Terrorist plot stopped, Targetting USA and UK Options

[*kryogenix*]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html

No more liquids can be carried on planes now.

[ItsAMansWorld]

no carry on luggage... that's crazy

[*kryogenix*]

I was beginning to wonder if the discussion of pirates vs ninjas was more important than this.

[danginja]

Pirates vs Ninjas affect the very safety of our fragile little minds....

just what we need...more terrorist plots...why can't they just stop for about 30 years =(

[ghjgfkgfk]

sopped? do you mean stopped? because i didnt know sopped was a word

[*Kathleen*]

Wow. I just saw this on the news this morning. That's just.. terrible. I can't imagine what it'll be like in the future if we continue to restrict more and more things at this pace.

[yummy_delight]

When are they going to stop? Not until every last member of Western civilization is dead dead dead, I bet. This makes me sick.

I wish we could all get along and stop wanting to kill each other.

[jue]

A U.S. administration official said the plot targeted Continental, United, British Airways and American Airlines flights to New York, Washington and California.

oh wow. if it wasn't stopped it might have hitted where I am.

[*yrrnotelekktric*]

no carry on luggage... that's crazy

that is crazyyyy!

[technicolour]

This is why someone needs to come up with teleportation already.

[*yrrnotelekktric*]

^hahaahahah. seriously!
imagine all the fossil fuels we`d save

[radhikaeatsraman]

No more hair gel, water or lotion? NO CARRY-ON LUGGAGE?

THAT'S CRAZY!

[Smoogrish]

oh wow. if it wasn't stopped it might have hitted where I am.

Yeah, me too. That's really scary.

But seriously, I feel bad for the people in the airport right now. If they're taking connecting flights.. they must be really late. And no carry-on luggage too!

[danginja]

Hello..Ninjas poof...America arn't ready for ninjas if there not ready for terrorists.

[*mona lisa*]

No water or carry-on luggage? Wow. All these restrictions are just going to make terrorists devise another way to get bombs across, if anyone attempts it again. Thank God the plot was stopped in time... I don't even want to think about what could've happened if it wasn't.

[Smoogrish]

But what if something got through? For all we know, the terrorists could be packing plastic explosives or they could have smuggled it through another way. That would be pretty darn horrible.

[Mr. Slowjamz]

I could never imagine how far and short-sighted our government is on controlling international secutiry , peace and violence . President Bush says the terror plot is a "stark reminder" the U.S. is "at war with Islamic fascists. Hello there ?! ......direct pinpoint >> direct recruitment . once you blame on specific people ...the more hate you will get . and the more participation will get.

[smoke]

This is why someone needs to come up with teleportation already.

Yeah. Then they can just teleport their whole terrorist army straight into the white house.

[technicolour]

Yeah. Then they can just teleport their whole terrorist army straight into the white house.

Oye. We could do like the Stargate thing. Type in your indentification code thing before they let you through.

Why would they go to the white house anyways? Nothing but ltos of fancy carpet and pillows. And old people. Oh, and Bush.

[AnnahhbeL]

No more liquid..huh.
See what the people will do.

[demolished]

you know what sucks in the ktla news.

someone brought a really expensive perfume as a gift. sadly, they dumped in the trash bin.

it's so sadddddddddd ;[ gifts becomes trash.

[Blank-OuT]

All these new restrictions suck, but it's better to be safe than sorry. How exactly was this plot supposed to work? I didn't get to read the whole thing lol.

[clarity]

Don't count on me to be 100% right, I'm relaying this all out of memory.

An innocent looking sports drink was brought on board, and inside was a liquid explosive that was known to be something called the "Mother of Satan" or something. They dyed it red to make it look like a sports drink. The detonator would have been a disposable camera. They would have used the flash of the camera to spark it. Or something like that.

wow thats pretty smart.
but how did they get caught?

[*Azarel*]

wow thats pretty smart.
but how did they get caught?

"An undercover British agent infiltrated the group, giving the authorities intelligence on the alleged plan, several U.S. government officials said."

[EddieV]

THis made my job yesterday really hard, since guests at the hotel are staying for an extra night.

[starlette]

Hey at least they caught them. :/

[clarity]

Hey at least they caught them. :/

thats true.. & at least it didn't go off.

[*ECD & C0*]

yeah i heard this driving down to the beach yesterday but its for the best you would rater be mad then dead

in England all you can carry is one clear pleastic bag with your ticket, keys, baby formula, [if you have a baby] and meds. a kid can't even bring juice or water and women have to leave their purses behind.

[clarity]

a kid can't even bring juice or water

Now thats just messed up.

[*My Cinderella.*]

Don't count on me to be 100% right, I'm relaying this all out of memory.

An innocent looking sports drink was brought on board, and inside was a liquid explosive that was known to be something called the "Mother of Satan" or something. They dyed it red to make it look like a sports drink. The detonator would have been a disposable camera. They would have used the flash of the camera to spark it. Or something like that.

^ Yikes.

[DarkImpressions]

I dont know whether that is a crazy idea for them to stop letting people carry liquids and stuff on planes.

[xlilaznchickx]

No more hair gel, water or lotion? NO CARRY-ON LUGGAGE?

THAT'S CRAZY!

^ i know it totally sucks..i wonder how long this is going to last..

[demolished]

how are we going to take our PILLS?!! we NEED WATER !!@##@#

[*mona lisa*]

If you have proper medication, I'm sure a strewardess would give you a cup of water... They can't deny you that. You just can't take liquids onto the plane.

[Gigi]

Tell me about it.

I was scheduled for a flight to Hong Kong that very day, and I waited in line for security for at least an hour and a half. Just because people were dumping out all the liquids in their bags.

My bottle of water wasn't even spared.

I'll just get something straight, though.

Water and beverages were served on the plane. Also, baby formula and any liquids you required with a prescription were allowed, also.

You just weren't allowed to bring any along WITH you, so even the restaurants and food court weren't allowed to sell you bottles of liquids, only beverages with open tops (i.e., cups). No lotion, either, so I went into the nearest Duty Free beforehand to rehydrate my hands with lotion.

I put any existing, more important liquids from my carry-on baggage into my check-in baggage. So my perfume didn't go to waste. =)

[*Zatanna*]

I didn't want to make a new topic, since this relates to airport security - but -

Air security relaxed after alert
All UK airports have now relaxed the restrictions on hand luggage introduced in the wake of Thursday's alert over a possible terror plot.

The new guidelines - which allow one item of hand luggage the size of a laptop computer bag - were delayed until Tuesday at Heathrow and Gatwick.

Most airports have reported business as usual, while 45 flights were cancelled at Heathrow, the worst-affected.

Airport operator BAA has said searches mean delays are likely to continue.

Meanwhile, a senior policeman has criticised calls for screening of passengers for likely terrorist types.

Metropolitan Police Chief Superintendent Ali Dizaei said such a move could create an offence of "travelling whilst Asian".

Passengers had been banned from taking anything into aircraft cabins except travel documents, baby food and certain medicines, all of which had to be carried in clear plastic bags.

The bag they can now take should be no bigger than 45cm x 35cm x 16cm (17.7 × 13.7 x 6.2 inches), including wheels, handles, and side pockets.

But people are still not allowed to take in any liquids apart from baby milk and baby food, and prescription medicines.

BAA said anyone travelling over the next few days should allow extra time for their journey.

The airport operator has come under fire from several airlines who have been highly critical of the way it has managed its airports during the upheaval.

British Airways has said it may sue BAA, but Virgin Atlantic called on BAA, airlines and the government to sit down and discuss who should "pick up the cost" of the terror alert.

BA boss Willie Walsh has attacked BAA's management, saying it had "no adequate plan" to deal with the emergency.

He told the Daily Mirror that the resulting queues resembled a "bad dream at Disneyland".

Paul Charles, from Virgin Atlantic, talking about the situation at Heathrow and Gatwick, said: "The delays are less and the queues are less. It is clear some of the measures put in place are working.

"There is no doubt that the picture is better from a passenger perspective."

He said Virgin Atlantic was running a normal service, adding that it had been a frustrating few days "because we have been forced to cancel a handful of flights we would otherwise be running normally".

On Tuesday, a total of 45 flights were cancelled at Heathrow - one Jet Airways flight and 44 British Airways. Of BA flights, this includes four long-haul services, 21 short-haul and 16 domestic flights.

On Monday, the majority of flights got away on time, said a BAA spokeswoman.

We travelled home with a distressed baby and had to smash a window to get into our house
Marie Henley

At Gatwick 11 flights have been cancelled - all on BA domestic routes - while at Stansted there have been eight cancellations of Ryanair flights.

Elsewhere, airports including Birmingham, Newcastle, Manchester, Edinburgh and Glasgow were reporting business was mostly back to normal after the less stringent measures were introduced on Monday.

The Times reports that transport officials are considering "passenger profiling", where airlines identify people who, on grounds of such things as conduct or appearance, they believe could pose a risk to security.

They are then subjected to more questioning or greater surveillance.

Metropolitan Police Chief Superintendent Ali Dizaei said intelligence might be able to shed light on people's travel history, where they bought tickets, and the persistency of travel.

But he told BBC Two's Newsnight: "It becomes hugely problematic when it's based on ethnicity, religion and country of origin. I don't think there's a stereotypical image of a terrorist."

BAA's Tony Douglas said the airline industry had faced a "national security challenge" on an "unprecedented scale" in the past few days.

He said the situation was becoming more stable, with improved punctuality of flights at Heathrow and fewer cancellations.

But police at Gatwick have said there has been an increase in thefts from passenger baggage in transit during the recent security alert.

I'm glad to see security measures in place, and we can never be too careful with our lives
Maria, New York City

Eight passengers on outbound flights reported items stolen from bags in the hold since the increased security measures began, compared with just one theft over the same period last year.

There have also been 52 reported thefts from inbound flights over the last five days, compared to 16 at the same time last year.

Meanwhile, police investigating the suspected plot to blow up transatlantic flights have found a handgun and a rifle in searches.

Police are continuing to search woodland near High Wycombe, while officers have also carried out searches at two internet cafes 18 miles away in Slough.

Thames Valley Police said extra officers had now been drafted in to guard against any "misguided backlash" in Slough.

Twenty-three people are in custody in connection with the suspected plot. Their detentions will be reviewed by a district judge on Wednesday.

The UK security threat level was raised to "critical" last week amid fears of a plot. On Monday it was downgraded to "severe", meaning an attack is now considered highly likely but not imminent.

Air security relaxed after alert
It does say that "But people are still not allowed to take in any liquids apart from baby milk and baby food, and prescription medicines," which I bring up because there was a concern about being able to take medicines and what not. At least, I think there was.

[*I Shot JFK*]

This happened on the same day that 40 of my classmates flew to sout africa... they were stuck at the airport for like 18 hours or something.

most tedious.

[dinoooRAWR]

Don't count on me to be 100% right, I'm relaying this all out of memory.

An innocent looking sports drink was brought on board, and inside was a liquid explosive that was known to be something called the "Mother of Satan" or something. They dyed it red to make it look like a sports drink. The detonator would have been a disposable camera. They would have used the flash of the camera to spark it. Or something like that.

crazzzzyyyyyy.

[think!IMAGINARIL...]

Hey, guess what? You can't bring electronics on either! How funny! HAHAHA.

I am so glad I decided not to take a plane to Boston tomorrow..

I really hope this problem gets fixed by next year, or else I'd be stuck on a 13 hour flight to Beijing with nothing to do..

[kimmytree]

NO ELECTRONICS? *dies*
.... what about my ipod? >.<

Better safe than sorry though. I dont see why anyone would need to bring water or beverages on a plane anyways... they serve plenty of refreshments. But who's to say some psyco terrorist wouldnt put some type of liquid explosive in their babys formula?

Does anyone know if the no carry-on luggage is for the United States too, or just England?