Are blk parents more strict, than white parents or any other race? Options

[jEllyBeaNs]

well lets see, when i do bad things, i get in BIG trouble! i mean big trouble! even if the things i do, aren't that bad. but for my punishment, when i was younger, i wouldn't get grounded. i would get spanked with a belt. i dont kno why, but it seems like blk parents are more strict than white parents. like my friend erin, who's white, tells her mom to 'shutup' and cusses at her. Man, if that was me who knows wut would happen to me like with me and my friends all are moms are the same. they punish us the hard way. but it just seems that when a white kid gets into trouble they get grounded, and thats it. then they get all upset. like "ahh man i cant hang wit my friends". but when a blk kid gets in trouble, like myself, are parents make sure we dont do whatever we did, again! but since im older now, i dont get spanked with a belt, i usually end up gettin hit really hard then grounded. i just think that some white kids get away with a lot of things, that a blk kid would never get away with.

[*disco infiltrator*]

No.
Holy crap.
How strict you are does not have any connection whatsoever to your race.
White, asian, black, hispanic, middle eastern etc. parents are all parents and people and they will be as strict as they are as people, no matter what race they are.

Why is everyone on here soooo concerned with race?! Come on now, I'm the white person, I thought I was supposed to be the big racist bitch.

[PiGo]

Well, my Mom is Italian, and my Dad is Black, and I find my mom to be stricter. Actually, my Dad gets me for a LOT more stuff than my mom does, like if a sock is hanging just out of the dirty clothes basket or if the books in my bookshelf aren't all put away in the right order, he'll make me immediately go to fix it, and if I don't he'll start hollering at me. But my Mom, when she gets mad, it's usually for "back talk" or the "looks" I give her, She'll SCREAM. and when I mean scream I don't mean yell, she'll SCREAM.
As far as punishments go, I've never really compared my punishments to my friends, so I'm not really sure. My Dad gives easier punishments than my Mom though.

[*xcaitlinx*]

i don't know...but i have a friend who's white and her parents beat her with a belt sometimes. but then again a lot of my black friends have strict parents like that. i've never been spanked in my life--only hit on the head a few times...

i don't understand why parents hit their kids...especially younger ones. they're just teaching their young kids that it's okay to hit someone. there are plenty of other ways to discipline your child besides hitting them. when you hit your kid you're intimidating them and making them scared of you...so basically they think that you're a monster and are scared out of doing whatever they did bad again. hitting your kids or even spanking them should be illegal.....

and it's not that white kids "get away with it"--it's that their parents choose to punish their kids differently. (i think it's the right way to punish a child by grounding them instead of beating the shit out of them) i don't know how a parent can sleep at night after hurting their kid. that's the last thing i would want to do to mine.

[Mulder]

No.
Holy crap.
How strict you are does not have any connection whatsoever to your race.
White, asian, black, hispanic, middle eastern etc. parents are all parents and people and they will be as strict as they are as people, no matter what race they are.

Why is everyone on here soooo concerned with race?! Come on now, I'm the white person, I thought I was supposed to be the big racist bitch.

i know!

trust me, my parents have been just as bad as any of yours. we get into fights about serious things, in which i end up hiding in my room, pushing on the door, trying to keep them out, while crying.

i win.

[*Weird addiction*]

You just have strict parents. I get grounded, not whipped or beaten. My dad hit me once and i called the cops

[jEllyBeaNs]

No.
Holy crap.
How strict you are does not have any connection whatsoever to your race.
White, asian, black, hispanic, middle eastern etc. parents are all parents and people and they will be as strict as they are as people, no matter what race they are.

Why is everyone on here soooo concerned with race?! Come on now, I'm the white person, I thought I was supposed to be the big racist bitch.

omFg, why does it matter if ppl are concerned with race? what do you mean your suppose to be the big racist b****'? omG give me a breAk!

[lovescream]

because race doesn't depend on HOW THEY ACT, unless it's religiously or something. Black parents are PARENTS, asian parents are parents, white parents are parents, and so on. Not all black parents act so strictly, I know a lot of my friends' parents, who are african-american, that allow their kids to do whatever the hell they want to do.

.. Hey, do all of your topics have to include african-americans?

[*jooleeah*]

because race doesn't depend on HOW THEY ACT, unless it's religiously or something. Black parents are PARENTS, asian parents are parents, white parents are parents, and so on. Not all black parents act so strictly, I know a lot of my friends' parents, who are african-american, that allow their kids to do whatever the hell they want to do.

.. Hey, do all of your topics have to include african-americans?

I concur. Race has nothing to do with it.

[jEllyBeaNs]

because race doesn't depend on HOW THEY ACT, unless it's religiously or something. Black parents are PARENTS, asian parents are parents, white parents are parents, and so on. Not all black parents act so strictly, I know a lot of my friends' parents, who are african-american, that allow their kids to do whatever the hell they want to do.

.. Hey, do all of your topics have to include african-americans?

No, look around in my topics, they dont all include AFRICAN AMERICANS!

[*disco infiltrator*]

omFg, why does it matter if ppl are concerned with race? what do you mean your suppose to be the big racist b****'? omG give me a breAk!

You make topics about equality and stuff all the time. How are we supposed to be equal when you're making race such a big issue? It's not. It's the color of your damn skin. It doesn't affect anything besides how tan you can get.

[jEllyBeaNs]

You make topics about equality and stuff all the time. How are we supposed to be equal when you're making race such a big issue? It's not.

It's the color of your damn skin. It doesn't affect anything besides how tan you can get.

oo wow, i make topics about equality and stuff! explain that please! u can easily be equal, nothing i am saving is seperating u from anyone or any race! and Omg u gotta help me out with this one, u say u cant be equal becuz im making race a big issue. RACE IS A BIG ISSUE! i didn't make it that way. and the rest of your quote makes no since what so ever, u say race is not a big issue, then u say its the color of your skin and that it doesn't effect anything besides how tan u get. wut is that suppose to mean?

[*disco infiltrator*]

Um........


I'm trying to say race isn't a big issue. Because if you think about it, it isn't. You want people to refer to you as a person, not as your race, right? You want people to not make stereotypes about you based on your race, right? Because it's not an issue. Who cares what color your skin is? That doesn't dictate anything.

And my example of how tan you can get was just an example. Because of my skin pigmentation, I don't get very tan easily. That's the only thing it dictates.

[Spirited Away]

Um, this has more to do with stereotype than race. Every parent has a different way of disciplining his/her children and I doubt race has anything to do with it. Culture, I think, is the more prominent factor.

[sadolakced acid]

i don't think this qualifies as a debate.

and personally, if i see one more topic in debate that's just someone whining about race or perceived racism. i'm going to lose it.

screw it. i'm not waiting till the next topic.

do you know why black parents are more strict?

because they're trying to be like white parents.

and you're f**king stupid if you think they're strict because they're black.

oh right you get diciplined and all with a belt. wonderful. did you get hit in the head too? because if you didn't notice white people get hit too.

you know, it's not really a race thing. it's more of an intellegence/class thing.

generally more educated people are more inclined to not resort to force. ergo, less intellegent people are more of the physical punishment kind of people.

and then, less intellegent people tend to be poorer, and so i guess it's not really a class thing.

oh well.

that's right, i just called black parents stupid poor people.

go get me warned. flame me. whatever. i don't care.

because white trash, black trash, it's all trash.

[Ington]

I think I love Justin.

[Ington]

Suzzette, I don't think he did it to bash black people, I think he did it to throw everything into Jellybean's face.

[*disco infiltrator*]

He's making the same point I am, just more angrily.

[sadolakced acid]

well, i did it cus i'm really angry right now and it kinda helped to releive the anger.

i figure i do deserve a verbal warning, that was a blantant attack.

[*disco infiltrator*]

The repetitiveness about people telling me each race is different and acts different etc. etc. but then telling me I'm racist and I should be equal gets to me to.

I just don't put it on here. :P

[BrokenDream]

Like with grades...If a grade on my report card is lower than a 95...........Well then. I'm basically as dead as a living person can be.

If I don't say goodmorning to them? I'm not going on the computer/using the phone that day.

oh man. that's just not fair.

lower than a 95? at least it's not like your failing. and don't say good-morning? you don't have to. no offense but it does seem your parents are kind of wacko.

...well, i don't think so anyway. not everyone's parents are the same. some will be very strict. so no.

[*mzkandi*]

Well Justin, I am going to verbaly warn you, as a black person I took offense to that. Debate your views in a more civil way.

[AngryBaby]

i don't think this qualifies as a debate.

and personally, if i see one more topic in debate that's just someone whining about race or perceived racism. i'm going to lose it. 

screw it.  i'm not waiting till the next topic. 

do you know why black parents are more strict?

because they're trying to be like white parents.

and you're f**king stupid if you think they're strict because they're black.

oh right you get diciplined and all with a belt.  wonderful.   did you get hit in the head too? because if you didn't notice white people get hit too.

you know, it's not really a race thing.  it's more of an intellegence/class thing. 

generally more educated people are more inclined to not resort to force.  ergo,  less intellegent people are more of the physical punishment kind of people.

and then, less intellegent people tend to be poorer,  and so i guess it's not really a class thing.

oh well.

that's right, i just called black parents stupid poor people. 

go get me warned.  flame me.  whatever.  i don't care.

because white trash, black trash, it's all trash.

little close to the line there justin be sure that if your gonna insult someone, be sure to insult the one person and not a race. that was unfair
but i can see what your trying to say, but there was a better way of saying it.

[Rachel]

^x2Well this topic is pretty ridiculus.

Why is everything in debate suddenly turning towards racial issues?

Black parents and white parents are still all PARENTS. Their race does not determine how strict they are going to be. My parents aren't very strict and my friend Shanes' parents aren't strict either. Yes, Shane is black. He is out every night until 12 dealin drugs. I am guesing his parents are a lot LESS strick than mine don't you think? [I am not, by the way, saying that all black people are f**ked up drug dealers]

You see, my mexican, asian, white, black, puerto rican friends, we all have DIFFERENT parents who have DIFFERENT ways of treating us. Does our race influence it? NO. My boyfriend is white, his parents are a fuckload stricter than mine, but wait, we are both white?! Doesn't that mean, according to the debate topic starter, that our parents should be less strict than Shanes? Hmmm.


Ps, I confused myself there with my crazzzy example.
Summary: Youre skin color does not god damn determine how strict you are going to be.

[sadolakced acid]

yea that was pretty much over the line.

i'll apologize later when i'm not so angry and it won't come out all sarcastic.

[sprezzatura]

I am Asian. And I was grounded for infinitely many times already for the littlest mistake ever.

[Rachel]

^Wow, I'm white and I have been grounded too.

Race doesn't factor in now does it.

Cool, I'd like to hear it.

No need to bitch back at him. It won't help. He already said he knew he crossed the line.

[AngryBaby]

yea that was pretty much over the line.

i'll apologize later when i'm not so angry and it won't come out all sarcastic.

its all good^


angelica, you know there are white parents (as well as every other race) out there that would practically disown their daughter's for evn getting pregnate at a young age. you know that there are white,asian,hispanic,middle eastern parents that dont even want their kid thinking of having a boyfriend or girlfriend, or even go out with there friends. i can give you tons of examples of middle eastern cultures that prove WAY more strict than your mom. for example i know a girl (that is white) that got kicked out of her house for getting pregnate at 15. she's living with her aunt now. race has nothing to do with strict parents. although i read before it is a statistic that african american parents give more spankings than caucasion parents =/. but that doesnt really mean much, i rather be spanked than get what some other kids of different races get from there parents. but all in all all parents are different. for example, suzzette's parents are way more extreme than yours angelica haha.

[jEllyBeaNs]

to all you ppl that are freakin out, i never said all blk parents are more stricted on their kids than white parents or any other race. i just said it seemed that way! i kno that all blk parents aren't strict, and i kno that some white parents are strict. you guys are makin it seem like, i said all white parents dont disiplin there kids. trust me i kno, some white kids that get punished pretty badly. to me it just seemed like blk parents are more stricted.

angelica, you know there are white parents (as well as every other race) out there that would practically disown their daughter's for evn getting pregnate at a young age. you know that there are white,asian,hispanic,middle eastern parents that dont even want their kid thinking of having a boyfriend or girlfriend, or even go out with there friends.

evan, you know i know all of this already! come on, i said it seems that way. omg everybodys' trippin out!

[Spirited Away]

to all you ppl that are freakin out, i never said all blk parents are more stricted on their kids than white parents or any other race. i just said it seemed that way! i kno that all blk parents aren't strict, and i kno that some white parents are strict. you guys are makin it seem like, i said all white parents dont disiplin there kids.  trust me i kno, some white kids that get punished pretty badly. to me it just seemed like blk parents are more stricted.

um, when you say that an action "seems" like so-and-so, you generally believe that there is significant evidence for the action to be seen like so-and-so. In other words, it's apparent to you that black parents are strict. That's why people are "freakin out" at you. It's not as apparent to them as it is to you.

[jEllyBeaNs]

um, when you say that an action "seems" like so-and-so, you generally believe that there is significant evidence for the action to be seen like so-and-so. In other words, it's apparent to you that black parents are strict. That's why people are "freakin out" at you. It's not as apparent to them as it is to you.

ok i get it!

[Rachel]

ok i get it! 

[*Weird addiction*]

i don't think this qualifies as a debate.

and personally, if i see one more topic in debate that's just someone whining about race or perceived racism. i'm going to lose it. 

screw it.  i'm not waiting till the next topic. 

do you know why black parents are more strict?

because they're trying to be like white parents.

and you're f**king stupid if you think they're strict because they're black.

oh right you get diciplined and all with a belt.  wonderful.  did you get hit in the head too? because if you didn't notice white people get hit too.

you know, it's not really a race thing.  it's more of an intellegence/class thing. 

generally more educated people are more inclined to not resort to force.  ergo,  less intellegent people are more of the physical punishment kind of people.

and then, less intellegent people tend to be poorer,  and so i guess it's not really a class thing.

oh well.

that's right, i just called black parents stupid poor people. 

go get me warned.  flame me.  whatever.  i don't care.

because white trash, black trash, it's all trash.

WTF? Thank god i'm eating cookies or i would have been really angry. You better apologise fast. I'm not joking.

[*disco infiltrator*]

If you would actually read the thread, you would realize he already has apologized AND has been verbally warned.

Stop giving him shit for something he already apologized for.

[*Weird addiction*]

^ he didn't. He said he'll apologise later...

[*disco infiltrator*]

Ok well, he more or less apologized, and said he went over the line, didn't he?

[*mzkandi*]

Ok gals cut out the bickering. I'm thinking that is the best apology we going to get from him so lets just drop it.

[sadolakced acid]

well, actually no.

i said i'd apologize later, and so i am.

look, i'm sorry i decided to take out my anger here. althought i did not mean the things i said, i did intend them to sound that way. i was angry.

which is of course no excuse.

but really, that sort of crap is the same crap that everyone gets.

oh, what, you've never seen a kid made fun of in school?

so why is it not good to make fun of a person's race while it's perfectly fine to say degrading comments about them?

this is an interesting value system our society has.

yea, anyways, not trying to justify my blatant attack, that was just something i wanted to say.

as for the apology. hmm... one thing i do enjoy doing in debate is a point by point breakdown of a post. it's a rather harsh assault, which i will try to do here. maybe it will make you feel better, alright? (i will, of course, be refering to myself in second person.)

i don't think this qualifies as a debate. 

well it doesn't much seem like a debate. that's because it's not. but you decide to go ahead and debate it? quite very intelligent, debating when you say there is no debate. prime example of intelect.

and personally, if i see one more topic in debate that's just someone whining about race or perceived racism. i'm going to lose it.

screw it.  i'm not waiting till the next topic.

well you sure did lose it alright. but isn't your post just another post about that's someone whining? So do you have to go postal on your on post? hm? hm?

do you know why black parents are more strict?

because they're trying to be like white parents.

blantant lie, and you know it. Also, sucumbing to two stereotypes at once?
lovely opinion, where's your support? facts? you are trying to debate here, right? show some signs of intelligent life?

and you're f**king stupid if you think they're strict because they're black.

well, at last! some sign of reason, although the delivery was quite coarse. goodie for you, you've managed to reason something.

oh right you get diciplined and all with a belt.  wonderful.  did you get hit in the head too? because if you didn't notice white people get hit too.

well that's an ad hominen attack that's really unjustified. (yea, i'm sorry about that. that one was extremely out of line. nothing much else i can say...)

you know, it's not really a race thing.  it's more of an intellegence/class thing.

generally more educated people are more inclined to not resort to force.  ergo,  less intellegent people are more of the physical punishment kind of people.

and then, less intellegent people tend to be poorer,  and so i guess it's not really a class thing.

use of false reasoning and oversimplifying the facts. It is that stupid people are stupid because they're poor or poor people are poor because they're stupid? or are they even related at all?

oh well.

that's right, i just called black parents stupid poor people.

idiot doesn't even know what he said. this isn't math. a=b and b=c doesn't mean a=c.

go get me warned.  flame me.  whatever.  i don't care.

because white trash, black trash, it's all trash.

you don't care, hm? well, that's nice, seeing as how you are going to get warned.

and as far as trash goes- you are right. but that's not really relavent to the topic right now right? unless you're implying that black people are all black trash- in which case your delivery was quite off. with no facts to back it up either. it's sad.

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alright well i hope you've enjoyed that. and yet again, sorry for that. it was over the line, it was uncalled for, it was a blatant attack and it was misdirected anger. and for that, i apologize.

[AngryBaby]

well i know you apologized before because i accepted it that kinda seemed like self abuse abit though lol.

so why is it not good to make fun of a person's race while it's perfectly fine to say degrading comments about them?

simple, because when you make fun of the person, your just making fun of that individual , but when your talking about a race your insulting a whole race of people.
for if i was to say about an asian kid "he's stupid" it means much less than to say "asians are stupid" you see?

[pandamonium]

yea the title caught my eye.
i dont think you can find out who is strict or not. i mean there are alot of strict parents out there.

[*Weird addiction*]

and yet again, sorry for that.  it was over the line, it was uncalled for, it was a blatant attack and it was misdirected anger.  and for that, i apologize.

That's all i care about. Apology accepted.

[eccentricity__]

I'm Asian, and my parents do that too. However, they've adjusted slightly to how rebellious I am, so sometimes I tell them to shut up and they, well, don't punish me as bad anymore. And my mom stopped hitting me, because whenever she tries to, I grab her hands and restrain her. I'm stronger than her now.

But my dad still spanks me/hits me with yardsticks. And my mom sometimes slaps me across the face when I'm too tired to restrain her.

[eccentricity__]

i don't think this qualifies as a debate.

and personally, if i see one more topic in debate that's just someone whining about race or perceived racism. i'm going to lose it. 

screw it.  i'm not waiting till the next topic. 

do you know why black parents are more strict?

because they're trying to be like white parents.

and you're f**king stupid if you think they're strict because they're black.

oh right you get diciplined and all with a belt.  wonderful.  did you get hit in the head too? because if you didn't notice white people get hit too.

you know, it's not really a race thing.  it's more of an intellegence/class thing. 

generally more educated people are more inclined to not resort to force.  ergo,  less intellegent people are more of the physical punishment kind of people.

and then, less intellegent people tend to be poorer,  and so i guess it's not really a class thing.

oh well.

that's right, i just called black parents stupid poor people. 

go get me warned.  flame me.  whatever.  i don't care.

because white trash, black trash, it's all trash.

Sorry, I know this argument is over and you've apologized, but I just wanna make a note--my parents were definitely both well-educated; they started out really poor but now they've become really successful. They both went to really good colleges in China and my dad went to Stanford university for graduate school, which is why they moved to the US.

And they resort to more physical punishment than any other parents I know. So I think that was an unfair assumption up there.

Just thought I'd say that.

[AngryBaby]

i know, same with my parents, they both went to college. yet they still hit

[Genuine_Essence]

it seems as though black parents are more strict but i kno other parents that are of a different race that are even worse. it jus depends on the family i guess

[*reflection*]

personally i think the topic starter is saying black parents are strict because her parents are black. i think people think that their own race is strict because they grew up with people of that race.

[Mulder]

o honestly!

its just the color of your skin! it doesnt effect anything! all it means is that your ancestors were from a place where the sun shined a bit brighter.

all these race related topics make no sense to me.

[AngryBaby]

thats how the world should be, but its not.^

[o0olaalaa]

eh. doesnt it just depend on the person (parent) not their race?