Losing the will to live Options

[IfICouldEscape]

Basically got no friends, no girlfriend, the one I want I can't have, I can't get over, someone spread a rumour about me, not true, feel like shit, I bottle it in my room every day, noone I feel like I want to turn to despite my parents being fine and that, don't socialise, depressed.

How do people make friends lol? All the people at my school I just don't like, or they don't like me, I have developed social anxiety, basically I fear talking to people now, never know what to say, feel as if I'm being judged, I can't break the ice, it takes me agessssssssss to get to know someone properly to the point where when I walk by them I can stop and talk and not just walk by either ignoring them or just nodding my head. I haven't been able to get to that point apart from 1 person who I hold to my heart as a real close friend. I never know how to take a friendship further after the first meeting or two, with me it just seems like they become nodding pals after a while and I'm just thinking what am I doing wrong excluding the rumour but in different environments. I start to think I'm just such a boring person when they meet me. I find that there's nothing for me to see someone for after the first meeting point or 2/3 etc. I feel like a stranger to them and don't seem to build and connections. Sometimes I just talk to them for the sake of not looking like a loner but really I'm just bored of them and vice versa most likely. I'm starting to feel anxiety when I talk to people I hardly ever do or when meeting people for the first time. That way I find it more comfortable to just avoid talking to people all together, I even avoid talking to anyone really, at least I feel calmer. I seriously don't know what to say to break the ice, it really affects me. Any suggestions, thanks in advance.

[*MyMichelle*]

It is really hard to just go up to someone and start talking, so maybe it'd be easier if you joined some sport or group thing where you're forced to interact with people? That way, they'll also have common interests with you. If you always feel like a stranger - that, sadly, is your own fault. You have to open up to people to actually have a connection.

Btw, it's not worth it to think that you want to die. Trust me. Things can get better.

[MrStrife]

Honest, I think you should be your own best friend first. But trust me man, I used to go through the same thing. Things get better with time and once you get to the point where you're comfortable enough with yourself to be open with other people, you'll see people will like you for who you really are. If they don't, they can go f**k themselves.

[EmoEyelinerx]

^ I agree with both of them. Like MyMichelle said join a group where your forced to interact with other people, when you talk to someone just try to be yourself, talk about music, tv shows etc.

[*steve330*]

Or get a job where you have to interact with others, employees and customers alike.

Help us help you out though, what kind of things do you do, like to do? What are you good at? What kind of people do you like?

[IfICouldEscape]

Well althought I hate referring to these labels as it's well known I'll use them. I dislike the whole emo/chav/goth type thing. I like normal people I like people that are sporty, if into football the better, good fun and is up for anything really, and someone who takes pride in what they look like. I don't think of it this way when meeting people but now you've asked me most likely people like that I would like. Just a normal active type young lad really who ain't a showoff, player druggy etc. I like my music too, but dislike meeting people when it takes over their whole life aka emo's.

[*steve330*]

And how old are you?

[IfICouldEscape]

17 (Feel like 85).

[*steve330*]

Intramural football. Football team. Join a school club or something. Change your outlook on life, I know it may be hard to do but if you should do that things look way better. Join a gym. Join clubs with similar interests you share.

[illriginal]

Intramural football. Football team. Join a school club or something. Change your outlook on life, I know it may be hard to do but if you should do that things look way better. Join a gym. Join clubs with similar interests you share.

^ Pretty much the best advice.

Get into the gym, you'll make friends in there. Most of the time athletic in some sort of sport. And most likely they won't be a druggy :P

Plus you're depressed? Kid (no offense) but uh.. there's children even younger than you, who get molested, have no parents, have diseases, have no home, are missing limbs, eat bugs instead of a juicy hot dog or burger or steak, that don't own clothes, hell that don't even have a roof over their heads etc...

You've gotta keep that in mind. You don't have much to be depressed about. Education should come before relationships, it keeps your mind healthy and keeps your priorities straight.

And about women? Guy, there's millions of women around the world. A thousand of them just in a square mile radius. Finding a women isn't hard. You're only 17 years old, I'm sure by the time you're 20 (assuming you won't destroy your image with the emo or even grunge look) you'll have your 5 girlfriend +/-.

Your wanting of a friend, well that's different, and understandable, because people like to have fun and socialize, which is great. In highschool, I had many many many friends, most of which just used people, and were back stabbers/two faced. After highschool, I sort of lost interest in friends and got more into reading, spirituality, self improvement.

Technically speaking I only speak to two of my friends which are cousins and I have a best friend who's in Japan working for the NAVY. I would tell you the amount of friends I used to have, but I'm not here to be braggadocious or anything.

School, sports, group activities have always been the best source to find friends. And it's not about goin up to some one and sayin, hey? will you be my friend? It's not like that.

It's relations. If someone has the same interests in music, shows, sports, women, cars, anything... anything at all. All it takes is an agreement of any sort and start things off. Then you can go from there askin them some other question within that same relation and see what else they might come up with that you would agree with and switch topics from there and so on. Get to know them, get to know their other interests. This shows interests of friendship. It's not hard to make friends trust me.

[*MyMichelle*]

Well althought I hate referring to these labels as it's well known I'll use them. I dislike the whole emo/chav/goth type thing. I like normal people I like people that are sporty, if into football the better, good fun and is up for anything really, and someone who takes pride in what they look like. I don't think of it this way when meeting people but now you've asked me most likely people like that I would like. Just a normal active type young lad really who ain't a showoff, player druggy etc. I like my music too, but dislike meeting people when it takes over their whole life aka emo's.

Haha, it's quite ironic that you would dislike them considering your thread is, well, um, pretty "emo." (I hate using that term in that way). If you have no friends, I wouldn't be judgemental about who I try to be friends with. "Beggars can't be choosers." haha. Seriously, though, you should get to know people before you label them. Some of them can actually be pretty cool.

[IfICouldEscape]

^ Pretty much the best advice.

Get into the gym, you'll make friends in there. Most of the time athletic in some sort of sport. And most likely they won't be a druggy :P

Plus you're depressed? Kid (no offense) but uh.. there's children even younger than you, who get molested, have no parents, have diseases, have no home, are missing limbs, eat bugs instead of a juicy hot dog or burger or steak, that don't own clothes, hell that don't even have a roof over their heads etc...

You've gotta keep that in mind. You don't have much to be depressed about. Education should come before relationships, it keeps your mind healthy and keeps your priorities straight.

And about women? Guy, there's millions of women around the world. A thousand of them just in a square mile radius. Finding a women isn't hard. You're only 17 years old, I'm sure by the time you're 20 (assuming you won't destroy your image with the emo or even grunge look) you'll have your 5 girlfriend +/-.

Your wanting of a friend, well that's different, and understandable, because people like to have fun and socialize, which is great. In highschool, I had many many many friends, most of which just used people, and were back stabbers/two faced. After highschool, I sort of lost interest in friends and got more into reading, spirituality, self improvement.

Technically speaking I only speak to two of my friends which are cousins and I have a best friend who's in Japan working for the NAVY. I would tell you the amount of friends I used to have, but I'm not here to be braggadocious or anything.

School, sports, group activities have always been the best source to find friends. And it's not about goin up to some one and sayin, hey? will you be my friend? It's not like that.

It's relations. If someone has the same interests in music, shows, sports, women, cars, anything... anything at all. All it takes is an agreement of any sort and start things off. Then you can go from there askin them some other question within that same relation and see what else they might come up with that you would agree with and switch topics from there and so on. Get to know them, get to know their other interests. This shows interests of friendship. It's not hard to make friends trust me.

Who said these are my only life problems? I have other very serious ones to contend with as well but can't discuss. What I've posted isn't a main cause for depression, it just topped up something else and kind of becomes one.

[IfICouldEscape]

Haha, it's quite ironic that you would dislike them considering your thread is, well, um, pretty "emo." (I hate using that term in that way). If you have no friends, I wouldn't be judgemental about who I try to be friends with. "Beggars can't be choosers." haha. Seriously, though, you should get to know people before you label them. Some of them can actually be pretty cool.

What? I was just stating my relationship problems, from what I wrote everyone who has a relationship problem is an emo then, that's what your saying right? I'm not usually judgemental but I don't fancy hanging around these ugly creatures ... I could be here all day with why I hate them, I've spoken to loads of them before and they're all the same.

[illriginal]

Who said these are my only life problems? I have other very serious ones to contend with as well but can't discuss. What I've posted isn't a main cause for depression, it just topped up something else and kind of becomes one.

I never said those were the ONLY life problems. I'm only answering to the specific ones you mentioned. I'm tryin to help you out a bit, I hate emos and would help anyone that's heading into that direction. Not that I'm sayin you are... but you do kinda seem emo.

As for your personal problems, you need to figure them out and tackle them. Don't depend on others to help you with your personal psychological problems such as depression.

Sorry I couldn't help you out, good luck with your mild problem.

[*Flair*]

I'm no shrink but I think you should get to know yourself. Also, you don't have to be this super friendly person, you can take things slowly too. Like people said, join clubs and whatnot.

I hope I helped you a tiny bit. Goodluck ...

And, you shouldn't live for others only, add yourself to the list. You'll be fine.

[*MyMichelle*]

What? I was just stating my relationship problems, from what I wrote everyone who has a relationship problem is an emo then, that's what your saying right? I'm not usually judgemental but I don't fancy hanging around these ugly creatures ... I could be here all day with why I hate them, I've spoken to loads of them before and they're all the same.

Not many title their topics "Losing the Will To Live"

[MrStrife]

Who said these are my only life problems? I have other very serious ones to contend with as well but can't discuss. What I've posted isn't a main cause for depression, it just topped up something else and kind of becomes one.

Chill out guy. We're only trying to help you out here. I mean just look at the title of your thread. Nobody is trying to judge you and if they are, they have no right. They haven't been in your shoes so they wouldn't know, but you shouldn't attack people who's willing to listen to your problems.

[xKatt]

Send me a message, ok?

I'd really like to talk to you one on one.

PS. I've had major depression for over 5 years. I know what it's like.

[kimmytree]

I think you're right about the social anxiety thing. I've been through the same thing, and that's what I have. Have you seen a psycologist/psychiatrist for your problem? Social anxiety is a mental disorder... something that never goes away. You can learn how to better cope with it, but its something that'll always be there.

I wish I could give you better advice... but I've tried to change too... and I've had no luck. That's why I have an appointment later this month.

But please dont think that you're life isnt worth living, especially over something like this! Good luck!

[illriginal]

I think you're right about the social anxiety thing. I've been through the same thing, and that's what I have. Have you seen a psycologist/psychiatrist for your problem? Social anxiety is a mental disorder... something that never goes away. You can learn how to better cope with it, but its something that'll always be there.

I wish I could give you better advice... but I've tried to change too... and I've had no luck. That's why I have an appointment later this month.

But please dont think that you're life isnt worth living, especially over something like this! Good luck!

You know that's something I've been told, that I have social anxiety. But I'm just quiet and observant, most of the time I only speak when spoken to. And sometimes I just don't waste a breath on people. I realize they gotta meet eye to eye for me to even bother socializing with them.

[fathomlessdame]

I used to struggle with depression...still do to a certain extent.

Its not worth it to die. its not! believe me, i wanted to..i wanted to really bad. and then i thought about all of my family, and what they would say about it. and i thought about ppl at school...how they would think of it if i killed myself. its a pretty selfish thing to do, ya know? its a unfixable option for a fixable situation...srry, bad wording..but you get what i mean right? once you do it, its done. you can't change your mind afterwards and say 'oh shit! i dont think i wanted to do that'

and yeah, YOU can change your situation. maybe see a shrink? i kno theyre a pain, but meds can help to a certain extent--they help you see things clearer. but most ppl dont like the idea of seeing a shrink...so anyways. also, put yourself out there! dont be shy! join clubs at school. join a sport! and dont be shy, if you keep to yourself, ppl aren't gonna try to talk with you--they'll probably think your just antisocial and not worth their time (which i doubt is true) i'm not saying you should all of a sudden be really bubbly and out there, but you gotta try. go up to someone and say 'hi, hows it going?" or talk about whatever theyre doing. maybey you might share interests and might click, you never kno until you try.

[illriginal]

and yeah, YOU can change your situation. maybe see a shrink? i kno theyre a pain, but meds can help to a certain extent--they help you see things clearer.

Or Chakra meditation. You don't need to pay for another human to feed you pills and try to explain to you what other people think on a normal basis. It's something that a person should have the drive/ambition to figure out.

I'd highly recommend meditation for any psychological problems.


But then again, if you have the money and you think another human knows your problems as well as you do lol, then get a psychologist/psychiatrist.

[fathomlessdame]

Or Chakra meditation. You don't need to pay for another human to feed you pills and try to explain to you what other people think on a normal basis. It's something that a person should have the drive/ambition to figure out.

I'd highly recommend meditation for any psychological problems.
But then again, if you have the money and you think another human knows your problems as well as you do lol, then get a psychologist/psychiatrist.

Whatever works

[*Flair*]

Or Chakra meditation. You don't need to pay for another human to feed you pills and try to explain to you what other people think on a normal basis. It's something that a person should have the drive/ambition to figure out.

I'd highly recommend meditation for any psychological problems.
But then again, if you have the money and you think another human knows your problems as well as you do lol, then get a psychologist/psychiatrist.

There you go again. There are those who need help from professionals.
You 'highly recommend' ... really? Wow, you are an expert in everything, aren't you.

[illriginal]

There you go again. There are those who need help from professionals.
You 'highly recommend' ... really? Wow, you are an expert in everything, aren't you.

Sorry, but uhm, psychological problems have always existed. And prescription drugs haven't. All I'm doing is giving the kid an alternative to pills. Which would be naturally done through meditation.

Here ya go schmuck!

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/mp/2002/12/3...23001320200.htm

http://www.pranichealingmea.com/faq_meditation.htm

http://www.lifepositive.com/Body/energy-he...iding-light.asp

http://www.wisdompubs.org/Pages/display.la...on=&image=1

http://www.spiritap.com/myweb/cha.html

http://sahajayogapa.org/Benefits(pa).html


Why don't you go learn something other than ignorant attacks about my knowledge. Worry about your knowledge before judging others' wisdom, especially mine. I'm not a fraud when I spit knowledge.

And yes dammit, I highly recommend anything that's factual and helpful... what the heck can you recommend? To hate on me?, damn groupie.

[*superstitious*]

Wow, I can't believe you guys can't have a discussion without belittling or name calling. I must be the most naive person over 30 here (well, I'm in an age bracket minority here regardless, but I regress).

I've been referred to as someone with "social anxiety disorder" for a very long time, well over 15 years. I get panic attacks, the shakes, I get sick to my stomach, you name it. I refuse to take any type of medication though. I can tell the story of my son (who has autism) and how many wanted (and pretty much intimidated me for a short while into doing so) him on medication (I took him off quickly, to say the least). That's a whole other discussion though with the punchline being that I am emphatically against psychotropic medications.

My point is that I understand what you are going through.

Some really sound advice has been given in this thread. The ones of particular interest (in my opinion) are finding like-minded individuals and meditation. I would start out with the second. If you can somehow find a way to find a calm within yourself, you will be in a better position to find kindreds, find those who you may be able to feel comfortable enough sharing your time with. I believe that it is next to impossible to feel peace until one has found peace within one's self first. There is no definitive or one magical all purpose way to do so, that's the catch. Each individual is unique and each pain, each element of loneliness can be exclusive, leading up to a general and at times overwhelming feeling of discontent and disharmony.

Try to not judge others or yourself and accept things for what they are and people for who they are, including yourself. If there are certain scenes you do not care for, stay clear of them and find what it is you do care for.

Breaking the ice is, by far, not a talent of mine. The people I know and are still close with are those that do not require much effort to talk to. Most of them are similar to me, in that they enjoy comic books, online gaming, writing, music and art (I can't draw or paint but I have a strong appreciation for both). Because of that, there is no obligatory ice breaking, we just are who we are and talk and laugh naturally.

[illriginal]

Wow, I can't believe you guys can't have a discussion without belittling or name calling. I must be the most naive person over 30 here (well, I'm in an age bracket minority here regardless, but I regress).

Sorry for the maturity level, flair a couple others kinda enjoy testing my tolerance and for some odd reason they have a problem with people who have minds they put to use for a purpose.

And I fully agree with your post. Now to read what our OP's thought is on all of this. Hopefully we didn't scare him off.

[*Flair*]

I honestly apologize Tamacracker. My point was - how can you know what's best for someone you don't know? The fact that you dismissed professional help ticked me off. Why not expand his options and let him choose?

Anyway, once again, I'm really sorry.

*sigh*

I don't feel well.

Oh, Rebecca, did you get my PM? Are you ignoring it?

[*superstitious*]

I honestly apologize Tamacracker. My point was - how can you know what's best for someone you don't know? The fact that you dismissed professional help ticked me off. Why not expand his options and let him choose?

Anyway, once again, I'm really sorry.

*sigh*

I don't feel well.

Oh, Rebecca, did you get my PM? Are you ignoring it?

Ack crap, I'm sorry. :( I'll PM you (I thought I had =X)

And no worries. Sometimes people get passionate about subjects like these.

[lorrytruck;]

I understand what you are going through. I think to say that someone, anyone, hasn't been through something of this sort would be impossible, as it seems to be quite big part of "living life". Be true to yourself. Oh cmon, I find it hard to believe that no one likes you and you don't have any friends at all! Expose yourself, join activities that enable you to meet new people even without much effort. If not, pm me. I can be your friend ..and shrink.


The thing is to learn how to stand up again, even if it may be hard. You can't let what someone said ruin your life forever, I've learned it the hard way. Maybe you just haven't met the right person to make you feel comfortable yet, maybe it's every else, not you

[gr00vyswordsman]

Meditation is actually a good choice. I sympathize with you on social anxiety. It was my major problem for a year or so, and still is a little. Meditation is actually what helped me, so TamaCracker is giving u good alternative to taking prescribed pills.

Meditation will balance the imbalaned energy inside of you. For me, more of my days are brighter now. Give it a shot I commend you on that!

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

fact is, people are really judgmental; if they don't like who you are, you're not going to get along with them. now days, people think that if they talk to someone one time, they'll be there for them through everything, but really, if you don't take the time to know someone, they never are there; they never hang out, don't care if you call, etc. be open and be yourself, it'll help attract people to you. act as if you aren't nervous in front of anyone and people will take notice. small talk can actually lead a long way, too.

[illriginal]

I honestly apologize Tamacracker. My point was - how can you know what's best for someone you don't know? The fact that you dismissed professional help ticked me off. Why not expand his options and let him choose?

Anyway, once again, I'm really sorry.

That's fine Flair, the thing is, I went through depression in both highschool and beginning of college. It wasn't about family problems or social problems nor feeling lonely or anything alike. It was school... I take education seriously, so when I would see a B get close to a C+, I get all whacked out and can't concentrate cuz I'm always thinking of my future.

Anyways in highschool, I had a friend who was Hindu and she knew I wasn't doing so well. I started to keep to myself more and stay away from the social gatherings. After explaining to her my problem, she simply said, "oh that's easy, try meditation." Then she joked saying, "why do you think Asians never crack in school? We meditate and relax ourselves then come back to reality."

Anyways, ever since my junior year of school, I've meditated and I've never been stressed out, nervous, fearful, depressed etc... things are great.

So meditation worked for me and I'm only passing along the advice. I don't think prescription drugs should be taken for mental health. That's just a cover up a form of numbing up the psychological issues, once you're off of them, you 're back to square one again.

[kimmytree]

You know that's something I've been told, that I have social anxiety. But I'm just quiet and observant, most of the time I only speak when spoken to. And sometimes I just don't waste a breath on people. I realize they gotta meet eye to eye for me to even bother socializing with them.

Then maybe you're just introverted then? I'm that way too, but I actually fear social situations... and sometimes I end up having panic attacks. I get stressed out from just going to Walmart. And you know how you always have to cut down an aisle to get to the back row in a grocery store? I always have to search for an empty aisle to go down... even if that means having to go to the farthest one away. And when I'm at school, I have a hard time raising my hand to ask a question... even just asking for an answer to be repeated. Even just planning on raising my hand makes my heart race. And then when I'm called upon, I end up talking twice as fast as I should, and I sometimes end up stuttering. And then alot of times afterwards... for anywhere from just a minute or two to ten minutes I'll tremble. Like my legs will literally shake. And then my heart will continue to race... so bad that I cant focus on what I'm doing. So I guess that's a panic attack. But in order to have social anxiety you have to fear situations, and most people have panic attacks from them. Some people's problems range from not being able to speak in front of alot of people, to not being able to eat in front of people and use public restrooms.

I'm not saying you're concited or anything, but you seem to be picky on who you find worthy of being friends or socializing with. In the back of my mind I'm the exact same way. You seem really intelligent... people with very high IQ's have a hard time lowering themselves to someone elses level. So maybe that's it. Haha this is totally random, but do you have a high IQ?

[illriginal]

I'm not saying you're concited or anything, but you seem to be picky on who you find worthy of being friends or socializing with. In the back of my mind I'm the exact same way. You seem really intelligent... people with very high IQ's have a hard time lowering themselves to someone elses level. So maybe that's it. Haha this is totally random, but do you have a high IQ?

152 back in highschool. But IQ tests aren't all that good to depend on, in my opinion at least.

Oh and I'm very picky with people... I have very high and weird standards about everything.

[tr1pp1n]

no wonder you have no friends, beggars can't be choosers.

[IfICouldEscape]

no wonder you have no friends, beggars can't be choosers.

So you don't choose your friends. Meaning anyone is a friend to you, meaning you have no morals as to what a friend is to you? That's the thing you see you can either get along with anyone, where you jump on the bandwagon and become a follower for the rest of your life or you can find your own way in life and distinguish between between people you like and people you don't. I take it you're a follower.

[Kontroll]

Basically got no friends, no girlfriend, the one I want I can't have, I can't get over, someone spread a rumour about me, not true, feel like shit, I bottle it in my room every day, noone I feel like I want to turn to despite my parents being fine and that, don't socialise, depressed.

How do people make friends lol? All the people at my school I just don't like, or they don't like me, I have developed social anxiety, basically I fear talking to people now, never know what to say, feel as if I'm being judged, I can't break the ice, it takes me agessssssssss to get to know someone properly to the point where when I walk by them I can stop and talk and not just walk by either ignoring them or just nodding my head. I haven't been able to get to that point apart from 1 person who I hold to my heart as a real close friend. I never know how to take a friendship further after the first meeting or two, with me it just seems like they become nodding pals after a while and I'm just thinking what am I doing wrong excluding the rumour but in different environments. I start to think I'm just such a boring person when they meet me. I find that there's nothing for me to see someone for after the first meeting point or 2/3 etc. I feel like a stranger to them and don't seem to build and connections. Sometimes I just talk to them for the sake of not looking like a loner but really I'm just bored of them and vice versa most likely. I'm starting to feel anxiety when I talk to people I hardly ever do or when meeting people for the first time. That way I find it more comfortable to just avoid talking to people all together, I even avoid talking to anyone really, at least I feel calmer. I seriously don't know what to say to break the ice, it really affects me. Any suggestions, thanks in advance.

Yo, you're just making it worse for yourself. You got no friends cause you don't like any one. Its not their fault. Secondly, I don't have a girlfriend. I haven't had one since last year. Boo f**king who. Stop bitchin'. It's not the end of the world. Yo, why don't you try being a celebrity. They get rumors spread around about them all the time. Deal with it. It's life. It's tough. You want to know why you feel like shit? Because you're selfish and only think about your problems. Seriously, go help some people out. Get your mind of yourself. It helps. And you have a very bad attitude. Be optimistic for once. Life's not all that bad, when you see things in a good light. Damn.

Yo, after reading what you wrote, I felt like some one was talking about me. Seriously. I'm exactly the same way. To the tee. Dude, you just gotta face your fears. Also, I do this alot too and I'm sure you do as well. Stop over analyzing things. Haha. But seriously. Whatever your head tells you to do, don't do it. Or don't listen. It's never as worse as it really is. So, do something about it.

If you want to talk about it later, just holla back at me. Peace.

[IfICouldEscape]

Mate what you are saying is true partially, but this is a small piece of the jigsaw, if you knew what was on the radar in the bigger picture you would understand. Can I also ask because I am depressed, is that a possible factor for me not liking people do you think? Just wondering. I would disagree with you calling me selfish, I am not that.

[Pumpx3itup]

Joining a sports team is a very good idea.
It's a pretty easy way to make friends. And things do get better I've been through a lot not the same as you but the rumors are there and stay away from the people who start them because they are just two faced b*tchs but if you ever want someone to talk to about anything just let me know because I found talking to someone you don't know at all is really helpful because they don't know anything thats happening at the school unless you tell them.♥

[Pumpx3itup]

152 back in highschool. But IQ tests aren't all that good to depend on, in my opinion at least.

Oh and I'm very picky with people... I have very high and weird standards about everything.

My IQ test scred me up
everyone started putting
more pressure on me because
My grades werent with my IQ
and it caused me to get stressed,
Depressed and cut.

[tr1pp1n]

So you don't choose your friends. Meaning anyone is a friend to you, meaning you have no morals as to what a friend is to you? That's the thing you see you can either get along with anyone, where you jump on the bandwagon and become a follower for the rest of your life or you can find your own way in life and distinguish between between people you like and people you don't. I take it you're a follower.

You're a f**kin pathetic loser who is crying about some petty problem here. If you seriously want friends so badly get off the computer and join some clubs. Right now you're pretending like you actually are someone who is normal but i highly doubt that. HAHA THATS WHY YOU DONT HAVE FRIENDS LOSER

"I like normal people _smile.gif I like people that are sporty, if into football the better, good fun and is up for anything really, and someone who takes pride in what they look like."

Its too bad they don't like you. Quit whining and go out and try to take some risks.

Hey seriously tho go see a shrink, you're f**kin pathetic

[illriginal]

no wonder you have no friends, beggars can't be choosers.

No wonder I have no friends? I hope you're either being sarcastic or speaking to someone else.

LOL You lil kids make me feel like a parent already.

You're a f**kin pathetic loser who is crying about some petty problem here. If you seriously want friends so badly get off the computer and join some clubs. Right now you're pretending like you actually are someone who is normal but i highly doubt that. HAHA THATS WHY YOU DONT HAVE FRIENDS LOSER

"I like normal people _smile.gif I like people that are sporty, if into football the better, good fun and is up for anything really, and someone who takes pride in what they look like."

Its too bad they don't like you. Quit whining and go out and try to take some risks.

Hey seriously tho go see a shrink, you're f**kin pathetic

I hope all your boyfriends cheat on you with your female friends. And hopefully sometime when you're in highschool, someone preferably your best friend exploits you for the bitch you really are in front of the whole cafeteria. Your parents should be ashamed of you, pathetic lil child.

Also I would like a moderator to take a look at this user's profile, under location this user has a hatred for Blacks and homosexuals. Have this user change it please. Or just simply ban this user, preferably IP ban.

By the way, reported.

[tr1pp1n]

um tama i'm not talking to you man LOL

[MeanBastard]

OP, this is for you. Major inspiration

[*Mercy*]

Please cut the name calling out.
This is a serious disscussion.

[*SinfullySweet*]

Yeah. Its already been said, but most likely, the best way to meet new people is being spontaneous, and doing things you wouldn't naturally do. And yes, its hard to make friends in high school, and even middle school. Its easier to make new friends when you're still a child. When you're a child, you can just go to the play ground, and randomly play around with anyone. But when you get older, you get used to your own group of friends, and if you would try approaching a group of people, they would think you were odd. I really think one of the best ways to break the ice is just be yourself. Why would you want friends that treat you nice for someone you're not? change your outlook on life. Things will get better.

[kimmytree]

OP, this is for you. Major inspiration

That's totally unnecessary.

[IfICouldEscape]

Several people have said to change my outlook on life. In what way? Give me a bit of leeway because I can't think of how at the minute, I'm just wrapped in confusion.

[queen]

^ what do you love to do? find that, and you'll find people to do whatever it is with.

[*steve330*]

Several people have said to change my outlook on life. In what way? Give me a bit of leeway because I can't think of how at the minute, I'm just wrapped in confusion.

Stop looking at all the negative and focus on the positive. If there isn't any positive that you can see, then make a decision to go and make something of yourself and go do something you enjoy doing. If you do that, then you can look at your decision to go do something as a positive part of your life and then you can focus on that, increasing your overall happiness.

[AimeeLynn]

Gah. Eh. this is funny. When I was neww here in cB I posted kinda the same thing.

Well my adivce to you is to stop pondering the negatives in your life. Think about all the good things. It helped me.
Get a hobby such as a sport or drawing.<-- Make sure the drawing is not exactly "scary" images. Because it will just make you depressed more. If you know what I mean.
Cutting is not the answer. It doesn't even help and it just hurts phyisically and not only mentally.
I'm religious so I believe pray helps or just as the said meditate in a calm envoriment like a park.

Be friendly. Such as like go over to someone that seems alone too. Talk small talk and see if you guys agree with each other and have a connection.

Pm since you know this happens to me and I know what you are going though. It seems like the end but you know it's the beginning of the end.

Alot of people feel the same way you feel. It just seems your the only one.
Don't make it seem your the only one.

[MeanBastard]

Several people have said to change my outlook on life. In what way? Give me a bit of leeway because I can't think of how at the minute, I'm just wrapped in confusion.

Stop pitying yourself. That's all there is to it.

[JakeTheSnake]

heh, i know how you feel "/

[Beunique]

what i do is that i laugh a lot. i mean dont scare people and just laugh out loud when no one is talking but do it in the friendly way.. ur sure to have friends and girls :)

just dont do anything rash. this period in your life will soon be over and never know what time brings

[demolished]

I never said those were the ONLY life problems. I'm only answering to the specific ones you mentioned. I'm tryin to help you out a bit, I hate emos and would help anyone that's heading into that direction. Not that I'm sayin you are... but you do kinda seem emo.

As for your personal problems, you need to figure them out and tackle them. Don't depend on others to help you with your personal psychological problems such as depression.

Sorry I couldn't help you out, good luck with your mild problem.

You dont need to point out your dislike. The whole point is to help him. I know you have the right to expressed yourself, but it's nice to be a bit more consideration, you know? You could had say something plain and simple, not be descriptive about people's problem such as ... " good luck with your mild problem"

You dont know his boat as a 17 years old! He's almost done with high school. He needs help, dont flip him off.

^ Pretty much the best advice.

Get into the gym, you'll make friends in there. Most of the time athletic in some sort of sport. And most likely they won't be a druggy :P

Plus you're depressed? Kid (no offense) but uh.. there's children even younger than you, who get molested, have no parents, have diseases, have no home, are missing limbs, eat bugs instead of a juicy hot dog or burger or steak, that don't own clothes, hell that don't even have a roof over their heads etc...

You've gotta keep that in mind. You don't have much to be depressed about. Education should come before relationships, it keeps your mind healthy and keeps your priorities straight.

Oh wow. That was so uncalled for. You dont need to compare his depression with someone else.

What do you know about his situation? Understand that he's depressed and had been diffculty socializing for 17 years. It's really the time to get help. What do you expect? You think that's not "much to be depressed about"? Again, it's been 17 years. It's important to built a solid social foundation. At this age, he's late. And .... you think that's not "much to be depressed about ... ". When is the time he'll become social envolved ... when it's "not much to be depressed about".

Everyone is always striving to be better, not to be compared.

And about women? Guy, there's millions of women around the world. A thousand of them just in a square mile radius. Finding a women isn't hard. You're only 17 years old, I'm sure by the time you're 20 (assuming you won't destroy your image with the emo or even grunge look) you'll have your 5 girlfriend +/-.

You dont think he knows that? Of course finding a women may not be hard for you. You know it takes a good stable social foundation to actually start a relationship.
And, what the heck are you trying to tell him about when he's twenty, becoming emo, and have 5 girlfriends. that is so unnesscery to say that. What's your point?

Your wanting of a friend, well that's different, and understandable, because people like to have fun and socialize, which is great. In highschool, I had many many many friends, most of which just used people, and were back stabbers/two faced. After highschool, I sort of lost interest in friends and got more into reading, spirituality, self improvement.

That's a nice experience to share, but keep in mind that he doesnt have a stable social foudation. He havent experienecd anything like you did back in high school. Basically, he's not an experieced social person.

Do you know people generally find true and pure friends after college?

School, sports, group activities have always been the best source to find friends. And it's not about goin up to some one and sayin, hey? will you be my friend? It's not like that.

that's a very good valid point.

It's relations. If someone has the same interests in music, shows, sports, women, cars, anything... anything at all. All it takes is an agreement of any sort and start things off. Then you can go from there askin them some other question within that same relation and see what else they might come up with that you would agree with and switch topics from there and so on. Get to know them, get to know their other interests. This shows interests of friendship. It's not hard to make friends trust me.

"it's not hard to make friends". i'm not sure about his case considering the fact that you have better social abilties, and you're able to attract more friends.

[illriginal]

Several people have said to change my outlook on life. In what way? Give me a bit of leeway because I can't think of how at the minute, I'm just wrapped in confusion.

Think positively. If you cut your finger, be happy your finger wasn't cut off. If you get a bad grade on your home work... be happy it's not on your report card. Just think positively. You've gotta learn how to control your brain, not let your brain control you. The human mind is VERY powerful.

You dont need to point out your dislike. The whole point is to help him. I know you have the right to expressed yourself, but it's nice to be a bit more consideration, you know? You could had say something plain and simple, not be descriptive about people's problem such as ... " good luck with your mild problem"

You dont know his boat as a 17 years old! He's almost done with high school. He needs help, dont flip him off.
Oh wow. That was so uncalled for. You dont need to compare his depression with someone else.

What do you know about his situation? Understand that he's depressed and had been diffculty socializing for 17 years. It's really the time to get help. What do you expect? You think that's not "much to be depressed about"? Again, it's been 17 years. It's important to built a solid social foundation. At this age, he's late. And .... you think that's not "much to be depressed about ... ". When is the time he'll become social envolved ... when it's "not much to be depressed about".

Everyone is always striving to be better, not to be compared.




You dont think he knows that? Of course finding a women may not be hard for you. You know it takes a good stable social foundation to actually start a relationship.
And, what the heck are you trying to tell him about when he's twenty, becoming emo, and have 5 girlfriends. that is so unnesscery to say that. What's your point?


That's a nice experience to share, but keep in mind that he doesnt have a stable social foudation. He havent experienecd anything like you did back in high school. Basically, he's not an experieced social person.

Do you know people generally find true and pure friends after college?




that's a very good valid point.
"it's not hard to make friends". i'm not sure about his case considering the fact that you have better social abilties, and you're able to attract more friends.

Good God, you can't be serious... I'm not even going to bother with this. He's a young man who needs to have more control on his mind and think about all the other millions of people in the world who are much more unfortunate than someone who's depressed.

I guess I'm only using my experience of how I fixed my situation... I just realized my mind was racing at 29384002 miles a minute and I needed to get a grip on my mind and change my mind state. Also I realized that people all over the world are worst off than me.

I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna answer all your questions, that would just be foolish of me.

[demolished]

Good God, you can't be serious... I'm not even going to bother with this. He's a young man who needs to have more control on his mind and think about all the other millions of people in the world who are much more unfortunate than someone who's depressed.

He only wanted an advices, not to be compare. he was describing himself so people can have a better idea of him. What part that you dont understand? it's about him, not other people. why are you so off topic!? You think talking about people's unfortunate is going to help him?

Yes, he is a young man. He needs to have more control. duh. i know that.
He needs help. You think human are easily capable of complete independence?

I guess I'm only using my experience of how I fixed my situation... I just realized my mind was racing at 29384002 miles a minute and I needed to get a grip on my mind and change my mind state. Also I realized that people all over the world are worst off than me.

What the heck are you talking about?

I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna answer all your questions, that would just be foolish of me.

Excuse me. You're already foolish for not stating any rational statements. You're more foolish if you're not going to talk it out.

Wow. You do act like an expert ... AGAIN. What are you, world's best physiologist?

Dude, you're good at acting, not providing proper reasoning.

[*Sandraaa*]

^

[S-Majere]

That has to be one of THE biggest emo rants I have ever eyeballed.

Not to sound overtly uncaring but...how about getting off CB and heading down town? Getting out and about - the best cure for any wound is salt. Tears, sweat or the sea.

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

[Mini]

Yeah, I agree.

I tend not to waste my time on these posts.

But, seriously, get some professional help.

That's the best advice I can give you.


People in CB are NOT TRAINED to help you. I'm sorry, but you just have to face that fact.


And some of us here don't really care, to be honest, because we don't know you.


Also, a lot of the people here are like...14 and don't even know what the hell they're talking about.

[S-Majere]

I'm 19 soon and still don't know what I'm talking about XD

Just enjoying being followed by Mini here.

...

Seriously, there's something about your arguments that makes me want to sit here all day and type furiously before another poster can interrupt.

[Mini]

I'm 19 soon and still don't know what I'm talking about XD

Just enjoying being followed by Mini here.

...

Seriously, there's something about your arguments that makes me want to sit here all day and type furiously before another poster can interrupt.

Haha, you love me. Just admit it!




So like....original poster, PLEASE GET PROFESSIONAL HELP!

PLEASE, for yourself and the people who care about you (i.e. your parents.)



And if you kill yourself, then well, that's your decision and no one can stop you.

[S-Majere]

/admits the love and breaks down into a wailing ball of self-pity.

...no offense to the original poster.

But yes. Get help you must.

[IfICouldEscape]

Hmm I'm a bit confused lol. It's almost like my problems THAT I HAVE STATED are almost deemed to be unworthy of a post, that like someone mentioned people don't really care, not that I'm offended but it's like what's the overall existence of this forum then!!?? It just came across a bit strange.

I just want to say I'm not near killing myself, it was slightly humourous in a non funny way if that makes sense. One thing that does seem to crop up is almost the attitude of if you're depressed your an EMO. Get real, how sad are you lot if you start, well I need not say more just silly.

The reason why I feel sorry for myself, is because I am stuck in a rut that I cannot explain anywhere else but PM. Thanks for the comments though, gives me some food for thought.

[illriginal]

What the heck are you talking about?

Exactly, moron.

That's for the acting comment.

Try to keep your assumptions of me to yourself... trying to figure me out will only piss me off.

[AimeeLynn]

This is one of the most serious topics I've come across on cB in a long time, and some people are just shitting on it. This is total disrespect.

This guy is asking for advice the same way the other thousands of users have asked for advice in this forum.

That's what I thought. People you need to be careful on what your going to say. What you say has consequences.

Join a club, get a job. Volunteer. Help in the community. Are you religious? If so, then go to church or worship or whatever. Learn a craft or trade.

In my own personal opinion, volunteering and helping others keeps my mind off of things I don't want to think about, and at the same time cheers me up because I interact with people in a positive way.

Robbi is right. Getting a job or joining a club. There has to be at least a club that your good at. I have a lot of clubs such as art drama etc. You got to talent and try to develop it. Most likely someone would have the same likes as you.

[illriginal]

Tamacracker, please refrain from name calling in this thread and in other threads. Warnings will be given at appropriate times.

This goes to all users who have namecalled.

LOL

That's like a cop askin me to refrain from punchin someone after the cop witnessed the person punching me. I'm just not gonna listen. Eye for an eye, that's how I roll.

That's what I thought. People you need to be careful on what your going to say. What you say has consequences.

The problem is... this forum board isn't a place to ask for serious advice unless it's associated with photography, image editing, web development etc...

We have children in this forum as well as adults. No one here is a psychologist nor psychiatrist. We're both immature and mature, we make both serious posts and silly posts. We also have different lives, lifestyles, brought up differently, had different experiences etc... there's never gonna be a 100% agreement.

We mock and disrespect each other and not care about getting off topic when the thread goes to crap to begin with.

[S-Majere]

Too right.

/disconnects modem.

[AimeeLynn]

LOL

That's like a cop askin me to refrain from punchin someone after the cop witnessed the person punching me. I'm just not gonna listen. Eye for an eye, that's how I roll.
The problem is... this forum board isn't a place to ask for serious advice unless it's associated with photography, image editing, web development etc...

We have children in this forum as well as adults. No one here is a psychologist nor psychiatrist. We're both immature and mature, we make both serious posts and silly posts. We also have different lives, lifestyles, brought up differently, had different experiences etc... there's never gonna be a 100% agreement.

We mock and disrespect each other and not care about getting off topic when the thread goes to crap to begin with.

Eh. I would never say "Suck it up to someone" since you really don't know what life they are actually living in. What you say has consequences. Plus it could be someone look for real advice since no one probably listens. From experience, I know what happens. Please be kind.

[illriginal]

Eh. I would never say "Suck it up to someone" since you really don't know what life they are actually living in. What you say has consequences. Plus it could be someone look for real advice since no one probably listens. From experience, I know what happens. Please be kind.

I was being kind to the OP... I'm just not gonna be sympathetic. Especially after this post:

Who said these are my only life problems? I have other very serious ones to contend with as well but can't discuss. What I've posted isn't a main cause for depression, it just topped up something else and kind of becomes one.

Being kind is good, being sympathetic is useless.

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

Exactly, moron.

That's for the acting comment.

Try to keep your assumptions of me to yourself... trying to figure me out will only piss me off.

why don't you just report him? you seem to be pretty good at it.

[illriginal]

why don't you just report him? you seem to be pretty good at it.

Yep I'm pretty good at it as much as anyone else who's capable of clickin, "report".

And from what I can tell, seems like I'm the most hated on this forum, so me reporting seems useless

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

no, it's a low blow. don't claim you are all man and can back up your battles, if you have to be a pussy about it and have a mod intervention.

[S-Majere]

Alright guys, enough is enough.

Everyone's had their say and the OP has got some food for thought.

[illriginal]

no, it's a low blow. don't claim you are all man and can back up your battles, if you have to be a pussy about it and have a mod intervention.

Explain to me how I can back it up when majority of the forum dislikes me and are just waiting for me to slip up just to give me verbal warnings

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

well, i guess you don't have to back up anything, but you could at least take it like the man you claim you are.

[IfICouldEscape]

I was being kind to the OP... I'm just not gonna be sympathetic. Especially after this post:
Being kind is good, being sympathetic is useless.

Now you go from one extreme to the other, I said what I did in response to your aggressive comment explaining there was more to my life than just this to contend with, however you then thought I was trying to get a sympathy vote. What am I supposed to do??!!

[illriginal]

Now you go from one extreme to the other, I said what I did in response to your aggressive comment explaining there was more to my life than just this to contend with, however you then thought I was trying to get a sympathy vote. What am I supposed to do??!!

I dunno what you're supposed to do. I only know as much as you told me. I would recommend meditation to ease your emotions and mind.. but people here think I'm just a know it all. That's my only recommendation, there's many other options that people here have listed.

In my opinion I say stay the heck away from psycho-tropic drugs... you don't want to depend on pills like you would with water and food.

[*steve330*]

Explain to me how I can back it up when majority of the forum dislikes me and are just waiting for me to slip up just to give me verbal warnings

Does it really bother you? If so it's not too hard to say a few kind words and not start fighting back until someone attacks you *shrug*.

As to the OP, being sympathetic on the internet is one of the easiest things there are, and it really doesn't take much to type a few sentences of advice you might find helpful to him that would apply to a majority of the population (not just you, assuming you have your own ways that don't always work for people). You could put in what you would recommend for any ordinary person, then you could add your two cents when it comes to you and work on the tone so it doesn't sound so harsh.

It's not that the forum hates you(maybe), but a good number of your posts come out as aggressive and arrogant, and that makes your ideas hard to approach, as well as you. Also, people are way more willing to listen to your ideas (the ones that aren't exactly mainstream) if you don't bite back at them because they disagree with you. Also, if you don't want verbal warnings for the stuff you say, you probably shouldn't report people so much for petty things.


Anyways, OP, bout all I can say is keep on keepin on and try to ignore belligerent posts as those ideas are easily misinterpreted and can instantly have a negative connotation which could immediately destroy any merit of good advice *shrug*

[illriginal]

Also, if you don't want verbal warnings for the stuff you say, you probably shouldn't report people so much for petty things.

Is that the policy here? If you snitch you get warned for aggressive behavior? I'll keep that in mind, people, don't snitch, because you'll easily get warned by the moderators. It reminds me of, "live by the code of the streets, die by the code of the streets".

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

there is no misconduct in reporting, but crying about every little thing that is said to you and taking in personally gets old. you are not solely warned (if you even have been) because you are using the report button, it's the fuel you add to the fire.

let things go and stop taking things so personally. the report button isn't to get your way everytime, but rather something that should be used to report something against the community guidelines. given, most of the stuff you report probably has cause to it, it's annoying seeing someone talking about how we should be more mature, but yet in return, you're a hypocrit and need intervention.

loosen up...maybe then we'll get off your back.

side note: i got a pretty good kick out of that p/m you sent me. keep up the good work and the macho attitude.

[illriginal]

side note: i got a pretty good kick out of that p/m you sent me. keep up the good work and the macho attitude.

Don't worry, I will

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

Don't worry, I will

good deal. lets threaten people over the internet.

[*steve330*]

Is that the policy here? If you snitch you get warned for aggressive behavior? I'll keep that in mind, people, don't snitch, because you'll easily get warned by the moderators. It reminds me of, "live by the code of the streets, die by the code of the streets".

Or don't snitch over insignificant things like someone's being mean to you, when you're returning it with the same intensity. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Or maybe the silver rule, what goes around comes around. Point being, reporting for minor things other than to get that person a reprimand, or attempt that, when they were only returning the favor is kinda lame :\

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

actually, the p/m conversation lasted with him pretty much saying he hated me and then i replied and that was the end.

[demolished]

Exactly, moron.

That's for the acting comment.

Try to keep your assumptions of me to yourself... trying to figure me out will only piss me off.

Moron, you were off topic. You didn't have to bough up that stupid shit about your mental and racing issue.

Make what assumption? You tell me, mother.

LOL

That's like a cop askin me to refrain from punchin someone after the cop witnessed the person punching me. I'm just not gonna listen. Eye for an eye, that's how I roll.

You roll like a total pathetic idiot, honestly.

Forums rules are meant to be followed so we don't have any major chaos otherwise we have barbarians that needs to be banned.

Punching is a physical violence. It's that big of a deal. It's against the law. You can either follow the law or go to hell in prison. It's so funny that you're comparing it to a forum bashing. You can always get away from bashing.

The problem is... this forum board isn't a place to ask for serious advice unless it's associated with photography, image editing, web development etc...

We have children in this forum as well as adults. No one here is a psychologist nor psychiatrist. We're both immature and mature, we make both serious posts and silly posts. We also have different lives, lifestyles, brought up differently, had different experiences etc... there's never gonna be a 100% agreement.

We mock and disrespect each other and not care about getting off topic when the thread goes to crap to begin with.

This is what you called a "relationship" forum. You know it quite well. People post in relationship to get some quality information and help. If you can't help or promote in relationship forum, don't even think about posting it. It's not for you. If you know you're providing negativity, don't bother, you wiseass.

Heck, you can post whatever you want ... but you're likely to be watched by moderator for your ridiculous behavior. Again, it's nice to be considered and understanding.

Especially this 17 years old male clearly didn't come here to be humiliated and attacked by you. You clearly irritated and disappointed him, inconsiderate man.

Yep I'm pretty good at it as much as anyone else who's capable of clickin, "report".

And from what I can tell, seems like I'm the most hated on this forum, so me reporting seems useless

You're not good as anyone. You're special for bring up your so-called intelligent issues, world famous physiologist. I'm sure you can bring up a pretty good point, Albert Einstein.

Old man, believe me. Have you been here long enough to exaggerate that you're the most hated, silly man?

[lina213]

U seem like a nice guy..im sure a lot of people would want to be ur friend...
u just have 2 be confident...if people see that ur scared...they wont try to be ur friend...
make a convo while ur in the lunch line with the person in front of u...
or try helping people out...joining clubs or sport teams...
be active...and always believe that there is a way =)

[*Sandraaa*]

Steve and co, TAMACRACKER isn't worth it. He's just a depressed little kid who takes joy in bringing people down with his witty comments.

If you've got nothing polite to say, how about shutting up? That'd do it.

[illriginal]

ROFLMAO

Damn you people are soo emotional, good God, go outside of your homes and experience reality for once.

lol @ depression

I'm not weak, sorry.

And Fist, I didn't waste my time reading your post, I saw that you quoted it and I cracked a smile for wasting your time with that long ass (most likely sympathetic dick riding) post.

[S-Majere]

Tamacracker, for Christsake - get some salsa for that chip on your shoulder and shut the hell up.

Mods close this.

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

^
i don't believe you started this thread, correct?

[S-Majere]

^ Correct, but the poor sod that did is probably regretting it!

[*steve330*]

^well he can request it closed if he wants it closed.

[S-Majere]

^ May as well continue your bickering then. Continue people.

[*shotgunFUNERAL*]

thank you for your approval.

[*Sandraaa*]

[demolished]

ROFLMAO

Damn you people are soo emotional, good God, go outside of your homes and experience reality for once.

lol @ depression

I'm not weak, sorry.

And Fist, I didn't waste my time reading your post, I saw that you quoted it and I cracked a smile for wasting your time with that long ass (most likely sympathetic dick riding) post.

omfg. i'm sooo sad.
i care less if i wrote write too much for you to read, little boy. I type long to exercise my mind, basic logic, and prepared myself for debate team. It's been 2 years that my mind was lenient and rusty. Thank you.

[illriginal]

omfg. i'm sooo sad.
i care less if i wrote write too much for you to read, little boy. I type long to exercise my mind, basic logic, and prepared myself for debate team. It's been 2 years that my mind was lenient and rusty. Thank you.

Exercise that mind!!! Woot

[demolished]

You read, wiseass! woot. short posts and big words, yo.
Wow, you did exactly what i expected you to do.

You're predictable. gg.