issue., i'm sure this has been brought up dozens of times.. Options

[nothing_plus_thi...]

stealing, jocking, theft, copyright infringement.

it's all been a pretty big problem here on createblog. tons of graphics and layouts have been created using images from sites such as photobucket (from random peoples' albums), deviantart, threadless, naked&angry, artists' websites, etc. all copyrighted material. material that is not stock material. and taking complete credit for it.

and i don't really care if there is a thread already about this or if it was mentioned in another thread. because. well. i just don't feel like going through and responding with something that will never be read, bringing back a thread that is long dead, or simply watching people talk about it and not do anything.

i think that while the admin and mods are doing their little "house cleaning", they should REALLY concentrate on removing submissions that contain stolen images. because this site should not condone these things.

i also think that a field should be added to submission forms for credit giving. even if what someone used IS stock photography or otherwise free-to-use material, credit should be given. and i believe that if people were to see an entire space dedicated to giving such credit, they would tend to do it more.

this website should be fair and follow copyright rules in all areas. because i've seen plenty of people complaining about other websites "jocking" from createblog. why not stop being hypocrites and set an example for such sites?

[*StanleyThePanda*]

It has been brought up yes, and there isnt really anything the staff can do unless the graphics/layouts you speak of are PMed to a staff member to be removed, but you have to show proof.

Also, I am a huge threadless fan, so all threadless layouts have been removed (unless there are ones on the xangas? im not sure)

But yes, any layouts you see with jocked images, please PM one of the design staff (myspace, xanga, livejournal, design) With proof, and it will be removed.

[smoke]

You act as though we're allowing copyrighted images on this site on purpose. Do you know how hard it is to keep track of all this and furthermore, prove that it's stolen? This is why, currently, our only is if someone PM's us and proves that it was stolen. And it's not like we aren't doing anything. We've been really busy on the subject and trying to come up with ideas to put a stop to it. Until then, we're relying on you guys.

Thanks for the input though. Trust me, we've been on the issue and continue to do so.

[*mona lisa*]

i also think that a field should be added to submission forms for credit giving. even if what someone used IS stock photography or otherwise free-to-use material, credit should be given. and i believe that if people were to see an entire space dedicated to giving such credit, they would tend to do it more.

I really like this idea. Hopefully, it'll be something that will come along with cB4.

[GREASEbaby]

But there is something wrong with that option.

Not everybody uses other people's images, a lot of people make their own. So, if we did add that, it would have to say "Optional" on it. Get what I'm saying?

[*mona lisa*]

What's wrong with people saying what they made is their own? I don't think anyone who submits something to cB (sadly to say) makes all the brushes/textures/patterns/etc. and takes all the photos themselves when using it on a layout. We just have to trust that people will tell the truth.

By leaving it optional, I doubt everyone would actually fill out that field. We already have people not following simple rules, like choosing the proper category or putting in tags. We just have to stress the fact that credit should be given for everything that is used.

[Hmm. I should do that for all my past submissions.]

[GREASEbaby]

Exactly why optional wouldn't be a good idea. But it's basically the only thing we can do. Because I, and you, know people do make their own images, even if they didn't make the brush/texture/pattern themself. Like the design staff/official designers. They use photoshop/psp to make their images. So would they credit the site that they got the brush/whatever from?

But there is still the possibility that the person made it completely by scratch. It's a low one, but it's still a possibility.

Even if we did have the Credits option, people would still be able to put, "made completely by me", which, may or may not be true in different cases.

[freeflow]

^ Yea some people would put made by them, but the credits option can stop some people from claiming things as their own . No one's saying that the credit field will stop everyone from using images not made by them and stuff. But it is a good start and it can stop some people too.

I also think that , like use said Janette, if they use brushes from other sites, and they want to give credit in that field they should. I don't see anything wrong with them crediting brush sites. Or any other sites that helped put it together.

The credits field doesn't mean they didn't make it . It's giving credit to their resources. So if you made the image, then you made it. But you can still give credit. No one's saying like, you can't make your own images. Its just saying that if you used something from another site then place the credit.

The goal is to help prevent stealing, and jocking. Not stop people from submitting their own creations.

[Blaqheartedstar]

Exactly why optional wouldn't be a good idea. But it's basically the only thing we can do. Because I, and you, know people do make their own images, even if they didn't make the brush/texture/pattern themself. Like the design staff/official designers. They use photoshop/psp to make their images. So would they credit the site that they got the brush/whatever from?

But there is still the possibility that the person made it completely by scratch. It's a low one, but it's still a possibility.

Even if we did have the Credits option, people would still be able to put, "made completely by me", which, may or may not be true in different cases.

^ Yea some people would put made by them, but the credits option can stop some people from claiming things as their own . No one's saying that the credit field will stop everyone from using images not made by them and stuff. But it is a good start and it can stop some people too.

I also think that , like use said Janette, if they use brushes from other sites, and they want to give credit in that field they should. I don't see anything wrong with them crediting brush sites. Or any other sites that helped put it together.

The credits field doesn't mean they didn't make it . It's giving credit to their resources. So if you made the image, then you made it. But you can still give credit. No one's saying like, you can't make your own images. Its just saying that if you used something from another site then place the credit.

The goal is to help prevent stealing, and jocking. Not stop people from submitting their own creations.

ok, ur thinking/ going to add a credit section to prevent layouts using copyrighted images
on their layouts

ok what about images from large companies who make games, movies etc.
what happens if we use images from them? everything goes into that section?
i personally like that idea alot and look forward to it coming out soon


i mean all my layouts i give credit to whos image and whos brush i use
all images...

and i think that people who make their layouts and don't credit anyone should get a warning regardless if 'everything' in that layout is 'theirs'
i know what its like to have ur images stolen... and it isn't a lovely feeling...

and i've seen a few layouts who are using images from DA with out credit...

[GREASEbaby]

Toya, that's a good point.

I vote for credits form. xD
Anyone who agrees, say Aye, anyone who is opposed, say Nay. heehee.

[freeflow]

I think its good to add a credit section period. Brushes, images, all that stuff could and should be included. Images from games, movies, etc can have credit given for the use of them. I mean even if the image is from google, they can easily type google in the credit section.

You want us to give warnings to all people that don't credit? Thats everyone. . Some people do and some don't . For layouts especially. We can't just start warning people because they don't credit. When you think about it, you know the first thing their going to say is "Well it wasn't written anywhere. Its not in the rules...." Etc. Warnings for credit, shouldn't be done. UNLESS the credit section wasn't an optional field. (IF WE GET ONE)

Alot of us know how it feels to get things, stolen. Whether its images, or graphics. Its not much we can do about it.

[Blaqheartedstar]

ok
maybe the warning thing is a bit extreme...
but i guess we can start now with crediting whos image we use
spread the word?

[GREASEbaby]

Other staff, am I allowed to make a minor announcement in the minor changes/announcements thread?

[technicolour]

Okay, I download tons of brushes. From everywhere. I dont remember half the places.

Same with textures and patterns. Yes, I have most of them sorted into folders under authors name, but, a lot of it I dont have sorted.



Now would it be bad if I made an all out general resources list, my personal list, with all of the sites I use, and just link to that everytime?

[GREASEbaby]

Err, I can't tell if that's sarcastic or not.

But if not..I guess so.
I feel dumb.

[technicolour]

Oh, no, it wasn't meant sarcastically.

I meant it as, can I make my own list of all the places I get my stuff from and just link to that everytime I submit something.

But I was being serious about not remembering where I got half of my stuff.

[GREASEbaby]

^Yeah, that'd be a good idea.
Can I make a minor announcement in that thread?

[technicolour]

Wait to clear this with an admin.

I'm still confused about this.

[freeflow]

Yea, lists are better for people. I know I would have to use a list on another site and then just link it too.

Janette - The admins have to do it, I believe. And this is just an idea right now..

[technicolour]

Okay. So basically, what you're saying is:

People need to start crediting for where they got their brushes/textures/patterns/screencaps/whatever the heck it is. Hopefully with CB4 there will be a credit form field thing.

And, basically, any picture of any celebrity ever used in a layout, yeah, those are totally copyrighted by the photographer, or whoever holds the rights. I doubt some teenager has the rights to them, though.

[verbalistic]

Yeah its already been brought up by me, maybe you should have read my topic before you made this one.

[technicolour]

Okay, its been brought up by a lot of people.



I dont know if people were here to remember the big catastrophe of the Copyright Infringment thread brought up ages ago, but yes. That was a Catastrophe. With a capital C.

Its just part of internet life.


it's naive to think that Oh yeah, no ones going to steal this. Blah blah blah.



But I would be willing to make my resource list and post it whenever I submit anything.

[GREASEbaby]

As of now, I think the only thing we can do is ask people to form an online list and then post a link to it in the comments.

[nothing_plus_thi...]

okay. i know that admin/mods are very busy and that they cannot keep track of every submission. i just think that some of the things, particularly graphics, are very obviously images that have not been created by anyone on createblog.

but anyway. since i understand the time constraints and pressures of the admin here on cb, i took some of my time to go through some of the sections. let's start with graphics.

i went through every single page of graphics. and here are the submissions i found that were stolen/jocked/whatever. i'm sure there are lots more. but these were the ones i absolutely KNEW where the originals came from.

(i made this list in editpad as i went along, and i really don't feel like making all the links...well, links. so. copy and paste, yeah?

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=9579
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/11344458/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=11002
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/224575...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=8267
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/331640...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=7883
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19194080/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=4391
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19967666/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=5665
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/522882...me+-in%3Ascraps
or: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/833876...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=984
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17233172/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=306
taken from: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=306

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=1162
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/30259794/


and besides those, i found several submissions that were submitted 2 & three times. so, i'm assuming that no one here on cb made them and that they are from somewhere else and that no one had permission to take credit for them as their own work.

this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=3491
is the same as this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=5924

this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=6346
is the same as this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=9673


and then! there are the ones that i cannot track down the originals of, but i KNOW they were not created by anyone (that i KNOW of) here on cb. yet, here they are! submitted, accepted, and being stolen.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=2051 - from threadless.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=11406 - from naked and angry.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=2711 - from deviantart. is no longer in the gallery it was in. i had it in my favourites. but, i honestly can't remember if it was stock or not. asklgh.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=328 - from naked and angry.

[GREASEbaby]

Mmkay, thanks for the links. I don't know whether I should contact the "creator" or just go ahead and reject it, so I'll wait for an admin/more experienced staff's input.

[CRASH.NUCLEARCEN...]

I really wish Kids would stop taking other people's work, especially since it get's the sites that they upload these things to into trouble. I am fairly certain Createblog doesn't want a lawsuit, so if you don't want Createblog to get a lawsuit either, Then PLEASE stop taking people's artistic Photographs, Mixed Media, and Graphic Art Works.

The items on Deviantart that are NOT under STOCK or RESOURCES are not for you to save!

Anything found on Threadless/Naked&Angry are copywritten designs and you saving them and creating works out of them is ILLEGAL.

I know alot of kids don't even give a rip, But they will when they get a Phone call from a Lawyer.

If you don't have talent, Then give up. If you do have talent and don't know how to use it, then practice and get better.

[GREASEbaby]

Heehee nice rant

I think I'm going to contact the creators though, see what's up.
Because the creator of the layout just might be the user on da that made the image o_O

[nothing_plus_thi...]

i tried to figure that one out. if the people here on cb were the same as the ones on devart. but, i decided that it's unlikely. considering the people who have the images on devart are fairly wellknown and respected on that site. and i honestly don't, no offense to createblog, think they would come over and submit their work here.

[CRASH.NUCLEARCEN...]

Of course, Createblog is a Community...Not an artist sancuary. This means we have little kids, naughty kids, untalented kids, stupid kids, creepy adults, and a large variety of people on Createblog..While the people on deviantart have talent, or..Think they have talent. :-/

Um, Deviant Art has an entire Stock Section so there's really no excuse to steal Art Labeled Photographs. Plagurism, Stealing, and alike are getting really popular especially online...And basically if everyone continued to stay or increase our behavior then...There's going to be no originality in the future and everyone can call themselves an Artist.

[GREASEbaby]

Sigh...that really makes me think like I'm a staff member of some horrible website...ugh. eh. i feel like crap again.

Crash, I really don't know who you're talking to, it seems like you're just ranting about jocking. Fortunately, we're starting to figure out how to take action to stop this, and hopefully, inspire most of the web to stop jocking.

[technicolour]

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=11002
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/224575...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=8267
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/331640...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=7883
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19194080/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=4391
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19967666/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=5665
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/522882...me+-in%3Ascraps
or: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/833876...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=984
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17233172/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=306
taken from: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=306

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=1162
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/30259794/


this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=3491
is the same as this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=5924
(I rejected both of these. They were both horrible image quality and blurry)

this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=6346
is the same as this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=9673
Rejected the last one, had a more recent submit date, compared to the first one who had an older one.


http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=2051 - from threadless.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=11406 - from naked and angry.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=2711 - from deviantart. is no longer in the gallery it was in. i had it in my favourites. but, i honestly can't remember if it was stock or not. asklgh.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=328 - from naked and angry.


All the stuff in red I rejected.

[nothing_plus_thi...]

thank you.

and, i could never agree more about theft (especially art theft) running rampant online in the most insane way. i have actually had "conversations" with people who HONESTLY thought that...as long as something is online, it is up for grabs by anyone and everyone. and they were 12, 13, 14, ect. years old. so, i strongly believe that it is the younger "crowd" that has this problem. more so than people in their late teens and older.

and while it is true that createblog is populated by mostly young (real YOUNG!) people, i think it should still be a site that strives to set an example. "layout" sites and other graphics/design websites are popping up everywhere, every second online. and createblog still remains to be one of the few that people remember. and use often. and use as inspiration. so, i think that buckling down on the whole copyright and stealing issue would REALLY prove to help the entire amateur design community in one way or another.

as for the credit field suggestion. i still stand by it 100%. i'm arrogant enough to say that it is a good and much needed suggestion. even if people do have a single list they use each time they submit something, they will be giving credit and setting an example. and giving credit really shouldn't be seen as a bad thing. it's really NOT saying that you didn't have the creativity and ability to create something entirely on your own. it's simply saying that you were inspired by something. and inspiration should never be something that people refuse to acknowledge. afterall, this is a community dedicated to graphic design and layout design. innovation and design are things that are always made up of various sources, inspirations, and usually even artists. and i think adding a credit field would be a nice step towards sophistication and a little "growing up" here on createblog.

[Andrew2]

Yeah, pardon my rambling...BTW: I made a new username :D

Um, I do that alot.

And yeah, that was actually very fast to reject that stuff, This should be done more Often.

[GREASEbaby]

^And who are you? I'd like to know

[technicolour]

Yeah, pardon my rambling...BTW: I made a new username :D

Um, I do that alot.

And yeah, that was actually very fast to reject that stuff, This should be done more Often.

Who the heck are you? I mean that in a nice way.

[Andrew2]

Uh...I dont know? Andrew2. The one and only!
www.myspace.com/andrew2
www.myspace.com/contacttables
www.myspace.com/_makeitbang

[GREASEbaby]

Introduce yourself in the introduction forum, this is the wrong forum to do that in.

[technicolour]

If you want to make an introduction there is the introduction subforum down below

[Andrew2]

I'm not introducing myself, Did you guys NOT just ask me who I was?

[technicolour]

Well, you just posted randomly "I made a new username"..

What was you u/n before?

[Andrew2]

CRASH.NUCLEARCENTURY.COM

:-|

She said I rambled, and thne I made a new username and replied to what she said. And I explained I got a new username. :(

[technicolour]

Oooh Okay. I getcha now.


Sorry. It just seemed random.

[GREASEbaby]

Oh, lol. That explains. I had an idea because you mentioned your rambling.

I'm just a tad slow though. xD

[technicolour]

Oh, lol. That explains. I had an idea because you mentioned your rambling.

I'm just a tad slow though. xD

You and I both.

[nothing_plus_thi...]

i made this topic a poll. why? because i figure it will be interesting. why else.

[technicolour]

A poll about what exactly?


Ooh that. Crediting thing.

[nothing_plus_thi...]

well. yeah. considering that became the main focus of the thread a few posts back.

[Andrew2]

I too am a Fan of Threadless & Naked&Angry...they are ran by the same people. I just think the layouts below should get removed, because, well...They are plainly using graphics from those Sites. :)


Threadless: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=10527

Threadless: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13514

Naked&Angry: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=12178

[Blaqheartedstar]

nothing_plus_this i have to say u did an amazing job with the links
and yes it sucks major a$$ that people can't used their own and have to submit the exact same image they took on CB...

[technicolour]

I too am a Fan of Threadless & Naked&Angry...they are ran by the same people. I just think the layouts below should get removed, because, well...They are plainly using graphics from those Sites. :)
Threadless: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=10527

Threadless: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13514

Naked&Angry: http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=12178

Someone already got to those.

[*Kathleen*]

Uhh sorry. I know I'm interjecting here, and I agree with nothing plus this and everything (the credit/link thing whatever, that's an awsome idea), and this post of yours:

okay. i know that admin/mods are very busy and that they cannot keep track of every submission. i just think that some of the things, particularly graphics, are very obviously images that have not been created by anyone on createblog.

but anyway. since i understand the time constraints and pressures of the admin here on cb, i took some of my time to go through some of the sections. let's start with graphics.

i went through every single page of graphics. and here are the submissions i found that were stolen/jocked/whatever. i'm sure there are lots more. but these were the ones i absolutely KNEW where the originals came from.

(i made this list in editpad as i went along, and i really don't feel like making all the links...well, links. so. copy and paste, yeah?

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=9579
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/11344458/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=11002
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/224575...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=8267
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/331640...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=7883
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19194080/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=4391
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19967666/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=5665
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/522882...me+-in%3Ascraps
or: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/833876...me+-in%3Ascraps

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=984
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17233172/

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=306
taken from: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=306

http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=1162
taken from: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/30259794/
and besides those, i found several submissions that were submitted 2 & three times. so, i'm assuming that no one here on cb made them and that they are from somewhere else and that no one had permission to take credit for them as their own work.

this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=3491
is the same as this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=5924

this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=6346
is the same as this: http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=9673
and then! there are the ones that i cannot track down the originals of, but i KNOW they were not created by anyone (that i KNOW of) here on cb. yet, here they are! submitted, accepted, and being stolen.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=2051 - from threadless.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=11406 - from naked and angry.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=2711 - from deviantart. is no longer in the gallery it was in. i had it in my favourites. but, i honestly can't remember if it was stock or not. asklgh.
http://www.createblog.com/graphics/download.php?id=328 - from naked and angry.

I know that Kristina rejected them all (*high five* ), but am I the only one that can uhh spot these ones out without even visiting DeviantArt? I mean.. I guess again, my bad with the lack of confessing this beforehand, but I guess I got inspired by the recent jocking of my current layout (AND MY GODDAMN ABOUT ME SECTION [/rant]). I don't know. Perhaps before accepting.. we should either do something about looking into the actual user? I mean, I understand that they could possibly be the actual artist themselves, but the chances are unlikely, as aforementioned.

You're probably thinking that I'm crazy, because you guys see so many submissions in one day (trust me, I've been there). I'm merely suggesting something in that route. I mean, my brain's a bit.. off at four in the morning, but I think we should look into stock photos or "graphics" that are submitted here beforehand.. or something. I don't know.. it's just that A LOT of those stock photos used in layouts and designs have the same kind of style to it.. and then they're submitted by absolute nobodies. That word looks odd, and there's no definition for it on Google, but you know what I mean.

So yeah.. I don't know.. did anyone understand that?

[demolished]

i spotted unoriginal one with credit. why are you including that?

btw, i did not read the whole topic.

[Andrew2]

Someone already got to those.

Yet they aren't removed :(

[nothing_plus_thi...]

i spotted unoriginal one with credit. why are you including that?

btw, i did not read the whole topic.

i am assuming you are referring to my list... well. if i did happen to include one that did indeed give credit. it was because whatever image they used...was not meant to be used by anyone.

i know this was meant to be said earlier in the topic, but just because credit is given, you plan on giving credit, or you always give credit when you take images from other sites...it still does not mean you are allowed to take them. copyright is copyright. stealing is stealing. by giving credit, you are simply announcing that you are stealing to everyone. which brings me to this: the point of the credit field, once again, would be for people using available and legal materials to give the credit a majority of resource sites require. (and deserve!!!).

as for what kathleen had to say, yes. i knew absolutely right away that what i listed was from deviantart (the time consuming and frustrating part came with having to track down each original image). my sister and i both have accounts on da and have for a few years now. so i'm definitely familiar with the popular pieces. which is what people always seem to steal. which makes no sense to me, personally. i mean. if you're going to go right out and steal something without even thinking twice. you should at least think it out a little and steal something a little less wellknown.

and, i also want to reiterate that...being INSPIRED is not the same as taking an exact image. for anyone just popping in to get the gist of this thread and gets scared that their obviously inspired works are going to be picked on and deleted. i would never pick on a piece that is truly inspired. i think that is a tribute and admirable for the most part. to recreate part of something you admire, on your own from scratch, is a very rewarding task for most people. and i understand the urge to share that with others. i'm just not entirely sure where i stand on supplying such things to the general public under the false pretense that it came straight, 100% out of your own head. AGAIN, credit should be given and your inspirations should be listed. so other people may have the chance to experience them as you did. it is a good thing. it is just another part of sharing. what this entire community is about.

[*mona lisa*]

Yet they aren't removed :(

You can still see them? I removed those three yesterday.
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I sometimes recognize submissions from deviantART. I don't browse through it as much as I used to before, but I've noticed that most deviations have a thick border with a name or website. I've seen a few like those in the queue and rejected them right away.
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And yes, we have to stress that when you give credit, you should be using resources that are meant to be used. That as well as getting some form of permission allowing you to use it if the designer says something like 'ask me if you want to use it for ____'.

[Andrew2]

Yeah i can see those 3 layouts fine and dandy.



hah.

[*Kathleen*]

Okay, yeah I just read all of that. And uhh for the record, I've been on DA about twice in my entire life.. I was talking about how the popular pieces (as you said) are pretty easy to spot. Like I said, a NOBODY on this site who submits an ehh-ish layout that has.. not much actual design to it (other than copy, resize, and paste with some color) is obviously stealing someone else's.

[nothing_plus_thi...]

yeah.. i imagine i tried to say that earlier. or something along those lines. but, the whole "big players on devart would never submit to createblog" thing came out first. it still sounds mean to me. but, i swear. i don't mean it like that.

[Andrew2]

yeah.. i imagine i tried to say that earlier. or something along those lines. but, the whole "big players on devart would never submit to createblog" thing came out first. it still sounds mean to me. but, i swear. i don't mean it like that.

I don't think it's mean if it's the truth. Createblog wasn't made for those people, cus those people are looking to get the word out on who they are..While createblog was intended for a resource site to get stuff from...I hope that doesn't sound mean either but, you know. :-/

Each site was created with different intentions, and those viewers go their for those intentions. :)

[demolished]

i am assuming you are referring to my list... well. if i did happen to include one that did indeed give credit. it was because whatever image they used...was not meant to be used by anyone.

i know this was meant to be said earlier in the topic, but just because credit is given, you plan on giving credit, or you always give credit when you take images from other sites...it still does not mean you are allowed to take them. copyright is copyright. stealing is stealing. by giving credit, you are simply announcing that you are stealing to everyone. which brings me to this: the point of the credit field, once again, would be for people using available and legal materials to give the credit a majority of resource sites require. (and deserve!!!).

as for what kathleen had to say, yes. i knew absolutely right away that what i listed was from deviantart (the time consuming and frustrating part came with having to track down each original image). my sister and i both have accounts on da and have for a few years now. so i'm definitely familiar with the popular pieces. which is what people always seem to steal. which makes no sense to me, personally. i mean. if you're going to go right out and steal something without even thinking twice. you should at least think it out a little and steal something a little less wellknown.

and, i also want to reiterate that...being INSPIRED is not the same as taking an exact image. for anyone just popping in to get the gist of this thread and gets scared that their obviously inspired works are going to be picked on and deleted. i would never pick on a piece that is truly inspired. i think that is a tribute and admirable for the most part. to recreate part of something you admire, on your own from scratch, is a very rewarding task for most people. and i understand the urge to share that with others. i'm just not entirely sure where i stand on supplying such things to the general public under the false pretense that it came straight, 100% out of your own head. AGAIN, credit should be given and your inspirations should be listed. so other people may have the chance to experience them as you did. it is a good thing. it is just another part of sharing. what this entire community is about.

i agreed what you say.

Specifically, i was referring to this one; http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=9579

as you mentioned, giving credit is announcing to everyone that you steal it, right?

[Andrew2]

i agreed what you say.

Specifically, i was referring to this one; http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=9579

as you mentioned, giving credit is announcing to everyone that you steal it, right?

I think if they credited free stock/resources to use, then it's okay but yeah..Crediting Artwork you used in your stuff is a good way to let people know where you stole it from