Rejected Options

[*Elba*]

So this topic is for all the staff applicants who did not make it. PM an admin or headstaff asking why you were not hired. If you would like to make it public, just post it in here so we can discuss it.

Here is mine:

So, we're supposed to PM someone to tell us why we weren't hired. I'd like to know please and if you could also go ahead and make it public, that'd be nice.

Haha, what do you mean by make it public?
Where?

You can make it public yourself I guess...

Here are some quotes

really don't think Elba always 'being herself' is an asset at the moment. The fact that she's always complaining about Diana is really not helping her since she isn't being positive about it.

Wow. What's all that about? I was actually considering Elba as one of the choices, but nevermind. I don't think she's such a good idea anymore. I'm not sure why so many people that were inactive and just came back for a few weeks or the people who were the troublemakers decide to apply for staff.

f I could choose from the three, I think Elba is most suited to be a moderator if you look past her many "crimes" (member bashing, hacking, spamming and a great interest in Backstage)... But the problem is, who's to say she is really trustworthy?

I'm not going to get into the whole Elba situation, but I do feel that if she can't respect the staff, how will she represent us in a good light? I understand that people say she'd be a breath of fresh air, but aren't there other people who would be a breath of fresh air who don't have such negativity towards the staff? She's gotten into trouble... and I understand that shouldn't bias opinions about her, but I think the fact of how recent it is should.

Basically, the conflicts between you and Diana, and what was assumed to be disrespect towards the staff members. My only issue with that is Spencer did the same thing, yet they hired him. If you want to know why I am saying "they", it's because I didn't agree with a lot of decisions that were made.

I hope that helps.

[1angel3]

Hello, Naomi. =)

We went back and forth several times with you and it was really difficult to decide. You were REALLY close, like on the edge close. A few things that were mentioned was that you haven't been here that long. Another is that as a moderator, we face a great deal of adversity. Something that is vital is that you really have a lot of strength. I see that coming forth from you, especially in recent posts. I really think that the next session you have an outstanding chance. Keep active, that is really important and make sure that you have a very clear "voice", meaning, you stand up for what you feel is right.

Does that make any sense?

Here is mine, but mine was good and I'm not mad.

[*Elba*]

Yours is nice, mine sucked

Was there nothing good to say about me? D:

Oh, and why were Sandra and my best friend Spencer chosen over me?

[*tripvertigo*]

thats a load of shit.

spencer was modded and he got into as much trouble as you. i think its the fact that you WERE a mod in the past, and maybe they feel like you're disloyal.

[*Elba*]

Hey, wtf? I HAVE NO INTEREST IN BACKSTAGE. Who the hell said that?

[1angel3]

Yours is nice, mine sucked

Was there nothing good to say about me? D:

Oh, and why were Sandra and my best friend Spencer chosen over me?

Elba don't give up, try again next time. I'm trying again next time. Maybe they feel you isn't ready right now, I think you make a good mode.

[*Spencer*]

Elba, Sandra and I were told this...

Both of your interviews were good and impressive. Potential, blah blah blah! Breath of fresh air. You know.

Ultimately, we felt that you had potential and could bring some unique perspectives to Staff. It was also time to give people a chance. =)

Thomas, where did you get that from?

[*superstitious*]

Here's the thing guys and I know that there are a lot of people out here who are not going to agree. I'm going to let it out for you, be as candid as I can.

When looking at all the people that were applying, a lot of thought went into it. It wasn't just looking at so and so's application *nope, toss*, and so on. The entire team was looked at, both existing staff and potential new hires.

Believe me, not everyone on staff agreed with the final decision, I want you all to know that. This was by far the most interesting of hiring sessions I've seen here.

When I was personally looking at the applications, the interviews and looking through the forums I saw those that seemed like no brainer hires, I saw those that could definitely be a good staff member but were either to new too the site or felt like they needed more time, I saw those who danced on the edge of trouble (and seemed to enjoy it at times even xD) and those who sort of popped in out of nowhere and were either virtually inactive or sporadically posted.

What I tried to do is see how people were behaving and how they were communicating, particularly with staff. I was also looking at improvement as a whole. I was also looking at activity in general.

There wasn't anything personal involved at all and there were no favorites played. We took some chances on a few individuals and I really hope that they do well. I guess you can think that it's crap for me to say that, but I sincerely mean it. I think that it's great to try to give people a chance and see what they can do when the opportunity is given to them.

The reason I asked for people to PM is because I like the person to person interaction and sometimes that direct communication can really be nice.

This is by far not the last hiring session cB will see so there will be other opportunities. I just want you guys to know that this session was really a challenge, I think everyone on the then-current staff can agree on that.

I wish the new hires the best, I hope that the community will learn to accept them and I hope that those who were not hired this time around will stick around, contribute to the site and apply again.

[*Elba*]

^Yeah, cheer me up, please

[*SayBloodyMary*]

^ That's true.

It should be noted, like it said in Elba's PM, that individual comments given don't necessarily reflect the view of each individual.

Elba, I supported you fairly passionately, actually, and I wasn't alone. There was good with the bad.

[Rachel]

Hola, just PMed Suzzette so we can compare Elba.

Rachel i was impressed with bother her interview and application,but im going to have to stay neutral on her..

If I could be CERTAIN that Rachel would be back here and active constantly, I would hire in a hot minute. I don't have any other real qualms, other than minor reliability issues.

What an interview, Rachel. blink.gif Wow. I'm not sure about her. Her interview has got me baffled, but it seems like she's disappeared from her activity and has only come back for a little while.

I'd give Rachel a No. Great girl and everything, I just think she's definitely not as qualified as some of the other applicants.

Rachel: Still saying no. She's had too many chances. Her interview was excellent but they're just empty promises, just like last time. Give someone else a chance.

Rachel - Seriously she's been off and on I think she's had her chances. I also think she could be a little more active. Its like she popped out of nowhere. So I'm neutral on her.

Only one that really bothers me is the bolded. A lot of people on staff have stepped down and come back. And personally I feel like the last time I stepped down was a little forced but whateve.

[*Elba*]

Thank you James.

She's had too many chances
^Reminding me of my boyfriend.

Rachel, I thought you were more qualified than the three of us (Spencer, Sandra and I).

Oh, and here's my positive:

I'd rather give Elba a chance than him if it came to choosing. At least she's funny occasionally.

When I look at the big picture, I see her being pretty decent when actually on staff, and doing a lot to calm down the bias accusations.

Im willing to work will elba if she can work with me...

I think we should hire Elba, based on the fact that it would be a really good way to dispell the whole 'bias' thing we have going on. No, it isn't the ideal way to select a candidate, but I think it is a good idea to have someone on staff who maybe 'represents' that little group a bit better than maybe the current staff do. I see why people have those concerns about Elba, and I think they're valid. But I think that she is fundamentally a good person, and would do well in discussions backstage, and in trying to mend the divide between members and mods.

Like I said, breath of fresh air. Which I think is what we need

Elba? My oh my. The girl is funny, intelligent and does bring an element of 'life' to the boards.

I like Elba and her interview. She definately makes the room brighter (is that the phrase?) I think it would be nice having her on the staff. Shes respected by a lot of people and she'll certainly be fun. I like how shes honest with the negative questions

[*tripvertigo*]

its just cuz you had phone sex with them during your interview.

[*Programmer*]

Hm. I'd like to get mine if it's not to much trouble.

[*Insurmountable*]

yay there was a topic made

Do you guys want to hear mine? Their really long o_O Well one of them, how did you guys get those replies? I had to PM each head/admin and they all wrote a different thing...they didn't give me stuff like that...yours looks like it was directly from backstage.

[*Insurmountable*]

lol

I'm asking someone about it now, if they reply back to me..

Heres the PM's I got back though.

From Kiera:
Hello, Holly! The main reason we decided to wait on you this time around was because you had just came back around (as far as being active) when hiring started. All of us would have like to see you around more in some form or another before then. Nothing was wrong with your application or interview though. =]

From Rebecca:
Hi Holly,

The biggest reason you were not hired was because even though you post a little here and there, you were primarily inactive for quite a while. It truly seemed liked you recently came around. I'm not saying you did so because there was a hiring session, not at all. It was just the timing.

I would like to clear something up, just in case you were wondering. No one has any type of personal negative feelings for you, not at all. This was a very difficult hiring session because there were so many applicants. Seriously, when I saw them all I wasn't sure how were going to go about doing this because there was so many choices and so many honest to goodness excellent applications. At least I thought so.

Essentially, the staff make-up is a mix between a couple of rehires (like Frankie) and new folks. This round (and something I was personally advocating) I wanted to give new people, those who hadn't had much, if any experience on staff a chance.

All of this amounted to the final decision.

I really think that if you wanted to, and if were to stick around, the next round could be something really favorable for you. I also would like to commend you, applaud you (whatever they're calling it these days. I hate being a dorky old lady sometimes xD) for applying for both. I think it was a really different and unique way to apply. Also, your interviews were really great!

I hope you're not angry, I really do. This was sort of a long PM back, I hope that doesn't bug you. I just like to be as frank and as detailed as I can.


----- she never replied back to my reply


and well some of the other staff I think felt like their opinion wouldn't matter in the end no matter how big of fight they brought up. AC just PMed me back...so I'm waiting on his reply

Honestly though....I don't think each one of these people are giving me their personal feelings and what they thought of why i shouldn't have been hired...they just asked some other staff member Hey so and so wants to know why they didn't get hired and then someone else tells them what to say and they go back and say it I can't stand people that can't have opinions of their own and share them.

[*alovesopure*]

Honestly though....I don't think each one of these people are giving me their personal feelings and what they thought of why i shouldn't have been hired...they just asked some other staff member Hey so and so wants to know why they didn't get hired and then someone else tells them what to say and they go back and say it I can't stand people that can't have opinions of their own and share them.

... No, it wasn't like that.
They didn't ask anyone to give them a reason, they knew the general reason (from staff) about you not being hired and used that, instead of getting into personal reasons.
I don't think personal reasons should really be used during a hiring session. Bias = no good.

But yeah, I guess getting direct quotes from the hiring session thread backstage will help you to see that...

[*Insurmountable*]

how about chats too, am i allowed to get those too?

[*Insurmountable*]

I like the sound of AC's the best, I felt like he was actually honest with me completely

From AC:
Well, I feel that I don't know you all that well. But anyway, I think you were pretty qualified for the Design Staff considering your activity in the Resource Center and your work in the queue in the past. I think the biggest concern with you was how you communicate with other people. It's kinda tough for me to describe, but maybe somewhere along the lines of aggressive and condescending. Though, looking through your recent posts, I'd say you're improving (though it could still use improvement).

Also, I doubt your incident with making that Intercourse username played much of a factor in you not being hired, if that's any of your concern.

That's pretty much all I can say without guessing too much. =P




yea guys when I told you this about why i got kicked off staff:

Yea I made a new account because I couldn't get on my other account for some odd reason and I put an application for people staff on the other account..it was during a hiring period.

It was mostly a joke in which a few staff knew about and then it got blown out of proportion and a few mods thought of it is as more than what it was and said they lost trust and what not and ta da i was put on a leave for a month, tis' all. Not kicked off staff completely...although when I came back createblog just wasn't as fun and seemed like a big waste so I left completely mostly.

I come back every now and then.

no need in keeping it in the dark.

I was telling the truth

[Rachel]

BTW about my "sudden" activity, bullhoakie. I alwaaaaays have been a lurker and wouldn't reply to a topic unless it was a good topic, let alone that none of my friends were really active. Now that my friends are back and way more active, obviously I am going to be too.

[*Insurmountable*]

^Yea...I can agree with that...

I've always been active before this hiring i just didn't post on the forums that much..Mostly just commented people on the profiles that came with cb4

[*alovesopure*]

BTW about my "sudden" activity, bullhoakie. I alwaaaaays have been a lurker and wouldn't reply to a topic unless it was a good topic, let alone that none of my friends were really active. Now that my friends are back and way more active, obviously I am going to be too.

Well, that is how it looked.
A lot of people applied and then started posting a lot more... So yeah.

[*Sandraaa*]

Could someone actually post the reason why I was hired? I'd love for it to be made public.

[*Insurmountable*]

lol, you make it sound like your amazed you were given the position?

Didn't Spencer say it already?
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2668588

[*alovesopure*]

Sandra, Spenc posted this: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2668588

But I'm sure HS/Admins could pull more out from the applicants thread, if you just PM one.
And then you can choose to make it public if you'd like (Thats what most have been doing).

edit: Dang, Holly beat me. haha

[Rachel]

Well, that is how it looked.
A lot of people applied and then started posting a lot more... So yeah.

Well I think I was way more active before applying than afterwards. And there was a week that I wasn't active at all because my boyfriend was visiting, the first seeing him in a month, plus I posted in the absence thread. Oh well, whatever, I just kind of see that as a bullshit reason.

[*Sandraaa*]

But that's like only two opinions. I want more like Elba and the rest did.
I also want the negatives. I'm curious man!!

Holly, yes, I was indeed surprised.

[*ersatz*]

Rachel: You may have been active, but if you don't post a lot like you said you didn't, how is anyone supposed to know you're active? We don't know when people lurk.

[*Uronacid*]

I think Josh is a f**king fag, I don't know who the hell he thinks he is or why he talks. He never get's off his "high" horse. He's is so dumb, and doesn't know. I think he has hit a glass ceiling being a white male. There is no way we would hire for him this job even if he are qualified for it. I told him he was an ignorant, and he so dumb he did not take the clue. I'm glad Josh is not Black or Homosexual, because those would be two more reason I would not hire him. I wish his mother aborted him as a child.

That was James' response, and quite frankly I'm upset. You know what, f**k you James. I am Black, and I am a Homosexual. So f**k you. You're such a jerk. I never want to hear from you again. I can't believe you wouldn't hire me if you knew I was black or homosexual.

I am proud of what I am. I think you are a beautiful person, and I would never say anything like that about you. I would even sex you if you wanted.

[*SayBloodyMary*]

No, Josh, I wouldn't hire you.

I will, however, provide you with a verbal warning for spamming.

[bat19]

Come on James, thats totally irrelevant to the topic at hand. Dont get mad because Josh showed what PM you sent him, those were your own words, stop trying to pin it on everyone else. The fact that you're a rascist, homophobic f uck shouldnt have anything to do with whether or not Josh gets hired or not. Bad form dude, thats pretty f**ked up

[*davinci*]

Why does it matter what James said about Josh? Josh didn't even apply this time.

[*Uronacid*]

Why does it matter what James said about Josh? Josh didn't even apply this time.

It totally applies... omg, you're homophobic and racist

[radhikaeatsraman]

Josh, SHUT UP. Seriously, you're not contributing to the thread by martyring yourself. (Yes, I know you are neither black nor homosexual.) You're being extremely annoying, so just quit it.

And James, I'm appalled. Yes, Josh is annoying to the extreme, but those were extremely offensive comments. I would never have expected something like that from you.

edit: I feel stupid. -__- Sorry, James! And you're an idiot, Josh.

[*Uronacid*]

Josh, SHUT UP. Seriously, you're not contributing to the thread by martyring yourself. (Yes, I know you are neither black nor homosexual.) You're being extremely annoying, so just quit it.

"God... when are you just going to be real with me. I'm serious, I am black ,and I'm a homosexual."-Brad Pitt

"You Shutup"-Ben Stiller

[radhikaeatsraman]

Again, you're not contributing anything to this thread. Shut up.

[Rachel]

Rachel: You may have been active, but if you don't post a lot like you said you didn't, how is anyone supposed to know you're active? We don't know when people lurk.

I am not logged on as invisible, ergo you can see I'm always on and plus, while I was a moderator, I even posted backstage that I don't post in useless topics. Pretty sure other mods did the same, first one that comes to mind is Michael.

[*Uronacid*]

Again, you're not contributing anything to this thread. Shut up.

"You Shutup, I'm a black homosexual."-Ben Stiller

[*SayBloodyMary*]

Well I think I was way more active before applying than afterwards. And there was a week that I wasn't active at all because my boyfriend was visiting, the first seeing him in a month, plus I posted in the absence thread. Oh well, whatever, I just kind of see that as a bullshit reason.

Sorry, but just so I can be clear, did you mean that you think we're lying as to the reason, or just that the reason itself isn't good?

[Rachel]

Sorry, but just so I can be clear, did you mean that you think we're lying as to the reason, or just that the reason itself isn't good?

Just that reason isn't too great.

[*Insurmountable*]

Well I would say the reason just isn't good enough :X

[*davinci*]

Well, it would've been nice if you had gotten a more rounded answer with both positive and negative statements.

[radhikaeatsraman]

"You Shutup, I'm a black homosexual."-Ben Stiller

*headdesk*
WHY WAS I REJECTED AS A MOD? *sob* Someone needs to warn this idiot, please. Looks like the new crop of mods isn't as on top of it as I thought.

[*Uronacid*]

*headdesk*
WHY WAS I REJECTED AS A MOD? *sob* Someone needs to warn this idiot, please. Looks like the new crop of mods isn't as on top of it as I thought.

"It's because you're a black homosexual"-Kate Winslet

[*Uronacid*]

Josh, I'm sure that you don't want your warning level to go up anymore... Cut it out.

No I don't you're right Thomas.

[*Programmer*]

Rico - Awww, poor Rico. :[ Not yet, but I think that perhaps in the future he may have potential.

Rico - Just came back, seriously people take him too much as a joke right now and it may cause some "stuff" in the future. But for reals I think he could be a good addition just not right now.

Rico - I don't think he's all that bad. But probably wouldn't hire him this time around.

Basically, although it wasn't on your own accord, you had just returned and thus, we didn't get the chance to see a lot of the oustanding qualities you may have. But you can see that we do think you have potential, so don't be discouraged.

I Will only state that i was forced to leave. So me coming back was not of my own accord. and have been a member consistently since Jan 2005 as an active official member up until that point...that should of had some affect.

But i also understand what was said...and respect the decisions of the staff.

[*Spencer*]

*headdesk*
WHY WAS I REJECTED AS A MOD? *sob* Someone needs to warn this idiot, please. Looks like the new crop of mods isn't as on top of it as I thought.

And you were perfect your first week? I doubt it. Cut us some slack. You know what goes on as you were a mod before, so stop acting like we should be at the top of our game right now and know exactly how to do everything.

[bat19]

"Umm, what would I have to do to be hired as a moderator? I'll do anything you want me to. I'll cut the slander, stop the bullshit, anything short of giving everyone sexual favors, unless you really want me to. Men need not apply, minors need not apply(17 is okay, sometimes)."- John Ritter

"It's because you're a black homosexual"-Kate Winslet

"Yeah, I saw that one. It was called "Swankers" and it co-starred the retarded midget kid from Simon Birch."- Mark Harmon