50,000 massacred in china Options

[AngryBaby]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireSt...9822&page=1
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A county in southwestern China has killed as many as 50,000 dogs in a government campaign ordered after three people died from rabies, official media reported Tuesday.

The five-day massacre in Yunnan province's Mouding county spared only military guard dogs and police canine units, the Shanghai Daily reported, citing local media.

Dogs being walked were taken from their owners and beaten on the spot, the newspaper said. Other killing teams entered villages at night, creating noise to get dogs barking, then honing in and beating them to death.

[Gypsy Eyes]

oh my god. I didn't think things like that happened anymore? Is anything being done about it?

By the way, the link doesn't work.

[Chii]

I read about this yesterday.
I think they kind of had good intentions because they wanted to protect their people from rabies but they definitely went about it the wrong way.

One of my co-workers was being a racist ass about this. Ugh, like I have any control over what people from China do just because I'm Chinese.

[Simba]

Dang I thought you meant 50,000 people. I was like woah.

Still pretty bad though.

[AngryBaby]

i know i messed up^ -__-

can some mod put dogs in there for me?

[Simba]

I believe you can edit it yourself you know.

[*jooleeah*]

T_T Oh man...how terrible.

In Taiwan, I'd see tons of dogs on the street with no home...and sdhfksjkfhs. Aw.

[*mipadi*]

Those Communist bastards.

[Gigi]

I remember when the HK government killed all the chickens when the bird flu was around.

We're using chicken flu methods to kill off rabies, now? Ridiculous.

oh my god. I didn't think things like that happened anymore? Is anything being done about it?

It's Mainland China we're talking about over here, where people die from fake baby formula, fake purple yams and fake sanitary napkins (okay, I'm not sure about people dying from the last one. But still, that's pretty nasty). Do you think they'd worry themselves over some dogs?

[bballchick1]

Omigod.

That is actually one of the saddest things I've seen in a while..it makes me think about my own dog. I can't imagine something like that happening in this day and age.

[lanbexx]

oh come on, would u rather have them try and take a hella long time trying to round up dogs in a orderly fashion, and get yelled at cause people started dying from rabies and they didnt work quick enough? its the most efficient method. brutal yes, but its the quickest way to contain the disease

[Gigi]

^ True, it is a quick, convenient way to contain a disease, but I can only see it justified as a last resort.
Chicken flu, aka H5N1, global epidemic? I can see that as justified. But rabies? A simple vaccination will prevent any symptoms from developing.

Even if this was a last resort, it could've been much more humane.

[alienshards]

I believe this is a sort of triage, or containment. A simple vaccine can prevent symptoms from manifesting, sure. However, I do not think this simple vaccine is widely avalbile in China. It is the same strategy used in wildfires. Simple and effective, yet costing nothing.

[Gigi]

^ Wildfires consist of things made of fibre. Rabies consist of living animals.

You can't compare the two.

[EddieV]

Well at least they got rid of the rabie problem, not in the most elegant way...

[*StanleyThePanda*]

Wow... that is horrible.

[kimmytree]

Awwwwwww.

I saw that on the AOL welcome screen yesterday... and regretted looking.

You'd think they'd find a more humane way of killing them. Instead of finding them and beating them, maybe giving them a shot to put them to sleep.

[Mr. Slowjamz]

wow ...talk about animal cruelty

[alienshards]

The way a wildfire and a virus spread is comparable. In both cases, removal of the fuel is the only effective way to halt a massive spread. In humans, this is done by vaccination. Because of the probable lack of vaccine, destruction of the animals was the only viable way to remove the fuel.

[aeroplane.]

Thats....horrible....

[pinacoolada]

That's sad!

[*yrrnotelekktric*]

nooooo ! thats soo sad !
that picture makes me want to
cry

[demolished]

There's a whole a lot of better idea than to slaughter these massive dogs.

They dont know which dogs had rabies. it doesnt give them the right to kill 'em off.

.... do people know how does dogs looks like .. w/ rabies?

o__o

[Gigi]

The way a wildfire and a virus spread is comparable. In both cases, removal of the fuel is the only effective way to halt a massive spread. In humans, this is done by vaccination. Because of the probable lack of vaccine, destruction of the animals was the only viable way to remove the fuel.

Hmm, let me think about that for a second.


Nope. Still not comparable.

[alienshards]

Both spreads can be modeled mathamatically by the avalible fuel and the rate of transmission, by similar forumlas.

The growth can be halted either by reducing transmissions or by reducing fuel.

When a house fire is fought, transmissions are reduced. In a hospital in a developed country, transmissions are reduced.

However, in a wildfire and an epidemic in a developing country, the fuel is the only thing that can be reduced.

They are comparable by mathmatical standards. They are dealt with in the same manners.

[Mr. Slowjamz]

you know , this is the reason why it confuses me between practicality , and sophistication. as too what is more effective . ex : U.S. spending 20-bill to incorporate a zero-gravity pen during the 1960`s in order to have some sort of wrting utensils , while the russians simply used pencils .

[Blank-OuT]

Wow, that's really messed up.. I have a dog myself and I wouldn't want anything like that happening to her.

[*liquidize*]

ROFL

Cmon, you guys never say what is on your mind really, that picture made you laugh right? Even though I am disgusted by the killing of so many dogs. The picture still lightened everything up!

[whomps]

That's horrible. Do you think the community of CB really needs to see something like that ? Is it going to make our day feel better ?

G'damn.

[alienshards]

Just because you ignore it doesn't make it better.

[demolished]

Both spreads can be modeled mathamatically by the avalible fuel and the rate of transmission, by similar forumlas.

The growth can be halted either by reducing transmissions or by reducing fuel.

When a house fire is fought, transmissions are reduced. In a hospital in a developed country, transmissions are reduced.

However, in a wildfire and an epidemic in a developing country, the fuel is the only thing that can be reduced.

They are comparable by mathmatical standards. They are dealt with in the same manners.

nature is completely different. i dont know.

wildfire spread fquickly at a fast rate base on the atomosphere.
wildfire are not preventable. it can happen to any form of nature, anywhere.
i mean, what can you prevent it ?
You cant block the forest from getting the sunlight from the sun.

[alienshards]

I'm not not refering to the source, but rather to the method in which both spread, and how both are contained.

[inn0c3ntm0nk3y]

oh come on, would u rather have them try and take a hella long time trying to round up dogs in a orderly fashion, and get yelled at cause people started dying from rabies and they didnt work quick enough? its the most efficient method. brutal yes, but its the quickest way to contain the disease

Well how about we go kill every one we see to contain the flu.

Gah... people these days act like animals are just inanimate objects to throw away. Imagine getting painfully killed kust because someone you don't even know has a spreading disease.
That's how the dogs feel.

[alienshards]

In a pandemic, that is exactly what must be done. Certainly, the people would be vaccinated instead of killed, and only people who had contact with an infected person, and the people they had contact with.

However, with dogs, you cannot question them to see what other dogs they have contacted. Therefore, you must assume that all the dogs in a certain area have had contact. As I have said, in a developed nation, vaccination would be the preferred method. However, I doubt china has the vaccinese to vaccinate 50,000 dogs, and therefore the only option was to destroy the animals.

[inn0c3ntm0nk3y]

In a pandemic, that is exactly what must be done. Certainly, the people would be vaccinated instead of killed, and only people who had contact with an infected person, and the people they had contact with.

However, with dogs, you cannot question them to see what other dogs they have contacted. Therefore, you must assume that all the dogs in a certain area have had contact. As I have said, in a developed nation, vaccination would be the preferred method. However, I doubt china has the vaccinese to vaccinate 50,000 dogs, and therefore the only option was to destroy the animals.

To question people still takes time. And esp with rabies, there are obvious signs. And it's not right to kill all the dogs. Come on now, they took people's dogs that were being walked. The walking dogs were perfectly fine walking on a leash along side their owner. Give me one good reason to kill that certain dog. I mean if a dog's coming at you with rabies, that's another story. But to kill someone's dog that they're walking.

[alienshards]

It does not take that much time to question people, since the virus needs a week or two to become contagious. Please realize this is exactly the technique used to eradicate smallpox. I am not making this up.

In this situation, however, it was impossible to question the dogs, and no vaccine was avalible, leaving only one option.

And yes, pets would be suspect to exposure as well.

You must realize that rabies can take over a year to manifest. A year is a long time to be watching for a rabid dog. You may decide your pet dog could not have rabies and leave him alone with a child, and then the symptoms set in.

[*T0rmented_Soul*]

^ I gotta agree with you on that one bro. just about the words I was going to say.

[Jeng]

POOR DOGS!!!! omg. how could theyyyy

[*mipadi*]

you know , this is the reason why it confuses me between practicality , and sophistication. as too what is more effective . ex : U.S. spending 20-bill to incorporate a zero-gravity pen during the 1960`s in order to have some sort of wrting utensils , while the russians simply used pencils.

You just got suckered in by a myth. That story isn't true.

[jue]

Thats messed up to the dogs. That could've been used as a last last last resort. Poor dogs