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Wheelchairs vs. Legs., hs girl can't join track.
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post Sep 21 2006, 11:26 PM
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The article is long so imma make a summary. On my local news station there is this girl who is on a wheelchair but the specialized wheelchair for sport (she still uses her arms though). Everyone is okay for her to be on the track team including matches against other schools but the PIAA of the state wont allow her to be on the track team because of her wheelchair.

What do you think? Can she be on the track team? even though she is on a wheelchair..

My opinion: its a icky situation cause i feel bad for her but in my mind it still pops up that she is in a wheel chair there might be a slight advantage for her, but then again she moves them with her arms. I am not sure but i dont think she should be on the team. lol sorry.


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post Sep 22 2006, 07:44 PM
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Track deals with running right? Not to sound like an ass, but why would you want to join a track team if you can't run?
 
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post Sep 22 2006, 10:54 PM
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^Track isn't all about running. There are many other events in track. I think you may be referring to cross country.
 
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post Sep 23 2006, 01:43 PM
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I still think they should let her be in track. It's not like she's got a souped up motor on her chair. ha. But she's using her arms and they're using their legs.
It might be kinda embaressing if they lost to her though.
 
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post Sep 23 2006, 02:09 PM
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I dont wanna be mean too but like its a wheelchair i think she should join another sport. I think i would say yes to her if she had those running legs the prosthetic legs. yea then i guess she could join but she has a problem with her spine that disables her to walk.
 
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post Sep 23 2006, 08:11 PM
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I wonder why she wanted to be in track in the first place.
But I'm sure there's other sports that if she played them people would have an issue with just as much as track. Maybe she should join student coucil instead.
 
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post Sep 23 2006, 10:18 PM
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Or Basketball for impaired people. There are many choices for her. Just because she is in a wheelchair does not mean that she can't play sports and can only do unathletic things.
 
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post Oct 3 2006, 04:31 PM
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it is track and field. she should be treated equally people shouldn't see her or segregate her because of the wheelchair she's just like everyone else. she's capable of saying what she can do and can't do if she knew she couldn't do field then she wouldn't have joined in the first place. let the girl advocate herself don't tell her what she can or can not do.
 
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post Oct 3 2006, 04:59 PM
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a lot of sports have running in it. wow thats amzing though. i actually saw an article last time about some boy on a wheelchaor and he joined the basketball team, and yup he was the best player in the team! crazy right? i have to find that article.
 
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post Oct 4 2006, 01:31 PM
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She doesn't belong on the team. What's next, a paraplegic joining a soccer or swim team?
 
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post Oct 11 2006, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Oct 4 2006, 2:31 PM) *
She doesn't belong on the team. What's next, a paraplegic joining a soccer or swim team?


paraplegics can swim you know.
 
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post Oct 11 2006, 02:13 PM
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Field events should be fine, but like people said previously track involves running and you need your legs to do that.
 
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post Oct 22 2006, 09:40 AM
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shes in a WHEELCHAIR. WHEELS......

sorry but no. ermm.gif
 
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post Oct 22 2006, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(mznikki @ Oct 4 2006, 5:31 AM) *
she should be treated equally people shouldn't see her or segregate her because of the wheelchair she's just like everyone else.
i'd disagree with the 'she's just like everyone else' statement; she's in a wheelchair and everybody else is on their legs. i think it's super she wants to get involved in sports even with her wheelchair status but i think there's room to argue the wheelchair might give her an advantage, however ridiculous that may be. i don't think she should be allowed to join in, sorry.
 
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post Oct 25 2006, 10:24 PM
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Well like a person previously said, track deals with running; but only when it's a normal team. There are obviously wheelchair sports; it's not like they'd exclude somebody from sports just cuz they have a disability. She should be able to join some wheelchair track team or something.
 
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QUOTE(mznikki @ Oct 11 2006, 12:53 PM) *
paraplegics can swim you know.


Yeah SUUUUURE, next you're going to tell me that retards are actually people.
 
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post Nov 6 2006, 02:44 AM
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That's really rude to say. Have you even met someone with a mental disability or even someone in a wheelchair?

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Paraplegic To Swim 42 Miles in Pacific Ocean First American paraplegic to swim English Channel will now attempt 42-mile Catalina Channel double (Long Beach to Catalina Island roundtrip, 24 hours)

Long Beach, CA— On September 3-4, 32-year-old San Antonio, TX resident Jason Pipoly will attempt to become the first paraplegic to swim the Catalina Channel double—Long Beach, CA to Catalina Island and back, a total of 42 miles.

A boat that sleeps 30, chartered by Hanger, will accompany Pipoly the entire swim. A member of the Catalina Channel Swimming Federation will also be on-board. This swim has been submitted to the Guinness Book of World Records for consideration.

Swim Start and Finish:

Boat departs from Berth 55 ~ Queens Wharf ~ 555 Pico Ave., Long Beach, 6:45pm, September 3.
Boat takes Jason to Cabrillo Beach, the official start of the swim, 7:00pm, September 3.
Jason swims 21 miles, 12 hours to Long Point Beach on Catalina Island, touches and turns around for the second leg of the swim (another 21 miles and 12 hours).
Jason finishes the swim at Cabrillo Beach, approximately 7:00pm, September 4.
Paralyzed from the chest down in a car accident in 1998, Pipoly became the first American paraplegic, the second paraplegic in the world, to swim the English Channel, a 21-mile course (August 2002).

19 years before his accident, in 1982, 11-year-old Pipoly became the youngest person to attempt to swim the English Channel. He fell just four miles short after swimming 17-miles in whitecap, rough waters for eight hours. Pipoly was a guest on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson (1982) right after he returned to the States. A still photograph of Pipoly’s interview with Carson is available. Pipoly attempted this swim at such a young age because his father had recently completed it.

“ Every time I get in the water, I thank God that I can do the things I can do,” Pipoly said. “My intentions are pure—to motivate others. I want to show people, by example, that it’s never too late to realize your dreams.”

Pipoly has trained three hours a day, six days a week, for the past four years, to be able to complete the Catalina Channel swim. One of the largest risks associated with this 42-mile swim is the concern around shark attacks--especially considering the recent San Luis Obispo fatal attack (August 19, 2003). - http://www.hanger.com/sections/po/newsroom/pipoly.html


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People : The Hope of the Disabled Swimming Race World of the Went in for the Paralympics
Mr. Junpei Kimura

Mr. Kimura was born in 1985 in Hyogo and grew up in Tokyo. He has used crutches since he was in a kindergartner because of a congenital deformity of the leg. He's a graduate of Kosei Gakuen High school, currently a sophomore of the School of Education and a member of the swimming club. In his third year in high school, he was selected as an important swimmer by the Japan Swimming Federation for the Disabled and took part in the IPC (International Paralympics Committee) World Swimming Championship. He competed in the Athens Paralympics this summer and took sixth place.

Mr. Kimura, who walks around the campus with crutches, is a star swimmer. He came in sixth in the Athens Paralympics, though he said, “I was lucky to be able to participate in the Paralympics. I really aimed to get a medal but it was good result considering that I'm still developing." He has already set his sights on the Beijing Paralympics.

Crutches are necessity for him since he suffers from a congenital leg deformity. When he was in the first year of elementary school, he enjoyed splashing and playing in water, so his mother took him to a swimming school near his house. He has belonged to swimming clubs since he was a junior high school student. When he was in the second year in high school, a swimming coach said to him "You have what it takes to succeed in the swimming world of the disabled." This coach's words were his turning point. He first took part in the Japan Paralympics, and then he won the chance to compete in the IPC World Swimming Championship. Finally, he went in for this Paralympics. "In Athens, I was impressed with the swimmers who were more handicapped than I. When I saw their good results, I thought I could do it, too." he said.

Mr. Kimura, who has grown up without serious discrimination, thinks that our society should be a symbiosis between the ordinary and the disabled, because, he said, "We can understand each other if we live together." He chose this subject for the short essay in the university entrance examination. “I had confidence about this essay, and my idea is still the same. This is my belief.

He has thought that he would like to become a teacher of social studies. But now he is also interested in being a top athlete. He wishes to study at a foreign university where sports for the disabled are developed and rooted in society. He also wants to train in ideal surroundings. He said, "But this is merely one of many choices." Mr. Kimura's future is full of possibilities.- http://www.waseda.jp/student/weekly/conten...lish/e043p.html

When anyone, even someone who is handicaped, is in the water, they do have the ability to swim due to buoyancy. They do have some ability to move in the water even if it is only their arms they still can swim.

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Some experts recommend swimming and water exercises as a good way to keep muscles as toned as possible without causing undue stress on them. The buoyancy of the water helps protect against certain kinds of muscle strain and injury.

Sorry, somewhat on topic about people in wheelchairs, but just responding to what kyrogenix had said.
 
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post Nov 6 2006, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(mznikki @ Nov 6 2006, 2:44 AM) *
That's really rude to say. Have you even met someone with a mental disability or even someone in a wheelchair?


Sarcasm test failed.
 
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post Nov 6 2006, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(&/degradanca. @ Oct 22 2006, 10:03 AM) *
i'd disagree with the 'she's just like everyone else' statement; she's in a wheelchair and everybody else is on their legs. i think it's super she wants to get involved in sports even with her wheelchair status but i think there's room to argue the wheelchair might give her an advantage, however ridiculous that may be. i don't think she should be allowed to join in, sorry.

Well..people in wheelchairs are human too, thats what I meant, and she still could participate in field events where she's using just her arms.

kyro- even if you were being sarcastic rolleyes.gif , it still can be considered to some, who don't pick up on the sarcasim as quickly, as offensive and rude, or even if they do pick up on it they may be offended regardless of your sarcasim. Also, I flipped out my appologies.
 
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post Nov 14 2006, 08:48 PM
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she shouldent be denyed the right to run. its discrimination.
regardless if she cant walk
the least they can do is let her try..geeze.
what ever happend to giving people a chance like in the disney movies.
ahaha
 
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post Nov 25 2006, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(The E-Man @ Sep 23 2006, 9:18 PM) *
Or Basketball for impaired people. There are many choices for her. Just because she is in a wheelchair does not mean that she can't play sports and can only do unathletic things.


I totally agree.
 
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post Dec 2 2006, 12:29 AM
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Well, she has no usable leg. Why not let her subsititue with her arms?
 
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post Dec 26 2006, 07:18 PM
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aw. poor kid. it would be A LOT harder to compete. well, if she wanted to run. the lanes may not be big enough to accomodate her chair.
 

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