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[Simba]

Viva La Revolucion!

Kaycee (kayceeisms) has been demodded for reasons that will not be disclosed.

End of discussion.

Kaycee, arguably one of cB's most valuable contributors of her time, has been stripped of her position of People Staff. Why? We don't know, but that's what we're here for!

Since Kaycee's demotion, the administrators and head staff's only justification for firing her has been "because discussing it would tarnish her reputations further."

I can't really come out and say it, but Kaycee did something really stupid, and made a bunch of us really angry... I wouldn't want to further tarnish her reputation.

However, this cannot be a legitimate reason for not telling the reason for Kaycee's demotion to either the community or even fellow staff members.

Because they apparently don't give two dimes about Kaycee! Not even one!

You're right AC. I don't give two dimes about Kaycee. I don't even give ONE dime about her!

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IT CAN'T BE DICUSSED, SO SHHHHHHHH.....

Why so defensive, Ms. Kandi? Hiding something?

This is not the only situation where staff members behind the demodding of Kaycee have avoided the subject to be discussed.

BTW..this is a problem within the mods. You really don't need to be getting involved, we don't need any added drama.

This is not just a problem among the moderators; if we have some corrupted staff members (as well as loss of good moderators), it will inevitably affect the whole community. It's common sense. This just shows that they don't want anyone else getting involved who could possibly see that there's something wrong with the picture.

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Join the effort to persuade the admins and head staff to reveal the real reason why Kaycee was demoted!

Protest against Kaycee's demotion! If they won't listen to fellow staff members, surely they would yield if the community becomes involved as well. Sign here to add to the petition against Kaycee's demotion and make some noise!

1. ArjunaCapulong
2. Mulder
3. six
4. WHIMSICAL 0NE
5. Stefanny
6. xlinh
7. UHH
8. Monochrome.
9. a beautiful nothing
10. Funky Buddha
11. I Viddy Horrorshow
12. ItsSelvy
13. kimmytree
14. Spiritual Winged Aura

This post has been edited by Arjuna Capulong: Mar 31 2007, 03:41 PM

[*.fire*]

I bet she posted beastiality porn backstage.

[*digital.fragrance*]

Ugh. Seriously. This should be dropped.
I'm tired of putting up with your guys crap.

[Mulder]

well, you already know I'm for her, since I made the sig.

[*StanleyThePanda*]

This has gone far enough. Seriously, why cant you guys DROPPP ITTTT!?
If it can't be discussed with you, then GET OVER IT. Making pointless threads like this really isn't going to help the situation.

[minioligo]

If it's been dropped, there's no use speculating over it. They've already told the community their stand on the situation. There's no use for topics like these. You should know that. Let things be.

[*digital.fragrance*]

^ I totally agree. Unfortunately we have people taking it too far, and they don't know what's good for them, or the community.

^x2 No joke. It's like half the threads in the Lounge involve this.

[Simba]

Do you even care, Rachael?

You, yourself, were not even told a real reason as to why Kaycee was demodded.

If it's been dropped, there's no use speculating over it. They've already told the community their stand on the situation. There's no use for topics like these. You should know that. Let things be.

There's no use of letting it pass either. This is no ordinary situation; if there was nothing wrong with Kaycee's demotion, the other staff member's wouldn't be in such a rush to calm everyone down and continuously advise everyone to not get involved. In any other situation, would they have they acted like this?

This post has been edited by Arjuna Capulong: Mar 30 2007, 10:39 PM

[six]

i'd like to know too :)

[Stefanny]

^ Same, I'd like to hear what Kaycee has to say.


I do believe, however, that if the mods have come to this conclusion, then it must have been something really big. I support their decision, but I think that if it was one mistake, they should be lenient and give her a second chance.

[minioligo]

There's no use of letting it pass either. This is no ordinary situation; if there was nothing wrong with Kaycee's demotion, the other staff member's wouldn't be in such a rush to calm everyone down and continuously advise everyone to not get involved. In any other situation, would they have they acted like this?

It's a matter of keeping the community in check. Do they want to make things more hectic than this? Look at the way most of the staff members have reacted (anonymous shoutouts is a perfect example). If they reacted that badly, how do you think the community would?

[Mulder]

^then another mod will just reopen it

we're doing this because of kaycees unfair demotion, and because mona and keira seem to be trying to cover their asses and hide the reason why.

[Simba]

i bet a mods gonna close this btw...

Well, it's not like this is a pointless topic or spam or anything. If this absolutely had to go somewhere, it would be to Feedback. However, I'm sure this will do in The Lounge.

[*WHIMSICAL 0NE*]

Mhm... I bet you since their reason wasn't good they'll make something up

[*StanleyThePanda*]

I'm sure their reason was good, why the f*ck would they make something up? Seriously, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

[*WHIMSICAL 0NE*]

^ yay.

they'd probably make something up because the truth doesn't stand as a good enough reason to fire her, I wouldn't doubt it if they did. staff doesn't communicate... so hell if anyone knows the truth... why not make some sh*t up and claim it as the reason she was fired?

[*Monochrome.*]

Put me on here.

I belive personaly that anytime a staff member is removed from staff that the population of cb should know what happened.

She was on people staff.And this should have been disclosed to us people unless it was seriosuly that bad.

[Simba]

I also wanted to note James's efforts. He personally gave up his position as moderator to send a message to the admins and head staff on behalf of Kaycee.

James (I Viddy Horrorshow) has stepped down from his People Staff position.

James (I Viddy Horrorshow) has been removed from People Staff.

Who, by the way, did not at all respond well to his resignation.

Oh, be quiet. You're one to talk. As if you have any idea what you're talking about, as usual. Good-bye and have fun. :)

HAHAHA. Yet another person that doesn't know the story, but is getting mad. And now you're trying to get attention by stepping down? Like it has been said before..GOOD RIDDANCE.

Viva La Revolucion!

[minioligo]

And?

You would respond the same way if they stepped down.

[Simba]

hah mods are fired up and probably annoyed.
all the reason to tell us, huh?
wtf juna that burning picture scares me.
and how does that relate to anything =/

Self-sacrifice.

1963. Thich Quang Duc, the Buddhist priest in Southern Vietnam , burns himself to death protesting the government’s torture policy against priests. Thich Quang Dug never made a sound or moved while he was burning.

[moorepocket]

she got what she deserves. Enough said.

[Simba]

That's pretty much the first thing they said to us, Ryan.

[*StanleyThePanda*]

^.. And?
It's the truth.

[Simba]

How can you be so sure? Are the admins and head staff infallible these days?

The only real justification we're provided with for demodding Kaycee is the word of the admins and head staff. I mean, just be looking at her modding record she hasn't done anything malicious. In fact, she did a fabulous job a moderator.

I mean, there's absolutely no evidence provided against Kaycee.

[*Libertie*]

I mean, there's absolutely no evidence provided against Kaycee.

Correction, I have some pretty good evidence.

[krnxswat]

Juna -

I can partially understand why you're so infuriated with this whole ordeal, but this isn't the approrpiate way to deal with it. You should know better.

As you all know, I was one of the earliest staff members, and that's how it's been dealt. It's been going fine. I respect Mona and Mzkandi equally, and I'm sure they had their just reasons. Keep in mind, they can fire whoever they want. Afterall, they are the administrators.

Moreover, you, as a staff member, shouldn't be copying and pasting the quotes from the backstage in to the public. Shouldn't you know what goes in the backstage stays in the backstage?

[minioligo]

Why would they demod a people staffer with no evidence? That's ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as speculating that the admins and head staff 'made shit up'.

[Simba]

Correction, I have some pretty good evidence.

May we see please?

Moreover, you, as a staff member, shouldn't be copying and pasting the quotes from the backstage in to the public. Shouldn't you know what goes in the backstage stays in the backstage?

I haven't quoted anything from Backstage...

[michellerrific]

I understand the moderator's decisions to demote Kaycee, and that this is under their power, but I also feel that at least they should provide us with some reason of why she was demoted, rather than something silly like saying that "she got what she deserved" or something of the like. I don't think this should be some little secret kept backstage - people deserve to know at least a general idea of what happened. Obviously, not everyone is happy with her demotion and they have no idea why. You can't just discard something without providing a reason.

[*Libertie*]

If Kaycee wanted the public to know, she'd have told you already, but since it's apparent that she doesn't, I'll keep that secret for now.

[*salcha4u*]

I'm sure the head staff and admins are modded for a reason, you guys.
Anyway, it's not like Kaycee can't contribute anymore...it's only a title member. And an excuse to warn me to 80% >:O jaykay.

[*Girthy*]

If Kaycee wanted the public to know, she'd have told you already, but since it's apparent that she doesn't, I'll keep that secret for now.

[Simba]

Just wait for what she has to say here tomorrow.

[clarity]

^ Same, I'd like to hear what Kaycee has to say.
I do believe, however, that if the mods have come to this conclusion, then it must have been something really big. I support their decision, but I think that if it was one mistake, they should be lenient and give her a second chance.

Actually Stephanie, we weren't told the real reason.

You, yourself, were not even told a real reason as to why Kaycee was demodded.

none of us were.

which is really unfair in my opinion.

the hell, i support kaycee!

[HongKongDong]

Kaycee kaycee kaycee! I'm somewhat interested in this whole ordeal. Sorry mods, i'm with the latter on this one. Gotta see something here

For now we should just wait until Kaycee comes back on to say something though.

[babbbyycakes]

Viva La Revolucion!

Kaycee, arguably one of cB's most valuable contributors of her time, has been stripped of her position of People Staff. Why? We don't know, but that's what we're here for!

Since Kaycee's demotion, the administrators and head staff's only justification for firing her has been "because discussing it would tarnish her reputations further."However, this cannot be a legitimate reason for not telling the reason for Kaycee's demotion to either the community or even fellow staff members.

Because they apparently don't give two dimes about Kaycee! Not even one!
--
Why so defensive, Ms. Kandi? Hiding something?

This is not the only situation where staff members behind the demodding of Kaycee have avoided the subject to be discussed.This is not just a problem among the moderators; if we have some corrupted staff members (as well as loss of good moderators), it will inevitably affect the whole community. It's common sense. This just shows that they don't want anyone else getting involved who could possibly see that there's something wrong with the picture.

--

Join the effort to persuade the admins and head staff to reveal the real reason why Kaycee was demoted!

Protest against Kaycee's demotion! If they won't listen to fellow staff members, surely they would yield if the community becomes involved as well. Sign here to add to the petition against Kaycee's demotion and make some noise!

1. ArjunaCapulong
2. Mulder
3. six
4. WHIMSICAL 0NE
5. Stefanny
6. xlinh
7. UHH
8. Monochrome.
9. a beautiful nothing

hey arjuna lower my awrning level and i got u in ur supporti katychee campainG

[Simba]

Hmm, you have no warning level to lower...

[*Monochrome.*]

Post edited.

[*.fire*]

Hmm, you have no warning level to lower...

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA









Lower mine.

[hi-C]

I'm sure Moner and Kiera have their reasons to not disclose what happened. With Nicki and Kathleen's demotions those secrets were kept under wraps until a couple of days after the fact.

[voguelove]

id love to support kaycee, but i cant do that without knowing the whole story.

and i cant do that since i havent been on cb for a while.

[viugiufgjhfhjfhg...]

Because they apparently don't give two dimes about Kaycee! Not even one!

Prejudicial language fallacy. Poisoning the Well.

This is not the only situation where staff members behind the demodding of Kaycee have avoided the subject to be discussed.This is not just a problem among the moderators; if we have some corrupted staff members (as well as loss of good moderators), it will inevitably affect the whole community. It's common sense. This just shows that they don't want anyone else getting involved who could possibly see that there's something wrong with the picture.

False dilemma, slippery slope, Post hoc.

Nothing you have said is logically convincing.

[*I Viddy Horrorshow*]

Seon Ho, are you really lecturing as to the appropriate way to go about things?

Honestly, people are saying that 'if they did it, there must have been good reason.' SO, may I ask, WHY?

I just think you're all to f**king stupid not to just take the admins' word for it...

Correction, I have some pretty good evidence

Actually, what he said is that there has been no evidence 'provided' against Kaycee, which is perfectly true. And anyway, evidence or no evidence, it's a bullshit reason to fire her anyway.

[Bonobo]

Moments like these really make me understand why Josh (uronacid) quit cB... You can obviously tell that what people do sometimes on here really are bone headed Well I don't want to make a bad reputation for myself, but what I am about to say is what I think...



And I quote

BTW..this is a problem within the mods. You really don't need to be getting involved, we don't need any added drama.

Sorry, but thats a move a middle school girl would make. The kind when she tells her friend in front of thousands of people to not tell anyone. Instantaneously everyone wants to know, and by holding back it because "you dont want drama" is creating more drama than there would be if you already said it. So please... do us all a favor and stop doing this secret "kaycee's reason doesnt need to shared" because that it clearly bull shit.... We deserve to know as members of YOUR site, other wise we dont know what else your keeping secret from us. That only gives us reasoning to leave...


I support Kaycee!





Sorry to anyone who looked up to me

[marzipan]

Hm, well, I'm not supporting one way or the other since I don't know what's going on, so I'm neutral. But, I'd like to know why she was demodded.

[marzipan]

The thing I'm confused about is: who really knows what's going on? So many people are saying that they know but they can't tell, but who really knows what the problem is besides Mona and Kiera? Because I thought that no one was supposed to know and disclose that information.

[*incoherent*]

Thanks Arjuna.

For adding to the hype.

You really did what was best in this situation. Causing more drama.

You handled this perfectly.

i'm not going to take sides, but i'd like to add that all the mods posting in anonymous shoutouts about this were equally as low as ac doing this.

[Simba]

This could easily be halted if you would just tell us the reason behind Kaycee's demotion.

I'll agree, however, to cool it until Kaycee testifies.

[*incoherent*]

I agree. And have been saying that.

ok, just making sure.

[HakunaMatata]

F**k this being dropped, it's already too big of a f**king issue because it wasn't fair, justified, or even reasonable.

This isn't drama, this is a f**king fight for a reasonable ending. I was given some shit reason for firing me, one that, I'm sure, had been applied to another more established mod would not be enough for demotion. And then I'm told to f**king keep it under wraps.

Well fine, I'll keep it under wraps. Why? Because it really is nobody's business. Even to the people that support me, and I'm so happy that ya'll are, but the reason is nobody's business and, I am completely sure about this;

NOT ENOUGH TO F**KING FIRE ME.

WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DISCUSS IT.

So you know what? We won't discuss the f**king reason. There's no point, because I don't even know why. I did something "really bad". Yeah, okay, I did some bad shit, but enough for demotion? What the f**k is that? They told me no explicit rule that I had broken; so why should I be fired?

Oh, yeah...I shouldn't of.

So now, not only can I not discuss the reason (or, you know, lack of reason) that I was fired, I can't discuss the fact that I was fired. Well, um, WHY THE HELL NOT? Because of hype?

Well, hype for a good Goddamn reason, then.

[kimmytree]

I cant believe this is actualy going on... I'm so sorry kaycee.
Arjuana, sign me up.

[Simba]

Kaycee has testified!

This isn't drama, this is a f**king fight for a reasonable ending.

Viva La Revolucion!

[much2muse]

i'm trying not to take a side since i don't know the situation. But, really, i don't understand why the people shouldn't get to know why the reason someone on the people staff was actually dismissed. Especially since it's controversial.

[kimmytree]

^ EXACTLY. I think we all have every right to know.

[marzipan]

I think it's Kaycee's choice as to whether she wants to tell us or not; but if she wants to, then I don't see why staff should try to prevent her from NOT telling.

[*mzkandi*]

I-I don't believe this.......*sigh*

[Mulder]

what don't you believe exactly?
you tell us nothing, just saying that she deserved it, and what, you expected nothing to come of that? that was pretty stupid.

[Simba]

I think it's Kaycee's choice as to whether she wants to tell us or not; but if she wants to, then I don't see why staff should try to prevent her from NOT telling.

Kaycee has nothing else she can tell us about her demotion, other than her post here.

What is this supposed to accomplish?

I think it's funny that everyone is taking sides without knowing the facts. Since your mind is already made up, what's the point?

This is an exhibition of a weak staff/community relationship. How about listening to the community for once and telling them what's up? You won't listen to even your fellow staff members!

In this particular case, Kaycee's demotion was not justified.

[*incoherent*]

I think it's funny that everyone is taking sides without knowing the facts. Since your mind is already made up, what's the point?

do YOU know the story?

[*S0ul_Reaper*]

i'm trying not to take a side since i don't know the situation. But, really, i don't understand why the people shouldn't get to know why the reason someone on the people staff was actually dismissed. Especially since it's controversial.

think of it like the government, whatever stays in there stays in there especially those of higher officials being the head staff and the admins of this site, we are like the people that demand answers as of demanding and questioning Bush's authority. They could fire him or anyone in office with the consent of the other higher officials even if that person may not know what he/she did wrong. but in Kaycee's case she does not know what she did wrong to get fired, but I'm pretty sure if she took the time to think and look at what she might have done to get fired, then I think all this support and fighting may be futile. People now in the community question the actions and motives of the staff members, if their reasons are to be kept within that area then let it be. I'm not taking sides for anyone but pointing out some stuff that ya'll shold think about before running your mouths arguing why something shouldnt have happend or without knowing the reason why it happened.

[Simba]

Just because I'm the so-called "voice" of the "Anti-Kaycee" movement, doesn't mean there's a conspiracy against her or something. Ultimately, it wasn't my decision. Why don't you seek the answers to your questions from the source, or atleast the people who were directly involved in her removal from the staff team?
Yes.

Isn't that the first thing we tried?

Which utterly failed and brought us here...

[*incoherent*]

Yes.

still not taking sides, but how is that fair to the community and better yet the staff team as a whole? you had told james you were NOT on staff. i understand you still have power to see backstage, but not being a member of the staff team, you shouldn't be allowed to know the reasoning behind it either.

[*incoherent*]

but the question is, how? if it's that obvious, why doesn't every other staff member know?

[*incoherent*]

i understand and like i said, i'm really not trying to take sides. it's just the facts on both sides are really misconstrued right now and it's getting kind of annoying at the moment.

one last question...since you were the "first to know", were you the one to bring it to the staffs attention?

[*incoherent*]

ok, that's all i have because i really don't want to get in the middle. i was just trying to figure some things out.

[*incoherent*]

yeah. it's not really my thing to get involved in this and i really could care less about knowing...it's just i thought i'd figured some things out and thought i'd ask.

[Simba]

No, if you haven't noticed..the head staff/admins: Kiera, Mona, Rebecca and Dani haven't been on that much since this happened. So instead everyone is badgering me, when I've been saying for a while now..It's not my business to tell. I didn't fire Kaycee, so if you really want to know..go to the source.

Don't you think we've been asking the head staff and admins via PMs and IMs? They only reply with "this cannot be discussed" and etcetera etcetera. Besides, you are part of the source.

one last question...since you were the "first to know", were you the one to bring it to the staffs attention?

Yes.

[*incoherent*]

^
ok, i understand suzzette is a source and yes, i found out that she was the one to present the information to the staff, but quoting that is doing nothing for your cause except again pointing out the fact that suzzette is involved.

[Simba]

^ That was the point I was trying to make at the moment. We were going to the sources, and well, Suzzette was totally legible for "badgering."

So instead everyone is badgering me, when I've been saying for a while now..It's not my business to tell. I didn't fire Kaycee, so if you really want to know..go to the source.

Besides Suzzette, how would you know that we haven't been trying to get information from the "sources."

[Simba]

Keep trying then Arjuna.

Sure thing. That's what we've been doing for the last couple of days. This is just more of a public method. In fact, I'm going to make dang sure that they're hearing us out:

Arjuna (ArjunaCapulong) has stepped down from his People Staff position.

[Mulder]

Michelle (Mulder) has stepped down from her Livejournal staff position.

[Simba]

Minus THREE.

Oh no. Not just minus three.

Moderators supporting Kaycee, we're going on strike!

Viva La Revolucion!

[Mulder]

aye.

[*mzkandi*]

Wait!? Whaaa? Oh come on, you guys. Look, PM ME.

[Mulder]

about what?
this is a STRIKE. look it up.

[Stefanny]

What the hell is going on with cb...?

[much2muse]

The only reason why everyone is joining this stupid group is not because they really have a strong opinion about this whole thing. It's because they want to know what happened

With all due respect (sincerely), how can people form a strong opinion on it if they don't know what happened? I understand you're not in the position to tell, but I think someone should. :)

With that said, i'm still on no side. I do respect the mods, I just don't understand all of this.

[michellerrific]

Just a question. Isn't the point of this to KNOW what's going on, not just support Kaycee without reason? Isn't that what everyone is striking against? If those who know what really went on keep it shut as long as they live, cB staffers are just going to diminish and this place will turn into havoc.

[misoshiru]

Arjuna (ArjunaCapulong) has stepped down from his People Staff position.

Michelle (Mulder) has stepped down from her Livejournal staff position.

Oh you two, come on. I understand that you guys are feeling, I don't know the word...betrayed(?) by the demotion of Kaycee. But stepping down right now doesn't help much. This fight right now, is causing a rift between the staff, and between the staff and the community. Something that I don't think cB needs. I've PMed Kaycee and asked her about the situation, since I haven't been around much and right after I come back to cB, this is going on. And she doesn't want to discuss it. I understand that you want an explanation, but I don't think that splitting the staff onto 2 sides is boosting the morale of the community. (Probably not that the demotion and undisclosed explanation of Kaycee helps either..) I thought that Kaycee was a wonderful mod and a great person in general, but maybe she just needs some time to think, maybe the head staff and admin need some time before they feel like they can tell you what happened. And the two of you were amazing staff members, I just didn't feel like it was necessary for the two of you to step down.

This is harmful towards keeping the structure of this community together.

[HongKongDong]

That was an interesting read. With hella people still on there will probably be more to entertain me for later on today.

To all the new people that came into the chat always asking why I no longer went on the forums? I don't need to say a damn thing.

[*WHIMSICAL 0NE*]

I'm stepping down so I don't have to deal with this s**t. Maybe it will get the point across that admins can't just get rid of someone because they feel like it and "don't want to discuss why". wtf, at least the staff should know...

[Stefanny]

What does stepping down have anything to do with the problem? It's not like it'll go away once you're not on staff anymore.

[Simba]

Dee (WHIMSICAL 0NE) has stepped down from her Myspace Staff position.

Minus FIVE Robbi!

[Mulder]

we're making a point. if you choose to ignore what's going on, then so be it, but I'm glad to know that some of us won't stand for this.

[Mulder]

i'm sorry, do the admins not count. what about dani? the admins and heads are the ones that caused this in the first place.

[Simba]

What????

Wouldn't you say the group that supports Kaycee is way bigger? You've got a thread full of people, and people by default are taking her side.

The only people really speaking out about it are me and Robbi

Because you guys were trying to avoid the discussion, remember?

[Simba]

When? Unless you're talking about "until Kaycee testifies."

And well, that's not the case right now, is it.

[*WHIMSICAL 0NE*]

Oh, I'm sure Kaycee will "explain" herself. But until then we're all supporting her.

[Simba]

It is the case, Arjuna. Cool it until she testifies. UNTIL. Are you cooling it? Are you cool?

F**k this being dropped, it's already too big of a f**king issue because it wasn't fair, justified, or even reasonable.

This isn't drama, this is a f**king fight for a reasonable ending. I was given some shit reason for firing me, one that, I'm sure, had been applied to another more established mod would not be enough for demotion. And then I'm told to f**king keep it under wraps.

Well fine, I'll keep it under wraps. Why? Because it really is nobody's business. Even to the people that support me, and I'm so happy that ya'll are, but the reason is nobody's business and, I am completely sure about this;

NOT ENOUGH TO F**KING FIRE ME.
So you know what? We won't discuss the f**king reason. There's no point, because I don't even know why. I did something "really bad". Yeah, okay, I did some bad shit, but enough for demotion? What the f**k is that? They told me no explicit rule that I had broken; so why should I be fired?

Oh, yeah...I shouldn't of.

So now, not only can I not discuss the reason (or, you know, lack of reason) that I was fired, I can't discuss the fact that I was fired. Well, um, WHY THE HELL NOT? Because of hype?

Well, hype for a good Goddamn reason, then.

TRY AGAIN

[technicolour]

Well, by god. Someone enlighten us so that then, and only then, we can all stop with the half-assed, half-knowledge-known generalizations.

[technicolour]

Yes. We can read. I believe we all can. I believe we all can.

And if not, well, hooked on phonics.


But still.

[Mulder]

then tell us the truth, and we wouldn't have to.

[Simba]

HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED IT TO BE SAID TO YOU???

[technicolour]

Come on. Right now, the community feels like the cat. And we're all damn curious. You gunna kill us?

[Simba]

http://files.myopera.com/Inquisitor/files/...t/surrender.jpg

ENGLISH YA MUTHA!!! CAN YA READ IT???

[Stefanny]

Curiousity killed the cat, no?

[marzipan]

^x2 But satisfaction brought it back.

[Stefanny]

pwnt.

[technicolour]

Well, you, and well, practically all of us, have talked ourselves up to the wall. We are all talking in circles, merely because we're all fueled by the little information that we know, except opposite for you because you know the story.

Everyone should have known that this wasn't going to go off easily. It's a demotion, for christs sake. And demotion WITHOUT a public cause. Thats like, a cocktail, for, say, a revolution.

[much2muse]

someone who is in the position to, tell us?
Doesn't cB deserve that, whether we're a mod/admin or not?

who can tell us, that's what i'm confused about.