Rules... what constitutes PG-13, I don't understand... Options

[*Uronacid*]

Alright, ever since I have been on create blog people have been posting away, cussing, and making sexual passes at eachother... talking about spiting and swallowing and showing off their tits... I don't want to see this change, in fact... I think it's very intresting, but I think it's rediculous when topics like this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146208

:are closed, and are considered inapropriate. Topics like this, where someone is asking a question that if asked in a serious manner (which it was), and being a topic that does come up in a boys locker room, is deffinitly PG-13.

and topics like this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=113799

:are left open. Under-aged girls are posting pictures of their breasts on the internet while guys between the ages of 12-25 look and drool.

I mean, it just seems so rediculous. It pisses me off to see something so normal being discussed in a boy's locker room being discussed there, when admin's come along and close the topic... (I have nothing against the admin who did it)... Kathleen just jumps in there and posts about why the topic should be closed in big bold print. Why, is Kathleen jumping arounf in the boy's locker-room talking about why topics should be closed? I have no idea... why should girls have a say in what topics are inappropriate in the guys locker-room? Some topics that guys talk about are totally normal for them to talk about between each-other, and are deffinitly pg 13 if talked about in a serious manner... I don't see guys jumping from topic to topic in the girls locker room talking about how their topics should be closed... Look, personaly I think this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=143178
(btw, look what kathleen said in this topic)

isnt much different than this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146208

yet she totally bashs ours, and our topic gets the close-out... I mean, cmon

how about this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=143392

when you suck a penis, do you spit out the spunk or do you swallow it? Is this pg-13.... get real, you guys are so unfair to the guys locker room...

I have been meaning to bring this up for a while.. I guess I just never did, becuase I felt that you guys would just start closes all the intresting sexual topics out there... being a teenager, sex is one of the most intresting things that there is, and I don't want to see this aspect of create blog get taken away... All i want is for people to treat the boy's lockeroom with the same respect as the girls locker room... I think it's rediculous, how we are literally treated differently....

[no-name]

and topics like this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=113799

You know what's funny about that topic. A mod actually statred that topic and that is the 3rd topic like that

[Simba]

In that "In General" topic. I actually closed that because there were already topics out there on it, excusing that last question. As for the last question, in past topics it was deemed inappropriate. But then I guess this is why you made this post.

[*Uronacid*]

In that "In General" topic. I actually closed that because there were already topics out there on it, excusing that last question. As for the last question, in past topics it was deemed inappropriate. But then I guess this is why you made this post.

The topics that were brought up were about masterbation in general... not maturbation for GUYS ONLY. This is totaly different, and that is why it is not the same.... LOOK THE OLD ONE DOESNT EVEN CONTAIN A POLL!!! It was a mere conicidence that the gay/bi/straight thing was included, and as for the last poll beign inappropriate... WHAT SERIOUSLY DEEMS IT INAPPROPRIATE WHEN PEOPLE ARE MAKING TOPICS ABOUT SPITTING AND SWALLOWING SEMEN IN THE GIRLS LOCKER-ROOM. I don't have a problem with them making topics about that, but I do have a problem if they can post things like that, and we cannot.

Also, if you notice, I commented about the post recently made about mastubation in the girls locker-room (http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=143178). How come that wasn't closed... you mean to tell me that a mastubation topic was not created in the girls locker room until July 17th 2006?

You know what's funny about that topic. A mod actually statred that topic and that is the 3rd topic like that

Exactly!, if mods ar making topics where girls are posting pictures of there breasts while people drool over them... why can't we as guys share that kind of info with eachother...

[oXMuhNirvanaXo]

nvm I got confused. I think every one should have the same rights as every one else.

[*Uronacid*]

nvm I got confused. I think every one should have the same rights as every one else.

I agree.. this is rediculous...

[oXMuhNirvanaXo]

Exactly!, if mods ar making topics where girls are posting pictures of there breasts while people drool over them... why can't we as guys share that kind of info with eachother...


Buts its not like you can post a picture of a penis on here.

[*Azarel*]

Okay, first of all, let's establish that this thread was not closed because it was inappropriate; it was closed because it is a duplicate topic. The second thing we should establish is that both the boys' locker and the girls' locker are lightly moderated, and thus littered with many (many) topics that should either be closed or merged due to its impropriety or duplicity. (Which is why that spit or swallow thread is still open.)

Kathleen's post was not about why the topic should be closed, but rather on the content of your specific post because it does not pertain to or contribute to the original topic. I'm not trying to side with Kathleen because she is my friend, and yes, the large font was unneccessary, but it seems more like you harbor a personal grudge (well, we all already know that) and are trying to shed bad light on Kathleen, so let's not make this thread a personal attack.

Another thing: nowhere does it state that girls are not allowed in the boys' locker and vice versa; if you think that they shouldn't be allowed to visit each other's lockers, than perhaps you should head over to Blogring, where doing so is prohibited. It's been long known that the girls of the site skew the statistics of all the polls in the guys' locker.

The sexy chest thread is not restricted to only females posting; after all, many guys do post their pecs/abs in the thread. However, I concede that you may be right on how appropriate it is.

Again, I'm restating that the masturbation topic was not closed because it was not PG-13, because a lot of your argument rests on the male masturbation topics being considered inappropriate and female masturbation topics appropriate.

Also, yes, there are topics in the lockers that may be pg-13 if discussed in a serious matter. However, most of cB is not mature enough to so, which is why said topics are closed.

[*Kathleen*]

Alright, ever since I have been on create blog people have been posting away, cussing, and making sexual passes at eachother... talking about spiting and swallowing and showing off their tits... I don't want to see this change, in fact... I think it's very intresting, but I think it's rediculous when topics like this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146208

:are closed, and are considered inapropriate. Topics like this, where someone is asking a question that if asked in a serious manner (which it was), and being a topic that does come up in a boys locker room, is deffinitly PG-13.

*definitely
But more to the point. There are entirely TOO many threads revolving around that subject. I figured if you REALLY felt the urge to discuss masturbation, you can post in one of those other threads. I added (in that thread) that it was ruled out as not being PG-13 before - when did I ever say that I agreed with it? I was simply stating how it is. Jesus said so in his post here, when he said:

In that "In General" topic. I actually closed that because there were already topics out there on it, excusing that last question. As for the last question, in past topics it was deemed inappropriate. But then I guess this is why you made this post.

and topics like this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=113799

:are left open. Under-aged girls are posting pictures of their breasts on the internet while guys between the ages of 12-25 look and drool.

I honestly don't like that thread, but I've said many things that haven't gotten done. I figured that would've been a wasted attempt either. Have I ever supported it with a picture of my chest in there? No. I completely agree with you.

I mean, it just seems so rediculous. It pisses me off to see something so normal being discussed in a boy's locker room being discussed there, when admin's come along and close the topic... (I have nothing against the admin who did it)... Kathleen just jumps in there and posts about why the topic should be closed in big bold print. Why, is Kathleen jumping arounf in the boy's locker-room talking about why topics should be closed?

If you noticed, I didn't target the Boys' Locker. I was also picking out topics in Relationships and Girls' Locker, as well as pointing out signatures and spammers. Thanks for giving me the courtesy of reading my entire thread, as I've done with you here. [/sarcasm]

I have no idea... why should girls have a say in what topics are inappropriate in the guys locker-room? Some topics that guys talk about are totally normal for them to talk about between each-other, and are deffinitly pg 13 if talked about in a serious manner... I don't see guys jumping from topic to topic in the girls locker room talking about how their topics should be closed...

Uhm. So why am I the only girl you're calling out from the Boys' Locker? The guys "invade" ours as well. It's not an ACTUAL locker room, you silly silly boy.

Look, personaly I think this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=143178
(btw, look what kathleen said in this topic)

isnt much different than this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146208

yet she totally bashs ours, and our topic gets the close-out... I mean, cmon

What I said in that topic? IT WAS A JOKE. Way to sense facetiousness, buddy.

how about this:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=143392

when you suck a penis, do you spit out the spunk or do you swallow it? Is this pg-13.... get real, you guys are so unfair to the guys locker room...

I know I've questioned that. I'm pretty sure it's been questioned by other members as well. I have no idea why the moderators haven't closed that. I agree. I think that topic should've been closed ages ago as well. I can gladly add it in my topic, if you'd like.

I have been meaning to bring this up for a while.. I guess I just never did, becuase I felt that you guys would just start closes all the intresting sexual topics out there... being a teenager, sex is one of the most intresting things that there is, and I don't want to see this aspect of create blog get taken away... All i want is for people to treat the boy's lockeroom with the same respect as the girls locker room... I think it's rediculous, how we are literally treated differently....

Other than my instance, I don't see how we're being sexist or treating you unfairly. This seems more of an attack on me and my pointing out threads that should be closed. I apologize if it seems like I'm attacking the Boys' Locker and favoring the Girls' Locker. To be honest, I probably like the Boys' Locker more. It makes me giggle more.

Edit // Sorry that everything's spaced out. It wasn't working before when I had too many quotes.. I think.

[*Uronacid*]

Okay, first of all, let's establish that this thread was not closed because it was inappropriate; it was closed because it is a duplicate topic. The second thing we should establish is that both the boys' locker and the girls' locker are lightly moderated, and thus littered with many (many) topics that should either be closed or merged due to its impropriety or duplicity. (Which is why that spit or swallow thread is still open.)

Kathleen's post was not about why the topic should be closed, but rather on the content of your specific post because it does not pertain to or contribute to the original topic. I'm not trying to side with Kathleen because she is my friend, and yes, the large font was unneccessary, but it seems more like you harbor a personal grudge (well, we all already know that) and are trying to shed bad light on Kathleen, so let's not make this thread a personal attack.

Another thing: nowhere does it state that girls are not allowed in the boys' locker and vice versa; if you think that they shouldn't be allowed to visit each other's lockers, than perhaps you should head over to Blogring, where doing so is prohibited. It's been long known that the girls of the site skew the statistics of all the polls in the guys' locker.

The sexy chest thread is not restricted to only females posting; after all, many guys do post their pecs/abs in the thread. However, I concede that you may be right on how appropriate it is.

Again, I'm restating that the masturbation topic was not closed because it was not PG-13, because a lot of your argument rests on the male masturbation topics being considered inappropriate and female masturbation topics appropriate.

Also, yes, there are topics in the lockers that may be pg-13 if discussed in a serious matter. However, most of cB is not mature enough to so, which is why said topics are closed.

I guess I just don't like the fact that kathleen did it becuase she is a girl, I don't have a problem with the girls browsing the guys forums and posting, but I deffinitly don't see any other females doing that in the guys room. I feel like she consistantly rats people out. It's rediculous. Somtimes, the topics deserve to be close, but if a topic is going to be closed or ratted on in the guys locker room don't you think it should be a guy who should do it.
I see her breaking the PG-13 rule all the time, and I also see her post and have convo's in topics that have deffinilty been created before without saying a word. I guess she was jsut the final straw for me in the guys locker room. I see topics get closed all the time becuase girls seem to think they are inappropriate. If you are in the guys locker room, then you shouldn't be offened. I don't want girls to be unable to post, and i don't want girls to feel unwanted, but I don't think girls should be in there ratting us off for being inappropriate if they are reading things in the Boy's locker-room of their own free will. I have nothing against her personally. I'm sorry if this looks like a personal attack, but I do see her ratting people out in topics quite frequently...

Look, I don't want topics like this to be banned, and I think they make this site very unique. But, I hate seeing topics that aren't bad get closed especially when they don't need to be. The maturbation thread that was similiar was not the same, it didn't even have a poll.

[Simba]

Ok, now that all that appears to be cleared up, which topics do you guys think are not PG-13. Perhaps we can do something about it.

Sexy Chest thread? Spit or Swallow thread? And anything else.

And if there's anyone that supports those threads, why should those be kept open?

And then after that, at what point do you guys see something "not PG-13." Once we establish that, we can prevent any more non PG-13 topics from sliding and topics that we can handle from being closed.

[*Kathleen*]

I guess I just don't like the fact that kathleen did it becuase she is a girl, I don't have a problem with the girls browsing the guys forums and posting, but I deffinitly don't see any other females doing that in the guys room. I feel like she consistantly rats people out. It's rediculous. Somtimes, the topics deserve to be close, but if a topic is going to be closed or ratted on in the guys locker room don't you think it should be a guy who should do it.
I see her breaking the PG-13 rule all the time, and I also see her post and have convo's in topics that have deffinilty been created before without saying a word. I guess she was jsut the final straw for me in the guys locker room. I see topics get closed all the time becuase girls seem to think they are inappropriate. If you are in the guys locker room, then you shouldn't be offened. I don't want girls to be unable to post, and i don't want girls to feel unwanted, but I don't think girls should be in there ratting us off for being inappropriate if they are reading things in the Boy's locker-room of their own free will. I have nothing against her personally. I'm sorry if this looks like a personal attack, but I do see her ratting people out in topics quite frequently...

Look, I don't want topics like this to be banned, and I think they make this site very unique. But, I hate seeing topics that aren't bad get closed especially when they don't need to be. The maturbation thread that was similiar was not the same, it didn't even have a poll.

Uh. Please read the bit in my post earlier where I state that I wasn't only going in the Boys' Locker. Besides, as Anna said, the point I was trying to prove with all of that is the fact that those forums aren't moderated enough. I'm trying to wake up People Staff or something. No one seems to be doing anything. Sorry if I sound harsh. It's just I don't think we're quite seeing eye-to-eye here; you're not getting the point of that entire thread. Feel free to add on to it. If you find topics in the Girls' Locker that should be closed, post the link in there.

[*Uronacid*]

Uh. Please read the bit in my post earlier where I state that I wasn't only going in the Boys' Locker. Besides, as Anna said, the point I was trying to prove with all of that is the fact that those forums aren't moderated enough. I'm trying to wake up People Staff or something. No one seems to be doing anything. Sorry if I sound harsh. It's just I don't think we're quite seeing eye-to-eye here; you're not getting the point of that entire thread. Feel free to add on to it. If you find topics in the Girls' Locker that should be closed, post the link in there.

I'm sorry, I was typing that out while youwere making your comments, we just posted at the same time...


no wtf, I don't want topics to be cleared up.. I don't really care about closing topics, I just think you people are way to strict or just plain inconsistant. also, i think you guys should stop ratting topics and people out... if you have a problem with a topic... PM an admin

[*Kathleen*]

Ok, now that all that appears to be cleared up, which topics do you guys think are not PG-13. Perhaps we can do something about it.

Sexy Chest thread? Spit or Swallow thread? And anything else.

And if there's anyone that supports those threads, why should those be kept open?

And then after that, at what point do you guys see something "not PG-13." Once we establish that, we can prevent any more non PG-13 topics from sliding and topics that we can handle from being closed.

Meh just anything that you wouldn't see in a PG-13 movie. I mean, honestly, what PG-13 movies talk about spitting and swallowing or even speak on that subject at all? I just wish People Staff would stop simply moderating The Lounge and Entertainment. Other forums exist out there. Anna pointed that out in Moderator Performance, but I guess that sort of proved our point that the moderators don't seem to want to listen to us (Anna, me). Thank you, though, Jesus.

[*Azarel*]

I guess I just don't like the fact that kathleen did it becuase she is a girl, I don't have a problem with the girls browsing the guys forums and posting, but I deffinitly don't see any other females doing that in the guys room. I feel like she consistantly rats people out. It's rediculous. Somtimes, the topics deserve to be close, but if a topic is going to be closed or ratted on in the guys locker room don't you think it should be a guy who should do it.

It shouldn't make a difference who reports what. There are plenty of other females browsing the boys' locker, and I myself have done the same thing with some topics, by PMing a mod. I highly doubt that you would be pissed off if Kathleen had PMed a mod so that you didn't know who reported the thread. Really now.

I see her breaking the PG-13 rule all the time, and I also see her post and have convo's in topics that have deffinilty been created before without saying a word. I guess she was jsut the final straw for me in the guys locker room. I see topics get closed all the time becuase girls seem to think they are inappropriate. If you are in the guys locker room, then you shouldn't be offened. I don't want girls to be unable to post, and i don't want girls to feel unwanted, but I don't think girls should be in there ratting us off for being inappropriate if they are reading things in the Boy's locker-room of their own free will. I have nothing against her personally. I'm sorry if this looks like a personal attack, but I do see her ratting people out in topics quite frequently...

Where have you seen that?

And if you "see topics get closed all the time because girls seem to think they are inappropriate," why did you say earlier that you "don't see any other females doing that in the guys room"? ...

Look, I don't want topics like this to be banned, and I think they make this site very unique. But, I hate seeing topics that aren't bad get closed especially when they don't need to be. The maturbation thread that was similiar was not the same, it didn't even have a poll.

Poll or no poll, the content was the same. If I were a mod, though, I personally would've merged the topics or split the polls and added them to the existing topics.

[*Uronacid*]

It shouldn't make a difference who reports what. There are plenty of other females browsing the boys' locker, and I myself have done the same thing with some topics, by PMing a mod. I highly doubt that you would be pissed off if Kathleen had PMed a mod so that you didn't know who reported the thread. Really now.

Where have you seen that?

And if you "see topics get closed all the time because girls seem to think they are inappropriate," why did you say earlier that you "don't see any other females doing that in the guys room"? ...

Poll or no poll, the content was the same. If I were a mod, though, I personally would've merged the topics or split the polls and added them to the existing topics.

I think I meant that I didn't see guys going into the girls locker room telling them what topics that they needed to close

[*Kathleen*]

I'm sorry, I was typing that out while youwere making your comments, we just posted at the same time...
no wtf, I don't want topics to be cleared up.. I don't really care about closing topics, I just think you people are way to strict or just plain inconsistant. also, i think you guys should stop ratting topics and people out... if you have a problem with a topic... PM an admin

Yeah I noticed that before. Sorry. Didn't realize it at the time. Well, sorry. I guess I'm slightly biased because all I EVER see in the Boys' Locker room are topics pertaining to, well topics around the same jist as the one in question. Again, you're missing the point of that thread. Here, I'll lay it out for you:

1. To point out that moderators aren't in the last three forums enough.
2. I've PMed Staff members about topics and whatnot, but my help has obviously gone unnoticed. I decided to display it publicly.
3. I've POSTED in the threads themselves, telling moderators that they should be closed, but since they don't go in there.. they haven't seen them. Again, why it was better that I display it publicly.

So did you read my topic at all?

I think I meant that I didn't see guys going into the girls locker room telling them what topics that they needed to close

Uhm. As I've said.. you can gladly do so yourself. It's not like I'm married to the threads in there.

Hi Anna.

[marzipan]

Hm...well, this thread has helped me out. Kathleen's right on the fact that any topic on here that you wouldn't see in a PG-13 movie isn't PG-13. I'm going to look through that forum now.

[Simba]

I'm sorry, I was typing that out while youwere making your comments, we just posted at the same time...
no wtf, I don't want topics to be cleared up.. I don't really care about closing topics, I just think you people are way to strict or just plain inconsistant. also, i think you guys should stop ratting topics and people out... if you have a problem with a topic... PM an admin

This looks like what happend with the spam rule. I think you want us (the mods) to have a fine line of what is PG-13 and what is not so that we don't make those mistakes again, don't you?

And you're welcome Kathleen.

[*Uronacid*]

Yeah I noticed that before. Sorry. Didn't realize it at the time. Well, sorry. I guess I'm slightly biased because all I EVER see in the Boys' Locker room are topics pertaining to, well topics around the same jist as the one in question. Again, you're missing the point of that thread. Here, I'll lay it out for you:

So did you read my topic at all?
Uhm. As I've said.. you can gladly do so. It's not like I'm married to the threads in there.

I here you, maybe we just need more mods on this site.. >.> I mean, I would have closed the boob thing... I guess it was kind of discussting seeing all the comments, but everyone was having fun, and it WAS TECHINCALLY PG-13

there was nothing rated "R" about the thread, execpt for the cussing >.>

the spitting and swallowing thing, I really can't see what is rated R about that either... they are no graphic images, and apparently its something that alot of you have done... so... who am i to judge, I look at it like... its in the girls locker room, and they should be aloud to talk about the things that they have to go through....

the penis size thing, I mean, cmon... there is nothing wrong with that... guys talk about that all the time, and between guys its not a big deal... i feel the same way that i feel about the spitting and swallowing thread...

This looks like what happend with the spam rule. I think you want us (the mods) to have a fine line of what is PG-13 and what is not so that we don't make those mistakes again, don't you?

And you're welcome Kathleen.

YES, there has to be a fine line! what constitutes what is pg-13, and what is not...

that bring up the question.... are things that are in the boys/girls locker room different...

i mean, talking about girls guy to guy is a little different than talking to a girl about other girls....

and i'm sure talking about guys girl to girl is different than talking to a guy about another guy...

different things are pg-13 between the sexs depending on whether your talking to someone of the same or opposite sex...

for example: It may be normal for a girl to talk to another girl about how much she mastubates, but for a guy to ask a girl that... it's a little bit more risky...

another example: It may be normal for a guy to talk to another guy about how big he is, but its different when a guy tells a girl how big he is.... there is usually a sexual aspect to it that makes it less in-appropriate

[*Kathleen*]

Hm...well, this thread has helped me out. Kathleen's right on the fact that any topic on here that you wouldn't see in a PG-13 movie isn't PG-13. I'm going to look through that forum now.

Thank you. Please don't take this as ass-kissing, but I'm glad to see your moderator actions/presence is improving.

This looks like what happend with the spam rule. I think you want us (the mods) to have a fine line of what is PG-13 and what is not so that we don't make those mistakes again, don't you?

And you're welcome Kathleen.

Yeah. I think when createBlog was smaller, it was easier to let things slide or have definitions pretty loose. Now that different mindsets are running it, everyone has very vague ideas about everything. It's sad that we must define everything, but that's what it all boils down to.

that bring up the question.... are things that are in the boys/girls locker room different...

i mean, talking about girls guy to guy is a little different than talking to a girl about other girls....

and i'm sure talking about guys girl to girl is different than talking to a guy about another guy...

different things are pg-13 between the sexs depending on whether your talking to someone of the same or opposite sex...

for example: It may be normal for a girl to talk to another girl about how much she mastubates, but for a guy to ask a girl that... it's a little bit more risky...

another example: It may be normal for a guy to talk to another guy about how big he is, but its different when a guy tells a girl how big he is.... there is usually a sexual aspect to it that makes it less in-appropriate

I'm afraid I'm not seeing your point on that one. Are you implying that we should make it so that girls can't go in Boys' Locker and vice-versa?

[Simba]

I believe what he is saying is that a guy may see a topic in boy's locker appropriate, but a girl may not see the same topic as appropriate. And vice versa.

[*Kathleen*]

Yeah, but I've complained about Girls' Locker topics.

[*Uronacid*]

Thank you. Please don't take this as ass-kissing, but I'm glad to see your moderator actions/presence is improving.

Yeah. I think when createBlog was smaller, it was easier to let things slide or have definitions pretty loose. Now that different mindsets are running it, everyone has very vague ideas about everything. It's sad that we must define everything, but that's what it all boils down to.

I'm afraid I'm not seeing your point on that one. Are you implying that we should make it so that girls can't go in Boys' Locker and vice-versa?

no, I think that you should instead have a warning telling you what you could see before you enter the room... that is if you are of the opposite sex.. just to let you know that, "this is meant for guys, so it might be a little different in this part. look at your own risk." I think that mods should be more relaxed on what is and isn't pg-13 in those threads... of corse no bashing and no nude pic's, but I think that that things such and breast size, penis size, and how much you mastubate are all things that are talked about in locker rooms across the coutry... I believe those forums should be a little bit more relaxed, just as they are now... alost like the sand box, except for guy things and one and girl things in another...

I believe that separating the sex's would make it much less intresting....

Yeah, but I've complained about Girls' Locker topics.

thats besides the piont, you see things differently than me... and many other guys (you have to exclued some xD) just because you are a girl.... and I'm not being sexist

I believe what he is saying is that a guy may see a topic in boy's locker appropriate, but a girl may not see the same topic as appropriate. And vice versa.

EXACTLY, MAYBE there should be a guy mod specfically designated to guys locker room, and a girl mod specifically designated to the girls locker room...

[*Kathleen*]

thats fine, but i think that there should be a guy mod specfically designated to guys locker room, and a girl mod specifically designated to the girls locker room...

Uhm. We have Jesus. He's been doing a good job so far. I just don't think he was aware of this problem until now. I'm sure he'll be fine. I hope this thread wasn't created with the intention of helping you get that promotion.

[*Uronacid*]

Uhm. We have Jesus. He's been doing a good job so far. I just don't think he was aware of this problem until now. I'm sure he'll be fine. I hope this thread wasn't created with the intention of helping you get that promotion.

I think he's doing a great job... but we do need a new constitution for what is and isn't pg-13 in each room, I believe that a guy should do it in the guys room, and a girl should do it in the girls room...

Don't start Kathleen *wispers to Kath* "http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146211"

[*Kathleen*]

I believe that separating the sex's would make it much less intresting....
thats besides the piont, you see things differently than me... and many other guys (you have to exclued some xD) just because you are a girl.... and I'm not being sexist
EXACTLY, MAYBE there should be a guy mod specfically designated to guys locker room, and a girl mod specifically designated to the girls locker room...

Uhh I just think we need to define "PG-13," as Jesus said. Also we just need moderators more active there. It'd be too confusing and too constricting if Staff decided to pick one guy and force him to look in there all the time.

[marzipan]

EXACTLY, MAYBE there should be a guy mod specfically designated to guys locker room, and a girl mod specifically designated to the girls locker room...

working on that now.

Well, Arjuna closed the few non-PG-13 topics there were ahead of me.

But I'll be monitoring that forum as well now. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

[*Kathleen*]

I think he's doing a great job... but we do need a new constitution for what is and isn't pg-13 in each room, I believe that a guy should do it in the guys room, and a girl should do it in the girls room...

Don't start Kathleen *wispers to Kath* "http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146211"

I still don't really see why. I just say they read this thread and realize they must try to be as unbiased as possible, despite their gender, whilst reviewing a topic (before, say, closing it). And.. what was that last part about?

[Simba]

I agree with Kathleen. I think we just need a finer definition of what PG-13 is and we're good to go. I don't think we should restrict the gender of who can moderate which locker. I'm sure anybody can do it as long as they know what's PG-13 and what's not.

Plus, I'm the only male on People Staff, and I can't be in the Boy's Locker all the time. I'm sure a female would be able to do fine in there.

[*Uronacid*]

Well, i just think that the it should be determined by a guy if its in the guy locker room... like I was saying before, somethings are seen differently froma girls piont of view, and although you try and be as non biased as you possiblely can, you are not a guy.... you or another female mod may see something that they may consider in-appropriate, where a guy mod wouldn't...

I agree with Kathleen. I think we just need a finer definition of what PG-13 is and we're good to go. I don't think we should restrict the gender of who can moderate which locker. I'm sure anybody can do it as long as they know what's PG-13 and what's not.

Plus, I'm the only male on People Staff, and I can't be in the Boy's Locker all the time. I'm sure a female would be able to do fine in there.

maybe we need more guys... >.> *I shouldn't have said that, but it's true... >.>"

[no-name]

We need more male mods. Well we need more good mods period.

[*Uronacid*]

I agree... we do, and our female mods are doing a great job ;)

but anyways...

well, what constitutes pg-13?

[demolished]

If someone dont like it, dont READ it.

dont bash it. talk to the mod about it.

[*Azarel*]

If someone dont like it, dont READ it.
dont bash it. talk to the mod about it.

OMFG, you didn't even read that we had resolved that and are now trying to establish a definition for what pg-13.

[marzipan]

well, what constitutes pg-13?

Like Kathleen said, anything you wouldn't find in a Pg-13 movie.

No vulgar images or text. No "indepth" discussion of sex, masturbation, etc. What I mean by indepth is...well, I think you guys know what I mean by indepth.

[*mzkandi*]

[font=trebuchet ms]Meh just anything that you wouldn't see in a PG-13 movie.

I think thinking about it that way may help us set up clearer guidelines.

If we relate that to such things are the sexy chest and booty threads in Pictures how you all think this would apply? I've never seen a PG-13 movie with 13 or 14 years showing off their boobs or behinds.

[*mona lisa*]

I think thinking about it that way may help us set up clearer guidelines.

If we relate that to such things are the sexy chest and booty threads in Pictures how you all think this would apply? I've never seen a PG-13 movie with 13 or 14 years showing off their boobs or behinds.

Very true. And there's always the issue of people lying about their age. Though, that's a risk we have to take. If people find it *that* offensive, I have no problem with it being closed or, as a a sensitive subject like this, deleting it.

[*This Confession*]

I've never seen a PG-13 movie with 13 or 14 years showing off their boobs or behinds.

I have to say this, but have you ever seen a group of guys talk about their packages in a pg-13 movie?

I mean a ton of stuff on here you wouldn't find in a pg-13 movie anyway, So you need rules that explain it a lot more than that.

[smoke]

Honestly, Uronacid, I think a lot of curse words are PG-13. Sad, but on TV and radio nowadays about all they bleep out is God and f**k.

[*Uronacid*]

I have seen pleanty of pg-13 movies that talk about sex.

Just a few movies that are very suggestive being pg-13:

Saved
John Tucker Must Die
Charlie's Angels

PG-13 does not mean no sex... the deffinition of a movie 13 movie is a follows

PG-13 is thus a sterner warning to parents, particularly when deciding which movies are not suitable for younger children. Parents, by the rating, are alerted to be very careful about the attendance of their under-teenage children. A PG-13 film is one which, in the view of the Rating Board, leaps beyond the boundaries of the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, or other contents, but does not quite fit within the restricted R category. Any drug use content will initially require at least a PG-13 rating. In effect, the PG-13 cautions parents with more stringency than usual to give special attention to this film before they allow their 12-year-olds and younger to attend. If nudity is sexually oriented, the film will generally not be found in the PG-13 category. If violence is too rough or persistent, the film goes into the R (restricted) rating. A film's single use of one of the harsher sexually derived words, though only as an expletive, shall initially require the Rating Board to issue that film at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive must lead the Rating Board to issue a film an R rating, as must even one of these words used in a sexual context. These films can be rated less severely, however, if by a special vote, the Rating Board feels that a lesser rating would more responsibly reflect the opinion of American parents.

PG-13 places larger responsibilities on parents for their children and moviegoing. The voluntary rating system is not a surrogate parent, nor should it be. It cannot, and should not, insert itself in family decisions that only parents can make. Its purpose is to give pre-screened informational warnings, so that parents can form their own judgments. PG-13 is designed to make parental decisions easier for films between PG and R.

I argue that you people are being too strict in some cases and too accepting in others...

I personaly think it's alright for guys and girls to talk to eachother about their private sexual lives\, I of think of it like a sex ed class. I don't want to eliminate that from cB. There are somethings that are deffinitly ok for a guy to talk about 1 on 1 with another guy, and a girl to talk about 1 on 1 with another girl.

On the other hand, I don't think it's PG-13 when a girl/boy pops into the opposite sexs locker room and posts things like, "WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE THING TO DO IN BED."...

Also, we all like to joke around about sex, cmon... I mean, sometimes it's just funny... joking around about things also makes things more comfortable. I don't have a problem with girls/boys comming in, viewing the topics mand in the opposite sexs room, and posting in them. I think it only adds to the fun.

-I don't think that people of the opposite sex should be able to vote on polls in the locker rooms.
-I don't think that people of the opposite sex should be able to create topics in the locker rooms.
-I think we would be taking away a huge aspect of createblog if we didn't allow people of the oppposite sex to post in eachothers locker rooms....

I don't know exactly what should be done to control it, other than designate a mod of the appropriate sex to make the judgment calls for that forum.

[demolished]

OMFG, you didn't even read that we had resolved that and are now trying to establish a definition for what pg-13.

LOL.

i'm actually referring a few links from her.

like this one:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146208

i really dont see anything wrong with it.

[*Azarel*]

LOL.
i'm actually referring a few links from her.
like this one:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=146208
i really dont see anything wrong with it.

Exactly the point. HE is arguing that thread is PG-13, and if you had actually read the replies before posting, you'd see that the thread was closed because it was DUPLICATE, not because it's inappropriate.

[*I Shot JFK*]

uron, your definition would have been more useful if everything you bolded wasn't defined in terms of PG and R, which are themselves undefined.

and mona, the thing about age liars is difficult... on the one hand, we all know they're on the site, and on the other, it isnt our problem to caterfor them, because they are the ones who shouldnt be here. the only solution to that is to keep the thread, bu timpose an age limit, i suppose, although that seems unfair.

ooh... thought... is there anyway to set something up whereby a member can flag their thread if they are concerned about the content, and younger members be told to avoid thos emarked threads? actually, that wouldnt be practical.... hmmm...

[*mona lisa*]

and mona, the thing about age liars is difficult... on the one hand, we all know they're on the site, and on the other, it isnt our problem to caterfor them, because they are the ones who shouldnt be here. the only solution to that is to keep the thread, bu timpose an age limit, i suppose, although that seems unfair.

ooh... thought... is there anyway to set something up whereby a member can flag their thread if they are concerned about the content, and younger members be told to avoid thos emarked threads? actually, that wouldnt be practical.... hmmm...

I understand that; that's why it's difficult. One thing that can easily be done is to tell people to write something like 'mature content' in the description when making a new topic, but of course, that may just bring people in.

[*I Shot JFK*]

mmm... that is the risk... the younger people are the ones most likely to be drawn to anything intended t okeep them away.

possibly a seperate forum visible only to people above a certain age? is that even doable? there's bound to be some sort of ACP expansion or add on to do it. worth looking into maybe?

im really just thinking aloud (well, you know) at this point.

[*Uronacid*]

It's age frawd isn't a big deal anyways, by law people can lie about their age... the web site doesn't ahve to enforce it because they sign the agreement when they create an account saying that they are who they say they are. Anything past that piont is not our fault, and createblog cannot get introuble. The whole people faking their age thing shouldn't be a big deal... by law the goverenment only requests us to have that agreement when you create your profile.

Think of it like porn sites that ask you your age or tell you not to pass a certain piont if you are under 18. Once you tell them your 18 there are no questions asked. You can look at all of it... it doesn't matter whether your 18 or not. It isn't like you have the ability to show a proof of id.

mmm... that is the risk... the younger people are the ones most likely to be drawn to anything intended t okeep them away.

possibly a seperate forum visible only to people above a certain age? is that even doable? there's bound to be some sort of ACP expansion or add on to do it. worth looking into maybe?

im really just thinking aloud (well, you know) at this point.

this would be really intresting.. but then you would need older mods to watch it



the onther thing I might like to add is... You really should be able to increae your post count when you post in the feedback section... It says that you don't recieve anthing added to your post count because you aren't adding to the community, but in my opinion you are adding more to this community here than any other section... the things you say here could change the entire community... I just don't see how this, "We implemented this system because we felt that replies in these forums were only compliments or complaints, which don't really contribute to the forums." applies...

[*I Shot JFK*]

Yes, we know about the age lying, weve tackled that already. That was my point. dont adjust the site rules to suit people who shouldnt be here

There plenty of mods above an age that would be suitable for that idea.

Oh, and yes i ABSOLUTELY agree about the feedback forum. I had that conversation with Anna(?) the other day. This is the least 'non-contributive' forum in all of CB

[*Zatanna*]

You really should be able to increae your post count when you post in the feedback section...

Oh, and yes i ABSOLUTELY agree about the feedback forum.

Being discussed.

[*Uronacid*]

Being discussed.

very very cool

[*mona lisa*]

Posts made in Feedback now add to your post count and Posts Per Day.

[*I Shot JFK*]

oh good!

[*This Confession*]

gee thats good, i always wondered why they weren't added to your post count.

[*Azarel*]

gee thats good, i always wondered why they weren't added to your post count.

It was part of our compromise during the cB revolution.

[smoke]

Posts made in Feedback now add to your post count and Posts Per Day.

Why?

Oh, and the thing that Uronacid mentioned about the lockers... I always thought it would be cool to make the lockers exclusive to just the specified gender. Of course, that wouldn't apply to moderators. It would probably cause complications.

[*Azarel*]

Why?

Because the feedback forum is an actual legitimate forum where people actually discuss important issues, unlike the Sandbox/Humor/Introductions/etc.?

[smoke]

Because the feedback forum is an actual legitimate forum where people actually discuss important issues, unlike the Sandbox/Humor/Introductions/etc.?

That's the answer I expected. I was just curious.

[*I Shot JFK*]

I really dont like the idea of gender exclusive locker rooms, simply because a lot of the topics in the lockers rooms ask for advice, and it is helpful to get both perspectives.

[*Uronacid*]

I do like the fact that girls can give their imput, but he is right about there beign less compications ;)

[*I Shot JFK*]

Who is right about that?

[smoke]

I really dont like the idea of gender exclusive locker rooms, simply because a lot of the topics in the lockers rooms ask for advice, and it is helpful to get both perspectives.

Yeah, that was basically the same conclusion I came to. Which is why I never pushed the idea.

[*Uronacid*]

thats exactly why I don't push the idea... I still hold to what I said above...

-I don't think that people of the opposite sex should be able to vote on polls in the locker rooms.
-I don't think that people of the opposite sex should be able to create topics in the locker rooms.
-I think we would be taking away a huge aspect of createblog if we didn't allow people of the oppposite sex to post in eachothers locker rooms....

[*Kathleen*]

So all we would be allowed to do is post in each other's forums? I'm sorry, but I think that's complete crap. There shouldn't be any restrictions. You're honestly making an issue out of nothing here, Josh. CreateBlog has been around for nearly three years now, and no one had a problem with the Boys' and Girls' Lockers until you came along. You say that you don't want to make them exclusive, but your restrictions speak differently. Concerning the polls, what if a guy is asking advice in the Boys' Locker that requests girls' opinions as well? As for the topics, I know for a fact that there are boys that post in the Girls' Locker occasionally (and vice-versa) asking for something specifically for them.

[smoke]

I don't really see a problem with the polls. I just think it's annoying whe guys go into the girls locker and say things like "Is my penis big enough?" or a girl going into the guys locker and saying "Are my boobs big enough?" It's not a major issue though. We have moderators to weed that stuff out.

[*Statues/Shadows*]

First off, Josh(?), Learn. to. spell. My God. Eesh.

The whole matter of PG-13 has been discussed many times before. However, everytime we reach the same conclusion: that everything is fine just as it is. It ll comes down to our moderators' judgement and I do have faith that they're sensible enough to close a particularly explicit topic on masturbation or whatever the hell. If you are offended by anything in particular, my first first words of advice would be to not get offended so easily, but then, to take advantage of those dandy little report buttons.

If you really think Saved! and Charlie's Angels are particlarly suggestive for PG-13 movies, there's your problem right there. I watched Charlie's Angels before I was allowed to watch many PG-13 movies, and Saved! tried so hard to go against cliches that it became completely cliched itself, so I really don't know how you're supposed to be offended by that unless you're a completely closed-minded f**k.

All of that aside, I'm not really seeing the issue here. I get the feeling someone's trying to become the saviour by finding solutions to nonexistant problems just in time for the new modding session.

[*I Shot JFK*]

^ i missed and love you.

[xcorphz]

Exactly!, if mods ar making topics where girls are posting pictures of there breasts while people drool over them... why can't we as guys share that kind of info with eachother...
Buts its not like you can post a picture of a penis on here.

WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT WE WANNA DO BUT THE ONLY THING IS..
WE SHOULD ALL KNOW OUR LIMITATIONS..

[*tripvertigo*]

Um... are you serious? This topic is a year old, and that's what your input is? I thought you were dragging this topic out from the graveyard for a reason.

[Rachel]

Um... are you serious? This topic is a year old, and that's what your input is? I thought you were dragging this topic out from the graveyard for a reason.

[*Uronacid*]

First off, Josh(?), Learn. to. spell. My God. Eesh.

The whole matter of PG-13 has been discussed many times before. However, everytime we reach the same conclusion: that everything is fine just as it is. It ll comes down to our moderators' judgement and I do have faith that they're sensible enough to close a particularly explicit topic on masturbation or whatever the hell. If you are offended by anything in particular, my first first words of advice would be to not get offended so easily, but then, to take advantage of those dandy little report buttons.

If you really think Saved! and Charlie's Angels are particlarly suggestive for PG-13 movies, there's your problem right there. I watched Charlie's Angels before I was allowed to watch many PG-13 movies, and Saved! tried so hard to go against cliches that it became completely cliched itself, so I really don't know how you're supposed to be offended by that unless you're a completely closed-minded f**k.

All of that aside, I'm not really seeing the issue here. I get the feeling someone's trying to become the saviour by finding solutions to nonexistant problems just in time for the new modding session.

I don't think that you can compare the suggestive scenes in Charlie's Angels (The Movie) and the suggestive images of cB. Those Women were not underaged, but as far as I'm concerned. You guys can show off your breasts all you want. I just thought and thought and thought. Well, actually I didn't think that hard. All I thought about was.. when I was underaged. I remember when I would feel the erge to look at the bare chest of someone my age. I liked the breast. Hell, every guy should like the breast. I feel bad for Homos. Even better are the breasts of a person I could relate to. I think that we should allow these underaged girls to post pictures of their breasts for all the underaged guys to see. :D

Thank you!!!

WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT WE WANNA DO BUT THE ONLY THING IS..
WE SHOULD ALL KNOW OUR LIMITATIONS..

Yes, I agee. You do have a right to do what you want. I say that stupid chick breasts look the same as smart chick breasts, and if I were young again, I wouldn't care who's breasts I saw. Good point.

[*Uronacid*]

C'mon, you don't have a right to do what you want all the time. Go to your local grocery store and take off all your clothes. Then run through the aisles. When the police come to take you away, tell them how you had the right to do what you wanted.

Nothing can be unlimited. I understand that a lot of kids today have probably been exposed to this already, but is that a good thing? Do we want to be another source of exposure...yes or no? I mean that shouldn't be our primary goal, but I'm 17 years old and I wouldn't want a detailed account of how a girl performed oral sex on her boyfriend either.

It's not all about age..

I agree, I was just making a point by being sarcastic, and showing people how obnoxious it sounds.

[bat19]

yeah, f uck. These f uckin ass-holes need to learn what censorship means. Im sick and f uckin tired of these queerbaits swearing in every f uckin movie and every tv show airing these underage cun+s sucking every faggy bitch's coc k.
f**ktard.