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brooklyneast05
post Feb 1 2008, 11:22 AM
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help me out

what is justice, and why should we be just?





i realize this is kind of broad. i'm hoping we can just narrow it down as we go and decide what specifics we wanna talk about.
 
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post Feb 1 2008, 03:59 PM
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Not really a deep thought answer, but just from experience in debate, the common definition of "justice" is something along the lines of, "giving each his due; nothing more, nothing less." Then again, that's also rather broad.
 
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post Feb 1 2008, 04:01 PM
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hmm... i'd have to say justice... is equality? shrug.gif i'm not really sure..
 
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post Feb 1 2008, 04:22 PM
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yeah i really have no clue what i'm asking. i mean i know in my head, i just don't know in terms of what to say.

i guess ill work on it and come back to this, it's too broad.
 
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post Feb 9 2008, 09:26 AM
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Justice is retribution. It is fair and proper closure to wrongdoing. Who really decides what is just and what isn't?

Scenario:

Man A lived in fear of alleged crime boss; Man B. Man A alerted the authorities of Man B. When Man B found out, he immediately made plans to kill Man A. So, Man A, premeditated, killed Man B. Man B was charged with murder in the first degree and is spending the rest of his life behind bars.

Is that justice?
 
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post Feb 9 2008, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Feb 9 2008, 09:26 AM) *
Justice is retribution. It is fair and proper closure to wrongdoing. Who really decides what is just and what isn't?

Scenario:

Man A lived in fear of alleged crime boss; Man B. Man A alerted the authorities of Man B. When Man B found out, he immediately made plans to kill Man A. So, Man A, premeditated, killed Man B. Man B was charged with murder in the first degree and is spending the rest of his life behind bars.

Is that justice?


Isn't Man B dead? But yes, Man A's actions were justified in the sense that he was defending himself. Though the law would probably not look so kindly upon him, he was still defending himself.

You know if you really want to get a good idea of justice, read The Republic by Plato.

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Returning debts owed, and helping friends while harming enemies are commonsense definitions of justice that, Socrates shows, are inadequate in exceptional situations, and thus lack rigidity demanded of a definition. Yet he does not completely reject them for each expresses a common sense notion of justice which Socrates will incorporate into his discussion of the just regime.
 
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post Feb 10 2008, 11:20 PM
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Justice is measured on how much you are willing to pay for a lawyer.
 

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