Immigration Options

[kayleighSTFU]

So I'm from Reno, NV and Thursday ICE came and invaded all of the McDonald's here and deported like all these people back to Mexico. And it made me really mad because you know I'm white and i was born in California and all these people were posting all these comments up on the news channel website saying stuff like "finally! they get all these Mexicans out of our country and [blah blah blah]" and it makes us all look bad. This country was founded by people coming from other countries. that's what the USA is. I understand it's better to do it the legal way but why deport them? They aren't hurting anyone. They aren't blowing up schools or attacking our government buildings. they're just trying to work and feed their families.

it's just so frustrating to me. WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?


It's just sad...you know?

[PINKLollyPOP]

erm, i don't want to get in this...
but i agree, it's sad...
i do feel sorry for them

[*karmakiller*]

I think that's why they need to revise the immigration laws. The thing is, this kind of thing isn't new or anything. I mean, stuff like this happened back when people came through Ellis Island... granted some people back then took things into their own hands, like with the lynching of German Americans because of the influence of the world wards, but that's something else.

[*IVIike*]

I was going to say what Suzzette I sure as hell dont want to pay for someone else to live... they should pay for themselves

[ParanoidAndroid]

Why deport them? Well I don't know maybe because they take f**king advantage of the government's money? They don't even pay taxes yet they get f**king health care and public education. My family is an immigrant family. All of us waited six years to immigrate to the United States, and we started out terribly. Besides the fact that my parents didn't have a career, they had to pay for f**king taxes mexicans don't want to pay for.

Call me racist or ignorant I don't give a shit.

I understand though why they would immigrate illegally. It's really hard to get into America. Petitioning someone can take up to 20 years if they even get accepted!

And KarmaKiller, the situation is similar in terms of huge immigration scale going on, but really it's different. Immigration laws back then were different. America encouraged immigration back in the 1800s. And it wasn't that hard to become a legal immigrant. But now we can't just let anyone in. We're trying to control the population.

[*Elba*]

White power!

[*Steven*]

White power!

[Relentless]

Yeah, that's sad. =X I guess that's how the world is. =/

[*karmakiller*]

Well it does cost money to catch them and deport them. So they're costing us money either way.

[1angel3]

Black power!

[cyb3r0ptik]

illegal immigrants take the jobs that US citizens need, for a lower pay.

usually, they go back home to mexico, or send the money to their family in mexico, and "live like kings" as i've heard it put.

they can live here for 7 years Tax free if they go through with the citizenship/immigration laws.

why would you, as a business owner, pay a landscaper upwards of $20 an hour when you can pay an illegal immigrant less than $7 an hour, who'll work their ass off MORE than a US citizen, just so they can stay in the country and not get deported.

it's not a joke when you hear people say about Ill.Immigrants "they took our jobs". because they do. but it's not just their fault, it's businesses faults as well, for going through with employing them.

it's not right on the fact that maybe they're trying to make an honest living, and can't stand working or living in mexico, or whatever country they came from...
but they can at least try to become US citizens.

[lilsnoopy]

I came here legally

so can they

They might actually get a better job if they know the language too (and a cititzenship) then just be fruit pickers or whatever horrible low paying job they got

[*Steven*]

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[jammylise]

illegal immigrants take the jobs that US citizens need, for a lower pay.

usually, they go back home to mexico, or send the money to their family in mexico, and "live like kings" as i've heard it put.

they can live here for 7 years Tax free if they go through with the citizenship/immigration laws.

why would you, as a business owner, pay a landscaper upwards of $20 an hour when you can pay an illegal immigrant less than $7 an hour, who'll work their ass off MORE than a US citizen, just so they can stay in the country and not get deported.

it's not a joke when you hear people say about Ill.Immigrants "they took our jobs". because they do. but it's not just their fault, it's businesses faults as well, for going through with employing them.

it's not right on the fact that maybe they're trying to make an honest living, and can't stand working or living in mexico, or whatever country they came from...
but they can at least try to become US citizens.

I AGREE BUT, also i've heard fromt here side

sometimes its so bad over there in different countries NOT JUST F**KING MEXICO, that it's so bad over there they have to leave with there family to provide better.

some cant wait a few months/years in their country for citizenship to come here

my dad came here illegally because of that, but as soon as he came here and saved up enough money off he went to get his citizenship

and he is now legal =]

[kayleighSTFU]

well the one thing i think you guys don't realize is that most of them use "fake" SSNs and they DO pay taxes they just don't get tax returns like we do. so don't sit there and say they "Take advantage of the government" beccause we get money back when they don't. you know what i'm sorry but if i was in the position they are in, in mexico i would do ANYTHING possible to help my family. even if it meant going to another country and working my ass off to take care of them. i don't want to sit here and say that i think it's okay for people to brake the law and be here illegally. i just think that they should revise the laws a little bit.

Have any person born in the US take the citizenship test that they have to take to become legal. I am pretty smart and i know i wouldn't pass that test.


whatever. that's the beauty of america you all have the freedom to have your opinion about this. but the majority of the jobs hispanics take white people think are below them and dont say that's not true because i know it is. ive heard people say it.

[*Programmer*]

Well in all honesty we have no right to call this land ours it was originally the Native Americans...so what gives us the right to judge and deport people?

[*Programmer*]

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[$$$ soul]

Well in all honesty we have no right to call this land ours it was originally the Native Americans...so what gives us the right to judge and deport people?

wow..........

[*Steven*]

Well in all honesty we have no right to call this land ours it was originally the Native Americans...so what gives us the right to judge and deport people?

Because we claimed it and took over it, and we've run it for a couple hundred years, and if anyone disagrees then sucks for them. Let's see them try to take it back.

[mylittleMiracle]

Because those mexicans don't need to pay tax:\

[cyb3r0ptik]

Because we claimed it and took over it, and we've run it for a couple hundred years, and if anyone disagrees then sucks for them. Let's see them try to take it back.

impossible for us to - we're mostly all dead...

[*Steven*]

impossible for us to - we're mostly all dead...

Well then you certainly are in a pickle.

[TaintedSakura]

I agree with you, You know how hard it is to become a citizen these days? WAY harder than it was back when our ancestors came here! Why cant people understand

[*Villainess*]

Illegal immigrants ARE hurting America. If people would LEGALLY immigrate here then there wouldn't be a problem. My parents both legally came here from Nigeria and became citizens. And they actually pay taxes.

a-f**king-men.

I immigrated to ireland for a while and i became a citizen...
I could have taken the easy way and flew there and then pretended i was a tourist but no i went though the whole f**king painstaking process.

so f**k that.

[brooklyneast05]

^ i went to ireland last summer

yeah i'm for people going the legal route, but i think things need to be revised a bit

[kayleighSTFU]

People understand, it's just that if we keep letting all of them live in America tax-free then America would just suck for everybody.

except most of them use fake ssn's and do pay taxes but no one realizes that...

[EddieV]

um...they were illegal immigrants, not saying I dislike immigrants or anything, but I'd prefer it if they came in the country legally.

[MissFits]

Where I live they just deported about 300 illegal immigrants from 1 factory during 1 shift.

When my dad was alive he got laid off there, and they just hired a bunch of illegal immigrants because they took less pay. It happens and it's sad but it's more the fault of the business owners than it is the fault of the Mexicans because the business owners are hiring them.

The thing that bothers me the most is most of the Mexicans where I live only speak enough English to buy and sell drugs, or to hit on fat girls. I learned some Spanish, can't they learn a little English too?

[*Elba*]

a-f**king-men.

I immigrated to ireland for a while and i became a citizen...
I could have taken the easy way and flew there and then pretended i was a tourist but no i went though the whole f**king painstaking process.

so f**k that.

I think that becoming a U.S. citizen takes a hell of a lot longer than becoming a citizen of Ireland.

[brooklyneast05]

^ af**kingmen

[cyb3r0ptik]

yes, the citizenship test is hard...
for americans

because americans don't care.
we care about our country, or our history, as much as we care about the country or the history of anywhere else.

unless you're a french major, do you know if france has a prime minister, a president, a royal member? and what their name is? when they were elected into that said office?

or even germany.
south africa?

i'm not saying to answer this, by all means, but it's just an example.

[*Steven*]

yes, the citizenship test is hard...
for americans

because americans don't care.
we care about our country, or our history, as much as we care about the country or the history of anywhere else.

unless you're a french major, do you know if france has a prime minister, a president, a royal member? and what their name is? when they were elected into that said office?

or even germany.
south africa?

i'm not saying to answer this, by all means, but it's just an example.

Generalizations

[kayleighSTFU]

Not trying to start an even bigger problem/argument about this. But honestly considering how many Asian people are a part of this website i would think that immigrants would have a little bit more support. I'm not trying to get anyone angry but not every Asian immigrated here LEGALLY. not all Mexicans immigrate here ILLEGALLY either. I just find it very depressing that so many people can't support something that is apart of all of our families history. Unless you're 100% American Indian you have no right to be against immigrants because you don't know which of your relatives immigrated here legally or not.

[*Steven*]

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[cyb3r0ptik]

Why do people try to use that American Indian argument? It was way different back then. There weren't strict immigration laws...there might not have even been immigration laws. Immigration was encouraged.

No comparison.

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i agree completely. and i'm native. back then it was survival of the fittest and... well... we weren't.
and even if there WERE immigration laws, they didn't pertain to what was to be America. Natives ate maize and lived in little houses made out of animal skins..
like they knew what immigration was.

[Tung]

Hey i love fobs.

[*Uronacid*]

I think we should patrol the desert with F-14 Tomcats, and gun down the little sneaky Mexicans with cruise missiles. Like I said above, the more mexican blood spilled on the boarder the less likely they will be to cross it.

[*Steven*]

They retired the F14

[*Uronacid*]

They retired the F14

Did they dismantle them, because we could put them to good use!

[kayleighSTFU]

I think we should patrol the desert with F-14 Tomcats, and gun down the little sneaky Mexicans with cruise missiles. Like I said above, the more mexican blood spilled on the boarder the less likely they will be to cross it.

you are f**king disgusting.

[*Uronacid*]

you are f**king disgusting.

You're fucking ugly. Someone please shoot her in the face so she looks better.

[Tung]

I don't have a gun. But what I can do is shoot cum on her face. If that's what you are asking.

[kayleighSTFU]

You're fucking ugly. Someone please shoot her in the face so she looks better.

Wow, because you're super mature. I totally give a f**k if you think I'm ugly. Oh no! Some sadistic pig thinks I'm ugly! I think I'm going to go slit my wrists now. f**k off a-hole.


If you had anything to say that was worth reading you'd be intelligent enough that you wouldn't have to lower yourself to the level of a 10 year old child.

[LOWinSKANK]

they are hurting people. people who are WAITING on a list to become legal citizens. some of them are abusing america's resources [welfare, etc,.] and it's not fair that they're getting it all for free when they aren't legal.
i have no problems with immigrants, but if they don't take the time like everyone else to become citizens, they should be deported unless they're in the process already.

[*Steven*]

Wow, because you're super mature. I totally give a f**k if you think I'm ugly. Oh no! Some sadistic pig thinks I'm ugly! I think I'm going to go slit my wrists now. f**k off a-hole.
If you had anything to say that was worth reading you'd be intelligent enough that you wouldn't have to lower yourself to the level of a 10 year old child.

Actually if you did your research and read his posts, you would know that he's very intelligent.

they are hurting people. people who are WAITING on a list to become legal citizens. some of them are abusing america's resources [welfare, etc,.] and it's not fair that they're getting it all for free when they aren't legal.
i have no problems with immigrants, but if they don't take the time like everyone else to become citizens, they should be deported unless they're in the process already.

Have you not read any of the past couple pages? That shit's been covered.

[kayleighSTFU]

Actually if you did your research and read his posts, you would know that he's very intelligent.

Yes, so intelligent that he says things like "You're ugly." Couldn't think of something better to say? There are a lot more things he could of said, well thought out things that would hurt a lot more than that.

• Topics are not to bash others.

• Immature behaviors/comments will not be tolerated.

• ....We have to maintain a certain level of maturity in here.

-And just in case anyone feels the need to bring it up, I never claimed my response to him was mature but since no one seems to care about the maturity of posts here no one should mind.

[*Steven*]

Grow up. If you seriously think cB should be more strictly moderated you'd be in for a rude awakening. cB is much better when it isn't as heavily moderated. When it's more laid back, people can have more fun and get away with more. So a final bit of advice to you:


Suck it up.

[lilsnoopy]

-And just in case anyone feels the need to bring it up, I never claimed my response to him was mature but since no one seems to care about the maturity of posts here no one should mind.

Be the grown up then and stop fueling the fire with more responses.
Also, keep on topic instead of just posting "thats fuucking disgusting" to his repsonse. At least say WHY its disgusting, so you actually contributed to the debate lol

But America has to make the citizenship harder, after all, sooo many people want to live here. Can you imagine how differnt America would be after years of easy tests? Everybody would move here XD

[*davinci*]

Please keep personal insults OUT of debate topics. If I wanted to read through this, yeah, how pleasant would that be?

[kayleighSTFU]

Grow up. If you seriously think cB should be more strictly moderated you'd be in for a rude awakening. cB is much better when it isn't as heavily moderated. When it's more laid back, people can have more fun and get away with more. So a final bit of advice to you:
Suck it up.

You people are actually going to tell me to suck it up? I'm not whining so there really is no need to tell me to suck it up. I don't care how you moderate just don't post up rules that people blatantly disregard.



And he's f**king disgusting because his obvious disregard for human life is wrong, everyone can have their opinion about immigration but there was no need to involve killing people. We weren't discussing the death penalty. We were discussing immigration.

[*Elba*]

Be the grown up then and stop fueling the fire with more responses.
Also, keep on topic instead of just posting "thats fuucking disgusting" to his repsonse. At least say WHY its disgusting, so you actually contributed to the debate lol

But America has to make the citizenship harder, after all, sooo many people want to live here. Can you imagine how differnt America would be after years of easy tests? Everybody would move here XD

The immigration test isn't anywhere near easy.

[USCavalry]

it's just so frustrating to me. WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
It's just sad...you know?

truely is. america is full of hypocrisy and no one seems to care. well, back to my video games!