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![]() we jerkin' ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,408 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 210,730 ![]() |
Is smoking weed that harmless?I know for certain alcohol and cigs can mess up your life but other than the mtv commercials whats wrong with weed?
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I don't see anything wrong with it, especially filtered. I mean sure it's not "good" for your lungs, but filtered pot isn't that bad at all. There are medicinal benefits from it too, outside of feeling happy and laughy.
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haha I wrote a paper on why weed should be legalized. well, studies have "linked" heavy weed smoking to cancer, but I don't think it's a big deal unless you spend all day smoking everyday.
but it impairs your judgement, so when you're high you might get yourself in dangerous situations. and you "get boring" but if you smoke with friends it's actually fun haha. personally, I don't smoke just because it's not worth the trouble that could come with it |
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Not dangerous if you don't leave a safe location :)
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^ word.
but they'll never legalize it. if they do, there will be idiots who abuse it or get into accidents or kill people and blame it on the weed. ![]() ![]() |
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There are idiots who abuse alcohol and drive under it's influence yet that's legalized. If they legalized it at least they could regulate it and tax it -.-
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Ugh. I know. but alcohol is more acceptable- America would never vote for banning booze. but weed is a drug, and drugs have a bad rep.
but uh, how can you regulate and tax weed? you can grow it in your yard! it's like placing a tax on roses... |
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^ But alcohol is a drug.
People say weed isn't addicting, but I disagree. It may not be physically addicting, but it's mentally addicting. So is anything that gives you a good feeling...You can't enough of it, and you want more. What's bad about it? I guess it's because you're in an altered state of mind.. |
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![]() Semi-Retarded Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 549 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 175,317 ![]() |
Oh... well still, weed has a bad rep.
I agree, it's mentally addicting which is another reason whyyy they'll never legalize it. But they should make alcohol illegal. that is physically addicting, according to my science book. ![]() |
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i'm not necessarily for or against it
but i do think ur in an altered state of mind, u can't make responsible choices, things like driving are out of the question, ur a hazard to urself and everyone on the road. and yea i agree that alcohol is just as bad with that, but why do we need another legal thing that puts u in a messed up state of mind? also, are they gonna put an age limit on it? |
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why not have "another legal thing that puts u in a messed up state of mind?" we have alcohol. doubt it'll make a big difference, especially if they place an age limit like 21...
but asdf what's so bad about it?! i have friends that get high at home with other friends. they have yet to make stupid decisions like driving when high... i guess it depends on the person. move to canada if you want to be able to smoke it legally ![]() |
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Ugh. I know. but alcohol is more acceptable- America would never vote for banning booze. but weed is a drug, and drugs have a bad rep. but uh, how can you regulate and tax weed? you can grow it in your yard! it's like placing a tax on roses... Alcohol is a drug too. Alcohol inhibits your reactions. I've driven while high, and while it might not have been the smartest thing I've done, I've been perfectly fine every time. The more you smoke, the more inhibited you are, but that's the same with drinking alcohol. Easy enough. They regulate and tax alcohol and cigarettes, why not weed? ^ But alcohol is a drug. People say weed isn't addicting, but I disagree. It may not be physically addicting, but it's mentally addicting. So is anything that gives you a good feeling...You can't enough of it, and you want more. What's bad about it? I guess it's because you're in an altered state of mind.. Yar Oh... well still, weed has a bad rep. I agree, it's mentally addicting which is another reason whyyy they'll never legalize it. But they should make alcohol illegal. that is physically addicting, according to my science book. ![]() Weed indeed does have a bad reputation. I smoke weed here and there and I have never once had a craving for it or planned on it for more than a couple hours in advance. i'm not necessarily for or against it but i do think ur in an altered state of mind, u can't make responsible choices, things like driving are out of the question, ur a hazard to urself and everyone on the road. and yea i agree that alcohol is just as bad with that, but why do we need another legal thing that puts u in a messed up state of mind? also, are they gonna put an age limit on it? An age limit would be appropriate. It's not like people are going to stop smoking it if it's not legalized. If they legalized it they would have a good deal of control over it and would be able to profit from its sales. |
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how much control would they have? I guess you could require a license to sell and sell at stores yadyaya in my essay I had suggested specific stores that have to be like 100 yards away from schools or religious buildings...
anyways, I got no problems against weed, I'm just trying to be realistic about it. exerpt from my essay! (it's short, wrote it the night before it was due) " . Too much federal and state money is spent fighting the selling of marijuana when it could be spend against more serious and harmful drugs like cocaine and heroin. Yes, marijuana can slow your reactions and alter your state of mind while you’re high, but aside from the high time, it has no long term effects. Many studies “link” marijuana to cancer because of certain cancer-causing chemicals found in it, however, there are many vegetables that contain far more of those chemicals. Unlike cigarettes, marijuana has no addicting chemicals and has yet to be proven to cause cancer. Sure, pot may increase your chance of getting cancer, but only if used heavily and frequently. Virtually no one smokes marijuana for it to lead to any kind of problem. The only way it can affect your health is if paired with cigarettes or hard alcohol. When many people hear the words marijuana and legalized in the same sentence, they often imagine everyone turning into potheads, and the law being completely liberal, but that’s not the case here. If marijuana were to be legal, only licensed vendors would be allowed to sell, and buyers must be 21 or older and able provide ample identification. Store owners would have the right to refuse to sell to anyone if they are suspicious about the authenticity of the I.D. provided. These stores wouldn’t be within a 500 foot radius of any schools or religious buildings. Buyers could purchase up to 1 ounce every day, but not more, and a tax would be placed on it. " |
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They could impose restrictions that are a combination of the laws regarding both cigarettes/cigars and alcohol.
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I think it's just the same as alcohol. We dont really have a problem with this here because i live in Holland. Not that we're all junks or whatever xD
You don't get addicted to it fast, in my opinion. The effect when you smoke weed is not really different then from alcohol, just more.. calm, when you get really bouncy from alcohol :P |
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^Yar, cept I get kinda silly when I'm high. Being high is also a very mental thing, outside of the drug itself. You perceive people high acting stupid, so you assume that's what it does to you. Then you act that way regardless if the drug is doing it to you or not, simply because that's what you think you should be doing.
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just to put my two cents in,
in the past two months or so, the BBC has brought to light quite a few cases in the UK where the amount of harm there is towards "chronic" weed users. for example, a woman in the UK was diagnosed with emphysema at the age of 37. it is believed that weed is the cause of it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6551327.stm here's another interesting article about weed and murders linked to it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6484653.stm |
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You know, the fact that weed is illegal in a lot of countries just gives the opposite effect.. more people WANT to use it. That's when you get the problems, i think.
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Yeah but there are equal studies with evidence proving the opposite. Regarding the murderer, that's not because of weed, it's because that person is a bad person and they used weed as an excuse to do what t hey desired.
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QUOTE Double murder The grim warning of Reefer Madness appeared to be played out for real this week with the jailing of teenager Thomas Palmer, who stabbed his two friends to death after a history of heavy cannabis use. During his trial, a doctor who had been treating Palmer since his arrest told the jury: "I believe that his state of mind at the time of the killings was not normal. "This was exacerbated, but not caused, by cannabis." - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6484653.stm exacerbated means to make worse or irritate. SO NOT CAUSED BY WEED! it's not that bad! asdf!! |
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muhfucka yo mama's a bitch ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1,461 Joined: Feb 2007 Member No: 506,674 ![]() |
Weed is bad for you, no doubt. But so is too much TV, food, and deodorant. While marijuana smoke is 5x as bad as cigarette smoke, it is not physically addictive.
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Medical and Regular Babbage Crap = two different things. let's not try to categorize. alcohol and weed in the same class. There has not been one death by smoking maryjane. and it's actually better for you then cigarettes are.
I don't smoke it but I am just saying. |
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im an occational pot smoker?
who gives a shit? were young. look at the f**king hippes trying to be all ANTI-pot now, suck on my SHIT hippiess! |
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Weed in my opinion is no worst than cigarettes. Cigarettes are more addictive than weed. It depends on the person too. I say this because my dad have smoke weed for years and stop because his job. Now jobs are cracking down on cigarettes too. When you isn't allow to smoke AT ALL (Not even outside, that's mostly hospital though). For my parents it was harder to stop smoking than anything. I think cigarettes should be illegal.
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![]() yan lin♥ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,129 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,627 ![]() |
Yeah but there are equal studies with evidence proving the opposite. Regarding the murderer, that's not because of weed, it's because that person is a bad person and they used weed as an excuse to do what t hey desired. i know, i know. but the kid wanted some examples where weed is harmful, so i gave him some. ![]() |
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I don't agree with neither.
There's way better ways to have fun than this. You don't need to be intoxicated..if you do, your pathetic |
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I honestly don't see how marijuana is illegal, yet alcohol and ciggarettes aren't. I remember hearing on the radio once that weed causes paranoia or something, but that's only if you're an avid pot smoker. For the most part, I don't think it should be illegal to begin with and as long as people are smart about how they use it, it shouldn't be a problem.
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It's not a need, rather a want. Is that pathetic? Am I pathetic because I've smoked pot numerous times?
edit: Weed only causes paranoia because you don't want to be caught. I've never been paranoid about anything except police. |
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^It does. You could interpret that 2 ways:
legalize marijuana since people do it with alcohol anyways. prohibition again, but we saw how well that worked. Both marijuana and alcohol are good for you in moderation. A glass of red wine every day gives you a stronger heart. Marijuana has medical benefits. |
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What I don't understand is why people need
these kinds of things... |
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![]() we jerkin' ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,408 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 210,730 ![]() |
so basically next time when my friends go smoke, im not going to lose 10 years off my life =) if i do it to.Woot i think tommoro im going to go.
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^Have you ever been high before?
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What a funny topic.
Drinking is worse than smoking. Smoking is worse than weed. That's just my opinion. I heard somewhere that the only reason why weed was illegalized was because it supposedly made "black men rape white women". I think/hope that's just propaganda. |
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^ I think it is, that's is the first time I heard something like that
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I heard somewhere that the only reason why weed was illegalized was because it supposedly made "black men rape white women". I think/hope that's just propaganda. i've heard that it was made illegal as a way to harass minorities, they made claims that it made minorities more violent. because supposedly (at the time this law was made) black and mexican communities preferred marijuana, while people of european descent preferred alcohol. the white people got to keep theirs, while the minorities didn't. but that's just something i've heard that similar to what u said, i've never read that anywhere credible it's obviously ridiculous no matter what, we all know ANY race is more likely to be violent while using alcohol |
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*sigh* Smoking cigarettes is worse than smoking marijuana. |
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the way i look at it
if you wanna smoke cigarettes - go ahead, i choose not to i drink and smoke pot though im against driving drunk, but ill drive high, because im still aware of whats going on, and im not basically an idiot and when youre drunk you are. |
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... *sigh* Smoking cigarettes is worse than smoking marijuana. i don't think so. it depends what you mean by worse. cigarettes are more likely to give you cancer, but cigarettes don't "change your state of mind" like weed does. and oh yea, cigarettes are physically addictive, your body can get hooked to it, but that doesn't apply to weed. |
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![]() AttacKATTack! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 697 Joined: Jun 2007 Member No: 536,660 ![]() |
So? Cigarettes will kill you. Weed just makes you feel out of it for a while.
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^ 5 times as "worse"? Don't you mean 5 times as "bad"?
And would you like to provide some evidence for your assertion? |
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muhfucka yo mama's a bitch ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1,461 Joined: Feb 2007 Member No: 506,674 ![]() |
No, but I'll do it anyway. I think you're getting confused in that cigarettes are mainly extremely harmful due the addictiveness of nicotine thus smoking it for however many years. Marijuana doesnt contain any substance that is physically addictive thus one could possibly quit at any time if there was no mental addiction.
QUOTE A more accurate comparison based on studies by Dr. Tashkin's group is that marijuana smokers absorb four times as much tar in their lungs than cigarette smokers per weight smoked. http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06364mj2.html |
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You will die.
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Weed doesn't cause lung cancer like tobacco does.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...2501729_pf.html I read about that earlier on this year. Apparently THC keeps cells from becoming cancerous. And according to this article, it may fight lung cancer? I guess that's related to THC keeping cells from becoming cancerous. http://www.forbes.com/health/feeds/hscout/...cout603764.html Weed is likely to cause chronic bronchitis, though. |
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^Ah yes, I have that wonderful pot cough. It's quite fun.
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I hate when you cough or laugh while hittin it :(
Also it's unfair to say that weed is a definite amount as bad or worse than cigs. There are so many ways to smoke weed, not to mention, eating it. There are bongs, vapes, hookahs, blunts, joints, etc. |
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i start my day with about 4 beers, but im not addicted at all...i can quit anytime
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i feel the need to throw it out there that 180 hits of a hooka is equivalent to 1 hit of cigarette if you are smokin sheesh out of it
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i've heard that it was made illegal as a way to harass minorities, they made claims that it made minorities more violent. because supposedly (at the time this law was made) black and mexican communities preferred marijuana, while people of european descent preferred alcohol. the white people got to keep theirs, while the minorities didn't. but that's just something i've heard that similar to what u said, i've never read that anywhere credible it's obviously ridiculous no matter what, we all know ANY race is more likely to be violent while using alcohol During prohibition weed was used in place of alcohol. I believe some politician created propaganda against weed so he could get elected into some office...or something like that. That's what I get for not paying attention to the history channel. It's been 70 years today since marijuana has been illegal. |
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If weed was legalized in Belgium, I think my dad would buy everything. Honestly? NO, it shouldn't. I can't bare people I love wasting their lives smoking that shit (except my dad). I'm going all emotional and I don't know why.
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i dont know what it is, but something about smoking just looks dirty...
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^The smoke?
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i used to think that pot was OMGZ so horrible.
sooooooo horrible. like... disgusting and dirty and the worst drug in the world. until i smoked it for the first time may of last year. and i would have to say.... during the time that i've smoked it.. i have been able to stop taking my anti-depressants, because it helps with my stress and mood levels. i have been able to cope with my FMS (chronic pain condition called Fibromyalgia) much better than before. aside from my own personal health, it also helps with MS, glaucoma, lung cancer, among other health issues. and it's all in all, non medicinally, a social drug. I've been a drinker for a long time, and i work in bars. I can easily say, I would much rather smoke a joint or a bowl, and get high, than get drunk any day. Pot doesn't make you get up from your table and get into bar-fights, or pick fights with somebody just because they looked at you wrong. It doesn't make you act like a complete and total fool in the way that alcohol does. Sure, you laugh a lot at the stupidest stuff (like ... your friend's face), but it can also open your creative side. I've made many graphic arts and digital pictures that i'm still super proud of when i've been under the influence of pot. i've been able to analyze and realize things that i would never have even thought of if i were sober. it's like a light goes off in your head and out of nowhere you think "omg! i just realied that the reason why i dont like ______ is because ____________ happened! no, seriously dude, think about it!" and you go off on your story and everybody understands. what do you get from drinking? a night of puking? bruises that you can't explain? hungover? how often do you hear about high-driving accidents as opposed to drunk-driving accidents? how often do you hear about fights that happen when people are high, as opposed to drunk people? i mean, granted, any kind of smoke you inhale into your lungs is going to be hazardous, but pot is nowhere near as harmful as cigarettes. considering the fact that avid pot smokers will smoke 2, maybe 3 joints a day... maybe more, if your'e more social... 5 joints a day, but still.... avid cigarette smokers will smoke up to 1-2 packs a day. (that's 20-40 cigarettes a day) pot isn't legal because the government will not be able to tax it. you can grow it yourself relatively easy... a hell of a lot easier than it is to make your own alcohol. they tax the hell out of cigs, and alcohol. they can't make money off of pot, and they wouldn't be able to control the "drug trafficking" that would surely go into overdrive if it was legal. |
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Actually, the govt could tax pot. They would just have to start selling it. Believe me, people would start flocking to pharmacies or whoever sold it once it's legalized. The govt could also regulate it. I mean, Salvia is legal, why not pot?
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Actually, the govt could tax pot. They would just have to start selling it. Believe me, people would start flocking to pharmacies or whoever sold it once it's legalized. The govt could also regulate it. I mean, Salvia is legal, why not pot? not many people know about Salvia.... ;) true the govt COULD tax pot, and COULD sell it, but... they wouldn't make too much money on it, because once it became legal, anybody could grow it themselves... who'd want to go buy it from the pharmacy for x amount when they can either grow it, or buy it from a friend for way less? And i thought Salvia was only not illegal because it has never been approved by the FDA.... |
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I forget the exact reason why Salvia is still legal, but
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Weed is the best.
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^ great debate there
i agree with steven, i think weed could be taxable and i think it would work out good. because i don't think the majority of people would go through the trouble to grow it themselves if they were just casual smokers, they'd just go buy some from a pharmacy just because it would be more convenient. especially younger people |
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I don't think anything is bad if its used in small amounts. I don't smoke weed though because I don't like smoking that much.
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I don't see why it's illegal either. I just want to know why people do it to begin with? Is it fun? B/c personally, I can have fun without it. I get really giddy and bubbly and act stupid with my friends with or without being intoxicated.
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I smoke every night if I have the money and if I have nothing to do. But it's f**kin expensive. Acid is pretty cheap, heroin is probably expensive, shrooms are marginal, New York weed is excellent, Ive heard that mid-west weed is so-so.
Anyways....what was the point of this? Oh yeah, weed is bad, dont do it. But if you're bored and you aint got nothin else goin on, smoke all you want. Make sure to buy some abstract paintings and find the hidden images. I just did it yesterday, twas awesome. Twas, twas. |
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Eh I used to smoke a couple days a week every week over the summer. It was kinda pressured onto me though, and I'm a lil turned off by it now. I have had some amazing experiences though. Once I went to Starbucks and lived another life while ordering a drink.
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Drinking makes you a lot more lively, but also more prone to do stupid things. I have so many stupid drunk stories that I shudder to think of them. I havent gotten drunk in a while. Ive drank, but havent gotten drunk in a long time.
I like when Im drunk to the point where I wont do stupid things, but I'll start to do things without any regard of the consequences. This would be the time I call that girl a bitch, or I tell her she's f**king beautiful and I want her. This is also the time I come up with very funny things to say, it's what Im known for when I drink. Do I thinks smoking weed is harmless? Well, no, not really. It's harmless if you just want to relax, but if you're going out and doing stuff, like driving, then no, thatd be a bad idea. When you're high, you dont really care what you say, so it's best not to talk to people you dont like. |
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there have been studies of brain activity being lost by smoking.
i watched it on some old youtube video if i can find their study |
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there have been studies of brain activity being lost by smoking. i watched it on some old youtube video if i can find their study YOUTUBE IS AS CREDIBLE AS WIKIPEDIA It's a scholarly source. There have also been studies of Marijuana helping heal the body. OMG CONFLICTING CONSEQUENCES! ZOMG |
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Actually, the govt could tax pot. They would just have to start selling it. Believe me, people would start flocking to pharmacies or whoever sold it once it's legalized. The govt could also regulate it. I mean, Salvia is legal, why not pot? Actually I would have to disagree with you. If they were to sell it, they would charge probably ten dollars more than what a gram costs. Medicinal pot is already twenty dollars. So, if they were to legalize it they would probably sell it for thirty a gram plus tax. At this time it would probably still be illegal to grow it or get it anywhere else. Salvia does not last nearly as long as bud. Just a thought. |
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Actually I would have to disagree with you. If they were to sell it, they would charge probably ten dollars more than what a gram costs. Medicinal pot is already twenty dollars. So, if they were to legalize it they would probably sell it for thirty a gram plus tax. At this time it would probably still be illegal to grow it or get it anywhere else. Salvia does not last nearly as long as bud. Just a thought. That's true but it's the concept. I mean, pot doesn't make you hallucinate and think you're getting attacked by an army of ants crawling out of the wall. I think people would still buy it if it were 30/gram. Actually, no one would pay 30/gram when they can buy it for 10/gram. If the govt charged say 50% more I think people would still buy, though. It would all depend on how the govt played their cards. |
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i HATE when someone says it is harmless.
i'm pretty sure people can and DO get in car accident that were stemmed from pot and the slow reaction time it gives you. "pot never killed anyone." my pot loving friend even had the balls to say, "i mean, it's not like anyone dies from second hand smoke. 50,000 people a year? yeah right." i replied with, "my grandmother died of second hand smoke." anyways, i know it wasn't from pot smoke but other things but to say that people generalize facts that come with drugs. |
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Nothing's harmless. A common argument, however, is why keep alcoholic beverages legal and not pot? Both can be beneficial to you, both can be detrimental. From my experience, high people drive slower and more paranoid, while drunk people drive faster and more reckless.
I doubt anyone's going to die from pot second hand smoke. If they're going to be around the pot smoking all the time, chances are they're going to smoke some too. Also, pot smoke isn't something you just run into on the streets, that gets you in jail if you smoke there. Pot smokers are around people who know they're smoking pot and choose to be there. |
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Pot smokers are around people who know they're smoking pot and choose to be there. True but not all of them. My dad is a pot smoker who chooses to smoke his pot AT HOME. And no, my sister and I aren't pot smokers. My dad wouldn't want to ruin his reputation by being around fellow pot smokers. That's what he says. I don't think pot should be made illegal, not at all. I just think that someone should invent a pot-smoker-screening machine who can tell if the smoker will be reasonable or not (pure dream). People abuse it thus giving it a bad image. I wouldn't want cigarettes or alcohol banned at all but with the excessive abuse, it seems like the right thing to do. For my dad, it all started with cigarettes, then cigars, then pot, then cocain. I don't know what else he's taken. Smoking weed is illegal in Belgium (I heard it on the radio, I haven't checked it up yet) and I think it should remain so until the government figures out a way to handle it. A 16 year old kid (this made the headlines in my country) was banned at school for smuggling pot into classes, then decided to take his revenge on the principal by stabbing him. Either the governement finds a way in making pot legal under reasonable counts which I hope will reduce illegal pot related activities, either they keep it illegal and do whatever it is they're doing now (which isn't that bad). ![]() |
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Sounds like your dad's a loser and exception, though.
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-Ignores the loser comment-
Anyway, I know someone else who'd rather smoke pot at home but he's got pot smoking friends so he doesn't count. |
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I don't see why so many people are against it! My god!
It's fine with me if you don't do it, but why preach about it? I smoke weed, and I do it responsibly. I have a good job, and I it doesn't interfere with my work. I have never been in an accident because of it, I have never been to jail because of it, I have never even done something significantly stupid because of it. It depends on who you are and how you do it. Also, It can't be THAT bad for you if they prescribe it. I actually started smoking when I was younger and had KILLER headaches. It's always made them go away when nothing else could. ![]() |
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