PERFECTION IS NOT POSSIBLE, UNLESS YOU ARE A MODERATOR/etc., how can u set such high standards? Options

[forever-without-...]

Dear createblog,
When I first started creating layouts I was excited. I felt great everytime I got one layout to work after hours of trying... Then when I submitted them to createblog... I got rejection after rejection. Your petty standards are pushing designers away. Why do you want all the layouts to conform to the same exact organization, style, etc.(i like squares, not circles). They are all neat, clean, etc. But who wants a layout that looks like all the rest? I definitely don't. and I'm sure no one else does either. And to be honest with you all: you have ruined most designers creativity (well mine) by making boring layouts the standard. ALSO WHO THE HELL HAS THE TIME TO CREATE A PERFECT LAYOUT... no, no, if we could create perfect layouts: don't you think we'd be getting paid? not sitting at create blog. It's time you all realize that not many designers on createblog are professionals. I am not. and if all you can come up with when you critique a layout is: the text should be in a box not a circle. then you are LAME. if you can accept layouts that absolutely SUCK and are not even aligned right, then why can't u accept the different ones that are aligned right? I am fed up with createblog.
-lost designer

[*Steven*]

Link to some of your layouts?

[forever-without-...]

oh and I am not spending hours at a time to please you layout approvers.. I am spending for the people who want to use the layouts

[*davinci*]

...and if all you can come up with when you critique a layout is: the text should be in a box not a circle....

Is that the only thing written? That's not a good reason for rejecting a layout so can you provide some examples?

[*Steven*]

That's fine and dandy, but submissions aren't going to be accepted simply because you submit them. Could you please link some of your layouts so people who know design and other stuff can give their input?

[forever-without-...]

I have been rejected 5 times


this one I can understand if you don't accept: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=21395

this one I can't:
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=21380

[forever-without-...]

btw that comment about approving was not to you steven it was an add on to my message.... I did not realize you responded until after I extended my rant. I don't mean to rude or disrespectful but I'm just really upset.. I killed 5 hours within two days to make the thunder layout. same with the lips one.

[*Michelle*]

Honestly, I like both of the layouts you linked >_<

[forever-without-...]

within the past two weeks. its only my 3nd and 4th design..

[*Villainess*]

Who was the person reviewing the layout?

[*davinci*]

I have been rejected 5 times

this one I can understand if you don't accept:
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=21395

this one I can't:
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=21380

The first is still pending approval.

The second was rejected by Mike.

[forever-without-...]

which one?
I don't hold a grudge against the ppl who approve this layouts. I have grudge against their preferences and expectations. i kinda just don't think its fair.

-karmakiller- the lips one
-IVlike- the thunder

[forever-without-...]

thats b/c I submitted it again. i already tried to submit it once.

[lkajsfklajskds]

i love the second one. should've been accepted
the first one is ok, but i understand it being rejected.

[forever-without-...]

there's nothing wrong with mike... and I dont have a grudge against him
he said:

Make boxes instead of the words going around that will make it look neater

[*karmakiller*]

I gave you things to improve on. I didn't mean to come off as rude, if I did.

[brooklyneast05]

words instead of boxes don't look neat...yet the 1028291 million layouts with shitty blurry jpg images do

makes sense, makes sense

[*davinci*]

^The images are automatically optimized so there isn't much one can do about that.

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I'm going to accept the thunder one. That's a poor reason to reject a layout as using boxes is a personal preference and I don't see anything wrong with the layout.

[forever-without-...]

:unsure:oh no...
i believe i've caused quite a commotion.

[*Steven*]

I liked the thunder one. I didn't like the first one very much.

No commotion. No worries :)

[brooklyneast05]

one could save as png and give themselves a lot better chance of nicer quality

:unsure:oh no...
i believe i've caused quite a commotion.

i think it's good

[*davinci*]

Also, don't forget that screenshots look best if taken in full screen mode (F11).

one could save as png and give themselves a lot better chance of nicer quality

It doesn't mean we should reject them because the submitter decides to save images as jpegs instead of pngs. If the quality is horrendous, I can understand that as a reason for rejection.

[forever-without-...]

i never said that those who approved the layouts were rude or mean. In fact I like both karmakiller(i'm not mad at you... I understood the lip thingy and changed it) and IVlike as people. It's just your all advice was a little difficult to change in the layout except for the lips being pixelly because it would ruin the layout ideas.

[forever-without-...]

i have a mac and I just figured out how to take full screen shots.
oh thanks for accepting my layout(the thunder one) thats the only one I really wanted and thought should have been accepted..

the lips one I understood was a little crowded. and messy.

[*Steven*]

Well, glad to see this taken care of

[*tripvertigo*]

i honestly think both layouts are ugly. i agree that you shouldnt have to "conform" to everyone elses standards, but i think the simple standard of "the layout shouldnt suck" is reasonable. The default myspace stick out on the right of both layouts. there is no direction in either design, it just seems like you stuck shit together.

[*Insurmountable*]

I'm not going to bother with reading ever post you made, I read the first few.

The second layout the text is really clean and its not sharp around the edges and looks really smooth. Your layout the text is a bit sharp, maybe tone that down a bit and also its really busy by the millions of different texts you choose. Also maybe decide to hide the bottom links their showing through the image near the bottom and extending past the image. Also some other links are as well.


I have to agree with Trish in the early post, I would never never never use either of these layouts. The thunder layout the pictures with the crappy boxes behind them doesn't look all that great..

Oh I finally noticed where the navigation was in your layout...see you put to much of the same text and if someone used it I'm sure who ever choose to use it would possibly have a lot of complaints about where the links were because they don't stand out and just blend in way to much.


In the end, you know everyone has a different opinion on what looks good and pleasing to the eye then another person. Yea of course createblog has to have some standards; I personally wouldn't want to come on here if there was a whole bunch of shitty layouts... You win some you lose some. When your layouts were rejected you should have received a PM back saying why your layout was rejected and were in the rules it went against. And if they didn't do that then you should have PMed the moderator back and asked.

[*IVIike*]

sorry if i confused you you can always PM me back if you don't understand what we are saying

[*davinci*]

sorry if i confused you you can always PM me back if you don't understand what we are saying

It was the reason you gave for rejecting her layout that upset her. I don't think she was confused by it.

[*tripvertigo*]

i do agree that he shouldnt have told you to make squares instead of circles. the circles seemed to the the whole point of the design, so that's not really a critique.

it's the execution of the design that is less than impressive.

[forever-without-...]

well now that you all have degraded every little thing about my layout do u think you could go back to doing what you do? ( i would say designing, but your not right now) Because I don't think I can stand another critique right now. I personally don't think you would like to see a page full of people out there backlashing your layouts, would you? I'm sorry I said anything at all and if it sounded rude, it wasn't intentional... I just thought this was an open community and I could give feedback freely and I personally did not think my layouts WERE THAT BAD(considering I've only submitted 5) , but I was wrong ( people judge u everywhere )
But if i can have one request: please stop talking about me/my layouts.. or at least close this topic.

and IVlike I hope you took no offense to my complaint and karmakiller you too.

[freeflow]

Before this is closed I would like to say this...
A) You made this thread and posted links to your layouts... do you seriously think no one was going to critique it?
B) To me at first I agreed with what you said to an extent but can you take criticism? (NO RUDENESS INTENDED) If you can take what everyone said into consideration rather than backing out because you can't take it. Learn to take it. It will help your designs in the long run.

I know how you may feel because everyone does that ... But this is the internet. You placed your layouts on here to be judged and used. Sorry if you didn't know but your layouts get judged. And my suggestion? Take the critique some of these people are saying because some of its true.

Suck it up.
The end.

[*Steven*]

Hello Toya :)

[*Insurmountable*]

Honestly Deary, you came on here and complained why your layouts were being accepted, we asked to view them so we could give you a better reasoning as to why they were rejected. Like I said people have different views and opinions and with anything design related you better be open to constructive criticism because if you can't take the heat then you better get out of the kitchen so to speak.

I'm sorry you feel so judged or what not, but its something that happens.

B) To me at first I agreed with what you said to an extent but can you take criticism? (NO RUDENESS INTENDED) If you can take what everyone said into consideration rather than backing out because you can't take it. Learn to take it. It will help your designs in the long run.

Agreed, I love you Toya, you have a way with words

[forever-without-...]

its not the criticism thats bothering me: its the fact you all are still discussing this even after the discussion is over. And you need to learn a thing about difference b/w criticism and demeaning.
(i dont care if the grammar is wrong)
its easier to learn how to fix your layouts when someone says it kindly that when someone says: YOUR LAYOUTS SUCK.

and why can't we just leave it? b/c I don't care enough to argue with you.. especially when we are arguing over something that will have no outcome or use

[*Insurmountable*]

Honestly from some of the comments I could see them as unkind but a lot of others I just think your taking them the wrong way. This is the internet and you don't actually know how the person feels and if someone is just being honest with you then I don't think its really all that unkind.

Your layouts need some work in my earlier post I said what would make it look better. *shrug* you win some you lose some, get over it in lamest terms it isn't the end of the world.


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lol i'm not arguing with you at all, see your assuming the wrong thing.

But since you want to drop it so bad and want this topic closed then PM a head or admin to close it if you so please

[*tripvertigo*]

um did you not start this topic and talk shit about the current designs being accepted on cb while yours was not?

ok f**k you.

[forever-without-...]

it would be nice.

Topic closed. -- davinci

This post has been edited by davinci: Sep 10 2007, 12:02 AM