cB layouts have gone to the dogs. Options

[radhikaeatsraman]

MySpace layouts in particular. Here are examples:

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13386
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13385
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13384
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13383
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13382
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13364
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13299
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13181

What the hell? How on earth did those get through the queue? Those are piss poor. And those aren't even all of them! It's basically taking an image from Google, adding a few brushes, putting it through a generator, adjusting the code a little and submitting it. Is that what cB layouts have come to be? Has our design staff become a bunch of rubber stamps? (Not trying to attack you, but look at those layouts!) Please, prove me wrong.

If need be, please add more links.

[*nightmare4taki*]

I can't make layouts.

[radhikaeatsraman]

Thank you for your insight, KC. -_-

[iDecay]

I love you, Radhika.

I've noticed that a lot of these were horrible, too.

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13197
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13189
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=12876
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=12845
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=12820 (Yeah, sure it's a div, might have taken a while. I still think it's horrible. Bad image quality, too.)

I'd list more, but I think you get the point. Anyone can basically just get these images off google and go mess around with a generator and TA-DA! Get that layout.

[*mzkandi*]

Thanks for bringing this up. This was an issue brought up not too long ago in which I said:

Another thing I have taken note of is that some of you are not satisfied with the quality of layouts that have been accepted and I can agree because I have a had to go back reject several that have already been accepted. We all know that those staff members that can accept layouts and graphics have their different standards but it's always important to remember quality over quanity as Jusun said to me when mentioning this issue a while back. I hope those staff members take note of this feedback and work on it.

If anything use these layouts as examples of what not to accept. Alot, if not all, do not meet up to cB standards and even micron has voiced concern about this. To those that can accept layouts and graphics and have accepted some of these, please step it up. We want to be a site known as having the best graphics and layouts around so accept only the best. You know, the layouts and graphics that show talent and hard work put into them. [/ pep talk]

[moninja]

I TOTALLY AGREE x48648648748648596486465415641 and more!

those layouts have really nothing unique about them, just about anyone can make them.
for example:
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13205
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13089
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13011
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13068

no offence or anything but i really don't know what's going thought the peoples' minds when they accept it.

[smoke]

I'd have to say I agree. It's hard to find a good layout anymore. You have to search and search and search. I'm not very good in making layouts (the reason I have not submitted any), and most of them I could make myself.

[*This Confession*]

well I didn't accept any of those, except one.

Two of them are gone from the first list because they shouldn't have been accpeted because of copyrights.

I will take in consideration of your opinions and thank you for them.'



PS
now that ive looked at some of them, I do agree that they shouldn't have been accepted. Some of them I think should have. Because theres nothing wrong with them, and its just your personal opinion that they look bad.

[*jooleeah*]

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=13383
^I actually sort of liked that one. :x

But you're right, cB is pretty much known for having "better than average" and good quality layouts, and lately it seems like the standard has lowered down a bit. I'm sure the mods will take note of this and start setting the standard higher.

[*This Confession*]

Setting the standard Higher

I already get chewed out by plenty of people everyday for not accepting their layouts. I go by the rules that were written already for submitting layouts, i'll reject any layouts that go against the rules.

[clarity]

my mistake.
sorry.

This post has been edited by Quarantine.: Aug 3 2006, 09:06 PM

[technicolour]

Okay. Seriously. Enough with these topics.They're getting old. PM someone with powers to take them down.

Yes, the feedback is nice, but the gazillion topics about it? NOT COOL.

Just PM someone. Okay? Yeah, the layouts are, meh, but its not like anybody's ever really original anymore.


And those graphics, a lot of those can be classified as "stock images", meaning, they can be altered. They're not just for use as is.

[*This Confession*]

^Yea I agree.

Everyones getting in their little up roars ever since this Hiring session has started.



Quarantine. - I do agree with you about some of those graphics, its been solved.
Some on the other hand are just your opinion that they shouldn't be accepted when there really isn't anything wrong with some.

Same goes for all the layouts, although some really shouldn't have been accepted.

[radhikaeatsraman]

Well, you're staff, do something about it. REMOVE THEM. Please.
Graphics =/= stock images.

kthx.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well then, what is the section for Photos for, if not for photos to use in graphics?

[technicolour]

You haven't exactly given anyone good enough reason to move them.

Crappy, is apparently all the rage.

[*This Confession*]

Well when people submit pictures of themselves I tell them that we have a nice picture forum that they can go to and chat away and post their pictures.

We also have a art subforum that people also should know about.


Crappy and Unoriginal stuff is all the rage, haha.

[clarity]

^ that was basicly my point.
i'd define them as personal pictures.
like.. pictures you'd put on your myspace.

[*jooleeah*]

Setting the standard Higher

I already get chewed out by plenty of people everyday for not accepting their layouts. I go by the rules that were written already for submitting layouts, i'll reject any layouts that go against the rules.

.....

I wasn't trying to piss you off or anything by saying "setting the standard higher". And I definitely wasn't complaining about this problem, either. I'm sorry if it came off that way...

I personally think the stock images are useful and nice...as long as they don't take up most of the graphics section.

[technicolour]

I dont accept the pictures that look like they took it by themselves. Total myspace pictures.

If they look like some thought was given into them and could possibly be used in a graphic of some sorts, then I accept it.

[radhikaeatsraman]

Crappy is all the rage? NO.
Crappy is never 'all the rage.' By going by that standard, cB is becoming just like all the other sites. There are plenty of other places you can find stock images. Like I said, stock images ARE NOT graphics. If you want, you should create a seperate section for stock images. And btw Kristina, those images do not look like stock pictures. AT ALL. Those are pictures one would put on their MySpace. And those layouts? Sigh.

I'll edit this later. G'night.

[*This Confession*]

ehm night.

You know everyone is going to have a different opinion of what looks good as in layouts and what is bad. I mean some stuff is like hands down tacky. And thats why their not accepted more than likely.

We have rules that we go by for the layouts and I think everyone goes by them well when it comes to accepting and rejecting. I suppose anyway. Some I question a lot.


The layouts posted in here have been taken care of.

[technicolour]

You're kidding me right? Do you know how many topics people create asking for links to those stupid scriblly heart brushes? Or those stupid "gangster" brushes/fonts? ITS CRAPPY. AND EVERYONE FOR SOME PATHETIC REASON LIKES IT.

[*This Confession*]

Likes it dear^
not Lies..
=X

And its true, I know theres been more than 30 people ask for those brushes.

[technicolour]

Ah. Thank you.

But seriously. That whole gangta-colourful yet extremely tacky look everyone likes.


People who haven't been exposed to REAL graphics like the crappy stuff.

[*This Confession*]

Eh I hate to say this

Then why not just not accept that tacky ugly crap
and only accept the real stuff so they get their mind right.

[technicolour]

I don't accept the crappy stuff. Or at least try not to. I reject it in a heart beat. I don't even go near the layouts. Last time I did, yeah, that was bad. I stick with graphics.

[Gigi]

Yeah, cB was all about having a high standard of layouts. Now...we've sort of fallen to the public's obsession with shitty brushes and images and started accepting those, too.

I don't think it should be about how popular it's going to be with the layout-using public with bad taste, but rather, upping the standard and attracting the ones with good taste over here. I mean, if they want shitty layouts, then they shouldn't be appreciated here. Blogring, maybe, but not cB.

Just kidding. =)

[*This Confession*]

haha
yea..

I think most of us have a good head on our shoulders and know what were doing.

Everyone has different opinions. But I think we have plenty of sense to know what looks good and what doesn't.

[smoke]

haha
yea..

I think most of us have a good head on our shoulders and know what were doing.

Everyone has different opinions. But I think we have plenty of sense to know what looks good and what doesn't.

Yeah, I have faith in you guys. The layouts aren't that bad, but they used to be better.

[*StanleyThePanda*]

Yeah, I have faith in you guys. The layouts aren't that bad, but they used to be better.

Well if you saw the ones that are rejected, you would understand

but no, I mean.. I may go through and clean it out a bit.
If thats okay with everyone? just a but, like.. if I see anything that is absolutely horrific. haha

[demolished]

hopefully .. in the future. we'll ban the idea.

layouts are becoming popular.
i expect people to be better at it.

[*Azarel*]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74442
Uhm. Check out the actual layout preview. Self explanitory. ._.;

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76321
Where does your entry text go?

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=77404
The main image doesn't load.

[*digital.fragrance*]

I think Mods need to go through all of the skins and weed out the ones that don't function properly... or images don't load...

[iDecay]

^ Yeah, I think so too. I was going through the graphics earlier and there was someone with the same graphic twice. I'd be willing to help, if there is any help needed.

[*Azarel*]

I was going through old layouts to get a feel for how the skins have changed, and I noticed that a lot of the text/div alignment in the old layouts do not match up in firefox. But yeah, the few layouts I linked were pretty old. >>;

[*digital.fragrance*]

^ I think it would be too hard to elminate for browser compatibility.... sure, it can be done, but that would eliminate A LOT of FABULOUS layouts that classic people made - it'd be too sad.

I think we have to determine which ones don't work at all - by double checking them in both FF and IE browsers

[*This Confession*]

^in the rules if you actually go check
All layouts don't have to work in all browsers.

it isn't required.


http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=77057


its desired but not required.
So we can't hold it against the people if they don't work in both browsers.

[*digital.fragrance*]

^ right, I know that - but there are some that don't work at all

[*This Confession*]

well then someone needs to message one of the design staffs and give us the links and someone will take care of it

I think someone said that earlier

[*digital.fragrance*]

^ K... but for example - hte OLD Xanga layouts... some of them are well... yeah
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=117
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=120

[*This Confession*]

Okay, well any other ones you can just PM them to me or I suppose you can post them in here, I'll take care of them for now


I'm going through all the layouts actually now
But if I miss any you can tell me

This may take a few hours

[*digital.fragrance*]

^ wish I could help

[*mona lisa*]

I've gone into the Graphics section many times to reject any that, in my opinion, are below standard and I'm pretty fair when it comes to that. But it takes such a long time. Not just because of how long the queue is but the number of pages of graphics already submitted, and I mean every category. You also have to deal with the large number of people bitching and cursing about why their graphic was rejected. -__-

I'm going to make my trips to the graphics section more regular. But yes, PM a mod or post in here if it's a long list.

[happinessx]

Heh, wow you guys are pretty fierce. ._.

[*digital.fragrance*]

^ we have to be, or else cB will cease to be known for quality graphics/layouts

[*lolita kitty*]

People who haven't been exposed to REAL graphics like the crappy stuff.

Well I'm pretty sure that all of the design staff have been exposed to real graphics, so why are they accepting these crappy layouts?

I think the solution is simple. The mods just need to be more strict when it comes to accepting layouts, and set higher standards. Otherwise, as Rachael said, cB will cease to be known for quality graphics/layouts.

[Blaqheartedstar]

waaa seems that two of my layouts hit the list.... i mean if its THAT bad... i will remove them

[GREASEbaby]

I agree 110% with what other people have said.

createBlog simply needs to higher standards.

And I will, if it would be appreciated, collect links of images and layouts that don't deserve to be here.

[radhikaeatsraman]

waaa seems that two of my layouts hit the list.... i mean if its THAT bad... i will remove them

Ooh. Sowwy. We didn't mean to attack anyone. It's just the quality of the layouts, that's all.

[Blaqheartedstar]

well the quality of the images has nothing to do me... i mean they are clear when i post them... but from it going from image shack to being rehosted here on the site it looses it quality.... and if i go and replace the image url from where i originally hosted the image.. sooner or later the image will exceed bandwidth...

and if its not that and just the layout its self.. i'm sorry and will remove it... i mean i have seen a few REALLY bad layouts... and wonder how they get passed... but thats not on me

[demolished]

recently, i discover the most attractive layouts that trigger many members.

Look at that !
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...p;#entry2218560

It's very impressive.

bad layouts = should not be accepted.

[mylittleMiracle]

i agree with you...thats why i need to spend loads of time finding layouts.=\

[*Zatanna*]

Guys -
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...p;#entry2225365

This was posted yesterday and believe me, the Staff was up wayyy late working on this and will continue to do so.

The goal here is to achieve excellence and to raise cB standards. :)

[Blaqheartedstar]

recently, i discover the most attractive layouts that trigger many members.

Look at that !
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...p;#entry2218560

It's very impressive.

bad layouts = should not be accepted.

ok if stuff like that gets accepted... then what about the layouts that were there and had their small share of fame??

i had three ... and two got rejected... i mean i'm not bashing the staff i understand the reason for the update
but if the whole what gets accepted and what doesn't is starting to confuse me...

[*StanleyThePanda*]

^ Don't be confused, just go read the requirements for layouts.
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=1329925

Any layouts that are rejected are because they dont meet the requirements.
A lot of the older layouts were made by generators, its just that the older design staff didnt know what to look for in the codes.
So while we were cleaning out, like I said, we just rejected the layouts that didnt meet the requirements.

[xklipse]

oohh, this explains why some of my layouts & graphics were rejected. meh. I didn't liked them much neither.

Though I understand that some didn't fit the requirements, but few layouts (by other members) that were somewhere on top of downloads & favorites were gone also. I mean, they aren't as pretty or perfect, but people liked them, isn't that what cB is all about? the community?

[*ECD & C0*]

rawtheekuh.

i dont see you submiting anything

oohh, this explains why some of my layouts & graphics were rejected. meh. I didn't liked them much neither.

Though I understand that some didn't fit the requirements, but few layouts (by other members) that were somewhere on top of downloads & favorites were gone also. I mean, they aren't as pretty or perfect, but people liked them, isn't that what cB is all about? the community?

thats what im saying i had one with 107 favorties rejected and another with 99 wow they dont care about what people like only what they like thats what i have noticed

[demolished]

You're just mad because your work was rejected.
at least, you have some work that are reserved here. Calm down.

It's not about what moderator dont like.
It's about rising the standard and cB's reputation for graphic.

[*ECD & C0*]

um ok so now i can't even be mad im just saying that a lot of stuff got rejected that shouldn't have not just my stuff even the most popular layout over 300 favorites was rejected i think that means something

[demolished]

um ok so now i can't even be mad im just saying that a lot of stuff got rejected that shouldn't have not just my stuff even the most popular layout over 300 favorites was rejected i think that means something

I'm not telling you not to be mad. I'm telling you to calm down.

Do you have proof that the layouts with over 300 favorites was rejected? Are you just assuming ? Did you pm the moderator about this? Let them know about the "favorites".

[clarity]

One of my avatars was rejected, but I now kind of see why.
I think it will be for the best that cB has higherstandards.

[iDecay]

rawtheekuh.

i dont see you submiting anything

Does she need to, huh? Not everyone can make layouts and graphics.

And so what if they were favorited 300 times? I've looked at past layouts that were just well, amazing, and they don't have anywhere near 50 favorites. Most of your layouts wouldn't fit my standards. I know they won't fit a lot of standards. Same with a lot of people here, too. We've talked about this multiple times in chat, and your layouts came into discussion.

- http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=11981 (What happened to the other 4 buttons on the contact table?)
- http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=13068 (WTF. Enough said.)

[*ECD & C0*]

im sorry i got a little carried away and you dont have to like my layouts but other people do

[Gypsy Eyes]

It doesn't matter how many people have added your layout to their favorites, if it doesn't meet the standards, it's gone. Honestly, the ones that I have seen from you don't come close. Try putting more time into them instead of submitting like 50.

[moninja]

^ agreed.
you just make the typical layouts that other layout makers can easily make. the favorties don't really mean anything. there's many other layouts that only have about one favorite of even none and i believe they look fantastic.

[GREASEbaby]

You guys, please stop arguing. She has the right to be upset. And, for the rest of you, please just keep it to yourself that you don't like ECD layouts.

Please.

[*StanleyThePanda*]

Actually, about 95% of the layouts I rejected where made by a generator.
I see where you are coming from, but ones with tons of downloads, or the 3000 that you speak of being submitted, a large majority of those are made my generators.
We have good reasoning for rejecting them...
We are just going by the requirements and doing our job.

[*StanleyThePanda*]

Yes, I understand. Thank you.
Your PM was long and thought out.
And you made a good point..
I was just stating, since so many people were mad, that a lot were generated.
It wasnt really directed to you, just kind of.. replying sorta.. if that makes sense.

[GREASEbaby]

Yes, but this is just new. I believe this is the first time we did a mass cleaning to createblog's contributions; you weren't informed that it was going to be rejected.

Many, so many layouts were...uh...crappy. They need to be gone, no matter if they spent five whole minute adjusting their stylesheet.

[demolished]

mean i know people are complaining about how the layouts have been looking. But the layouts you have gotten rid of have been downloaded and are still used in come myspaces. Yes, it's a no brainer to make most of those layouts, but just the fact that a person actually took the time to change the codes, and resizing and adjusting the photo to a perfect fit for the layout and then actually submitting this layout so people can use it, should show you how altruistic these people are.

Um. Staff members had the right to remove any layout. Designers don’t have to contribute to cb. No one forces any designer to promote. It’s a designer's choice. it's not the staff's fault to remove the layout due to the standard. i actually liked the idea that the moderator are doing their jobs because lately, i had see a bad-looking layout. Cb's standard is about the quality of layouts, not quantity or how much layout anyone submits. I could possibly submit an ugly layout with a lot of effort into it. Why? I’m not good with Myspace CSS. That’s why i prefer div myspace layouts because they are easier and require mainly basic foundation of css/html. Remember, it's about QUALITY layout.


if layouts are rejected, people should ... at least, take that as a consideration and encouragement. it will give us a better idea of how to make a better layout. if everyone can do that, cB will be well known for great graphics, inspiration, and etc. i think that's important becuase it inspired us to bring our true potiental.

When i was a beginner, i suck at making layouts. i didn’t have the proper knowledge of html and graphics. Guess what? i kept trying to make better layout. There are times when i wasn’t great at making layout. Therefore, i quitted.

Until, i was browsing through roxy/roxanne's xanga. i was amaze that she made such great xanga layouts. She was my inspiration which sparks my interests.

After that, I worked hard on making layouts, learning codes, memorizing css, and etc.

Here i am now, I consider myself a good designer.

Hard works paid off.

Whatever. You get the idea, right?

The layouts that you have deleted have already been approved by myspace staff. Both of my layouts that you've deleted was approved by roxanne. Roxanne as designer would not probably have approved the layouts i made if it wasnt up to par to her requirements, right?

i dont understand you.

When users contributed their work, they were not informed that they were going to be deleted because "people have been getting mad about how layouts have been looking lately". This isnt their fault, you should be thankful that 3000 layouts have been submitted so anyone could use it. It just bothers me that you actually would delete things that has already been approved by a staff member. For the 3000 layouts that you have been deleted, just try comprehend the minutes and the effort that has been used. No matter how brief a person worked on a single layout, It still adds up to a pretty big number.

Again, cb is about quality, not quantity. It’s not the staff's fault. It’s the designer's choice.
No one has to contribute to cb. They can just upload it on imageshack or somewhere. They can make their own website to promote free layouts, and etc.

so yeah, this part is pretty much the same as i told you before. (the first reply)

[*I Shot JFK*]

i dont understand you.

and here, i feel compelled to sing a song about irony...

[GREASEbaby]

Um. Staff members had the right to remove any layout. Designers don't have to contribute to cb. No one forces any designer to promote. It's a designer's choice. it's not the staff's fault to remove the layout due to the standard. i actually liked the idea that the moderator are doing their jobs because lately, i had see a bad-looking layout. Cb's standard is about the quality of layouts, not quantity or how much layout anyone submits. I could possibly submit an ugly layout with a lot of effort into it. Why? I'm not good with Myspace CSS. That's why i prefer div myspace layouts because they are easier and require mainly basic foundation of css/html. Remember, it's about QUALITY layout.


if layouts are rejected, people should ... at least, take that as a consideration and encouragement. it will give us a better idea of how to make a better layout. if everyone can do that, cB will be well known for great graphics, inspiration, and etc. i think that's important becuase it inspired us to bring our true potiental.

When i was a beginner, i suck at making layouts. i didn't have the proper knowledge of html and graphics. Guess what? i kept trying to make better layout. There are times when i wasn't great at making layout. Therefore, i quitted.

Until, i was browsing through roxy/roxanne's xanga. i was amaze that she made such great xanga layouts. She was my inspiration which sparks my interests.

After that, I worked hard on making layouts, learning codes, memorizing css, and etc.

Here i am now, I consider myself a good designer.

Hard works paid off.

Whatever. You get the idea, right?





i dont understand you.




Again, cb is about quality, not quantity. It's not the staff's fault. It's the designer's choice.
No one has to contribute to cb. They can just upload it on imageshack or somewhere. They can make their own website to promote free layouts, and etc.

so yeah, this part is pretty much the same as i told you before. (the first reply)

You stole the words out of my mouth.

[gelionie]

I think there should have been a longer period of notice beforehand. :('



Besides, you guys might need to check for the official designers and see if they still have the requirements after the mass-cleaning.

[GREASEbaby]

^Yes, we are looking at that too. We just can't really go through every official designers because we don't have a list of all the official designers :

If we, the staff, come across one, we will take a peek at their contributions.

[*Azarel*]

We just can't really go through every official designers because we don't have a list of all the official designers :

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...sort_order=desc

[*Zatanna*]

On the topic of cB Layouts having gone to the dogs, how does everyone feel after the House Cleaning project? I'm curious if the issue of quality still exists? (I'm sure it always will to an extent as taste and opinions differ, but overall).

[*Azarel*]

In general? Better.

The house cleaning threads in each of the resource forums could stand to be unpinned/deleted.

Also, question--do design moderators only look at the screenshot before accepting a layout, or do they actually make sure that the coding is valid? I ask because while the screenshot appears perfectly fine, the coding for this particular skin is.. pretty bad to the point where if you use the provided coding as is, the layout doesn't show up. :\

[gelionie]

As far as I remember, design mods can click on the preview link to see if the layout really works, and whether it matches with the screenshot or not.

[*Zatanna*]

Typically, yes. The designers will go through the code and will not approve a layout based on screenshot. If something gets missed, that's unfortunate but bound to happen, I suppose.

Thanks for the link, Anna.

[*digital.fragrance*]

In general? Better.

The house cleaning threads in each of the resource forums could stand to be unpinned/deleted.

Also, question--do design moderators only look at the screenshot before accepting a layout, or do they actually make sure that the coding is valid? I ask because while the screenshot appears perfectly fine, the coding for this particular skin is.. pretty bad to the point where if you use the provided coding as is, the layout doesn't show up. :\

It looks fine in IE for me...

Yeah, we click the layouts to make sure it actually works - there were a bunch that no longer worked because the blog went through a slight re-coding after it was submitted.

[*Azarel*]

It looks fine in IE for me...

Yeah, we click the layouts to make sure it actually works - there were a bunch that no longer worked because the blog went through a slight re-coding after it was submitted.

Like I said in that thread, come time to insert coding and view it on an actual livejournal, it does not work in either browser. Case in point: http://aznhellbringer.livejournal.com Mkay? 'kay.

[skt]

Woohoo! Late as ever!

Alright guys, pending everything. All joking aside,
everyone has to start from somewhere.

Crappy or not, taking down or not.
We were all fledgling beginners at one time.
(look at my sig!)
come on now!

Kumbya!

[technicolour]

And who the heck are you? ^

Like I said in that thread, come time to insert coding and view it on an actual livejournal, it does not work in either browser. Case in point: http://aznhellbringer.livejournal.com Mkay? 'kay.

Sometimes you have to have a website listed in your profile deal. Do you?

It doesn't work because it's made for Greatest Journal. Sure the coding looks the same but i'll be somewhere somehow LJ coding vs. GJ coding is different.

[*Azarel*]

It doesn't work because it's made for Greatest Journal. Sure the coding looks the same but i'll be somewhere somehow LJ coding vs. GJ coding is different.

GreatestJournal is based off of LiveJournal because LiveJournal is an open source project, but apparently it allows screwed up coding. :( Background doesn't appear on FF, but looks fine in IE on GJ (http://totalkaos.greatestjournal.com). Boo.

[technicolour]

Okay. It doesn't work. For livejournal. In both IE and FF.

So we should delete it then?

[*Libertie*]

Hmm.. Well, cross-browser compatible or not, this layout is pretty default for a livejournal skin and I'm not fond of the image work. =\ No offense to the designer, but I'm gonna say it needs to go.

[brietheexplorer]

How about, "If you don't like the layouts, don't use them!"
You can't tell me that none of you thought of that? Or are you just that stupid?

cB USERS are going to the dogs. >.>

[Gypsy Eyes]

We still want to keep it at a good quality. Even if we don't personally like the layout (ie: I hate anime layouts) we don't reject something on personal preference, only on quality.

Woohoo! Late as ever!

Alright guys, pending everything. All joking aside,
everyone has to start from somewhere.

Crappy or not, taking down or not.
We were all fledgling beginners at one time.
(look at my sig!)
come on now!

Kumbya!

Yes everyone can start somewhere, on their own xanga. That's what you can do to practice. Most designers did that as well.

[*Azarel*]

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/preview.php?id=14379

How.. why.. Hard to read, links not visible until hovered over, pretty defaultish..

[gelionie]

I didn't want to start a new topic... so I hope you guys don't mind me bumping this up.

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=15341
^ I find this Xanga layout quite default. It's not in the minimal section. I was just wondering it got accepted.

[*Infinite.*]

^nah its perfectly fine,

Eh I don't really accept xanga layouts since I don't know much behind it, I know most of the time graphically their not that great I'll try looking at the layout you put a link up for if this computer will let me

EDIT//

I find the xanga layout perfectly fine, it may be a bit defaultish but whats wrong with that? The colors are changed and the image above the tables is pretty and theres nothing really wrong with it. Perhaps wait for a xanga staff though.

[gelionie]

^ The left module is left completely intact.
If you look at the other xanga layouts, you'll get what I mean.

[*Infinite.*]

We have other layouts like that as well though,
http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=14914

[*StanleyThePanda*]

I didn't want to start a new topic... so I hope you guys don't mind me bumping this up.

http://www.createblog.com/layouts/download.php?id=15341
^ I find this Xanga layout quite default. It's not in the minimal section. I was just wondering it got accepted.

I like this layout, I didnt accept it, but I probably would've if I had seen it in the queue.
It may be default, yes, but the colors are great, and the banner looks really nice (also good quality).

Some default layouts are okay to accept, and long as they look good.

[*digital.fragrance*]

I accepted that one, and I agree with kara. Xanga layouts, like Myspace layouts, can look good with the default template.

[Heathasm]

i notice not all the layouts are going to be perfect do to people using different browsers and operating systems, that always gets on my nerves. i think cb should invest in a program like browsercam before they accept any layouts.

i also think iff you use images from google the site that you get it from should be linked as well

[gelionie]

Alrighty then.

Yea, I agree with Heather that some emphasis should be put in credit for images/brushes etc on layouts.