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The United Earth of the Solar System
Simba
post Apr 29 2007, 12:01 AM
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End nationalism. Unify the world. Establish a single government. All the people sharing all of the world. Eliminate foreign competition, immigration, tax havens and comparative wealth. That's four birds with one rock.

"Even a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."

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post Apr 29 2007, 12:21 AM
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How about no?
 
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post Apr 29 2007, 12:30 AM
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How about why not?
 
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post Apr 29 2007, 07:24 AM
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Who do you think you are, Releena Peacecraft?
 
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post Apr 29 2007, 11:51 AM
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if you eliminated those, how would people find homes and freedom. it's just selfishness.
 
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post Apr 29 2007, 12:03 PM
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I don't really follow the one government plan too much, but since no one is really for it, let's go.

QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 29 2007, 12:51 PM) *
if you eliminated those, how would people find homes and freedom. it's just selfishness.
How, at all, would world government eliminate homes and freedom? In fact, wouldn't it create more homes? You wouldn't have to worry about "crossing the border illegally" for a better home or anything. All of the world is shared.

An efficient world government would mean freedom for everyone. Not just America.
 
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post Apr 29 2007, 12:59 PM
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^ Well, yes, an efficient government could lead to that. Which is mooted by the fact that an efficient governement at that level is a fanatasy. It is simpy too big in scope.

Central government for al affairs doesn't even work in the US, hence the need for Federalism, or even in the UK, which is yet smaller, hence the devolved bodies.
 
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post Apr 29 2007, 01:20 PM
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So, people fail.
 
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post May 1 2007, 10:41 PM
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Oh no, smells like Communism.
 
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post May 1 2007, 11:00 PM
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Again with the pointless threads.

You lose diversity and culture once you merge nations together.


Stop making these stupid threads.
 
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post May 2 2007, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(onewaysalcha @ May 1 2007, 11:41 PM) *
Oh no, smells like Communism.
Not exactly. Who said anything about absolute equality?

QUOTE(Podomaht @ May 2 2007, 12:00 AM) *
You lose diversity and culture once you merge nations together.
It can't be like a tossed salad, something like America is right now?

QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Apr 29 2007, 1:59 PM) *
^ Well, yes, an efficient government could lead to that. Which is mooted by the fact that an efficient governement at that level is a fanatasy. It is simpy too big in scope.

Central government for al affairs doesn't even work in the US, hence the need for Federalism, or even in the UK, which is yet smaller, hence the devolved bodies.
Would it be agreeable to say that a world government would be desirable, but simply improbable for us to accomplish?
 
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post May 2 2007, 04:45 PM
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If that hypothetical Earth government turned out to be a tyrannical regime, what chances would the populace under control have to overthrow it? Besides not a damned single one, that is.

Also, such a government's reaction time to sudden eventualities would be too slow to actually be effective. Centralized governments traditionally do have this inconvenience when it comes to put the state machinery in motion. Ask the Russians, for example.

It's unclear as to how would social and economic barriers disappear, too. It's not like they will fade away just because if the current dominant economy model is meant to be kept.
 
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post May 2 2007, 04:49 PM
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Makes sense.
 
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post May 2 2007, 05:06 PM
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Such a large area could not possibly come under a central government. The government must be split into separate branches, which are destined to eventually separate from the main branch. Additionally, there is too much of a culture barrier to evenly rule. What would Eastern cultures feel about rulers from the West?

Can you say Soviet Union? A central government over the entire world can't possibly address all aspects of it at once. It would take decades, or hundreds of years to end one distribution cycle.

It can't possibly work.
 
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post May 2 2007, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 28 2007, 10:01 PM) *
All the people sharing all of the world.

Absolue equality.
 
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post May 2 2007, 08:39 PM
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George Orwell - 1984


that topic title gave me a headache.
 
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post May 2 2007, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(onewaysalcha @ May 2 2007, 9:35 PM) *
Absolue equality.
I didn't say, "all of the people of the world having equal shares of all of the world." hehe.gif

Oh well. Not that it matters at this point.
 
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BUT GUYS IF WE UNITE THE WORLD, THEN THE SPACE COLONIES ARE JUST GOING TO GET ANGRY AND THEY'LL TRY TO DROP A COLONY ON US! AND WE DON'T HAVE A WING ZERO TO STOP THEM!
 
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post May 3 2007, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 3:45 AM) *
BUT GUYS IF WE UNITE THE WORLD, THEN THE SPACE COLONIES ARE JUST GOING TO GET ANGRY AND THEY'LL TRY TO DROP A COLONY ON US! AND WE DON'T HAVE A WING ZERO TO STOP THEM!


Never fear, Mystic is here. I'll blast them down with my super, turbo charged wing zero with glowing neon lights.

Seriously though, it's probably for the best that we don't have one ruling government. Too many cultures, backgrounds, etc. It wouldn't work and besides you may lose diversity.
 
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post May 3 2007, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 4:45 AM) *
BUT GUYS IF WE UNITE THE WORLD, THEN THE SPACE COLONIES ARE JUST GOING TO GET ANGRY AND THEY'LL TRY TO DROP A COLONY ON US! AND WE DON'T HAVE A WING ZERO TO STOP THEM!


VOLTRON DEFENDER OF THE UNIVERSE WILL PROTECT YOU IN THE NAME OF THE GALAXY ALLIANCE. KING ZARKON SHALL NEVER STEP FOOT ON THIS PLANET, I PROMISE.
 
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post May 3 2007, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ May 3 2007, 6:36 PM) *
VOLTRON DEFENDER OF THE UNIVERSE WILL PROTECT YOU IN THE NAME OF THE GALAXY ALLIANCE. KING ZARKON SHALL NEVER STEP FOOT ON THIS PLANET, I PROMISE.


And I'll form the head.
 
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