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post Jul 25 2007, 03:24 PM
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I notice that most people are followers when it comes to wearing cloths or talking a certain way...to the way you eat...to how you make your bed...for some reason it seems like people look at trend setters and mimic many things about them...why is this?...do trend setters have such a big influence that we all just tend to follow sub consciously without knowing?

I want your input in this matter. To better understand the population of the younger generation of today. Because it baffles me how much like sheep we all really are. blink.gif laugh.gif
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 03:26 PM
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post Jul 25 2007, 03:47 PM
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Sadly... the trends of today with these children is wearing skanky clothes, baggy clothes. Name brand clothes, no matter how much their parents have to suffer to come up with the money for their kids clothing. On top of that the music they listen to creates a curiousity in their minds. These curiousities is sex and drugs (this is obliviously obvious) Another problem is, they're communication skills. They're neglecting how to properly type, write, and speak. To make it worst, there's children at the age of 10 years old who's vocabulary consist of every curse word known to man. And it's all disgusting.


I don't have problems with trend setters, as long as they're positive. They're not a trend of which causes idolizing, dropping out of school, curiousities of drugs and sex. Etc...

I'm 23 years old, and to be honest, I don't care for name brand. I rather spend money on real needs and important things in my life. Than some stupid shirt with a brand on it. When the fact of the matter is... the shirt cost $3 to make, the person who made the shirt was only paid $0.30 to make it. And finally when they add the stupid brand name/logo, the shirt comes out being $20-$100.


I'd rather buy some non-name brand clothes that fit properly, look good, and matches with the rest of my outfit.

I'm a non-conformist. Not because I'm a follower, but because no one controls me, I make my own decisions consciously and subconsciously. Yes that is possible... just control your mind, don't let your mind control you. Naw mean?
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 03:47 PM
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Because whatever it is rather it's how you wear your hair or clothes. I think the singer/artist/model plays a big role on that. We do whatever look best on us base on skin tone or body structure, whatever looks better, that is the trend you is going to follow.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 03:50 PM
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i guess its the way we look at things. we see someone do something cool, or interesting. people think well why can't i do it like that? so they try to mimic it. its all a self concious [sp?] way that we live. i dont think ive met not one person, who hasn't taken the influence off another person. why? because we all do it. although me might not notice.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(KIDSISTER @ Jul 25 2007, 04:50 PM) *
i guess its the way we look at things. we see someone do something cool, or interesting. people think well why can't i do it like that? so they try to mimic it. its all a self concious [sp?] way that we live. i dont think ive met not one person, who hasn't taken the influence off another person. why? because we all do it. although me might not notice.


I fully agree with your post.

I will admit I do follow a trend, but one of which is nothing similar to society, common society at least.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 04:23 PM
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Survival is the focal point of conformity.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(davinci @ Jul 25 2007, 05:23 PM) *
Survival is the focal point of conformity.


Maybe for one who's narrow minded and lives inside the box. To think we should all conform in order to survive is foolish. I live and think outside the box... conformity is needed of course, like at work... and to conform to a country's language, culture, and way of life.

But you don't need to conform your thoughts and lifestyle. Sorry, I'm not controlled by Nazis. Think of it this way... technically normality is hard to define. Because there's many normalities, but they can contradict each other... just like conformities. What you think is normal, may not be normal to some one else. What you think you need to conform to in order to "survive" someone else may not think so.
 
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Then you conform to the idea of non-conformity. I don't believe that there is only 'one' lifestyle labeled as being 'normal'.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(davinci @ Jul 25 2007, 05:49 PM) *
Then you conform to the idea of non-conformity. I don't believe that there is only 'one' lifestyle labeled as being 'normal'.


Because there is no such thing as a normal lifestyle, I never claimed that.

That's what I admit, I conform to some things and I don't conform to others. Yes I conformed to non-conformist. But it's not a trend, because it's like saying, I'm normal.. when in reality, there is no normality, it's a contradiction or not normal depending the point of views.

Being non-conformist technically isn't a trend, it's a way of life and thought.

1. nonconformist

Contrary to popular belief, there IS such a thing as a nonconformist. However, they ARE rare. True nonconformists conform to their OWN ideas (which, in reality is not conforming at all). Since they only conform to themselves, they come in all different forms, depending on what type of person they are. In short, a nonconformist is a totally honest and transparent person who says what they think and does what they want.

^ This my friend, is who I am. A NON-CONFORMIST.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 05:32 PM
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I started copying my cousin's handwriting when I was younger cause It looked better then my current one back then...?
It kind of looks like hers but not really?

And I guess I look at magazines to see what they're wearing but I don't go out and buy the exact same thing, I work around it with what I have already.

We've all been copying somebody at some point, kids do it all the time to they're parents or siblings.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 25 2007, 01:47 PM) *
Sadly... the trends of today with these children is wearing skanky clothes, baggy clothes. Name brand clothes, no matter how much their parents have to suffer to come up with the money for their kids clothing. On top of that the music they listen to creates a curiousity in their minds. These curiousities is sex and drugs (this is obliviously obvious) Another problem is, they're communication skills. They're neglecting how to properly type, write, and speak. To make it worst, there's children at the age of 10 years old who's vocabulary consist of every curse word known to man. And it's all disgusting.


I don't have problems with trend setters, as long as they're positive. They're not a trend of which causes idolizing, dropping out of school, curiousities of drugs and sex. Etc...

I'm 23 years old, and to be honest, I don't care for name brand. I rather spend money on real needs and important things in my life. Than some stupid shirt with a brand on it. When the fact of the matter is... the shirt cost $3 to make, the person who made the shirt was only paid $0.30 to make it. And finally when they add the stupid brand name/logo, the shirt comes out being $20-$100.


I'd rather buy some non-name brand clothes that fit properly, look good, and matches with the rest of my outfit.

I'm a non-conformist. Not because I'm a follower, but because no one controls me, I make my own decisions consciously and subconsciously. Yes that is possible... just control your mind, don't let your mind control you. Naw mean?


I'm not sure about that. I see one useless thing in your profile picture. Haha.

Okay, i dont know. It may be important to you.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(Fist @ Jul 25 2007, 06:32 PM) *
I'm not sure about that. I see one useless thing in your profile picture. Haha.

Okay, i dont know. It may be important to you.


hm.... Bodybuilding? Well I love to look good, look muscular and be strong. I don't want health problems later... nor do I ever want someone to try and rob me or put a knife up to my neck lol.

Or the MP3 player?... I need the MP3 player for gym lol.. that's just a fact. My GYM plays crap music like Jessica Alba crap. I need heavy metal for the gym.
 
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 25 2007, 01:47 PM) *
Sadly... the trends of today with these children is wearing skanky clothes, baggy clothes.

Those are fads, not trends.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(MaAssIsWOW @ Jul 25 2007, 06:39 PM) *
Those are fads, not trends.


Ok I'm sorry, it's a fad in which will if not now become a trend.

It started as a fad, the fad has lasted long enough to become a trend, in my point of view. The fad has lasted over a decade... I think it could be called a trend by now, since it's a type of normality, at least in the U.S.

Look at what the kids are wearing. Then put it on nickolodeon (strong mispell) look at the cartoons and the shows.. look at how they're dressed.

I say it's a trend... some say it's a fad.

I agree it was/is a fad but now it's more of a trend.

Just sayin.

P.S. Example, the trend is wear skanky/baggy clothes the fad is adding details/patterns to the skanky/baggy clothes, and that type of design is popular so it becomes the fad of the decade/century etc...

Understand? Or no?
 
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 25 2007, 03:44 PM) *
Ok I'm sorry, it's a fad in which will if not now become a trend.

It started as a fad, the fad has lasted long enough to become a trend, in my point of view. The fad has lasted over a decade... I think it could be called a trend by now, since it's a type of normality, at least in the U.S.

Look at what the kids are wearing. Then put it on nickolodeon (strong mispell) look at the cartoons and the shows.. look at how they're dressed.

I say it's a trend... some say it's a fad.

I agree it was/is a fad but now it's more of a trend.

Just sayin.

P.S. Example, the trend is wear skanky/baggy clothes the fad is adding details/patterns to the skanky/baggy clothes, and that type of design is popular so it becomes the fad of the decade/century etc...

Understand? Or no?

About 80% of this post isn't really necessary. You're entire post was just basically "I agree it was/is a fad but now it's more of a trend."
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 25 2007, 03:44 PM) *
P.S. Example, the trend is wear skanky/baggy clothes the fad is adding details/patterns to the skanky/baggy clothes, and that type of design is popular so it becomes the fad of the decade/century etc...

Thats probably too confusing to some people so a better one would be...

"The use of hot pink wall paint may be a fad, but the idea of using designer colors would be a trend."

QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 25 2007, 03:44 PM) *
I say it's a trend... some say it's a fad.

Yeah.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 06:18 PM
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at my school, kids tend to dress preppy with expensive clothes...a lot of them do it to look 'cool'...but it just looks stupid
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(MaAssIsWOW @ Jul 25 2007, 07:07 PM) *
About 80% of this post isn't really necessary. You're entire post was just basically "I agree it was/is a fad but now it's more of a trend."

Thats probably too confusing to some people so a better one would be...

[b]"The use of hot pink wall paint may be a fad, but the idea of using designer colors would be a trend."
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Yeah.


Sadly your point of view isn't yours... instead you took it from a site.
And more sadly the person who gave that opinion must be a child or someone with no understanding. Their example they used was horrible in comparison and in tryin to prove a point.


Let me know when you get into college and take sociology. I'll be here (maybe) to hear your own opinions after you get a full understanding of fads and trends.

trend (trěnd) Pronunciation Key
n.
The general direction in which something tends to move.
A general tendency or inclination. See Synonyms at tendency.
Current style; vogue: the latest trend in fashion.


fad /fæd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fad] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun a temporary fashion, notion, manner of conduct, etc., esp. one followed enthusiastically by a group.

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It WAS a FAD but now it's more of a TREND than it is a FAD.
Why? Because it (the fad) evolved into a trend. Plain and simple.
 
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 25 2007, 04:31 PM) *
Sadly your point of view isn't yours... instead you took it from a site.
And more sadly the person who gave that opinion must be a child or someone with no understanding.

No shit sherlock, theres a reason why I put quotes.
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 25 2007, 04:31 PM) *
Let me know when you get into college and take sociology. I'll be here (maybe) to hear your own opinions after you get a full understanding of fads and trends.

Wow, quite sad when a grown man needs intellectualize himself in order to make himself feel better. Take a college course? Yes cause you know, once you take a college course, your knowledge about one subject becomes absolute. But I digress.
QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 25 2007, 04:31 PM) *
It WAS a FAD but now it's more of a TREND than it is a FAD.
Why? Because it (the fad) evolved into a trend. Plain and simple.

Evolved? Evolution takes time and everyone has their own definition of time thus circling us back to the fact that everyone has their definition of what a fad or a trend is. However, I thought we cleared that up before.
 
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i have to admit i wear a lot of HCO and Abercrombie not to mention Armani, BR, and Lacoste but it's becuase i like the way it looks. If no one thought that stuff was cool i would still wear it.
 
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perhaps this should go in the debate forum....i didn't know this was going to turn into one..? huh.gif
 
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 25 2007, 05:23 PM) *
1. nonconformist

Contrary to popular belief, there IS such a thing as a nonconformist. However, they ARE rare. True nonconformists conform to their OWN ideas (which, in reality is not conforming at all). Since they only conform to themselves, they come in all different forms, depending on what type of person they are. In short, a nonconformist is a totally honest and transparent person who says what they think and does what they want.

^ This my friend, is who I am. A NON-CONFORMIST.
what about all the mumbo jumbo you try to impose on us? you surely did not come up with it.
 
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post Jul 25 2007, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 25 2007, 04:17 PM) *
I fully agree with your post.

I will admit I do follow a trend, but one of which is nothing similar to society, common society at least.


thanks. i admit it too. don't we all though?!
we all can place ourself's in a group/class/label. well, if you can't i bet somebody else can.

If you absolutly [sp!!!] don't; then jeeze you're special.
 
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 25 2007, 03:36 PM) *
hm.... Bodybuilding? Well I love to look good, look muscular and be strong. I don't want health problems later... nor do I ever want someone to try and rob me or put a knife up to my neck lol.

Or the MP3 player?... I need the MP3 player for gym lol.. that's just a fact. My GYM plays crap music like Jessica Alba crap. I need heavy metal for the gym.



bodybuilding isnt a thing.
Music isnt the problem.

The thing you wrapped around your head.

 
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I guess everybody just wants to fit in. Maybe they're afraid that if they don't, they won't be fit to survive in the environment. Man...that sounded like such an Animal planet thing.
 
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Hmm... maybe people follow the trends b/c that's just how it works? I'm not sure how to explain it, haha. It's pretty hard nowadays for people to become huge trend setters b/c well, for one, so many people try so hard to be "different" that they end up looking the same... and rarely do individuals create and make their own clothes. I have sewn a few of my own outfits, but that is on a rare occasion (but they always turn out looking like THA BOMB). It's hard to be unique every day, if that makes any sense.

Talking about trends and fashion is mind-confusing @_@
 
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QUOTE(Fist @ Jul 26 2007, 01:02 AM) *
bodybuilding isnt a thing.
Music isnt the problem.

The thing you wrapped around your head.


You mean... the square of cloth that I'm using as a sweat rag? So that the sweat wouldn't get into my eyes when I was welding outside?
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QUOTE(MaAssIsWOW @ Jul 25 2007, 07:56 PM) *
No shit sherlock, theres a reason why I put quotes.

Wow, quite sad when a grown man needs intellectualize himself in order to make himself feel better. Take a college course? Yes cause you know, once you take a college course, your knowledge about one subject becomes absolute. But I digress.

Evolved? Evolution takes time and everyone has their own definition of time thus circling us back to the fact that everyone has their definition of what a fad or a trend is. However, I thought we cleared that up before.



Ok.
 
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QUOTE(twilightsamurai @ Jul 25 2007, 04:26 PM) *
I think some things we do subconciously without knowinggg..? mellow.gif And the rest is probably just because it's cool, you like it, or just 'cause you're one of those bandwagon hopper-onners <-- whatkindofwordisthat?

Yeah, I agree.
 

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