girlfriend tells me which is making me go nuts.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE(Sulfur @ Feb 22 2008, 01:44 AM) *
Isn't Islam against marrying out of religion?

as so my girlfriend tells me which is making me go nuts.

God never said that. The reason why Muslims don't marry out of their religion is because they want to keep the religion surviving. To keep the traditions within the family and religion strong and healthy. It's not a sin to marry outside of the religion.
 
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Do you have sources for that one? I find that one very interesting. My gf said it's actually wrong to marry out of religion.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 03:28 AM
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QUOTE(Sulfur @ Feb 22 2008, 02:07 AM) *
Do you have sources for that one? I find that one very interesting. My gf said it's actually wrong to marry out of religion.



Ask her to pull out her Qur'an and prove it to you.

There's no way I can prove information that doesn't exist in the Qur'an. There may be literature where someone asks if it's wrong and most likely they'll get the same answer I just gave you.

Reason being is, if God never said it and no religion has it in their holy texts... then it's A.O.K.

I've already read the Qur'an in it's entirety. There's no scripture where it claims that God made a law nor told a Prophet that marrying outside of the faith is prohibited.

Though it is best to stay away from one who is a non-believer, because a parent who's a non believer could potentially destroy the healthy faith of their family and religion.
 
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Define non-believer.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 03:40 AM
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QUOTE(Sulfur @ Feb 22 2008, 03:30 AM) *
Define non-believer.



An atheist or satanist in other words. But many atheist won't admit their origins. Some will admit it.

Unfortunately the dictionaries of modern day only claim that satanist is a worship of satan. In reality it's the faith of what satan believed.

To neglect God because that is true free will. Satanist's point of view in free will is to do whatever you feel is right for your own selfish pleasure and happiness whether its good or bad and not feel guilt. And that the standards of God is a contradiction to true free will.

 
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post Feb 22 2008, 04:11 AM
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QUOTE(Sulfur @ Feb 22 2008, 02:30 AM) *
Define non-believer.


Like me. I'm a life destroyer.
I'm the kid that all the other kids weren't allowed to play with. Yeah, f**k yeah!

Anyways, I think this thread is boring because marriage is lame and boring.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 04:20 AM
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um satanists aren't non-believers. they obviously believe, but they're playing for the other team.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 04:30 AM
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QUOTE(pandora @ Feb 22 2008, 03:20 AM) *
um satanists aren't non-believers. they obviously believe, but they're playing for the other team.


Depends on who you're talking about, actually.

Theistic Satanists (which the sort your suggesting probably never even really existed in any sort of actual church) are worshipers of pagan gods and goddesses (not always antagonists to Christianity, per se). These sorts of people are very rare, especially today.

LaVeyan Satanism (adherents are part of the "Church of Satan") is the more popular of the two. Followers practice hedonism, objectivism, and atheism. They actually are non-believers. The title is merely to make fun of Christianity and use an important and recognizable symbol as an icon for their church. It works, apparently.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 04:31 AM
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ah okay, then i stand corrected hehe.gif
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 04:37 AM
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QUOTE(pandora @ Feb 22 2008, 03:31 AM) *
ah okay, then i stand corrected hehe.gif


Kudos to you for conceding the point and doing it with grace. Most morons around here would probably call me an "a-hole," or make a crack about "not gettin' any" or something equally as irreverent.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 05:00 AM
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Yeah, it helps if the "grace" is coming from both sides. Most people when they're trying to "correct" other members are actually just trying to "pwn" them, and they do it with a lot of arrogance - which then sets the ball rolling for some action packed cb drama.

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post Feb 22 2008, 09:35 AM
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Nate get a life and get laid. Godless f****t.
 
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QUOTE(Sulfur @ Feb 22 2008, 01:44 AM) *
Isn't Islam against marrying out of religion?

as so my girlfriend tells me which is making me go nuts.


That's a really good question. I'm not against interreligion marriages, but I think it would be hard for me as a Christian to marry someone who doesn't at least share the same spiritual views that I do. I think it is possible, but if there is a belief in multiple deities or worship of an object I probably wouldn't be able to marry someone like that because I'd spend time evangelising to them and that's not what they would want.

However, I knew a guy who was Islamic and he had an arranged marriage, but I knew a young woman who was Islamic as well, but was free to marry whoever she wanted. It's like all religions in someways, some people are just stricter than others when it comes to their religious values.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(NoSex @ Feb 22 2008, 04:30 AM) *
Depends on who you're talking about, actually.

Theistic Satanists (which the sort your suggesting probably never even really existed in any sort of actual church) are worshipers of pagan gods and goddesses (not always antagonists to Christianity, per se). These sorts of people are very rare, especially today.

LaVeyan Satanism (adherents are part of the "Church of Satan") is the more popular of the two. Followers practice hedonism, objectivism, and atheism. They actually are non-believers. The title is merely to make fun of Christianity and use an important and recognizable symbol as an icon for their church. It works, apparently.



<,< I like you. You're actually one smart S.O.B.

I was expecting you to flip out on me and call me out on what I posted lol.

QUOTE(pandora @ Feb 22 2008, 05:00 AM) *
Yeah, it helps if the "grace" is coming from both sides. Most people when they're trying to "correct" other members are actually just trying to "pwn" them, and they do it with a lot of arrogance - which then sets the ball rolling for some action packed cb drama.



And you... I don't like you. Your posts have negative intentions and tend to be so horrifically ignorant and immature at times.

As a moderator (you), let me ask you this... is there anyway I can block you so that anytime you make a post, I don't have to read it? I sort of... would like to have you disappear from my computer screen.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(Sulfur @ Feb 22 2008, 01:07 AM) *
Do you have sources for that one? I find that one very interesting. My gf said it's actually wrong to marry out of religion.

Wrong? No.

My best friend's parents are Muslim and Catholic. Both are faithful devouts to their respective religions. In fact, her Muslim Dad plays a huge part in their Muslim community and no one has a problem with his Catholic wife. Not that I can see.

Back to work.
 
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QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 22 2008, 01:33 AM) *
I believe that if both parties know what they are getting themselves into, then it is all good.



you took the words out of my mouth biggrin.gif
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Feb 22 2008, 07:13 AM) *
And you... I don't like you. Your posts have negative intentions and tend to be so horrifically ignorant and immature at times.

As a moderator (you), let me ask you this... is there anyway I can block you so that anytime you make a post, I don't have to read it? I sort of... would like to have you disappear from my computer screen.



rofl i'm sure a lot of cb members are asking themselves what they can do to block you.

you can't block admins anyway. in any case i didnt even say anything negative, offensive, or immature in what you just quoted, so i think you need to frickin chill out or something. if you're talking about a post not in this thread then you should take it up with me via PM, and not totally spam this thread.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(pandora @ Feb 22 2008, 12:10 PM) *
rofl i'm sure a lot of cb members are asking themselves what they can do to block you.

you can't block admins anyway. in any case i didnt even say anything negative, offensive, or immature in what you just quoted, so i think you need to frickin chill out or something. if you're talking about a post not in this thread then you should take it up with me via PM, and not totally spam this thread.



Thank you, good bye o.~

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post Feb 22 2008, 01:31 PM
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I'd pay to see some of these people in person lol!
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 22 2008, 01:31 PM) *
I'd pay to see some of these people in person lol!



I'd be the most quite one there, analyzing/observing yall while wondering wtf am I doin with this crowd of people o.O

It's like a Gothic kid being friends with a stuck up preppy cheerleader LOL It's just unnatural.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:42 PM
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I would have never guessed that you were goth. I am that super preppy kid that you wouldn't like then.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 22 2008, 01:42 PM) *
I would have never guessed that you were goth. I am that super preppy kid that you wouldn't like then.



-.- I'm not Gothic bro... I was giving an example. Nor am I calling you preppy.

Shouldn't you be in school right now?... Just curious.
 
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I'm 21...Shouldn't you be in school right now?
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:58 PM
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stop spamming, both of you.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:58 PM
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Get back on track with the debate guys. Seriously. The name calling is childish and unacceptable.
 
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Will do.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 22 2008, 01:47 PM) *
I'm 21...Shouldn't you be in school right now?


Nah I got all my certifications, majored in computer science and minored in optical physics.

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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Feb 22 2008, 12:59 PM) *
Nah I got all my certifications, majored in computer science and minored in optical physics.

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Dude, WHAT DID I JUST SAY?

Stop, NOW.
 
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verbal warning: tamacracker, quit the spam. i really dont give a shit if you can read this or not.
 
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QUOTE(pandora @ Feb 22 2008, 01:00 PM) *
verbal warning: tamacracker, quit the spam. i really dont give a shit if you can read this or not.

Since she's been blocked.
 
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I know a Muslim who is actually married to a Jewish person.
 
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I know a Jew who was married to a Mormon.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 02:05 PM
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My mom is Catholic and my dad is Buddhist. It was a little confusing as a kid, but I managed. Actually, neither of my parents are really all that religious to begin with, so I didn't grow up with a strong pull to either religion. I was forced to goto private catholic school as a kid; I think that just drove me away from Catholicism, to tell you the truth.
 
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I mean, I believe, that it is based on what people believe and what they are taught. I will reference stereotypes of races as an example, because it is along the same lines. In some cases, people are taught about different races and the pros and cons and what not. It is up to that person to make the choice whether or not to believe what they have been taught, or to go out on their own, and learn as much as they can. Religion is the same way. I grew up in a Baptist household, and had it beat into my head constantly. As of right now, I have no religion, and that is because I choose to learn what I can about other religions first. To say that something is wrong or right without not knowing the full spectrum of it, and making a decision based solely on your own opinion, is a little bit silly to me. This probably made no sense, but I thought I would give it a shot.
 
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Dude, WHAT DID I JUST SAY?

Stop, NOW.



o.O sorry you must have posted that while I was typing.
 
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My parents both came from different religious backgrounds. I don't see what the problem is...your religion does not wholly define you as a person. You can be different religions and still get along. It really all depends on the people involved.

I don't think I could be with a vehement religious-ite. I'm sure there's a word for that, but I don't know what it is.
 
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My parents both came from different religious backgrounds. I don't see what the problem is...your religion does not wholly define you as a person. You can be different religions and still get along. It really all depends on the people involved.

I don't think I could be with a vehement religious-ite. I'm sure there's a word for that, but I don't know what it is.

I totally agree with that.
 
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I'm was born a Buddhist because of family, however followed Catholicism because I went to a Catholic school.

However I'd like to learn more about Islam because of my girlfriend.
 
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QUOTE(Sulfur @ Feb 22 2008, 11:54 PM) *
I'm was born a Buddhist because of family, however followed Catholicism because I went to a Catholic school.

However I'd like to learn more about Islam because of my girlfriend.


There's nothin wrong with learning new religions. Embracing Islam doesn't mean you convert... you just want to learn their point of view. Which is great for the mind, any sort of reading and understanding is.
 
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There's nothin wrong with learning new religions. Embracing Islam doesn't mean you convert... you just want to learn their point of view. Which is great for the mind, any sort of reading and understanding is.


I like people though who follow one religion however open their hearts and minds to others.
 
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id be scared of pissing off the family of the girl, but i dont think thatd stop me.
 

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