Nick Berg, Fake or Real |
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 May 16 2004, 12:58 PM
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Ok...I found this site where it gave some good reasons of why it was fake. Anyway, if you haven't seen the video you should watch it and read this site (http://topplerummy.org/berg/) on why they think it's fake. It makes you think..I'm still not totally sure but I'm heading towards the whol planned out thing...in other words...fake.
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May 16 2004, 01:00 PM
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those things listed on that site about why the video might be fake... might be made up. because think about it, if all of those things that were stated were true, then how come nothing about them has shown up on the news?
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May 16 2004, 01:01 PM
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I'm not saying ALLL are true. Here I'll show you the ones that I think are right.
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May 16 2004, 01:08 PM
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3] Berg doesn't struggle or even flinch when his head is sawed off with a western style military knife.
It might have seemed like he was struggling but then again those guys kept moving him around making it seem like he was struggling. 5 ] No blood spurts from his neck as he is supposed to be dieing. The amount of blood on the floor is much smaller than it should have been. He should have died from bleeding out and this would have resulted in a couple of liters of blood spurting from his neck. If a person is alive and there's blood flow to the head then usually blood will squirt out. 6 ] No blood gets on the hand of 'Zarqawi' even though it was in front of Berg's neck when he should have been bleeding out. I never seen any blood on the guys hand. 18] Between Berg being knocked to the floor and then hacked up, the video cuts for no reason. Remember this isn't a two camera shoot, there is no reason for the video to cut. Something was cut out, or it would be continuous. There was a big cut in it. About 10 hours worth of a cut. 32 ] The speaker fumbles the transcript several times and goes back to the same page several times. It appeared he was having trouble reading his own statement. mhm 37] The time code actually jumps 11 hours during once splice in the video. Oops! True. 40] The voice reading the statement at the beginning not only does not match the lips, but when the pages are turned and obviously lost in confussion, there is no pause. If you try to resynch the audio with the video you can not. The voice is dubbed in and poorly lip-synched. When he was going through the pages he was still saying the speech. Isn't that a tad weird? 36] Berg continues to 'scream' after his windpipe has been cut through. Not sure if I heard that but you can't scream after your windpipe is cut. |
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| *AngelicEyz00* |
May 16 2004, 01:09 PM
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Hm... I dunno, i think it's fake
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May 16 2004, 01:14 PM
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I hope its fake.. so horrible
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May 16 2004, 01:16 PM
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When i first watched it I didn't pay attention to the minor details but then I read that site and my perspective on it. I believe Berg is dead but I believe he was dead way before he actually got his head chopped off.
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May 16 2004, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(silentxbreakdown @ May 16 2004, 12:16 PM) When i first watched it I didn't pay attention to the minor details but then I read that site and my perspective on it. I believe Berg is dead but I believe he was dead way before he actually got his head chopped off. really dead before it? hmm... when i watched it i thought he was moving and i think he was blinking and stuff.. hmm this is confusing 
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May 16 2004, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(liquidbluac1d @ May 16 2004, 2:14 PM) I hope its fake.. so horrible Yeah...either way I'm very frustrated and angry. 
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May 16 2004, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(liquidbluac1d @ May 16 2004, 2:18 PM) really dead before it? hmm... when i watched it i thought he was moving and i think he was blinking and stuff.. hmm this is confusing No No No...he was moving...IN THE BEGINNING...but...if you watch it again and watch when they throw him to the ground watch the time in the video...it has a 11 hour jump. The guys were shaking berg to so it made it seem like he was moving. |
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May 16 2004, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(silentxbreakdown @ May 16 2004, 10:20 AM) No No No...he was moving...IN THE BEGINNING...but...if you watch it again and watch when they throw him to the ground watch the time in the video...it has a 11 hour jump. The guys were shaking berg to so it made it seem like he was moving. Whoa I haven't noticed that yet... 
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| *CEP* |
May 16 2004, 01:49 PM
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I wanna review it.
But uhmmm I just ate. *intrigued* - Chinkieeyedpnoi |
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| *[2]Nekked* |
May 16 2004, 01:55 PM
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May 16 2004, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(silentxbreakdown @ May 16 2004, 12:20 PM) No No No...he was moving...IN THE BEGINNING...but...if you watch it again and watch when they throw him to the ground watch the time in the video...it has a 11 hour jump. The guys were shaking berg to so it made it seem like he was moving. wow thats interesting.. but i dont wanan watch the video to see... it makes me.. all weird 
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May 16 2004, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE([2) Nekked,May 16 2004, 2:55 PM] i stated this already in the debate forum. u can read it in my blog: http://xanga.com/toonekked/ Yes, I've seen that. I thought I'd see other's opinions on here to though, thanks. Yeah..it's not good to watch after eating lol but yeah it's interesting how one minute you are totally believeing it but then you read this stuff and it's totally a different perspective. |
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May 18 2004, 04:16 PM
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Omg I feel sick now. I sure hope it's fake. But then again, you never know. After reading some of these, it really starts to feel like this video was fake, though.
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May 18 2004, 04:19 PM
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I'm too scared to look at the video...
... But I do hope its fake! How horrible! |
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| *Kathleen* |
May 18 2004, 04:23 PM
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Even if it is fake, he still was decapitated - they found his body.
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May 18 2004, 04:35 PM
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 3,565, you n00bs ain't got nothin' on me. Group: Official Member Posts: 3,761 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,565 |
I think it's real. I mean, they seem to be suggesting that American soldiers had staged it. What do they have to gain? No publicity, after all, they have masks on their head. He is making all these assumptions that the person is DEFINITELY Zarqawi, according to the media. What if it was real and it WASNT Zarqawi?
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| *Kathleen* |
May 18 2004, 04:50 PM
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I agree, Julia. Hmm...except that it might get more people to dislike this war...why would American soldiers do that, though? Wow. I wish I was as alert as you are at that age, Julia!
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May 18 2004, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(Mireh @ May 18 2004, 5:19 PM) I'm too scared to look at the video... ... But I do hope its fake! How horrible! Same here, Val! Let's just keep hoping. 
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May 18 2004, 05:56 PM
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I don't want to look. I don't.
 Look really scary. |
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May 19 2004, 08:26 PM
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3,565, you n00bs ain't got nothin' on me. Group: Official Member Posts: 3,761 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,565 |
Yea. I don't ever ever ever ever want to see that. Regardless of what they call the lack of blood. NO NO NO. *repulsive look that isnt a smiley on createBlog*
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May 19 2004, 08:34 PM
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i voted that it was real, because i dont see why they'd fake it. however, something about it is kind of not right...
that whole thing was terrible. i did a memorial for him in my xanga. real or fake, it doesn't matter, he's dead either way. |
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May 19 2004, 08:46 PM
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i dunno if it was real or not... but its disgusting..
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May 19 2004, 08:51 PM
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i just seen the video, its gross! but wether its fake or real, makes me sick of why people would do this.
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May 31 2005, 05:32 PM
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Oh wow. That was so terrible to watch. I can't believe it. I agree with some others that there was something off about it, but I voted that it was true.
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May 31 2005, 05:46 PM
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 none of it seems real Group: Member Posts: 2,469 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 73,889 |
Oh my..
 I can't believe I watched it. I think it's real. |
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