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people who smoke are fuking stupid, yea they look cool. and what?
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post May 11 2006, 01:18 AM
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imo anyone that smokes is a dumbass. and don't give me stuff like "maybe he just made a bad mistake in life." cuz after all taht convincing he got NOT to smoke he still smokes like a dumbass. they deserve to get cancer cuz they're fuking stupid.

//edit. ok fine some of u think that not all people who smoke are stupid. i didnt mean it like that. i meant that people who smoke are stupid for choosing to smoke.
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:25 AM
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You're quite opinionated, aren't you?
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:26 AM
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haha yea. the world is a strange place
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:33 AM
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You MAKE the world a strange place.
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:34 AM
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ok. not going to argue w/ u
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:35 AM
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i think you're topics are extremely interesting. people who smoke are stupid.

people who put pictures of themselves and lie that it's their cousin are even more stupid.
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:35 AM
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^ Hey. Quit baiting.
 
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QUOTE(Kameko @ May 10 2006, 11:35 PM) *
i think you're topics are extremely interesting. people who smoke are stupid.

people who put pictures of themselves and lie that it's their cousin are even more stupid.


yea u heard the admin. quit baiting, unless u want to keep talking sh1t and get fuked up one day in ur own neighborhood.
 
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salcha4u: LOL REFRESH
salcha4u: YOU GOT OWNED!!!
freshnx addict: ROFL
freshnx addict: OW

sorry, sorry sorry.

i didn't mean it. and it wasn't neccessary corizzle, if you think literally.

right?

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I think you're an awesome staff member.

I'm doing wrong things, even jokingly, and you still haven't gone evil and banned me or something.

I believe you are an extremely fair staff member.

no joke.
 
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QUOTE(Kameko @ May 10 2006, 11:37 PM) *
salcha4u: LOL REFRESH
salcha4u: YOU GOT OWNED!!!
freshnx addict: ROFL
freshnx addict: OW

sorry, sorry sorry.

i didn't mean it. and it wasn't neccessary corizzle, if you think literally.

right?


ok now i see this post. i posted something else too. ok w/e
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(Kameko @ May 11 2006, 2:37 AM) *
excuse me, Madame C.

what's your name?

I think you're an awesome staff member.

I'm doing wrong things, even jokingly, and you still haven't gone evil and banned more or something.

I believe you are an extremely fair staff member.

no joke.

I'm Carrie, and thanks. I believe in the benefit of the doubt. Besides, things haven't gotten totally out of hand.
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:43 AM
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Nice to meet you Carrie, nice to meet you indeed.

I believe in your beliefs.

Benefit of the doubt is awesome, i must say.
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:43 AM
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Smoking is a hard addiction to break, with the nicotine and all.
And yes, despite all of the risks you're taking to your health by doing so, people still do it regardless. Dumb? IMO, yes.

But I remember once that the money that tobacco companies make actually help quite a few health organizations? Or something like that, I could be wrong. It's ironic.

Bleh.
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:45 AM
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^ It's not really ironic, it's political. They have to make themselves seem less scary somehow. What better way than helping the people they make sick?
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:46 AM
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as I always say,

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post May 11 2006, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(Madame C @ May 10 2006, 11:45 PM) *
^ It's not really ironic, it's political. They have to make themselves seem less scary somehow. What better way than helping the people they make sick?


True, I guess.

And the thing is, is that a lot of their advertisements are targeted towards adolescents. Seeing as how we're considered possible long-term clients. ermm.gif Which sucks.
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:49 AM
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^ If only people could die of nicotine overdose, rather than slowly developing lung problems and maybe even cancer. That'd show them.
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:50 AM
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Personally I think that it's rude for you to have made such an absolute statement as that all people who smoke are stupid. That's not neccessarily true. Yeah, smoking is a stupid thing to do but that doesn't mean that the people who smoke are stupid.
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:51 AM
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If they were interested in long-term clients, they wouldn't try to kill us _smile.gif

I don't think smoking is stupid, per se. Driving without seatbelts... That's stupid.

It would be dumb if they do it to get cancer, which I doubt people do. The nicotine has effects of its own which help sometimes (i.e. when I'm bugging out about the final that's coming in a few hours).

I agree with Miss Chrissy that it is rather rude.
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(Madame C @ May 10 2006, 11:49 PM) *
^ If only people could die of nicotine overdose, rather than slowly developing lung problems and maybe even cancer. That'd show them.



I don't know if that'd help.
I mean, look at people who overdose on drugs. People still do drugs despite the fact that there are people who have ODed. Maybe it would decrease the amount of people who smoke, but it'd still be a problem. _unsure.gif

And I agree with Chrissy. Just because people smoke, it doesn't make them stupid.
My aunt smokes. stubborn.gif

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If they were interested in long-term clients, they wouldn't try to kill us _smile.gif


No, but having adolescents as their main target for tobacco sales gets them more money than to have senior citizens or even adults be their main target. Because we're younger and have longer lives to live, is what makes us long-term clients.

It kills people, yes, but that's not their main concern.
 
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^ Well, yeah, but a lot more people smoke cigarettes than shoot up heroine. I don't know, I just think it'd be more of a message to tobacco companies if a large chunk of their consumer base just all of a sudden died, you know?

LOL, anti-tobacco and I'm from the tobacco state (Maryland).
 
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post May 11 2006, 01:57 AM
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^I suppose, but I wouldn't want people just dying all over the nation or even the world. That's sad. pinch.gif

P.S. Really? Maryland is the tobacco state? blink.gif
 
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^ One of them, historically.
 
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no duh! what are you stupid!?

just kidding, just kidding.

i didn't know that either.
 
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post May 11 2006, 02:03 AM
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Random fact I just learned from Wikipedia: there's actually a city named "Port Tobacco Village" in a county not too far from mine.
 
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post May 11 2006, 02:12 AM
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post May 11 2006, 05:57 AM
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What's up with these topics...
 
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post May 11 2006, 06:39 AM
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I don't really have an opinion on this. As long as the smoke smell doesn't get on my clothes, I'm good.
 
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I don't necessarily think smoking is stupid..

What's STUPID is when people already have cancer and they're walking outside wheeling their IV bag out to smoke. I've seen it happen.

Yeah, but my father died of emphysema from years of smoking at a fairly early age, so it's not like smoking isn't harmful.. It just doesn't affect everyone the same way.
 
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I don't think it's stupid but those who live on cigrattes are just idoits.
 
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post May 11 2006, 10:41 AM
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xactly how many fags are u suppose to smoke b4 one becomes addicted?
 
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^ that depends on the frequency and the strength of the cigarette. i've been smoking on and off for over a year, and i dont suffer any ill effects whn i go for a couple of weeks without a cigarette. but then, i dont smoke all that often. a couple of times a week socialy, and that about it.
 
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QUOTE(corizzle20 @ May 11 2006, 1:18 AM) *
imo anyone that smokes is a dumbass. and don't give me stuff like "maybe he just made a bad mistake in life." cuz after all taht convincing he got NOT to smoke he still smokes like a dumbass. they deserve to get cancer cuz they're fuking stupid.

//edit. ok fine some of u think that not all people who smoke are stupid. i didnt mean it like that. i meant that people who smoke are stupid for choosing to smoke.



The inherent judgement of this thread reflects a superficial treatment of this issue. Rather than attempting to understand the nature of nicotine addiction, this topic serves to validate bashing people who do smoke. How helpful is that? The lack of constructive intent in this post serves to demonstrate why so little progress has been made to educate people as to the inherent dangers of smoking. With judgements such as this, smoking becomes a shameful act that is moved into the closet.

Who are you to condemn the actions of others in such a manner? Maybe you deserve to get cancer because of the judgements you cast.
 
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post May 11 2006, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(illumineering @ May 11 2006, 12:42 PM) *
Maybe you deserve to get cancer because of the judgements you cast.

That last sentence seemed a little hypocritical to me. tongue.gif
 
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<---- Hardly considered *stupid*
 
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post May 11 2006, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(waccoon @ May 11 2006, 12:36 PM) *
That last sentence seemed a little hypocritical to me. tongue.gif



How is mirroring the post that started this thread hypocritical?
 
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QUOTE(corizzle20 @ May 11 2006, 2:18 AM) *
imo anyone that smokes is a dumbass. and don't give me stuff like "maybe he just made a bad mistake in life." cuz after all taht convincing he got NOT to smoke he still smokes like a dumbass. they deserve to get cancer cuz they're fuking stupid.

//edit. ok fine some of u think that not all people who smoke are stupid. i didnt mean it like that. i meant that people who smoke are stupid for choosing to smoke.


anyone who smokes is a dumbass?
are you f**king kidding me?

YOU, hun, are the dumbass.

your argument has no backup whatsoever.

that's like me saying, "everyone who consumes excess calories is a dumbass. cuz after all taht convincing blah blah chicken sh*t."

stupid stupid STUPID topic.
 
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If anything, those who smoke are probably smarter than you. _smile.gif
 
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post May 11 2006, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(illumineering @ May 11 2006, 12:01 PM) *
How is mirroring the post that started this thread hypocritical?



I could be wrong, but I think he was trying to say that you telling Corey that maybe he deserves getting cancer for the judgements he makes about people who smoke, is like you saying that people who make bad judgements deserve cancer. Which sounds hypocritical.

And I know that you only directed your post to Corey, but the above is just an example. ermm.gif
 
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post May 11 2006, 06:29 PM
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no, i think you should died.

not all smokers deserve to died or are stupid. you dont understand philosophy.
 
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post May 11 2006, 07:26 PM
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Alright, so I agree with you that smoking is bad/isn't good for your health and all that raspy sh*t. This strongly reminded me of DARE though, because our officer reminded us not to call someone stupid for smoking because obviously you wouldn't want to start anything right? rolleyes.gif
Use "I" statements instead of "you"/"they" statements mmkay.
 
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QUOTE(tainted_angel @ May 11 2006, 5:45 PM) *
I could be wrong, but I think he was trying to say that you telling Corey that maybe he deserves getting cancer for the judgements he makes about people who smoke, is like you saying that people who make bad judgements deserve cancer. Which sounds hypocritical.

And I know that you only directed your post to Corey, but the above is just an example. ermm.gif



I understand what I wrote. Again, my intention was to mirror the content of the original post to make my point. I'm done with this thread! biggrin.gif
 
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post May 11 2006, 07:55 PM
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oh no, i think i'm about to agree a bit with him.
i mean, most people are brought up and told not to smoke and warned of the health problems it will DEFINITELY cause. those who were pressured to smoke don't have the strength to repel this "peer pressure". the action of picking up the first cigarette, lighting it, and then picking up another one is in itself "stupid", considering that everyone, or 99% of people know what happens when you smoke.
 
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thank u^. finally someone smart enuf to recognize my point comes along.
 
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QUOTE(juliar @ May 11 2006, 6:55 PM) *
oh no, i think i'm about to agree a bit with him.
i mean, most people are brought up and told not to smoke and warned of the health problems it will DEFINITELY cause. those who were pressured to smoke don't have the strength to repel this "peer pressure". the action of picking up the first cigarette, lighting it, and then picking up another one is in itself "stupid", considering that everyone, or 99% of people know what happens when you smoke.

Yes but see you said the ACTION OF. That does not mean the person is stupid. The action might be stupid, perhaps the person is making a stupid decision/action, HOWEVER the person still does not have to be stupid. It's not right to make such an absolute statement as the one he made. Plus, there are TONS of things that people do despite knowing the consequences of doing so. Does that make them all stupid? No.
 
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QUOTE(M1SSxCHR1SSY @ May 11 2006, 9:21 PM) *
Yes but see you said the ACTION OF. That does not mean the person is stupid. The action might be stupid, perhaps the person is making a stupid decision/action, HOWEVER the person still does not have to be stupid. It's not right to make such an absolute statement as the one he made. Plus, there are TONS of things that people do despite knowing the consequences of doing so. Does that make them all stupid? No.


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//edit. ok fine some of u think that not all people who smoke are stupid. i didnt mean it like that. i meant that people who smoke are stupid for choosing to smoke.


judging from the edit, it seems like he meant the action of it, but didn't have the mental capacity to find the right words.


just kidding, rizzle.
 
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But I still feel as if he's calling the people stupid still, whether calling everyone who smokes stupid or calling those who smoke stupid because they chose to smoke. It's the same to me? When someone makes a stupid choice it doesn't make them a stupid person. It was just that, a stupid choice.
 
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I think people who smoke are well aware of the risks at hand.

Anyone watch "Supersize Me" with Morgan Spurlock? In one of the interviews, they talk about a man who went up to a woman who was smoking in a public restaurant and heckling her for it - where she just said "Mind your own business, I'm trying to quit."

They probably do know the risks. Addiction is hard.
 
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I don't think it's their fault that they're either addicted, or smoke. So I don't think they're stupid at all.
 
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i dare you to go into the mall and say that... lol
 
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Well, smoking does kill you eventually.
But that doesnt mean everyone that smokes is stupid.
 
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I think people who smoke are well aware of the risks at hand.

Anyone watch "Supersize Me" with Morgan Spurlock? In one of the interviews, they talk about a man who went up to a woman who was smoking in a public restaurant and heckling her for it - where she just said "Mind your own business, I'm trying to quit."

They probably do know the risks. Addiction is hard.

Yes, and I also liked that he pointed out that there were overweight people at the table, too...and he didn't get on THEIR cases for THEIR vices, though obesity is quickly becoming one of the United States' deadliest epidemics.

Oh yeah, and meat kills...but I don't go around saying that people who eat it are stupid.
 
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I only smoke when I'm stressed. I helps me relax better than anything else i've tried so far.
 
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Well, smoking does kill you eventually.
But that doesnt mean everyone that smokes is stupid.


everything kills you eventually. Everyone's going to die "eventually".
 
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Umm, actually I do sort of have an opinion on this, I guess.

People who smoke are not stupid. My dad smokes when he's really stressed, and guess what? He's never gotten hooked. He has a strong enough willpower to know when to stop.

So I'm just going to assume that you won't call him stupid too. =)

But think about it. Being obsessed with basically anything is stupid. Drinking too much alcohol is stupid. {And personally, I think that's a LOT stupider than smoking. For instance, what you can do to other people when you're drunk, or drunk driving and killing someone.} Eating too much is stupid. Playing too many videogames or even EXERCISING too much is stupid.

Life is full of a lot of things that you can get addicted to. Don't call people stupid just because they fall into an easy trap that you could just as easily fall into.
 
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so essentialy, what we have learned, boys and girls, is that while the action of smoking maybe foolish, the people themselves are not necessarily unintelligent
 
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everything kills you eventually. Everyone's going to die "eventually".


I know, I'm just pointing that out..
 
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you have no right to judge any1 else. i do not smoke cigarettes (though thats all i will say), but when I blaze, its just cuz theres too much terrible sh*t to deal with in my life right now and if someone tells me itll make me feel better, im gonna do it. f**k peer pressure, i know its not gonna make me cool and most likely wont make me feel any better about myself, but im just desperately searching for someway to get away from the constant reminders of the failure that is my life.
 
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you have no right to judge any1 else. i do not smoke cigarettes (though thats all i will say), but when I blaze, its just cuz theres too much terrible sh*t to deal with in my life right now and if someone tells me itll make me feel better, im gonna do it. f**k peer pressure, i know its not gonna make me cool and most likely wont make me feel any better about myself, but im just desperately searching for someway to get away from the constant reminders of the failure that is my life.

Your life probably isn't a failure, and smoking marijuana isn't going to make it any more successful anyway.
 
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QUOTE(M1SSxCHR1SSY @ May 11 2006, 2:50 AM) *
Personally I think that it's rude for you to have made such an absolute statement as that all people who smoke are stupid. That's not neccessarily true. Yeah, smoking is a stupid thing to do but that doesn't mean that the people who smoke are stupid.


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A few of my cousins smoke.. and thats because they are addicted.. its not like they can just stop out of nowhere. _unsure.gif
 
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QUOTE(justbishop @ May 11 2006, 10:50 PM) *
Oh yeah, and meat kills...but I don't go around saying that people who eat it are stupid.

Where did you get that from? blink.gif
 
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post May 15 2006, 06:39 PM
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i think that people who smoke have made one really stupid decision that's screwed themselves up...i just found out my sister smokes and i am so mad at her for doing it.
 
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everything kills you eventually. Everyone's going to die "eventually".
Not me! I'm going to live forever!!!!
 
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post May 15 2006, 09:23 PM
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i agree with you. i hate it when people smomke because they think it's cool. A lot of people in my school do that and I'm just like ..get a life
 
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post May 16 2006, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(x____duckii @ May 15 2006, 7:22 PM) *
Where did you get that from? blink.gif

Well, not so much that it kills, but not eating it helps you to live so much longer :)
 
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post May 16 2006, 03:49 PM
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DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE KILLS TOO!! HECKLE ON THEM TOO.
 
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