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post Jan 9 2008, 09:31 PM
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I was just thinking about this. If you take the right approach at contacting tribal civilizations it must be pretty easy to convince them to switch to a Christian religion. I mean, think about it. Alot of the tribes that you hear about have evil spirits and are constantly fearing for their lives. Believing that there's a God that loves you unconditionally, I don't think it would be very hard to accept it.

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post Jan 9 2008, 09:32 PM
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^i agree. its simple to invade a tribe or something of "uncvilized" people and convert them to whatever religion. isnt that what the Spaniards did? History isnt one of my main strong suits.
 
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post Jan 9 2008, 11:52 PM
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Telling someone that their way of life is wrong and forcing an unknown religion on them isn't a good look.
 
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post Jan 9 2008, 11:56 PM
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Yeah it is easy to convert them, I mean they will feel safer mentally. But I don't think you should change them.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(IGetSex @ Jan 9 2008, 09:31 PM) *
I was just thinking about this. If you take the right approach at contacting tribal civilizations it must be pretty easy to convince them to switch to a Christian religion. I mean, think about it. Alot of the tribes that you hear about have evil spirits and are constantly fearing for their lives. Believing that there's a God that loves you unconditionally, I don't think it would be very hard to accept it.

Your thoughts? This is not a detate, and if you see it as one then put it there.

Just because they are "tribal" or "uncivilized" doesn't mean they're retarded.

Noone is going to just drop their culture/way of life just because the "white-man" is smarter than them.

This is a retarded thread. And yes, it should go to debate.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE(monster @ Jan 10 2008, 12:45 AM) *
Just because they are "tribal" or "uncivilized" doesn't mean they're retarded.

Noone is going to just drop their culture/way of life just because the "white-man" is smarter than them.

This is a retarded thread. And yes, it should go to debate.


Alright, dude. First of all, if you didn't read my post clearly, then you shouldn't post in here at all. Because it's a waste of mine, and infinitely your time. I never stated that tribal civilizations were at all "retarded." Nor did I mention them as "uncivilized." That was yrrnotelekktric's doing.

I'm speaking theoretically, my friend. I'm not at all humoring the idea that one could merely waltz into the jungle, stumble upon some never before seen tribe, yada, yada... and simply force their religion onto somebody. To truely be able to have a "uncivilized" and "retarded" tribe's man allow himself the freedom to open his thoughts and start to comprehend that maybe there is more than just him, his people, and his way of life on this planet. Maybe there are evil spirits and witch doctors, or maybe there is a God who would love you even if it was unrequited.

But, that is beside the point. The point was simply to suggest the idea it must be easier some one who has only known one moral code, one religion their entire lives that involves constant fear, to accept a religion that shows a selfless, loving servant as their Lord.

And if I'm not mistaken a culture is not defined by it's religion. Religion is only one slice of the metaphorical, cultural pie. Because a society cannot survive on religion alone, can it?

So, before you go around calling tribal people "uncivilized" and "retarded" think twice about what you say. You can never take it back.

Good day to you, sir.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 02:05 AM
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Hm. I think I have a slightly different point of view. Tribal/uncivilized groups and people are what is geographically known as folk culture. I learned in my human geography class not too long ago that folk cultures are often unwilling to change their lifestyles, religion, etc because mainly they want to preserve it so much. Sure, there's been much conversion of religions and such with all kinds of country invasions, and I'll have to agree with you there. But this idea of folk culture just kinda came to my mind.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 02:36 AM
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QUOTE(Autobahn @ Jan 10 2008, 02:05 AM) *
Tribal/uncivilized groups and people are what is geographically known as folk culture. I learned in my human geography class not too long ago that folk cultures are often unwilling to change their lifestyles, religion, etc because mainly they want to preserve it so much. Sure, there's been much conversion of religions and such with all kinds of country invasions, and I'll have to agree with you there.

I'd have to go with this answer, too, because conversions have happened in invasions by force/power and instilling fear. Then would they only easily accept another lifestyle/religion. White folks aren't exactly the most pleasant when it comes to missionaries.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 03:37 AM
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As stated, a lot of those "uncivilized" people were merely forced into accepting the newfound way of the "white man." I think it was just wrong, how they used forced. It would've been much more responsive if they did it on a volunteer basis. Then again, the world wouldn't be the way it is today without what happened back then.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(IGetSex @ Jan 10 2008, 01:53 AM) *
Alright, dude. First of all, if you didn't read my post clearly, then you shouldn't post in here at all. Because it's a waste of mine, and infinitely your time. I never stated that tribal civilizations were at all "retarded." Nor did I mention them as "uncivilized." That was yrrnotelekktric's doing.

I'm speaking theoretically, my friend. I'm not at all humoring the idea that one could merely waltz into the jungle, stumble upon some never before seen tribe, yada, yada... and simply force their religion onto somebody. To truely be able to have a "uncivilized" and "retarded" tribe's man allow himself the freedom to open his thoughts and start to comprehend that maybe there is more than just him, his people, and his way of life on this planet. Maybe there are evil spirits and witch doctors, or maybe there is a God who would love you even if it was unrequited.

But, that is beside the point. The point was simply to suggest the idea it must be easier some one who has only known one moral code, one religion their entire lives that involves constant fear, to accept a religion that shows a selfless, loving servant as their Lord.

And if I'm not mistaken a culture is not defined by it's religion. Religion is only one slice of the metaphorical, cultural pie. Because a society cannot survive on religion alone, can it?

So, before you go around calling tribal people "uncivilized" and "retarded" think twice about what you say. You can never take it back.

Good day to you, sir.


...why would you post this thread if there was nothing to argue about?

There's nothing to discuss here. All you managed to do was post a half page essay, and the only answer we can honestly say without basically regurgitating what you just said is " yeah. " or " lulz no "

Good day to YOU, sir.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 11:55 AM
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post Jan 10 2008, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(Sulfur @ Jan 10 2008, 11:55 AM) *
I'll spread the Jedi arts.

i'll stab you
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(Sulfur @ Jan 10 2008, 11:55 AM) *
I'll spread the Jedi arts.


Not unless I brainwash them with the Prime Directive and make them join The United Federation of Planets first, Eddie.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(S-Majere @ Jan 10 2008, 12:46 PM) *
Not unless I brainwash them with the Prime Directive and make them join The United Federation of Planets first, Eddie.

The force is strong with this one.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(IGetSex @ Jan 9 2008, 06:31 PM) *
I was just thinking about this. If you take the right approach at contacting tribal civilizations it must be pretty easy to convince them to switch to a Christian religion. I mean, think about it. Alot of the tribes that you hear about have evil spirits and are constantly fearing for their lives. Believing that there's a God that loves you unconditionally, I don't think it would be very hard to accept it.


Well they don't always fear for their lives. The same way they have bad spirits they also have good ones whom they believe will protect them in the same way that christians have saints. And they also have their own various gods. The only difference is that they have many while others have one. Besides, why should anyone change what they believe? I don't think its right, and I don't think people should meddle in other people's beliefs.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(luku @ Jan 10 2008, 01:48 PM) *
Well they don't always fear for their lives. The same way they have bad spirits they also have good ones whom they believe will protect them in the same way that christians have saints. And they also have their own various gods. The only difference is that they have many while others have one. Besides, why should anyone change what they believe? I don't think its right, and I don't think people should meddle in other people's beliefs.

That's Catholicism.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 02:20 PM
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But do you see what I'm getting at?
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 02:28 PM
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post Jan 10 2008, 02:36 PM
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Christianity has the Devil, too. They make it easy for them to convert because if they don't use force, they'll give all the poor tribes food and tools, and then abandon them once they convert. You wouldn't go against the people giving you food, would you? Then they would stop giving you food.
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 04:32 PM
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Who is to say that one way of life, or religion, is the right one?
 
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post Jan 10 2008, 05:04 PM
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That's Catholicism.

She left out the bloody parts
 
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post Jan 11 2008, 09:28 PM
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At the same time, they spread disease too. pinch.gif
 

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