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Eyes open or closed when kissing? |
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![]() You know what that is? It's called love. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 150 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 255,095 ![]() |
I like keeping my eyes closed when I kiss, but my boyfriend thinks it's weird and he actually physically tries to hold my eyes open. I can't keep them open or I go cross-eyed, but he won't close his eyes. Is it just a guy thing? Or is he just weird? lol.
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![]() dakishimetainoni... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,322 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 75,318 ![]() |
Eyes closed when kissing. But, when we slightly pull away, I open my eyes then close them when we lean in again.
I guess some people like it when their eyes are open...I think it's kind of weird too... |
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![]() You know what that is? It's called love. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 150 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 255,095 ![]() |
yeah, I do the same thing. And I get really mad when he pulls my eyelids open...
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![]() cool by default. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 147 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 392,925 ![]() |
i like keeping my eyes closed. it seems sorta weird to me to have them open.
it's rude to stare! |
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*SuzieRawkSoxx* |
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Closed most def.
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![]() You know what that is? It's called love. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 150 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 255,095 ![]() |
well, I guess my boyfriend's just weird then lol.
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*jooleeah* |
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i think it'd be weird to keep them open.
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,614 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,903 ![]() |
i like think its better to have your eyes closed but it really doent matter to me if im getting a kiss then .. yeah :-)
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![]() Bay Area YadadaDiiiig. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 4,249 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 103,202 ![]() |
I find it weird open. Imagine opening your eyes for a little glimpse at him while your making out and seeing his eyes just boring into yours. A lil' creepy.
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![]() They call me... St.Jimmy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 184 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 393,546 ![]() |
i close my eyes it helps the moment
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![]() roosternamedingo. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,211 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,926 ![]() |
the thing is..I try to close my eyes but they automatically stay open. Not all the way open though..just slightly..and afterwards, I realize that my eyes were open the whole time.
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I always close my eyes when I kiss. I find it odd to just kiss while staring. They say that if you open your eyes when you kiss, you're thinking about someone else.
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![]() 101708 <3 (: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 253 Joined: Feb 2006 Member No: 382,431 ![]() |
closed. haha like most of the people said, i think it's awkward to keep my eyes open. lol probably cuhz i don't know what to look at
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![]() Being happy...is all that matters ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 765 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 102,284 ![]() |
Closed. Staring is rude =P
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![]() hi. call me linda. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 8,187 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,475 ![]() |
I usually keep my eyes closed when we're kissing.
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![]() The Russian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 212 Joined: May 2005 Member No: 136,554 ![]() |
Closed: More romantic (to me)
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I like keeping my eyes closed when I kiss, but my boyfriend thinks it's weird and he actually physically tries to hold my eyes open. I can't keep them open or I go cross-eyed, but he won't close his eyes. Is it just a guy thing? Or is he just weird? lol. what do you think? uhh he's definitely just weird. i don't know anybody that keeps their eyes open when they kiss. me and my boyfriend always close our eyes. it's more comfortable that way and i consider keeping your eyes open rude. |
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![]() × Dead as Dillinger. ♥ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,527 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,615 ![]() |
I like having them closed. It just somehow makes it seem more romantic, like in the movies.
Plus it's just awkward when both of you open your eyes at the same time and stare at each other that close together. =P And yeah, shadowchild, I've never heard of a guy who tries to keep your eyes open..that's definitely odd.. |
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*disco infiltrator* |
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Closed.
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![]() You know what that is? It's called love. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 150 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 255,095 ![]() |
wow... I'm gonna have to tell him that lol. I mean, it doesn't bother me, but it is a bit awkward.
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![]() daughter of sin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 ![]() |
Closed.. it's like an instinct :P Besides, it's more romantic..
Taylor`` |
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![]() You know what that is? It's called love. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 150 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 255,095 ![]() |
sooo true. It is more romantic.
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![]() durian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 ![]() |
I usually keep my eyes closed. That way you can only focus on the physical aspect of the kiss.
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![]() You know what that is? It's called love. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 150 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 255,095 ![]() |
so so so true.
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,476 Joined: May 2005 Member No: 135,305 ![]() |
close eyes,relax and enjoy the kiss XD staring is weird....
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![]() Hello There. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,572 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 88,673 ![]() |
closed. its more romantic.
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![]() You know what that is? It's called love. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 150 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 255,095 ![]() |
okay, I guess everyone agrees with me lol.
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closed. i find it weird to kiss with my eyes open
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![]() maybe it's just a dream ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 117 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 394,421 ![]() |
it's freaky to me they have their eyes open while we're kissing
it's like "HELLO HONEY
AREN'T YOU A BEAUT! Wait
OMG, WE'RE KISSING!?!!? *o*"
scary. o_o |
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#30
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 162 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 224,447 ![]() |
closed. It seems like it would be weird if they were open.
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![]() You know what that is? It's called love. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 150 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 255,095 ![]() |
yeah, he closed them today... so it's all good. I guess he just had to get used to it.
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s w e e t e s t ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 808 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 46,149 ![]() |
We both close our eyes when we kiss. But he love staring at my " perfect chinky eyes " .. &. often tries to open my eyes because he loves staring into them. But rather than that , we would close our eyes .. if we're closing the kiss .. I would open them & then .. lean forward for another kiss ? (:
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 950 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 30,808 ![]() |
Wow you see that [1] next to "open"? Yep, me. I have this weird habit of keeping my eyes open, but now I'm starting to close them more. =)
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#34
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Closed... it's rude to stare..
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![]() banangst ♥ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 237,399 ![]() |
Closed fo sho. well, occasionally i would peek and see where it's going, but never wide open.
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![]() CertifiedMusic ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 58 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 395,636 ![]() |
i kiss with my eyes closed i guess.
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![]() Yawn ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,530 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,772 ![]() |
I usually close my eyes when I kiss someone.
Even when I hug a guy that i'm interested in, I find that i close my eyes then too. |
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![]() love is on your list of things to do.... ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 22 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 388,516 ![]() |
I keep them closed, and after what happened to my friend, i'm keeping them that way. My friend once told me that she was kissing her guy and was curious about what her boyfriend looked like while they kissed. So...she opened her eyes and *SCREAMED*! She got startled because she saw his big-o, unblinking eyes starring at her, LOL!
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umm i usually keep them closed every now and then illl open them for a second... i think at least but a kiss is a kiss it shouldnt matter =]
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![]() My name's Katt. Nice to meet you! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,826 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,674 ![]() |
It's rude to stare.
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 636 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 59,646 ![]() |
I keep them closed, and after what happened to my friend, i'm keeping them that way. My friend once told me that she was kissing her guy and was curious about what her boyfriend looked like while they kissed. So...she opened her eyes and *SCREAMED*! She got startled because she saw his big-o, unblinking eyes starring at her, LOL! lol ^ |
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#42
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 699 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,274 ![]() |
what if the person just likes eyes? I like eyes... though I dont stare while kissing cause that's just weird.
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#43
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,799 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,450 ![]() |
closed.i dont really think about it. they just..close. t's creepy when they're open tho.
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![]() Amberific. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,913 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,772 ![]() |
CLOSED. Staring is impolite. As well as creepy.
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#45
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Usually closed, but I often find myself opening them up to see if his are closed or not. Then close them again... and I tend to keep checking. I guess it's just out of curiosity, I don't really know.
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![]() Amberific. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,913 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,772 ![]() |
QUOTE(shadowchild @ Apr 14 2006, 1:00 PM) [snapback]1991769[/snapback] I like keeping my eyes closed when I kiss, but my boyfriend thinks it's weird and he actually physically tries to hold my eyes open. I can't keep them open or I go cross-eyed, but he won't close his eyes. Is it just a guy thing? Or is he just weird? lol. what do you think? He forces your eyes open?! Yeah, he's insane. |
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![]() Antho a.k.a the Afrodisiac ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 640 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 396,805 ![]() |
QUOTE closed.i dont really think about it. they just..close. t's creepy when they're open tho. Yeh, dats true. ![]() |
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#48
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![]() Serious As A Heart Attack. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,292 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,344 ![]() |
i close my eyes..but there are occasions when i open them. i know my boyfriend opens his eyes more times than i do, but he closes them on occasion..so we're like..opposite haha
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#50
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 78 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 54,446 ![]() |
If you both have a really spicy, sexy look in your eyes, then it can be pretty fun to open your eyes for a little bit while you're kissing.
But most of the time, closed is best. And the pulling open your eyelids thing is REALLY weird. |
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![]() You know what that is? It's called love. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 150 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 255,095 ![]() |
awww, he doesn't pull my eyelids open anymore. He kinda hurt me last time and my contact fell out. He knows better than to do it again.
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Head Staff Posts: 18,173 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 108,478 ![]() |
Closed, please.
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#53
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![]() Lyn ![]() Group: Member Posts: 9 Joined: Jun 2006 Member No: 426,851 ![]() |
i dont really think it matters. hah.
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*Intercourse.* |
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#54
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Closed
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*Azarel* |
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It depends on the situation: who I'm kissing, where we are, how deep the kiss is, etc.
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I close my eyes.. so sexy woot
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#57
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![]() omfg, rtfql. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 649 Joined: Mar 2007 Member No: 511,564 ![]() |
My boyfriend &I actually had a conversation about this, and thought it would be weird to kiss with our eyes open.
We tried it, as a joke, and it was sort of strange. It just seems like instinct to close my eyes, I guess. |
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My boyfriend and I totally tried this. It was just random and we were under a blanket or something and it was like... "Do you think the freckles in our eyes are mirror images and when we kiss they're perfectly aligned?" So we checked... and couldn't tell.
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![]() What a sick, masochistic lion. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,853 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,535 ![]() |
My boyfriend and I totally tried this. It was just random and we were under a blanket or something and it was like... "Do you think the freckles in our eyes are mirror images and when we kiss they're perfectly aligned?" So we checked... and couldn't tell. awwww! ![]() ![]() YEAHH POSTAL SERVICE ![]() i always keep my eyes closed... it's instinctive for me. |
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![]() omfg, rtfql. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 649 Joined: Mar 2007 Member No: 511,564 ![]() |
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 3,291 Joined: Feb 2007 Member No: 503,024 ![]() |
I close my eyes.
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mmhm def. closed.
but sometimes we keep them open if were like talking and ocationally kiss..like a peck. otherwise it would just be like.. a blink. |
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![]() Nepenthe ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 47 Joined: Jan 2006 Member No: 347,414 ![]() |
Closed eyes, though I have peeked before. Sometimes I like seeing my boyfriend and the way he's reacting towards my kiss, but not if he's staring back. that's....odd.
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 35 Joined: Mar 2007 Member No: 511,873 ![]() |
Closed.
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#65
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CLOSED! you can feel the kiss more if u keep it closed :]
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![]() L!NDA :D ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 16 Joined: Mar 2007 Member No: 511,046 ![]() |
Something reli weird that I've noticed is every guy I've went out with keeps their eyes open when kissing me...
They'll like stare right above my head..I think it's really weird. LoL. Has anyone else noticed this before about guys? |
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![]() Hi, Im Brook. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,774 Joined: Mar 2007 Member No: 508,383 ![]() |
I think i open my eyes when me and my boyfriend kiss but i dont really remember
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![]() we jerkin' ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,408 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 210,730 ![]() |
closed why would u want stare into her eyes thats hella awkward. unless ur staring at something else =P
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i can hear your heart cryin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 108 Joined: Mar 2007 Member No: 510,510 ![]() |
dawg its cute when they closeddddd
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![]() CheccMate Foo! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 839 Joined: Dec 2006 Member No: 487,531 ![]() |
I do both actually. I like to see how she looks when we're kissing and when I'm into it, I close them to focus & enjoy. Thing is though, I'd probaby freak out and crack up if I opened my eyes and she was staring back at me. lol.
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![]() SCHGEB!SCHGEB! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,786 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,217 ![]() |
when we're in the moment i guess, i just open my eyes for a sec and his eyes are open. i wish he would close them straight away cause he eventually does haha...but right when we're about to kiss i close my eyes, it just happens
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I prefer closed
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![]() [BRITT;;] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 764 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 433,210 ![]() |
i think it`s a guy thing.
i close my eyes. most guys ive kissed close theirs |
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#74
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Eyes closed. I can't imagine otherwise.
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![]() </3 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,113 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 106,746 ![]() |
I kiss with my eyes closed.
But I know my ex would have his open, which was slightly creepy. |
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I cant stand for my eyes to be open when I'm kissing...its like an unwritten rule that you are supposed to close your eyes!!! Yeah, I had a boyfriend that would laugh at me for closing my eyes...but I should have been laughing at him! I mean, what are you looking at?? hmm?
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![]() The kooks ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 499 Joined: Apr 2007 Member No: 516,563 ![]() |
Definitely closed. It's just natural for me
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![]() zen-nation ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 186 Joined: Dec 2006 Member No: 488,292 ![]() |
Closed= when its really getting hawt..etc.
Open= when bored. |
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![]() Naomi loves you. Y'all may call me NaNa ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Designer Posts: 2,925 Joined: Jun 2006 Member No: 427,774 ![]() |
I keep my eyes closed.
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![]() Vae Victis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,416 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 ![]() |
I can rotate and focus each eye separately like a chameleon, so I keep one eye on my subject and another tuned to the background to watch out for predators.
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![]() tell me more. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 2,798 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 35,640 ![]() |
^mm. nice try being funny.
closed for me! MUCH more comfortable that way. |
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![]() Vae Victis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,416 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 ![]() |
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![]() <3<3<3<3 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,177 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,779 ![]() |
I've always wanted one of those lizards!!
Closed for me but I like taking a peek sometimes :] |
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![]() inestorresbloggingxoxoxo ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 27 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 650,649 ![]() |
hey, what if you've NEVER kissed before? =\
Oh well, thanks for letting me know what to expect :] |
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![]() <(^_^<) DANCE!(>^_^)> ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,304 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 586,621 ![]() |
closed because it's not only rude to stare but i'm a firm believer that the best things in life are left unseen. plus i feel weird staring or being stared at when kissing!
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Closed. But there have been times when I kept them open (mostly when I don't really want the kiss, but receive it anyways)
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I prefer closed but I always end up opening them.
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![]() James killed the radio star. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,095 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 589,855 ![]() |
See, my instant reaction was to say 'closed,' but you know how sometimes, when your try and think too hard about how you do something, you can't actually envision it properly? Yeah, flashes of that.
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![]() Kitty Go Moo? ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 12 Joined: Jun 2008 Member No: 655,588 ![]() |
I keep my eyes closed. Kissing someone with your eyes all open is weird.
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Baby - Im BAD NEWS ! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 88 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 647,669 ![]() |
Closed. Well depends, if you like the dude and it really means something - Closed. If you're kissing - just because - Then WIDE OPEN ! Lol jk
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![]() "Did I scare you?" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 179 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 468,620 ![]() |
I like keeping my eyes closed when I kiss, but my boyfriend thinks it's weird and he actually physically tries to hold my eyes open. I can't keep them open or I go cross-eyed, but he won't close his eyes. Is it just a guy thing? Or is he just weird? lol. what do you think? LMAO! He tries to hold your eyes open?! Gawd.. that made me laugh! I think its romantic when you have your eyes shut, but either way suits me! :) |
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![]() Cornflakes :D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,541 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 322,923 ![]() |
I'd say closed, but I mean I've done both.
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