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post Nov 18 2006, 07:44 PM
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is this the right forum but anyways i wanted to know if smoking is a sin in the christian religion im not talking about cigarates either.
 
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post Nov 18 2006, 08:45 PM
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hmm idk, im not religious, but hm maybe in some religions
 
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post Nov 18 2006, 09:39 PM
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Uhm, it probably is. Bible says, somewhere, that your body should be a temple unto God and something like that.




And smoking kinda ruins the body, thus taking away the temple title.



Idk.
 
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you could say its bad beacsue it fucks your mind and body up.
 
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QUOTE(Sherlock. @ Nov 18 2006, 9:39 PM) *
Uhm, it probably is. Bible says, somewhere, that your body should be a temple unto God and something like that.
And smoking kinda ruins the body, thus taking away the temple title.
Idk.

I agree. Life is supposed to be a gift from God. If you don't cherish it, then you're pretty much disrespecting Him.
 
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post Nov 18 2006, 11:02 PM
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^and for the people who are atheist...pretty much disrespecting the parents for bothering to make them.

it doesn't say so in the bible..I think but my youth group discourages smoking, especially since it harms your body and your body is owned by God... if you believe in that sort of stuff.

A painefull euphoria if you believe that then the world might as well not exist since it runs entirely on sin. Christians believe life is a test... to decide whether you're worthy of God's grace and to enter the kingdom of heaven... If God thought sin was worthless we can be right now relaxing in the garden of Eden.
 
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I think you can interpret that way. There's something to the effect of drinking too much is bad because intemperance is bad...I don't remember. Something like that. But I don't necessarily think every single thing in the bible has to be taken literally, like the supposed mention of homosexuality. Or maybe I'm just not much of a Catholic. I don't know, whatever.
 
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Hahaha.... smoking a sin. God put it here, right? Sorry. That was immature of me. I guess it depends on what religion. I'm not religious, but that doesn't mean that I don't believe in right and wrong.
 
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post Nov 19 2006, 12:12 AM
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I don't know.
I don't smoke though.
I mean, smoking could kill you right (to some extent..)?
& the way I see it, life is a gift so why throw it away?
 
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errrrrm. i'm not religious, so i can't answer. but just don't smoke, sin or not. it's nasty.
 
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I guess it isnt a Sin to smoke as Matthew 15:17-20 says

Anything you eat passes through the stomache and then goes out of the body. But evil words come from an evil heart and defile the person who says them. For from the heart comes evil thoughts, murger, adultery all other sexual immorality, theft, lying and slander. These are what defile you. Eating with unwashed hands could never defile you and make you unnacceptable to God.

But you have to ask why are you smoking? To find peace, selfish reasons? because Mattew 16:24,25 says

If any of you want ot be My follower, you must put aside your selfish ambition, shoulder the cross and follow me. If you try to keep your life for yourswelf, you will lose it. But if you give up your life for me, You will find true life.

QUOTE(Summer Rain @ Nov 19 2006, 3:02 PM) *
it doesn't say so in the bible..I think but my youth group discourages smoking, especially since it harms your body and your body is owned by God... if you believe in that sort of stuff.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20

Don't you know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself, for God bought you with a high price. So you must honor God with your body
 
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post Nov 19 2006, 01:11 AM
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I don't know but I think it comes down to whether smoking adds to your life or consumes your life. I mean, alcohol can be harmful to your body, but one of Jesus' first miracles was turning water wine. And it is known they drank wine during the last summer. So I mean its obviously not a sin to drink it, but I would think it would be a sin to be an alcoholic, because you let alcohol consume your life and if thats all you think about you obviously don't have time for the Lord. So I guess same goes with marajuana. And its health affects aren't as adverse as other things. So I suppose as long as you don't use it to consume your life or pull you away from God, it is okay.

But I'm not God so I don't know all the answers :)
 
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^ Ephesians 5:18

Don't be drunk with wine, because that will ruin you life. Instead, let the holy spiritfill and control you.

and with the point of using drugs, that entails with no self control

Proverbs 25:28

A person without self-control is as defenseless as a city with broken down walls
 
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post Nov 19 2006, 01:55 AM
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of course its a goddamn sin
 
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A painefull euphoria if you believe that then the world might as well not exist since it runs entirely on sin. Christians believe life is a test... to decide whether you're worthy of God's grace and to enter the kingdom of heaven... If God thought sin was worthless we can be right now relaxing in the garden of Eden.



^^i retract my statement =D.
but i guess you have a point in saying that if god didnt try to test us with stuff then wed all be living in a garden of eve scenario
 
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post Nov 19 2006, 07:21 AM
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Yes,I think so.Smoking is just like drinking wine,a sin.
 
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post Nov 19 2006, 07:24 AM
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^If drinking is a sin, smoking is definately a sin. It's probably a 'bigger' sin.
 
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post Nov 19 2006, 09:58 AM
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Why let some fallacious book dictate your life? That's what I don't understand.

If it were all true, then we're all sinners. We've ALL done something sinful. So technically, we're all going to hell.

(Not.)

But I'll keep quiet. zipped.gif
 
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QUOTE(Sherlock. @ Nov 18 2006, 9:39 PM) *
Uhm, it probably is. Bible says, somewhere, that your body should be a temple unto God and something like that.
And smoking kinda ruins the body, thus taking away the temple title.
Idk.
^ I agree. I'm not religious or anything, but that makes sense to me.
 
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QUOTE(.fire @ Nov 19 2006, 1:06 AM) *
I guess it isnt a Sin to smoke as Matthew 15:17-20 says

Anything you eat passes through the stomache and then goes out of the body. But evil words come from an evil heart and defile the person who says them. For from the heart comes evil thoughts, murger, adultery all other sexual immorality, theft, lying and slander. These are what defile you. Eating with unwashed hands could never defile you and make you unnacceptable to God.

But you have to ask why are you smoking? To find peace, selfish reasons? because Mattew 16:24,25 says

If any of you want ot be My follower, you must put aside your selfish ambition, shoulder the cross and follow me. If you try to keep your life for yourswelf, you will lose it. But if you give up your life for me, You will find true life.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20

Don't you know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself, for God bought you with a high price. So you must honor God with your body

I didn't say ruining your body, which is the temple of God isn't in the bible..What I meant was I don't remember a verse saying, "Smoking is a sin."

But putting the real verses down is a great help. Answers the topic's questions and erases some of the doubts...At least mine were
 
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QUOTE(.fire @ Nov 19 2006, 12:25 AM) *
^ Ephesians 5:18

Don't be drunk with wine, because that will ruin you life. Instead, let the holy spiritfill and control you.

and with the point of using drugs, that entails with no self control

Proverbs 25:28

A person without self-control is as defenseless as a city with broken down walls


definately a big difference between being drunk and drinking.




and to the angelina taylor person, yeah we ARE all sinners, nothing can change that. the idea is to repent for the sins you have commited.
 
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post Nov 19 2006, 11:12 PM
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the way i see it, smoking is fair game, so long as you don't choke the non-smokers around you. down w. second hand smoke.
 
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post Nov 19 2006, 11:18 PM
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To be completely honest, I don't know the answer to that question. Intuitively, I'd say no. But there's so many possible viewpoitns that I have yet to really decide. But what I have decided is that smoking can't really compared to drinking, since the two are completely different things. Alchohol, when drinked (that can't be the correct word for it) in moderation and properly, has been shown to be beneficial for your health. Smoking, on the other hand, has no advantages, even in moderation.
 
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post Nov 20 2006, 08:35 AM
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I would say no. In order to sin you have to break one of the ten comandments. It would be like asking if driving a car to fast is a sin, both have the ability of killing you.
 
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post Nov 20 2006, 09:51 PM
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i dont know , for me , i just dont like smoking ....i don`t care if anyone elses smoke , you dont know how many people in my family smokes my sister my cousins . but for me its just a preferance ....same as alchohol , i`ve been sober for like 5 months already .....soo yea .
 
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QUOTE(D.H. Cooley @ Nov 20 2006, 8:35 AM) *
I would say no. In order to sin you have to break one of the ten comandments. It would be like asking if driving a car to fast is a sin, both have the ability of killing you.
^ True, but the 10 commandments aren't the only sins.
QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Nov 19 2006, 9:58 AM) *
Why let some fallacious book dictate your life? That's what I don't understand.

If it were all true, then we're all sinners. We've ALL done something sinful. So technically, we're all going to hell.

(Not.)

But I'll keep quiet. zipped.gif

^ Erm, too bad there's forgiveness, mercy, and salvation. That cleans you of your sins. mellow.gif

Also, it is against the law and the bible says to abide by laws sooo, yeah, there you go.
 
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The bible say's abide the laws but in china or something when christianiasm or whatever was illegal people still worshipped AGAINST the law in thier homes i dont think that was a sin =0

well i asked for the christian religion since im christian duh but .... drinking is not a sin because jesus drank wine just not to much hmm i wonder. to sin or not to sin
 
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post Nov 20 2006, 10:28 PM
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Since when did smoking become against the law?

For minors, yes. But not otherwise.
 
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This sould be in debate I think.

Anyway..

If your parents don't know about it and they say don't do it ever.

That is braking one of the 10 commandments..
Thall shall obay parents or somthing like that. :-/

I think it is.
 
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QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Nov 20 2006, 10:28 PM) *
Since when did smoking become against the law?

A while ago in NY. It's banned in public places, such as schools, restaurants, places like that.
 
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smoking weed =/
 
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QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Nov 20 2006, 10:28 PM) *
Since when did smoking become against the law?

For minors, yes. But not otherwise.

Smoking weed is DEFINITELY illegal (in the us, atleast).

I'd say yes, for reasons already stated.
 
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it should be. it`s killing the world slowly.
 
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Smoking weed is DEFINITELY illegal (in the us, atleast).

I'd say yes, for reasons already stated.

Though possession of up to an ounce of weed was nearly legalized in Nevada. But the referendum was rejected. Probably doesn't help that the mormons are next door in Utah.
 
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abortion is not illegal but in the christian religion its bad. so maybe weed is actually could be a nuetral thing?
 
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post Nov 22 2006, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(StanleyThePanda @ Nov 21 2006, 12:07 AM) *
Smoking weed is DEFINITELY illegal (in the us, atleast).

I'd say yes, for reasons already stated.


You don't think I know that? I was talking about cigarettes..
 
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QUOTE(black_heart @ Nov 18 2006, 7:44 PM) *
is this the right forum but anyways i wanted to know if smoking is a sin in the christian religion im not talking about cigarates either.

I think (and it has been a VERY long time since I read anything of a religious nature) that if something (like smoking what I think you are referring to) is against the law, chances are a church would find it a sin as well.

All the other stuff being mentioned here, harming your body and such isn't valid. I only say this because if that were to be taken literally (and as mentioned before), a good 90% or so of what we do, what we eat, etc would be considered a sin.
 
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This is according to what I know and based on the Christianity.

Technically, it's not a sin. But it is in one way because smoking is a temptation you led yourself into annnnd it keeps you from having a good faith with God. Did that make any sense?
 
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QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Nov 20 2006, 10:54 PM) *
A while ago in NY. It's banned in public places, such as schools, restaurants, places like that.

it has always been banned in public places (or family-oriented places) to prevent second-hand smoking and other such things but it is not illegal (cigarettes)
 
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okay, here is the f**king legit answer. i go to a christian school and they shove this crap down our throats.

when you are a christian, the holy spirit resides in you, so you can't be demon-possessed, unless you are "under the influence," then you are no longer YOU, and you have opened up a gateway to let satan into your soul. deep shit. <3

pot is low class, by the way.
 
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since im not christian, i don't think smoking is a sin,
just my 2c
 
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post Dec 4 2006, 04:29 AM
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Smoking is not a sin. Although using narcotics which limits the control over yourself, that is a sin.
 
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umm well the bible talks about how your body is a "temple" and you should honor God with your body...and smoking would be harming it...so...yah i would say its a sin
 
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No, its just stupid. Why don't you ask a priest. I'm almost positive he will say no.
 
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. your body is a temple BUT ITS NOT GOING TO GOD. your soul is going to God and that is what you need to protect, not by what you drink or eat but by your ACTIONS and how you live your life for God and others. if your body would go to God then all coffins would be empty and you would see bodies floating up and down everyday. Your body is just an earthly thing. Your soul is what is leaving.

to tell you the truth smoking is a sin but to your own self.

BUT

if you smoke in excess it can kill you so your basically are comitting suicide which is a sin.
 
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QUOTE(Dizzi @ Dec 4 2006, 2:11 PM) *
umm well the bible talks about how your body is a "temple" and you should honor God with your body...and smoking would be harming it...so...yah i would say its a sin


Smoking is harmful to your body, but then again, so is eating meat, taking certain medicine, drinking alcohol (which they give in Church), and playing sports...
 
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Smoking kills you
but if its a sin.....if you belive in god...your killing your self when you smoke and thats bad ...but hey don't let me stop you

smoking is gross and fowl to me ..eww
yeah
but you are your own person
kill yourself and eat away your lungs if you want
 
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its not a sin but it sure is harmful to your health and to the health of those who inhale the smoke let out by your cigarette! mad.gif
 
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pot is low class, by the way.[/color]

Hmm, out of curiosity, says who? Those who made it illegal? Those who are religious? I mean seriously, who deems what low class?

You can can choose not to like or do something, but I certainly wouldn't consider any particular group or individual qualified to definitively determine anything as low class. It's just your opinion.

(I apologize if that seemed a bit hot headed, it just irks me when people deem things less than them, or "low class" in this case)
 
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really? is that why people who do sports live longer?
 
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really? is that why people who do sports live longer?


no... not everyone. there are some people who over excercise and die of a heart attack or other illness.
 
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I dunno?
 
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I don't see how it could be a sin. Of course it's not something that would help you or anyone else, but I don't understand how it could be offending God in any way... look at how many people do it. If that were true, Hell would be overflowing... or something.
 
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Can Hell overflow?
 
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For those who didn't know, even if you're a sinner, you can still enter heaven by seeking forgiveness in God. Repentence is the life of a Christian. Even moses had his temptations but he's up in Heaven enjoying eternity. A lot of the priests I've known in my life mention this during the homily. I don't know why you guys assume you have to reach the status of a saint to enter heaven.
 
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yes. mostly because it messes you up
and makes you do bad things ?
 
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you could say its bad beacsue it fucks your mind and body up.

...yeah you took the words right out of my mouth
 
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I think the majority of people here are completely missing the thread maker's point/question:
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is this the right forum but anyways i wanted to know if smoking is a sin in the christian religion im not talking about cigarates either.


And she isn't talking about cigarettes either.
 

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