is the south hurting hip hop? Options

[*basick*]

I think they are. You got wack dudes like paul wall, d4l, dem franchise boyz, field mob, lil flip in the industry trying to heat the south up...but man I swear they are ruining the best chances that hip hop can get. Look at the east right now. IMO, they're in the top of their game right now. Jay Z and Nas joining forces, Papoose is just an ill mixtape monster doin his thing...You got Cass, Fab, Dipset, D-Block all movin a lot...jae millz what a what??? he crazy too...All NEW YORK...I mean I aint disrespecting the south or anythin but man their music is terrible...

[NoSex]

It's because Lil Jon is a Confederate. Clearly.

[Tribal J_Rome]

What's up with field mobb sounding hella goofy.

[MrElsewhere]

snap music is destroying hip hop.

dammit.

[Hiphop d[-_-]b]

Thaaaank you Steven. Gettin' crunk is over. South isn't that good. East is comin' up tho. Im not that educated on it tho' so I'll refrain from speakin too much.

[hi-C]

There's this really good article from L Magazine that I read about the "Death of NYC Hip-Hop" a couple of months ago.

A big part of the reason New York can’t compete like it used to is that the infighting here has gotten way out of hand. 50 Cent has running issues with nearly everyone else in the city, and Cam’ron from Dipset has recently begun putting out tracks dissing Jay Z. While beef can be an effective publicity ploy, this much beef ultimately does the region a fair amount of harm. One major advantage the South has over Gotham is the fact that southern rappers generally seem to get along, and they clump together impressively to help each other out. An incomplete list of MCs who helped nudge Bun B’s album Trill up the charts includes Ludacris, Scarface, Young Jeezy, T.I., Ying Yang Twins and Mike Jones. When New York tussled with Death Row in the 90s, the city was similarly united. Biggie helped feed dozens of rappers and earned plenty while he was at it. 50 Cent doesn’t get along with anyone outside of G-Unit, so when he does well New York isn’t any better off for it. Jay Z’s recent “I Declare War” concert, where Hova publicly made peace with longtime rival Nas and put just about every New York rapper on stage to perform, was read as an attempt to unite the city, but his increasingly ugly spat with Dipset is beginning to make the effort look pointless.

Another factor in this city’s fall out of style may be straight tedium. MCs around here have been selling the same “I sold crack” story for more than ten years now. It actually makes Crime Mob’s ‘Knuck If You Buck’ gibberish sound refreshing. Gangster street-cred’s getting tougher to come by these days, too. In a city thoroughly pimpled with Starbucks, crack dealers aren’t “rebels of the street corner” anymore, they’re chumps about to get gentrified out to Jersey.

You can read the whole article here: http://www.thelmagazine.com/4/3/critique/critique.cfm

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I generally agree with you Steven, but I also think this article brings up valid points: that infighting and tedium has taken a toll on East Coast hip-hop as a whole. The South has offered something new, though not necessarily overflowing in substance. It's only a matter of time until the hottness torch gets passed on to the Bay area or one of those mixtape cats gets his chance. I'm so hoping it'll be Papoose. That boy is...he's something else.

[*nightmare4taki*]

Are you kidding me, the south has
Young Jeezy , and TI is killing it with that song What you know about that. On top of that Young Joc got a club banger called its going down.

Seriously though, I don't know if its the South is killing Hip Hop or what, but I have definitely lost my passion for rap nowadays. It just seems like no one is talking about anything new. Have you heard that Lil Romeo - U can't shine like me, reminds me of Lil Bow Wow - U ain't fresh azimiz, he says everything that all rappers talk about, "I gotta a bently I haven't drove yet." Now where have I heard that before, Um P diddy in "Can't Nobody Hold me Down",

basically what I'm trying to say is its like everyone is using recycled material and beats.

[*Statistik*]

I totally agree with you. I just recently heard Field Mob dissed New York and its movement...I mean please, I do not wanna see a East vs South war. East will eat em anyday. I mean if there has to be a leader for the south who is a big contender, I would have to say T.I. I'm not really a big fan of T.I., but he has proved himself for being the "King of the South". Second, I'll say Lil Wayne or Chamillionaire. Why? Chamillionaire has been one of the most suprising "south artists" I've heard since 2005...I'm not talking about Jeezy. But props to Jeezy for going gold. But this is real talk, the south don't want it with the East. Most east coast rappers got the hottest punchlines, they got every recipe ready to serve. Who wants it with Cass? Who wants it with Hov or Killa Cam? Who in the South can terminate d-block? I'm talking, NO ONE. NO ONE. East all day. I see Bow Wow doing his thing but...it's just not gonna work. Know what I mean?

[Hiphop d[-_-]b]

T.I is hella fine. Sweet Lord Jesus blessed him with beauty.

[*Statistik*]

^lmao...

[Jorge]

I like lean wit it rock wit it though steven. :(

[*Statistik*]

^Good club banger to get the people movin

[Jorge]

Yep. That's one of the songs I actually do like. And "Sittin' Sidewayz".

[hi-C]

b' date='Apr 20 2006, 9:29 PM' post='2005079']
T.I is hella fine. Sweet Lord Jesus blessed him with beauty.

Ain't it the truth, though? I'm in love with his lips

[*nightmare4taki*]

Ain't it the truth, though? I'm in love with his lips

On that video What you Know if you look closely it looks like he has been smoking too much weed, cuz his lips look burned in some areas, when they showed a close up.